₦airaland Forum

vankelvin:
I am never new on this topic,
The fact that I wasn't commenting doesn't mean I am new.

I started seeing your handle only this year.

I also used to think Kenya was better than Nigeria until I delved deep.

jln115:
it only warrants your input when it's a none Nigerian!

Every time a Kenyan, SAn, TZn ect ect talks sh1t about Ghana you have something to say.... However when Nigerians talk sh1t about Ghana and your bro Vankelvin just defends his country you call him out for it

Fvcking pathetic of you, if you ask me basically the Ghanaian sufferinsmile

i just learnt the discussion is about Mombasa and not Ghana.

I usually dont respond to egotistic comments for a reason.
Sometimes it is just an ego busting comment that cannot be proven so it slides as one.

I've not called VanKelvin out
I just said he is new to the Kenyan conversation.
Im sure his position will change when he understudy kenya

have you seen Mombasa ?

dont let the posting of resorts by Kenyans deceive you oo.

It is a fact that Uyo is more developed than Mombasa.

as for beauty it is subjective so i dont know why anyone will argue on beauty

vankelvin:
I said MOMBASA is Beautiful than UYO city and these foolish nigerian's are crying since
Perhaps they want breast milk

oh okay

jln115:
bro it wasn't him that started this sh1t

naa

i dont just roast none Nigerians.

I just realised the current chatter is about nothing to warrant my impute

jln115:
Ok and? or do you only roast non Nigerians on this thread?

why are you hot this evening ?

vankelvin:
Really? You have ''education'' in you, and your country still leads in the ''illiteracy rate'' in Africa? waaw
Bro, educate your fellow nigerian's okay, they need than their lifes

because Nigeria did not go to do a title document for the land.
Nigeria couldn't because the they didn't have a contract (sales document showing they bought the land from it owner and having the owner signature)

Litmus:
At best, Nigeria’s only fault is in relying on National Government to National government diplomacy since Ghana’s land laws seem to be a confidence trick since the buck can be passed between Government land agency and villagers without either taking responsibly or being legally culpable. Why didn’t Ghana Land Commission issue the relevant Nigerian parties with Land Title after Nigeria had complied with the necessary procedures?

https://scholarship.law.tamu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1165&context=lawreview

For me though, this is no surprise for the people are a slippery lot by nature and culture.

i dont know if it is the English that you are having problems with.

1. Lands commission does not sell land it only registers them after the buyer of the land goes to them with a valid contract between him and the landowner and pay for a title document, The process is not automatic.

2. The owner of the land(which is OSU) sold their land to a company in 2019 and the company after buying it went to lands commission and register the land. The land owner went to clear the land to for construction and the High Commission claim they own the land.

They stop and went to lands commission and the lands commission request for the land title of the High Commission but they didnt respond.
Since the private company had their land title, they moved to clearing the land.

Litmus:
In short:



So, Ghana's Lands Commission, responsible for land registry, admitted that it sold land to Nigeria ,essentially, (forget the obfuscating jargon).



Nigeria also sent the required documents and slips but Ghana's Land Commission incompetently and corruptibly did not issue Nigeria with deeds to the land, as it should.



After nearly 20 years of Nigeria keeping quiet because Nigeria knows that she bought the land in good fate and has all the receipts to prove it. In addition, believing all the hype about Ghana being a responsible country, that the purchase would be honoured. In the end, Nigeria’s trust was betrayed for Ghana proceeded to sell the land to someone else. Ghana’s Land commission leased to Nigeria without giving Nigeria Deeds. One wonders if the new people to whom Ghana Land Commission leased the land were given Deeds ?



Ghana’s Land Commission then had the effrontery to tell Nigeria that the land will be sold to someone else if Nigeria did not produce the Land Title that Ghana incompetently and corruptibly did not issue Nigeria in the first place.



Ignoring the fact that Nigeria was correctly seething and thinking, ‘what the Bleep are these people doing? ‘ this is supposedly graft free Ghana they wouldn’t dare sell the land that we bought from them and for wich we have evidence, and for which they, Ghana, wrongly did not issue Deeds. But Ghana did do the corrupt thing and double sold the land.

Shma:
justo 30 is one desperate guy. back then he used to roast nigerians until the day Kenyans started with him.
The guy has never healed up to date.
So his desperation is what makes some igbos here not to defend themselves from him because they knows what that hobit is capable of doing.

You can ask popazino.

ignoramus

after being roasted by everyone here

I'm even surprised you still comment despite the glaring facts.

let say
valkelvin is new to this topic

samorobo:
You are lucky you were a ghanian ekseni would have long dealt with you..like I said whenever I look at your post just30 always resurfaces on my mind else why I let most of your nonsense past..you are very,very lucky you idiot..

jln115:
just wondering if he is still going to lick your asses or if he has some balls to reply

seen

where is the source of the discussion?

jln115:
Just30 some more mate

what is happening ?

i haven't been here all of today
there are bigger issues concerning health delivery that I've been contributing to.

Danielnino00:
Be careful there.. .

Just30 is my pal..

I'm just trying to educate a countryman of his..

Ghana and Nigeria go at each others throat all the time for mostly mundane stuffs cause we share a lot

jln115:
Just30...... Just wondering if you are gonna continue liking Nigerian asses after these posts

what is up

why im i being called

jln115:
Just30

what's up?

vankelvin:
you are overwhelmed and there is nothing you can say or do
Just30 is not your father so say anything you've not said already I'm all ears.
and i will reply fairly

sup

what is going on that everyone is quoting me?

samorobo:
Nigga don't force me to talk cos this is funny coming from a ghanian...
I am only keep quiet becos of the likes of just30

POKUASI2:
payment don't mean, right?
So NIGERIA should have put a gun on those corrupt, incompetent Ghanaians at the lands commission huh

Payment only mean something when it is made to the rightful owner of whatever you want to buy.

Hope you know that you cant go and make payment to my friend for something you seek to buy from me.

hope you understand

without a building permit, the building was illegally put up.
I know you know this because building permit rules are the same in Nigeria.

POKUASI2:
illegally put up? Is that the best you understand among everything said

Sometimes they just feel like arguing the facts steering in their face and that is all.

Noisyrians:
don't mind the ediots. In Nigeria, there is what is called Certificate of Occupancy. That is a legitimate tile of land ownership in nigeria.

to build a house legitimately in Nigeria, you need a valid certificate of occupancy and then permission to build. you call it a building permit. if you don't have these two documents, the authorities can demolish your property and take over your land. It happened in Abuja when one el Rufai demolished hundreds of buildings without valid certificate of occupancy and building certificates.

these nigerians know these things very well. But because they are stvpid they don't want to accept the facts

Because the property was illegally put up, the government will be blocked by a lot of court cases from spending tax payers money on a foreign mission property. The government will not be able to legally use Ghanaian money to build that building as promised.

And it won't happen in an election year or after.

mmars:
Your president is increasing your tax right now to meet our demands

If you read the first post, you would know that destroying the building on the land was not illegal.

If you buy a land and secure the ownership right to the land, anything you find on it, you can demolish to make way for your project.

Multiplier7:
Ghana is really backward this days and I have my reasons for it.

1. Destroying someone's property without proper legal means is very illegal and uncivilized. There should be due processes but they failed to follow them because it is Nigeria. Of course, they hate that word Nigeria with passion.

2. In Ghana, there police station was attacked by robbers and a lot of things stolen (can you imagine). This thing happened in Nima. A whole police station my people robbed. That's really pathetic. What does police station stand for again? But in Ghana ,reverse is the case.

3. Now fast ward to what happened in a whole Accra o their capital city. Investigation revealed that police station was close by that Nigeria high commission house. Calls where made and no police officer showed up. This can never ever happen in Abuja. But an average Ghanaian believes Nigeria is this and that. What happened in Ghana was a total disgrace to them, a disgrace to Africa and disgrace to civilization.

They should should grow up to their responsibilities.

The payment means nothing if you dont have a Title Certificate

Secondly, the payment was not a legal contract because it wasn't made to the owners of the property.

Hope you now see how the High Commission Fuvked up

ddeola:
With all these payments and receipts, Ghana don f*ck-up. But diplomacy has to be brought into the matter, no b say Naija just dey encroach anyhow.

The property is not a diplomatic property as defined by the Vienna Convention

idtwo:
Mr Mallam, it is clear you do not understand that Nigeria's sovereign space & so Nigeria's sovereignty was violated. This is more than just demoliof a certain building as you wrote. Your reasoning on this issue is quite wrong or at best ignorant. There are codes that govern relations between countries and Ghanian authorities ought to know that.
I wonder why the demolishers were not challenged by the military/security. There ought to be a detachment of military in all our embassies.

Since you need education, let me help you here.

The land commission of Ghana does not sell Stool lands.

-Because Nigeria did not buy the land from the legal owners, There was no valid contract.

- Because there was no valid contract between the owners and Nigeria, Nigeria could not get a land Title Certificate (meaning it was a back channel deal to take the land by force).

- in 2019, the owners of the land (Osu stool) sold the land to an insurance company (GLICO) and the insurance company went to do a Title Certificate of the land because they had a valid contract to do it. Now GLICO has both a valid contract certificate and a LAnds Title Certificate (meaning the own the land) for that reason, they can demolish anything the find on it.

The rest of your argument are emotional rants since the land and property in question
1. Is not the Nigerian Embassy and neither is it the Nigerian High Commission residence (So vienna convention does not cover it as a diplomatic property)
2. It was fraudulently acquired

smallsmall:
So, the Lands Commission in Ghana
- Collected close to ONE MILLION Cedis from the Nigerian High Commission for this Land - FACT
- This payment for this land was twenty years ago - FACT
- This Land Commission issued reciepts for this land payment by Nigeria and has Duplicates of such in its Drawers - FACT
- This same Ghana Lands Commission went and sold same land to another Person - FACT

What is this called if not FRAUD and 419? The Ghananian Govt is fraudulent

- But the third party came and destroyed the Fence of the Embassy first - FACT
- Then when Nigerian High Commission seems to be sleeping and not reacting/responding to this "Attack", the man got emboldened and now demolished the Embassy Building on the land - FACT

Now, does the fact that these criminals issued a sort of "first warning" by demolishing the fence of the embassy and Nigeria High Commission DID NOTHING , did not raise alarm, did not issue a warning to the Govt of Ghana and just went to sleep, I think the Minister fo Foreign Affairs and the High Commissioner of Nigeria in Ghana needs to be relieved of their Jobs IMMEDIATELY. This is sheer incompetence and dereliction of duty.

Ghana now needs to be sued at the UN and ICC, for FRAUD because once you sell something to someone (Sale Contract) and you got PAID for it (CONSIDERATION for the Sale Contract), you cannot sell the same Title to a third party without FIRST informing and getting the Consent of the owner of the Title, under any circumstance.

Ghana must be severely PUNISHED for this violation of sovereignty. They must pay Ten times what it cost to build that building and the fence, pay damages and write a letter of apology

Thats the thing

The high Commission did not buy the land from it rightful owners
The second problem was because the land wasn't bought from it rightful owners, the High Commission could not secure a Title Certificate that shows that they won't the land.
The Title Certificate requires the Signature of the Owners of the Land and the Buyer's to constitute a contract.
Without prove of a legal contract, a Land Title certificate cannot be issued.

happy200:
They asked Nigerian Embassy to provide documents but they were reluctant. (Nigerian's i don't care attitude) caused all these. But Ghana is still wrong because you can't sell the same land someone has paid for to another person, secondly what is the reason why Ghana did not issue land certificate to the Embassy since year 2000 that till now.

Do you know what a title certificate is?

without it, you don't own the land.

Secondly, the High Commission did not buy the land from the rightful owners.

joviegghead:
Hi.
Are you seriously shitting me?!
High commission paid. It's even got a letter of allocation and right of entry to the land issue by the land commission itself.
But one document - Title certificate... Just this document led to the demolition of a the building which must have cost a lot.

I don't care about any article quoted by Nigeria's minister. I not even sure it's valid but..
They must build it back

Ghanaians and their bitter rivalry with Nigeria ehn.

as expected

samorobo:
And what is that of Kenya....

And yes according to that IMF latest projection which was released some days back says that only China will experience a 1% growth the rest country all over the world is doing negative.....atleast their projections says we would return to the upward trajectory next year but Kenya will not recover until 2024...

you are still here making noise


just go and educate yourself on the laws of Ghana so you dont end up finding yourself grief

Johnsghana:
Your careless use of the word stupid mean two things. It's either you're baiting me into engaging you with insults and invectives or your vocabulary is highly limited that why you cannot express yourself without being crass.

You call me a bigot? When you are the one trying very hard to hold unto what everyone else had moved on from.

See a post I posted here on NL when I felt Nigerians were in the wrong. And how candid I was in the post.

I double dare you to show one place where on NL you even said anything critical about Ghana or Ghanaians.



I have gone through your NL profile and I see you posting only good things about Ghana and insulting people here anyhow. This had only confirmed my assumption that you are just here to troll Nigerians for whatever reason best known to you. This makes it hard to hide your hate for Nigeria or Nigerians. See a few of your previous posts here on NL










Hiding behind faceless profile on the internet to insult people says a lot about you and your way of thinking.

Still, I send light and love way! You will be alright last last!

Please stop trolling me!

as if you don't know that we play with everything

popizaino:
I saw it on various news channels this morning but to my upmost dismay I didn’t see the tension on the face of anyone when I came out to the street.

Read the Conclusion from the Supreme court judge

It is right there at the CONCLUSION PART.

all the point listed are things that you do before you purchase land from the rightful owners.

The conclusion stress that if you dont buy the land from the rightful owner, you will find yourself grief

Johnsghana:
Nothing in your plenty quote says you have to go to a Chief or any stool and verify ownership of a land.

Keep playing stupid

the article you cited was from a sub chief distancing his stool from what the Osu Mantse did.

but i dont have mush tie to draw your attention back to your blunder cus i think you already know.
Hence why you are playing stupid.

you are just a bigot running around social media spreading bigotry when you know nothing.

Next time you want to talk about any legal stuffs, make sure you know the position of the law.

Johnsghana:
My own lies? When I brought more than one receipt. I will school you anyday, anywhere.

You wrote, the "Even the Chief quoted is a Sub Chief". The text is still there for you to read.

Go and read my previous comments about Ghana and Nigeria on other posts and you will see that I don't take sides based on bigotry. When the Nigerians are in the wrong I say it and when the Ghanaians are also wrong, I say it.

Now I have to rest from your trolling since your conversation in beginning to go in the direction of insults and invectives and I will not follow you into the gutter. I am better than that.