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Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 10:06am On Oct 01, 2010

babapupa:
Abeg hush with that nonsense, you of all people dey yarn insult.

Babapupa, your own don too much sef. Lagos na your own? You want everybody to leave Lagos for you because you be Lagosian and not Nigerian abi? When we start to yarn of Civil war now, you go talk how one mechanised division take bomb Asaba, without asking why they were bombing Asaba in the first place.

You need to go and ask your father why he did not let Igbos to leave when we wanted to leave. Why he had to kill and risk dying just to Keep Igbos in Lagos state so that you will understand why you should shut your Eczema infested mouth. Crack head like you.

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 9:14am On Oct 01, 2010

babapupa:
Shouldn't you be asking yourself why your kinsmen are not trooping out of Lagos to move back to their lawless towns and villages back east?

Ode no common sense,

Because we wanted to leave, and your fathers died and killed us to make us stay slowpoke. You father knew how important my people were to your sorry a'ss. You'd probably be an agbero (If you are not one at the moment) without us. Lol! Crack head.

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 9:10am On Oct 01, 2010

sbeezy8:
people were moving Lagos before Nigeria became a country. so thats done. AND Lagos was always a hot spot. so all this Nigeria money this and that is bull.

Why was LAGOS made capital of all places in Nigeria? The west of Nigeria wasnt even english speaking at the time.

Yes, and once upon a time, my people decided to leave, and your fathers swore not to let us go. Why? Abi na confusion dey worry them?

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 9:05am On Oct 01, 2010

babapupa:
Olodo, it is because the government of Lagos state showed real leadership and didn't derelict, they provided a peaceful environment for Lagosians and your people to walk around like free men and not worried about getting slaughtered like they do their brothers, sisters and kids back home.

What is infrastructure without good leadership? Go you even think before you open mouth sef? You wont know anything about leadership anyway, you ain't got non,

Confirmed, you are a Crack head and a slowpoke. Peaceful Lagos state?!!!!!!! Since when?

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 9:00am On Oct 01, 2010

sbeezy8:
haha is there no sea port and air port in PH? lol

Read this and be educated

Justcash:

Because of important infrastructures like International airport and seaport that were built in Lagos with Nigeria's money. The resultant population boost due to the migration for these infrastructures happened to also create a good market for goods. I hope it is clear to you.

Note the population part.

Anyway, Igbos actually tried to leave Lagos for the Yorubas in the past, we saw what happened. So, we cannot be rejected and wanted at the same time. It shows clearly that Yorubas need Igbos.

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 8:58am On Oct 01, 2010

babapupa:
lol, why den con send military to your towns and villages to make sure your scary a/ss no get killed or kidnapped?

Your people wey dey Lagos no won go back east cos den no won get killed and this clown dey talk about riding okada for 3am,

Hallucination no dey taya you ni?

These words coming from a slowpoke whose ancestors fought to ensure that Igbos remain in Nigeria, your insanity is confirmed. Don't let your forefathers visit you and slap you for saying that they died for nothing. Lol!

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 8:55am On Oct 01, 2010

sbeezy8:
so why is it people move to Lagos? because its the most dangerous city abi?

Because of important infrastructures like International airport and seaport that were built in Lagos with Nigeria's money. The resultant population boost due to the migration for these infrastructures happened to also create a good market for goods. I hope it is clear to you.

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 8:46am On Oct 01, 2010

babapupa:
Stop smoking crack.

I didn't read your rubbish,

You seem to mention "Crack" easily. *Wondering* could it be that you are a crack head. It is only a crack head that thinks that everyone is under the influence of Crack. Lol!
As expected, making sense would seem like rubbish to you. No wonder you spew rubbish because you think you are making sense. Anumanu

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 8:44am On Oct 01, 2010

babapupa:
Because Lagos state is my state and I fit talk about my state till tomorrow if I want, too bad you no fit talk about yours. What a damn shame.

But why is it paining you? You still haven't offered any word of advise or solution to help prevent your people from getting killed and your school kids getting kidnapped by your own people? You're still hare worried to death about Lagos state and Yoruba land. Una no get shame I swear,

LOL! Dude, when did you start bragging about Lagos state? From 2007 right? I understand how much a miracle Fashola's development drive is to you.
Other states are developing. In the East, Enugu and Anambra are making raves. In the South, Rivers and Akwa Ibom states are on the march. In the North, Kaduna state is making raves. Mid-west, Edo is marching too. So, all these your Lagos rants are getting too loud. Abeg make we hear word jo!
The only state in the East that is in a deplorable condition is Abia state. Imo state with all the bad leadership is far more organised and better than all the western states apart from Lagos state. That is my state.

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 8:30am On Oct 01, 2010

babapupa:
You need to calm down with the ibo rage and anger while I break it down for you nice and gently,

You are basically proving me right, ibo people don't know anything about responsibility and accountability, you wont discuss or worry about the problems facing your own people, but you'll lose sleep, make dumb excuses, point fingers at Yoruba people.

You can cry and yell as much as you want, but get this through your thick and clueless skull, no Yoruba or Hausa state is under siege, Yoruba people and Hausa people are not killing their own people and kidnapping their own kids, Yoruba and Hausa people are not scared and afraid to walk freely around their towns and villages.

It's funny how you mentioned Fashola and the fact that Lagos was lawless before 2007, Fashola as a leader faced almost similar situation, but he showed true leader and wrestled the state out of the hands of criminal elements, he didn't point fingers at ibo people, he did not make excuses, he did not run and cry to the federal government for help. Fashola mobilized Lagosians and businesses in Lagos to fight crime, he set up a security fund to fund hundreds of police cars, armored vehicles, BMW power bikes, communication gadgets, 2 new crime fighting helicopters and paying police rapid respond team.

I need you to tell me what your leaders have done to guarantee the safety of your people in your town and villages besides crying and pointing fingers like you're doing on NL?

Now, Lagos is one of the safest states in Nigeria, even your move around freely in Lagos and worry less about killings and kidnapping, something they can not do back in their towns and villages back east.

I can't believe this slowpoke for real, your people are dying and your innocent school kids are getting kidnapped and his talking about enterprising ibo people?

Of what use is your wealth and enterprise if you have zero security, if you're damn scared to walk around like a free man in your own town, if the safety of your kids is not guaranteed?

Babapupa, You are the biggest illiterate that I have ever met online. Which part of Nigeria is not under siege, including your lagos state. People are being robbed, despoiled and killed at this moment in Lagos state, and here you are claiming that Lagos state is the safest city in Nigeria (With all the poverty, slums and piles of refuse still abound despite all of Fashola's effort). What even gave you the impression that the Kidnappers in Abia state are Igbos?
I don't like to argue with illiterates like you because you can never say anything that will make my argument with you knowledgeable and worth the time spent.
I gave you some links. Read them and educate yourself properly about the kidnapping trend. Nkita ara.

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=522647.msg6854315#msg6854315 date=1285917781]Niggra, anything u do, do not mention The United States in the same breath as your Kidnapping, Cannibalistic and drug dealing kin! angry

[/quote]LOL! Akata slowpoke! Which country on earth gat more dumb drug skulls (Exactly like your own?) than the United states? What about genocide, and Kidnap cases? Anyway, I better kidnap and eat other human beings than allow another D'iCk to widen my As's hole like other dicks do to yours. Latino "G'ay" Ba's'tard. Get out of here before you cause a contagious plaque. Freaking Disease! Lol!

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 7:11am On Oct 01, 2010

babapupa:
Every corner of Nigerian is facing the same youth unemployment issue and [b]you don't see youths in other parts of Nigerian slaughtering and kidnapping their own people and innocent children because of greed/Money.

This is purely a social culture of mean-spiritedness and violence prevalent in the average ibo community and we see the same culture of violence in America where ibo men are killing their wives and the mothers if their kids. They just have no respect and value for human life.

The greatest insult is the fact that every ibo man from the leadership to the ones on NL will forever point fingers elsewhere and blame other people for problems emanating from under their noses from their Biafra misadventure till this second. [b]It is really silly and dishonest to say things are bad because your own country men are imposed on you? [/b]It's like ibo people don't believe in responsibility and accountability. Are they not your own brothers and sisters and don't ya'll speak the same language?

[b]You are a very big liar and a hypocrite. So, in other parts of Nigeria, there is no slaughtering and kidnapping of people by their own people. I will use the west as an example because you are from there. Sebi the Assassination of prominent yoruba people, armed robberies, Car snatching, Poisoning, ritual murders etc in Lagos and other Yoruba states are done by the Igbos? What about the recent clash in Oyo state that led to the death of many Yoruba people. Was it not a prominent Yoruba monarch that brutalised his wife almost to death? Is Edo state not in the mid-west? Was it not of recent that their traditional rulers placed a curse on Kidnappers to stem the rate of the act in the state? YOU ARE A DUMB TRIBALIST. NA JEALOUSY FOR IGBOS GO KILL YOU. NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY, YOU CAN NEVER BE AS ENTERPRISING AS AN IGBO MAN. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE TOLD ANYWAY. You go around screaming Fashola this, Fashola that, was Lagos any better than Aba before 2007? Freaking hypocrite.

Gawd! you are talking of being mean and violent?! LOL! I hope not to generalise. But history has shown us that Yorubas have more culture of violence behind Hausas. It is a fact. Igbos are hustlers. We can go to the extreme to make money, yes (Just like every enterprising person should be). Some Americans go to the extreme too. It is about the money. Look at your history, it will tell you all. Consistent wars and unnecessary deaths for nothing in Yoruba land. Look at the OPC and their inter-cult wars. They fight for nothing and kill themselves like animals. Yet they remain wretched and diabolical. Did you ever hear of the Bakassi boys killing themselves? Nonsense man.

Boy, your hypocrisy and tribal hatred will send you to hell. The funniest thing is that the more you hate, the more Igbos flourish.

Abeg comot for my way jo.

http://www.nigerianinquirer.com/2010/07/05/ondo-state-pdp-chairman-driver-kidnapped/
http://www.republicreport.com/police-hold-senator-ogunwale-for-kidnapping/
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-390236.0.html
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[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=522647.msg6853959#msg6853959 date=1285911112]Couldnt have said it better; a freaking violent bunch. And the most annoying part is their easy ability to proclaim innocence once caught in the act. freaking disgraceful beasts![/quote]The Stup--id Akata She-male don enter. What is your business with Nigerian issues? Go back to your country. LOL! Akata disease. I thought that your whoring mother that gave birth to you after being banged by an Igbo man has told you to chill. I don't blame you. I blame the man that paid your mother's hospital bill when she was in labor for you. You hate Igbos, Still the mention of "Igbo" makes you wet! You gat to be a NY-MPHO-maniac. If you want to enjoy your stay here, refrain from mentioning "Igbo", or else, you'll come till your dutty "M" string gets sticky. Ewu! LOL!

Politics › Re: Emir Of Lafia's Daughter Kidnapped by Justcash(m): 2:45am On Oct 01, 2010

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=522501.msg6845361#msg6845361 date=1285783470]Why did she travel to Abia?[/quote]I tire o! The girl should have stayed in Lafia! Sigh grin

Politics › Re: Is Aba A Reflection Of What Biafra Would Have Been? by Justcash(m): 2:13am On Oct 01, 2010

[b]It is quite unfortunate that someone that claims to be educated is judging a whole region based on a disturbing situation in a local government of a state.
At least Biafra was never allowed to exist. Why don't you ask why Sokoto, Kano, Lagos, Ibadan, other western states are still very backwards despite the fact that they were homes to the supposed victors, and were never damaged like the East?
Have you ever seen a nation borne out of struggle for freedom in a retrogressive state? Biafrans would have had a bond sealed with blood, because they fought together to make the Biafran nation a reality. When there is such a bond, there is a spirit of unity. With the Unity that could have existed, coupled with the positive business minded attitude of Easterners and the abundant natural resources that would have been at Biafrans disposal, you can never say that Biafra would have been as backwards as Nigeria. Biafra would have been progressive. God blessed Biafra in such a way that the areas that were even very conscious of Land and are less Entreprenerial had Oil in abundance. Biafra would have been a beauty to behold. The fact that it would have been led by an educated, pro-developmental and passionate dictator, Odumegwu Ojukwu (Like Lee Kuan yew), would have been a plus (As far as I am concerned, democracy is a neo-colonial tool in Africa). Biafra would have had Genuine heroes, which is lacking in Nigeria.
Have you ever asked yourself why Igbo Youths are kidnapping? When you deprive a youth that has the urge to make money positively, and you leave him/her to slip gradually into a state of helplessness, what do you expect? Of course the youth will seek for any available way to survive. When there are no jobs, and youths are left to scrape out their own means of livelihood, without any help from a senseless government that had been dominated by the Hausas and Yorubas for a long time, what do you expect?
For real, the ranting and mockery of most Nigerians from other parts of Nigeria is a vindication of the statement of the U.S that Nigeria will split. I really hope it comes to reality, then we will know if Biafra will be retrogressive.
I use my nature to judge the nature of Igbo youths. I know that if I did not get a means to build my business up due to lack of employment or gross neglect from the government, and if I had become helpless, I would have looked for a way to make a living whether dangerously or otherwise. If Igbo youths are given the opportunity to build their businesses, there would have been abundance of jobs, and crime would be less. Even the Igbos that have businesses go through hell because of lack of infrastructures, which the federal government (dominated by Hausas and Yorubas) are directly responsible for. Look at the gross backwardness of Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Before Jonathan (Who atleast recognised the importance of Nnewi), No Nigerian leader deemed it fit to look into the employment generation potentials of those places. A simple loan scheme and provision of basic infrastructures would have created more businesses and employments in those places. Instead, all the government was concerned about was oil, oil and oil. Little wonder why instead of utilising the commercial potential of Places like Onitsha, the government is busy giving license to Petroleum firms to search Anambra lands for Oil. Nonsense!!!
Do you all ever ask why Igbos troop to Lagos and Abuja? You think it is because the places are beautiful? You must be insane if you think that way. The Igbos in those places wants to get closer to the government and basic infrastructures that aids businesses. If you notice, Igbos dominate in Asia and the United states. It is just for stability and business. Igbos troop out of Igbo lands in search of competitive advantage in business. They happen to go to those places and integrate effectively in those societies to make money. That is exactly why Igbos travel to the least expected places in the world, including Iraq.
Biafra would have been stable, and rich and I know that I would never have built my business in Asia.
Those of you talking crap about Igbos know nothing about the Igbos. It is either you Igbo critics are envious, or you simply are dying of ignorance.
Take out basic infrastructures and government support from China, and see how fast China will become a crime den. That is exactly what the federal government dominated by the Hausas and Yorubas has deprived the Commercial conscious east.
The present Politicians that are in the East e.g Orji Uzor Kalu, Ohakim, Theodore Orji, Achike udenwa etc were all imposed on the East. The real men refused to compromise.
As Gowon said, Nigeria would have been nothing without the East. [/b]

Politics › Re: The Only Solution To The Chaos In Aba Is The Return Of Bakassi Boys by Justcash(op): 5:11pm On Sep 29, 2010

idupaul:
I for one thinks its the creation of bakassi boys years ago that has manifested to this level . Dnt u know its ex bakasi boys that are perptrating all this kidnaps after all the were working for the govt and have scene policing loop holes first hand and are nw using it to their advantage. What aba needs is a brutal police force .

[b]There are many reasons why Nigerians indulge in social vices like Kidnapping. Majority of the reasons are due to Government's negligence. We have able bodied men who would rather work as effective vigilante members, than waste themselves as Kidnappers. The issue is that politicians are playing politics with them. So, they are completely ignored if they are not going to abide to the dictates of the governor. Which is wrong. Orji Uzor Kalu Used them in the past, and turned the Nigerian police on them when they refused to remain his political tool.
I hope you know what you are wishing for by asking for a "Brutal" police force. "Police brutality" in the Nigerian context means, policemen being trigger happy, arresting and despoiling inmates, arresting people at will with little or no investigation, unlawful detention, beaten up Nigerians that refuse to bribe them etc. Since Nigeria's police force cannot be professional and effective, why don't we use men that are good enough to handle the criminals unprofessionally and more effectively than the Nigerian police?
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Politics › Re: The Only Solution To The Chaos In Aba Is The Return Of Bakassi Boys by Justcash(op): 10:49am On Sep 29, 2010

ziddy:
Ha! you're the one thinking unintelligently. Is the I.G of police a known/confirmed criminal? Aren't background checks carried out before police recruitment? Aren't you automatically disqualified from such recruitment process if you're found to have a criminal record?

Your thinking process is definitely muddled up

Yes policemen are corrupt and they invariably commit crimes in the line of duty, that is not to say that criminals are recruited into the police force as a matter of policy. Anyone can become a policeman or a pastor, it's the training that makes all the difference.

Before I even argue with you, what do you know about fighting crime? You seem to watch a lot of good cop/bad cop movies. I must tell you that in reality, fighting crime is different. What level has your (Good) I.G of police taken the police force to? When a police force does not know how to use criminals to crush crime, what else can they do? Do you know that Ribadu used ex- Scammers to make a cool sweep of scammers? Do you also know that Akunyili used ex-fake drug specialists to give fake drug practitioners a heck of a time? Why can't the police properly use the Kidnappers in their net to trace and end the kidnapping trend?
If you answer those questions, you will see that you argue in an unintelligent way.

Politics › Re: The Only Solution To The Chaos In Aba Is The Return Of Bakassi Boys by Justcash(op): 10:05am On Sep 29, 2010

ziddy:

You're talking RUBBISH

Take a deep breath & read what you typed all over again

I normally don't reply people like you that think unintelligently. However, I feel that I need to let you know the fact that it is indeed a smart move to keep your enemies close to you. It is the only way you can control them.
I don't mean to deviate, but It was your type of unintelligent thinking that the Gowon led government had when they left the potentials abound in the Biafran army unharnessed after Biafra surrendered at the end of the civil war. Even the Americans used arrested German engineers to attain some technological advancement.
Why don't you make a pastor or Imam the I.G, and watch criminals dance to your doorstep with AK 47 rifles.
Ask yourself why the Bakassi boys are so effective!

Politics › Re: The Only Solution To The Chaos In Aba Is The Return Of Bakassi Boys by Justcash(op): 9:36am On Sep 29, 2010

ayusman16:
and who do you think will be recruited if not the same Kidnappers?

O yes, that will make it easier to identify unrepentant Kidnappers. They will be well grounded in the Kidnapping act and will be very effective, since they know the Modus operandi of Kidnappers.
Developed countries use hardened criminals to arrest unrepentant hardened criminals. There are some crimes that cannot be fought by people that have not tasted crime.

Politics › Re: The Only Solution To The Chaos In Aba Is The Return Of Bakassi Boys by Justcash(op): 9:28am On Sep 29, 2010

chyz:
the Bakassi is still in Aba. I was there early this year.They patrol the streets in their trucks.The thing about them is that there is not factions stationed in each neighborhood or pivital corners which makes things even easier for kidnappers.they go once or twice around an area and thats it for a long period of time.

The Present set of touts that you see patrolling the streets of Aba are not the same "bakassi boys" of old. I dnt know if they bear the same name, but those touts are just members of a petty vigilante group that acts under the pronouncement of Nigeria's extremely corrupt police force. Their rights of execution are very limited, and they virtually act under the shadows of the Nigerian police force.
How they operate is, if they catch a criminal, they'll have to take the criminal to the police to be detained. As expected, The same criminal will bribe his way out and continue to wreak havoc in Aba.

I am talking of the "Bakassi boys" as we knew them. The ones that were once feared by criminals. The ones that fought crime to a standstill.

Anarchy requires some measure of "Jungle justice" to be curtailed.

Politics › The Only Solution To The Chaos In Aba Is The Return Of Bakassi Boys by Justcash(op): 8:47am On Sep 29, 2010

[b]The unfortunate incidents in Abia state these few days are really disheartening. From the story of a child forced to have S'ex with his mother, to the story of the kidnapping of Nursery/Primary school kids, there is no doubt that the state is in a mess.
These events show how useless the Nigerian police is. I will not be surprised if the police are very much aware of the culprits, but prefer to wait for ransom to be paid for them to get their shares.
The simple solution to the anarchy in Abia state is the re-introduction of the AVS (Abia state Vigilante service), popularly called the "Bakassi vigilante. They should be introduced to carry out activities the way they used to do it. There is an urgent need for a security outfit that will make those criminals to desist from their heinous activities.
The Nigerian policemen are a set of hungry men, who are very scared of losing their lives, and prefer to think of their families than protect the lives they were employed to protect. The worst part is that they are given loaded guns to carry about, and use in harassing Nigerians.
I still cannot understand why the Nigerian police force seem insolvent, and very useless. I also cannot understand why the Nigerian government cannot just introduce state policing. It will be very much more effective than what we have now.
If the Bakassi boys file out in their usual blood thirsty manner, Those criminals will chill like cubes of ice block

However, the Orji's may have their heads chopped off first by the Bakassi boys. So, I bet T.Orji would rather live in the Anarchy than heed to my suggestion.

Very disheartening.[/b]

Politics › Re: Nigerian Youths Corrupt,Uninformed, Unenlightened, Semi-literate,Clueless- Video by Justcash(m): 2:57am On Sep 27, 2010

Poster you are on point. That is politics for you. "Who gets what, when and how".

Politics › Re: Taxi Driver Who Hit Jonathan’s Car Charged For Attempted Murder . by Justcash(m): 1:47am On Sep 27, 2010

Beaf:
By the time you add all the above to the way the totally unconnected Uzoma Okere was somehow stretchered in and woven into the Taxi security breach, the whole article takes on the toga of dishonesty.

Exactly. It is heavily tainted with a blinding color of dishonesty. The poster and some people thinks that ramming into the Nigerian president's car is just normal, when it is not normal in even America with all their human rights respect. They seem not to understand the sentence, "Ramming" a car into another car. Except the story posted is different from what actually happened or fabricated, that taxi driver committed a crime.

Politics › Re: Taxi Driver Who Hit Jonathan’s Car Charged For Attempted Murder . by Justcash(m): 1:27am On Sep 27, 2010

Gbawe:
For this trash

You are indeed the one that gat no clue. I asked you a simple question, and you were so clueless that you thought it was for the trash. LOL! Dude, don't open up topics that you cannot defend. You simply are a bad loser in debates. You have resorted to making short and meaningless statements over facing facts. If you were in GEJ's position, that man would be dead by now. Look at the mirror before you use your hands to type with your heart instead of your brains.

Gbawe:
I have nothing to say to you. I don't discuss with bigots who have a problem seeing individuals ahead of their region of origin. Arrant nonsense . So all Yoruba folks are OPC vigilantes to you? Some of you need to get out and about a bit more.

[b]This shows how senseless you are. So, that was all you could deduce from my statement. Even a child would know that the statement was meant for a comic relief. So, if you tell me that I would give a "Bakassi vigilante" treatment to someone that annoys me, it automatically means that you are being tribalistic?
dude! widen the scope of your intelligence jo! From all indications, you are trying to avoid my question by pretending to feel aggrieved by a harmless statement that I made. Are you not Yoruba? So, if a foreigner tells you that he doesn't want you to give his or her country a "Nigerian military" treatment, it automatically means that the person is racial? Wetin concern OPC treatment and being tribalistic. Does giving someone an OPC treatment mean that you are an OPC member? So a civilian cannot give a fellow civilian a military or OPC treatment without really being in the military or OPC in Nigeria? Would it not have been easier to say that your preference of Fashola in everything political is because you are Yoruba? Yet, I did not see it that way. Now you use an OPC illustration to self-service your aggrieved Manhood.
Gosh, you disgust me!
Once again don't bring up topics that you cannot defend. I can understand that you are trying to discredit GEJ, and I have nothing against it. You need to dig out better facts. [/b]

Politics › Re: Taxi Driver Who Hit Jonathan’s Car Charged For Attempted Murder . by Justcash(m): 7:08pm On Sep 26, 2010

texazzpete:
It is most likely that Jonathan isn't even aware of the fate of the Taxi Driver. As soon as he and his security detail would have determined that the thing was a mere accident, the presidential convoy would move on, leaving a small detachment to take care of the taxi driver.
This is not like how the Imo Governor's convoy stopped. The presidential convoy will not stand still.
Perhaps now Goodluck is aware, the man will be released.

I doubt if the man will be released so soon. He totally embarrassed the president's security detail and will not float for some time because he will be thoroughly interrogated and given a normal Nigerian Police treatment. I pity him. At least he is still alive.

I really don't understand Gbawe and co's point. So, GEJ should let the man go for exposing his security lapse?
Gbawe imagine yourself as the president, and a Man rams into your car that is tucked in the middle of a long convoy, at a time when your political opponents are hot on your heels, What would you do to the man? (From your name I can Visualise you giving him an OPC treatment for Mis-Waka)
Do you guys think that GEJ came to die for your sins, just as Jesus did.

Politics › Re: Taxi Driver Who Hit Jonathan’s Car Charged For Attempted Murder . by Justcash(m): 11:25am On Sep 26, 2010

[b]@Poster;

The Taxi driver "Rammed" into the President's (Then Acting president) car. Rammed!!!! Not just any other car in the convoy, but the one that was conveying GEJ. Add that fact to how tense the period of this incident was (Yar'adua's illness and "Acting" president issue), then you will understand that it doesn't sound ordinary. It is in fact an attempted assassination. In some other countries, bullets would be rained on the car to stop it from getting to the President's car. Especially when the president is in a tense political period with his opposition group. If the taxi driver really made a mistake, then it is a very unfortunate and regrettable one at that. May God almighty help him. Fact remains that his carelessness would have killed the President. No country would take it as lightly as Jonathan is even taking it.
I know that you are Fashola's fan. What if it was Fashola that was rammed into by a taxi driver in Lagos, at a period that someone like Tinubu is threatening to remove him as Lagos state's governor? Where would your thought go to first?
What were you expecting? That the man should be left to go Scott free?[/b]

Politics › Re: Obasanjo Is Trying To Bring About Political Balance In Nigeria by Justcash(op): 1:41am On Sep 25, 2010

PhysicsQED:
I don't think Obasanjo planned anything.

Although Yar-Adua hadn't done anything as a governor except save a little money, he still was an educated man, with a respected and influential last name, and a clean corruption record. He was just a good Northern PDP establishment member choice.

People are giving him too much credit. Anyways, Obasanjo has been a Northern stooge since 1967 but his declaration of support for Jonathan is more in line with wanting to see the people he planted in the executive office succeed over people with no connections to him than some explicit pro-Southern agenda.

[b]Obasanjo was aware of the nature of Yar'adua's illness. He was properly briefed on the possibility of the man to hold on for 8 years in power. All those times that Yar'adua took ill and dropped off from his presidential campaign team, one still wonder why OBJ remained insistent and resolute that it is Yar'adua or no one. He was aware of the nature of his illness and used the man to reach his goal. If it was the turn of the South in anyway, he'd not have allowed a sick man like Yar'adua to continue after the discovery of the severity of his illness. Don't forget that it was foreign doctors that briefed him. No foreign doctor would tell him to allow Yar'adua to continue the stressful task of running for the number one position in Nigeria, considering the nature of his illness. If there is anything like indirect murder, Obasanjo ensured that for Yar'adua. With such an illness, and handling of Nigeria's complex political atmosphere, one can only guess the outcome for an unhealthy president. It is a clear system of elimination that the Kaduna Mafia uses. Very mind bugging.
The political path that Obasanjo chose is clearly anti-North and pro-southern. Right from the administrative composition in his administration, to his choice of candidates, it is very visible. Like you, millions of Nigerians still see him as a Non-entity. That is his leverage. [/b]

redsun:
Who doesn't know that smartness in nigeria means crookedness?hence the acceptance of a retarded,immoral,dubious and evil obasanjo as a smart statesman and leader.

On point. Don't forget that it takes someone with those qualities to wrestle power from IBB and his cohorts, who also possess those qualities.

However, it is indeed a bad thing that Nigeria is in this situation.

Politics › Re: Obasanjo Is Trying To Bring About Political Balance In Nigeria by Justcash(op): 10:44am On Sep 24, 2010

[quote author=Abu-Maryam link=topic=518584.msg6812557#msg6812557 date=1285310702]I agree with you the system can be infiltrated, of course thats why i label some states as rebel northern states, but mind u when those states are busy trying to revolt against united northern Nigeria, at thesame time some politicians from north are engage in trying to get the support of majority christian in south, sometimes i dont want to mention religion name, but becouse of the sensivity of the topic. Yousee if those that are following churches and other religious centre gain support they want the game is open, all those that headed the rebellion states will equally risk being into jail like OBJ. Look OBJ is awere of the repercussion of his acts, dats y he his giving his act names like do or die affair, operation totality and what have u. Truely Obasanjo is trying to bring political balance and[b] the northern cabals will never ever to last drop of their blood agree with that agender. And if you look at the circumstances on the ground the northern cabals has wake up and they'r putting their weight together in the forth coming election to retain power which is certain to happen. [/b][/quote][b]
You seem to forget that while the Northern cabal was in control, antagonism to their agenda never mattered. Would the Northern cabal's antagonism now matter to Obasanjo and co, who are in control now? don't forget who is really with the political power at the moment. It is the people that are with the power that controls how things are going to be in both PDP and Nigeria.
Atiku and IBB are more of outsiders in PDP when compared to Obasanjo (PDP's BOT chairman) and GEJ (President). You need to ask yourself who the PDP chairman is, and who ensured that he came on board? Didn't you notice the magic that happened to that PDP chairmanship post after Yar'adua (RIP) died? Rmember how the PDP chairman was ranting against the Zoning arrangement and speaking out about GEJ being qualified to contest, after he was made the chairman, before he was told to cool down by his men?
Did you see the ease with which the PDP primaries was suspended "indefinitely"? Which PDP governor can come out openly to dare the PDP's Chairman, a Rugged PDP's BOT chairman and the President, without being buried from PDP and Nigerian politics? Who are Bankole (That runs to OBJ when barked at) and David mark (GEJ's right hand man) Loyal to (They control the national assemblies)?
There have been a complete restructuring of the armed forces, with the President's men firmly in charge now. Was the change for fun?
You are still quite confused about where political power is at the moment.
Do you Sincerely think that the scouting and negotiations being carried out by the Northern cabal in the South will be effective? Every single person in the South is tired of the manipulation by the North that results in lack of progress. Was it not OGD that was dancing makossa for GEJ after dining and drinking with IBB?
Finally, I am really forced to ask you this. Do you sincerely think that GEJ will allow Jega to give us a free and fair election? He has the "Initial" strategic majority support as we have seen these few days, meaning that it won't be a surprise if he wins (Rigging or no rigging). Even if Jega should carry out a free and fair election, do you think that the members of the Northern cabal stands a chance? With the mid-belt feeling unsafe with them, you should know that they have little or no vote from there. Worst case scenario (In the case of a free and fair election that does not favor GEJ), a liberal Northerner like Ribadu will take the keys to the presidency. Between OBJ and the northern mafia, we know who Ribadu will willingly be a dummy to.
As it is now, IBB and Atiku stands no chance. Some few days ago, OBJ told the press that there is no doubt that GEJ will represent PDP. He said it affirmatively. He has done his maths properly and he knows the result.
I will really love to see the magic the northern MAfia will do to take back the presidency without taking an influential life. That on it's own is not even a solution. It will signal the beginning of the end of the Nigerian Union. I know they are smart enough not to take up that option.[/b]

Politics › Re: Obasanjo Is Trying To Bring About Political Balance In Nigeria by Justcash(op): 4:05am On Sep 24, 2010

[quote author=Abu-Maryam link=topic=518584.msg6811441#msg6811441 date=1285283791]Nice post since my subcription to this forum, @poster, you have really got the arithmetic of Obasanjo, and let me tell you this, the Northerns are aware of the OBJ's programmes thats waz why the north deny him third term. He succeeded in imposing Yar'adua at the detriment of northern political power. Someone may ask, how did he suceeded in usurping power to Yar'adua?? Obasanjo became victor when Yar'dua die. Northerners did under rate the calculations of Obj untill when it materialised.
Now that they have realised the mistake, the north are smart beyong southerners when it comes to politics thiere is no Jupiter that will bring back Jonathan to power 2011, please dont crucify me. Did u watch how they fool Jonathan on his declaration day?? all PDP governors are there but Saraki, Even governor of sokoto state the arrow head of pro-zoning was there. Some are judging the presence of all PDP governors as a victory to Jonathan but very unfurtunate is not. The northerners are watching the game with there crystalball, obj has tougt them a bitter lesson with EFCC, that was the sole reason for massive attendance of PDP governors. Now the GEJ camp are in comfution who is with them and who is not. Another issue or a blockage to Jonathan is INEC, the man who is there is very rigid, meaning rigging will not work.
There's on going rumors that ACN,CPC and LP are going to merge, if it happens it will finish PDP. Buhari is busy making consultations with Pastors to change his image on the faces of majority christian in south who persive him as extreme muslim. Both Jonathan, IBB, Atiku, Gusau and PDP. Have no where to go in the entire north. If u go by calculations u will get what i'm trying to figure out.
If Buhari became president 2011, consider it south will not get to villa again untill further notice. b'cos Buhari is nationalist he will try to change things the way they are, only your vote will count, and on that bases the south will not go back to villa again. Fear of OBJ is the begining of policy change in the north[/quote][b]I agree with you in most parts, but you are still neglecting the intelligence of that man called Olusegun Mattew Okikiola Aremu Obasanjo. Like I said in my last post, "Obasanjo learnt alot as a Northern puppet". You must understand that Obasanjo fought side by side with the Northern Oligarchy during the Civil war, and was "Remote" Controlled by the North from 1976-1979 as a military leader. He knows the pattern of decisions of the Northern Mafia (Just like Bin Laden knows those of FBI and other American intelligence units).
Now, ask yourself what was going through the brain of Obasanjo when he was locked up by Abacha, awaitng execution? Considering all he had done for the North, the price of death by execution was indeed too bad a price for him. While he was in that state, the Mafia played their game, and brought him back as a president, to continue using him as a puppet. No wonder he thought it was a great miracle from heaven. He was given a chance to fight the North back on a platter of Gold for their great ingratitude to him. Many will say Abacha did not represent the northern Mafia, but Obasanjo was left to die like a Chicken in Jail (As no one cares about the death of a puppet). As a matter of fact, the Northern Mafia only felt the need to intervene because of the cheap way their prominent and influential member, Shehu Musa Yar'adua was killed by Abacha. They didn't do it because of a certain incarcerated Olusegun Aremu Obasanjo. Obasanjo was very well aware that if Shehu Musa Yar'adua was untouched, and Abacha was not too defiant to the wishes of the Mafia, He would have been executed like a chicken by Abacha (Like IBB did to Mamman Vatsa), and nobody in the North would feel his absence.
The fact remains that Obasanjo has alot of tricks in his bag to counter the maneuvering of the Northern Mafia. Do you know that Obasanjo did not only use EFCC as a tool. The choice of Umaru Musa Yar'adua (RIP) was a killer punch (Considering his reference to honoring the late Shehu Musa Yar'adua with that at that time). It completely left the Mafia helpless and divided about his Objective. It was late into Yar'adua's tenure that Obasanjo's tricks dawned on them. Should I call it lack of knowledge of the true state of Yar'adua's health, The Northern Political Mafia never knew that Yar'adua could hardly make it for 8 years. They were further deceived by the "supposed" Humility and seeming cowardice of the man chosen as Yar'adua's vice president (They never knew that Jonathan was a silent hitman for Obasanjo).
The fact that you and them thinks that Obasanjo will use EFCC again to ensure that GEJ wins is very very deceptive. You can never say the angle that he is gonna come from. Do you really think that OBJ is not aware that many of the Northerners at the declaration were not for real? You have to wait until GEJ plays out the script that he has read from OBJ before you can understand the new trick that was used.
One thing I am sure of is that it will not be easy for the North to capture that seat without GEJ being Killed to make Sambo (Who may be defiant to Obasanjo) to take up the post. The ease with which you think that the North can get that seat back is really surprising. I think you should re-assess the situation at hand. If the situation was not too serious, IBB would have relaxed and ensured that his and the Mafia's puppet is installed, without necessarily deeming it fit to contest. Moreover, Since Obj could not take down IBB and co as a president, due to his questionable deals in the past, he is raising people that can do just that. IBB and co are aware of this, little wonder why they are fighting tooth and nail for Zoning (To the extent of contesting with who they called a Political nobody in Nigeria). That Political nobody can (And will) take all of them down when he wins.
Obasanjo is a very intelligent man. Contrary to the insinuation of many Nairalanders, he is preparing other Southerners by beefing them up with such intelligence to ensure the emergence of a southern Mafia that is equal to that in the North. That will ensure political balance in Nigeria.

Nigeria's politics is one of the most complex in the world.

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Politics › Re: Obasanjo Is Trying To Bring About Political Balance In Nigeria by Justcash(op): 4:55pm On Sep 23, 2010

miketobo:
Giyas, good talk, what do you people mean by been smart? is there anybody in this world that is as selfish as OBJ? did he ever allow a free and fair election in Nigeria till date? a man that supported Adedibu till he dies. Why cant Nigerians read inbtw the lines, He put yaradua by force against our wish and it did not benefit him now he thinks this will benefit him that is why he is pretending to suppose the South, Zoning is very good and he knows it but because of his selfish motive he is fighting against it. A Goodluck presidency is a sgood as his 3rd term bid so be careful,

[b]The point is that Nigerian masses, especially those in the South wish for leadership that has nothing to do with ethnic affiliation. This is what the Northern politicians are very frightened about. They don't want leadership to flow freely in Nigeria because they want to always be in control and dictate the pace of political issues. If you are an ardent follower of Nigerian politics, you will know that the Northern Mafia has always been in control of Nigeria's politics. They have their hands in every handover and military takeover that happened in Nigeria.
Their intention in 1999 was to remain in control. That was why they chose their tested and trusted dummy, Obasanjo. That was due to Obasanjo's record of obedient and loyal service to the will of North (when he effectively handed over to Shehu Shagari in 1979 as they told him to do without arguments as a military dictator). That gave them the confidence that he would remain their puppet. Unfortunately, they failed to see that he had been shaken by a close brush with death under Abacha. Obasanjo was definitely not enjoying his dummy status anymore, so he decided to play the game with them.
It is of late that the North realised how smart Obasanjo was. They are very well shaken at the moment. They are throwing all they have to ensure that they maintain the political status quo. However, there is no doubt that Obasanjo learnt alot as a puppet.
My point is that, even if the Nigerians in the South Agrees to drop this ethnic/regional induced politics, it will take 40 or more years of fasting to convince the North to drop it. There is a clear feeling in the North that if everything is done as they should be, they stand no chance. I really can't understand why they feel that way.

Jonathan is talking today because of Olusegun Aremu Obasanjo. It is Obasanjo that is doing the ground work. Jonathan is like a kid that went to an elder (North) and gave him a dirty slap, knowing very well that something is backing him (Obasanjo). All those steps you saw Jonathan taking were given to him by a Man with experience, that knows all the tricks of the Northern political Mafia. Little wonder why It didn't take IBB and Atiku time to start thinking about stepping down for themselves in order to beat a supposed small man in politics.

Nigerian politics is too dirty to be cleaned in a day. It needs a thorough re-organisation first. That is what is happening at the moment.[/b]

Politics › Re: Obasanjo Is Trying To Bring About Political Balance In Nigeria by Justcash(op): 10:41am On Sep 23, 2010

ALMUSTAQIM:
HERE IS THE PDP ZONING FORMULAR AS DRAWN IN 1999 AS I KNOW IT:

ASSUMING 2 TERMS EACH;

PRESIDENT V. P. SEN. PRES. H. OF REP
1999 SW NE SE NW
2007 NW SS NE SW
2015 SE NC SS NE
2023 NE SW NC SE
2031 SS NW SW NC
2039 NC SE NW SS

What happens when a zone produces only candidates that has nothing to offer when it is their turn? For example, what if during the turn of the South East, PDP fields T.Orji, ACN fields Orji Uzor Kalu and ANPP fields Ohakim? (They will be the probable choices because they will make good Northern Dummies) That will mean a condemnation of Nigerians to further under-development for 8 wasted years. It means that if you have a child on the day that they are elected, for 8 years, that child will grow into a modern deprived Agbero. God forbid bad thing!!!!!! I will just gradually take my generation out of Nigeria.

Zoning limits alternatives. For example, If fashola can really transform Lagos into a world class city, then he should take a shot at transforming Nigeria through being the president, without being limited by Zoning. We need progress.

Politics › Re: Obasanjo Is Trying To Bring About Political Balance In Nigeria by Justcash(op): 8:16am On Sep 23, 2010

ilugunboy:
Good morning

But some people that OBJ are helping are not seeing this. Brake this turn-by-turn presidency today and I assure you that the Igbos will be in charge of both the economic and political structures of this country. Why?

The truth is that they have the single largest population in Nigeria (If we actually do an accurate census which their new found lovers-Hausa/Fulanis dont want)

The spread of the population like in Lagos can easily give them the leverage to gain power in a state such as Lagos and Rivers

They largely control the informal economy and their hold on small trade give them access to finance.

The power of town unionism can be tapped into to reach the nook and cranny of Nigeria.

If only we can brake this turn by turn thing now that the opportunity beckons

[b]
Olusegun obasanjo is doing this with a specific target of retaining power in the south and within his control. He doesn't really care about which southern ethnic group takes up the post next. He is interested in creating equity in political structure in Nigeria, so that the North (Who thought that he was the biggest manipulative southern fool) cannot be controlling the south like dummies. People like Orji Uzor Kalu are still not sure if political power control is actually changing hands, that is why they have one foot with the North and the other out.
Obasanjo must have learnt from his past as a Northern dummy, and must have seen the catastrophic consequences which almost took his life too (Abacha). So, he played along with the Northerners initially, and massively established himself in power, so as to control things to the favor of the south when he got out of there. He strategically chose Jonathan, because Jonathan will forever remain his humble and loyal dummy. Believe it or not, the next person after Jonathan will still be Obasanjo's dummy. He gat nothing to lose anyway, he is an old man already. Just making the way for his coming generation who will be southerners too.[/b]

Education › Re: Reinvent Fraternities In Nigerian Universities? by Justcash(m): 7:56am On Sep 23, 2010

VALIDATOR:
^^^
It is an extremely dangerous idea. Most of the current frats now started on a "noble" mission but there is always at least a Judas is every gathering.
Frats are easier to start up than manage and I see absolutely no need for them in our campuses. You dissolving offending frats means you will be accused of bias and they will then start operating in the dark and that is Back to square one.

On point. If you know the complexity of campus cultism in Nigeria, you'll understand that you need to start outside the campus with very top societal figures before you will succeed in what you plan to do. If not, you may start it, and end up as a victim. Lol!

Politics › Obasanjo Is Trying To Bring About Political Balance In Nigeria by Justcash(op): 7:35am On Sep 23, 2010

[b]Olusegun Obasanjo is indeed a very smart Man. He is the only individual from the Southern part of Nigeria with the ability to manipulate and counter the political maneuvering by the more organised Nigerian North. Since he touched leadership in 1999 and left in 2007, Nigerian political sphere, which was dominated and controlled by the Northerners has never been the same. People call the man a fool, but he is indeed a smart dude.
The fact that he has cemented an invincible control in the leadership and political structure of Nigeria has ensured an equitable and more sensitive political atmosphere in Nigeria. He carefully selected a weak and moderate Northerner, Yar'adua (May his soul rest in perfect peace) with a plan to control him, knowing very well that the nature of the Man's illness may not allow him to finish his 8 years tenure. He also selected an able bodied Ijaw man, knowing that in the case of a sudden death by the president, it will be difficult for the Ijaws, who never dreamt of having the presidential post, to allow that post to slip away. By doing that, he ensured that power hovered around the south and within his control. If Jonathan is allowed to lead for four years, I won't be surprised if power is handed over to an Igboman, because there are already talks that GEJ is still running with the Yar'adua/GEJ ticket. Moreover, If the zoning arrangement is broken, it means that anyone from any ethnic group can emerge as the president.
On the other hand, this will create a new set of supreme political structure in the south that will have an equal strength with the political structure in the North. It will ensure that each region completes equal years of leadership between themselves. The Northerners are aware of this, that is why they are fighting to scuttle it.

I wish Nigeria can run a political system devoid of ethnic considerations, but national upliftment and development. At the end of the day, it is forward movement that matters, not leadership equity.
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