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jon007:
hi nairalanders i'm a todler on the site and i really want to make friend pls how do i add frnds cos the site is just 2 cool, funny and sweet like puxxy

How does that taste?

mayana7:
hi,the first two is free of charge,you will not pay for participating in the program.
tanx

What will i pay for then? So who pays for the ticket and accommodation cos u said ALL paid for.

10cirenoh:
You keep making allegations here and there, but you have refused to post factual ones, whats with Osama and Gaddaffi? we are discussing Gaddaffi here, so hush from the Osama myth shitz.Now back to the issue, you said Gaddaffi is killing, i asked for evidence, you posted videos of unclear killings which could have been from any of the sides fighting eachother, is that the best you can come up with?
I asked you series of questions, none has been answered by you, i just think i am wasting my time with you because you are actually the one not reasoning well, nor are you using your head to think neutrally.In his 42 years rule, have you ever heard of any crisis in Libya? i asked you if you knew why they are fighting even after giving you tips, yet you failed to answer.Waste of time and bandwidth

I will never post any graphic video here again, unlike u i actually feel uncomforable posting those clips let alone viewing them, just like every fanatic, u got no problem viewing dead bodies. The WEST is bad but Gaddafi's son studied, lived  and bought houses in the WEST, banked in the WEST, print money in the WEST, buy weapons from the WEST. How is it ok for one person to stay in power for 42yrs?

10cirenoh:
Too bad you are one of those people, should have known since, so because i don't lick azz, i am automatically a west hater? I repeated the questions because you haven't answered nada from my questions. Well you said some of my questions were repeated by me, what about the rest that weren't repeated, where are the answers to these ones?
You haven't made any point since you've been typing, NOW TELL ME, what point are you trying to make?

Like i said to you b4, my points here will not make any sense to you cos you are programmed to think that WEST is BAD, anyting ant-WEST is good.

Its the old argument, you will never see the killings carried out by dictators who spew out ant-WEST agenda.

Osama was killed and some fanatics are demomstrating burning American flag but at the same time, in SYRIA army is busy shooting at citizens, dead bodies on the street but NO single al-Qaeda lovers is condeming it, the moment the WEST takes action everyone of u will come out of woodwork to spew garbage.

fireline:
Another one asking for information the could get wit a look at GOOGLE.
Ok
Jordan
On every street corner is pot of money with sign saying "Take what you want"
Free Gov housing for all immigrants. Single person = 4 room appt. Maried family get house with land for farm.
Free electricity & cooking gas.
Beautifull girls all cary sign saying take me to bed, Marry me & I will get you work visa.
All jobs have by law to be any immigrant without qualifications.
When you get there there is free medical care for any family members.
State airline will fly relatives in for free treatment at hospital.
There is free education for all.Any money sent back home is doubled by Gov.
After one month you can sponsor children & relatives for work permit.

Godmother:
Well said. Nobody has a direct line to God. Listening to them is what got you confused in the first place

You know some of us Nigerians see pastors as next to God, we sometimes disregard our inner mind and take that of a pastor without even a second thought.

We got hooked into this imaginary false believe that the pastor has answer to all our problems.

hoeyeadoe:
Certainly not so far in my life have I imagined that it might be difficult  to decide between two men- I've always thought making decisions was likened to brushing one’s teeth (you always have an option).

I have two wonderful men in my life - one was my ex and the other, is my current. I left my ex 'cos I wanted to see what the outside world had to offer. I met my current 'cos he was supposed to be  the first specimen- told my friend it would last 2 weeks but it's lasting almost 2 years already.

My ex is back because he's met with a number of pastors & prophet-ess (UNSOLICITEDLY) and they've told him that it will be best if I'm part of his life. He is a sweet guy(occasionally), writes for me (really really like) but my pastor said ‘nay’ (spirit led encounter).
My current bf is very desirable -  never met a guy as HOT as him in reality- easy going, cool, collected although inseparable from him first family ( they are the first to know if he's going to get a new car, but I think I can deal with that) but my pastor said ‘yes with a selfish clause’ (spirit led encounter).Anyways, they're both asking for my hand in marriage and I'm as confused as the Libyan rebels when they saw that they had nuked their own plane, partly due to indecision as to which of these men I should be with and partly due to my semi- anti marriage vibes.
Does anyone have a useful/helpful/reasonable suggestion as to how to reconcile this dilemma?

Stop taking advice from ur pastors, they are ur problem.

Edgefactor:
Many thanks for your comments. Not to sound defensive. I am sure you know that different school have different fees. (I am sorry for the wrong figures quoted though, I can assure you that it was an error). As for deceit, that is definitely not out intentions. Studying abroad is not a cheap venture and with the recent announcement by the UK Prime minister, those schools offering fees that are much much lower are going to have it a bit rough as from next year. So a lot of those schools are going to loose their ratings. Not all will make the next screening and I can assure you that not all agents will survive as well.We have only presented a list of courses and the start date and the fee (again I apologies for the error). What we would really like to see is interested student call us up or come into our office to really see if that is what suits them best so we can give appropriate advice. After the student makes up his or her mind then we can proceed to apply on their behalf. It can be a long process as some students don't really know what they want or what they should be studying. By the way, we are having a presentation next week ; Skills 4 the Future 1.0 . We have been mapping the developments and skills required by an emerging market like Nigeria and Africa at large and we have put together this presentation for those who want to stay relevant in the future.I really hope to hear from people who are genuinely interested and can afford it. Please do not hesitate to keep the comments coming, they actually makes us better.

Let me just put it on record here that i'm not interested in runing anybody's business down, and thanks for addressing the issue maturely. My point is this: That fees is far too high for a pre-degree college course, paying £6500 for semester is just too expensive that means £13000 for a yr, its just unthinkable.
There are far better offers out there for university courses, even cheaper, i'm basically saying. . .ur clients are been cheated NOT by u but the choice of school they made. Its only fair that u look around for somethng more acceptable finanicially for them.

Yababoy:
Alright thanks so much

No worries, good luck

Yababoy:
A postgraduate study wouldn't need the test?

Not at all.

@mayana7

You mean the conference is free for anybody intrested? All paid?

Yababoy:
Hi Justwise and co, u guys are doing a yo man's job here, uve affected and helped so many people. Please I need clarification on the quote below from the UK border agency site, does it mean applicants now need to write an English Test?

Yes any course below degree level required an English test.

Edgefactor:
University of Swansea has an affiliate college ICWS, U can check them out too. Thats the pathway for students that have WAEC/NECO. ICWS is  part and parcel of Uni of Swansea. So you would live and receive lectures on campus,  That explains the variation in fees. I hope this helps?

Ok, i have seen the school website, but  fees there are different from what u said here again, a semeter in business foundation degree course is £6500, 2 semesters is £9000 still foundation degree course, this is far too expensive for a college rated A(Trusted by UKBA)

Why don't u tell prospetus students the truth from day one? With £9000 one can do a yr undergrade course in the UK in an university and not college.

Why are hiding the truth from pple?

Edgefactor:
Fee is stated on the advert. Living expenses is aprox 5400 GBP. Feel free to visit our office as stated on the ad. Hope to see you soon sir.

I don't live lagos, i checked the school and the fees stated there is higher than wat u said here, its £9800 in their website.

Edgefactor:
Swansea University, Wales. All you need is your WAEC/NECO result. You could be in school by September 2011. So give us a call today

Only that? How fees and other expenses?

@Edgefactor

Which university is that?

Some of the questions u keep repeating over and over again have been answered here many times but as usual, some of u have been brainwashed to hate anything WEST from birth, so there is nothing anybody will say that u will ring bell. You will never get it and its pointless trying to point things out for u. Even if i open your skull and buried all the facts u will still think like a fanatic

10cirenoh:
I have tried to be very reasonable with you, but it seems you just love to type, i asked you series of questions, but you have refused to answer just one of them, Now let me put it back to you :

No fly zone was imposed by who?
most of the sophisticated weapons used by the "militants/rebels" were supplied by who?

You clearly do not know anything about Libya and why they are fighting, i suggest you go back to google, search and study about the complexity of the Libyan people and country, it sure might help you.

  You asked if they were living well, why then are they fighting, i told you to ask the west who supplied the rebels weapons to kill their own people and to destroy their own country.

Let me give you a tip :

Oil
foreign investors/interest
Ethnic hatred/divide
Dictatorship
Bullying/oppression/Anger.


These are the 5 major front running issues they are facing right now, so you should be able to detect why the Libyan people are fighting and killing eachother with the aid of the western interest.

Can you name 1 or 2 major internal crisis under Gaddaffi since he's been there for 42yrs now?
Can you also show us if Gaddaffi has any previous and historical human right abuse record on his people?

DeeJay20:
I dey fine CAP28. I just chillin and observitlyng peoples post on Nairaland, and watching as
2011 unfolds, i can see you are still fighting the good fight of disconstructing lies and myths
and putting ignorant nairalanders to shame, keep up the good work! i shall be posting shortly.

I just read on yahoo news that some americans are skeptical that the US Govt killed Bin Laden lol!!!

If u really believed that ur leader Osama is still alive then i feel sorry for ur mental make up.

queensmith:
^^ you know what, I'm not going to continue arguing with you because it isnt going to change anything- All those who tried to promote change and expose the western governments of imperialism ended up dead or ended up surrendering. If they died for the likes of yourself, they truly wasted all thier time!

The West is not our problem, we Africans are the problem, some of u supporting murderers are far too wicked, only in Africa u see a leader staying in power for life and ready to kill anybody that stands on his way THEN blame the WEST.

Like i said b4, Gaddafi's time will come, very soon Liybans will live happily without that blood sucking dictator.

Some of u are quite happy to seat and watch those dictators murder their own pple with impunity, the lives of innocent Libyans means nothing to u but when it comes to Gaddafi's children everyone of you is sweating blood. Wicked souls.

@dammiedex


Thanks for clariying that.

queensmith:
watch them again- none of those videos prove gadaafis army opened fire on protestors
the second video shows people running out of a burning building, these soo called peaceful protestors set fire to a government building. You go and try it in the US or UK and see what happens to you

Im guessing you also defend what happened in northern nigeria as 'peaceful protesting'?
EXACTLY!!!! who exactly is fighting who! this is a civil war! the libyans are fighting each other! Most of them actually want gadaafi to remain in power! but of course sky news wont show you that! Or why do you think all this is happening NOW? how many libyans do you personally know?? how much suffering do you hear of?

If that happens in the UK the police will never open fire on the protesters, actaully during the student fees protest building were smashed, police attacked but no single police man open fire on anybody, don't compare UK to blood sucking Gaddafi.
I know that no matter how many clips of dead bodies i paste here some of u Gaddafi will still make some baseless arguments. Yes some want Gaddafi to stay and that is just very few, Skynews gives balanced coverage of the event unlike Gaddafi TV, what happened in northern Nigeria is just sad and the sooner some muslims stop behaving like wild animals the better for Nigeria.

10cirenoh:
^^^^^^


Now i see how bias and sentimental you are against Gaddaffi, show me where he maltreated his people, lets see if there won't be poor people in Libya again after he's gone. you obviously do not know anything about Libya and why they are fighting. go and ask the west why they came to cause problem where there was none.

So the WEST started the prob? Do you really want me to take anything u say seriously after that garbage? Do you know anything at all about the Libyan problem? So the WEST started it? How old are u if i may ask?

10cirenoh:
You should try to educate yourself, not all Libyans can live as kings and queens, but MAJORITY of them did and still do, if[b] you are to choose to either live in Nigeria or Libya, which are you going to choose? be sincere to your poor soul.[/b]
Educate yourself, go and look as the SOL of Libyans then compare with that of most western nations.
post your result here.
Thanks

I will take Nigeria any day, anytime, if Libya is that gr8 as u painted it why then are they fighting? Gaddafi is Libya and Libya is Gaddafi, he owns the wealth and kill anybody that dare to speak out. Nigeria will never have a leader who stays in power to 42yrs, no Nigerian leader will dare do what Gaddafi is doing to his own pple. Libyans want to be free, they don't want to fed and forced to read the green book

I can't wait to see Gaddafi gone and Libyans will have the last laugh, just like Osama, his days will come and it may not take long

10cirenoh:
Man help yourself, i ask you again, how can you differentiate between those who were shown in the video as dead people and the the civilians? it seems you don't understand something, Libya is not a one tribe/ethnic country, there are people against Gaddaffi because of his tribe, hope you know the country is also similar to Sudan? there's this question you haven't answered, i asked you "Do you know the difference between a fully armed "civilian" to an innocent unarmed civilian?"

If they were innocent civilians, how come they easily know how to export oil, they have enough weapon to withstand the MAIN country's military force known to the world as one of the best in Africa or are you truying to see it's because of the few barracks that Gaddaffi built in the other side of the country where he's hated for his tribe?  Just tell me, Do you think Libya truly have a reason to complain about Gaddaffi's 42 years rule?

  ONE THING YOU CANNOT TAKE AWAY FROM GADDAFFI IS THE FACT THAT HE MADE HIS COUNTRY AND HIS PEOPLE LIVE LIKE KINGS AND QUEENS even in Africa known to be poor by the rest of the world, he made sure the lives of his citizens compete with that of the developed world.

So if they are living like kings why then are they fighting? Or could it be that only Gaddafi and his tribe are living like king while the rest starve? If all Liybans are living like king then everybody should be happy. Are u really serious? Who in his right mind stays in power for 42yrs? Is Gaddafi the only Libyan? Gaddafi is a murderer, an evil dictator, the USA did not start the revolt against Gaddafi, his own pple started it then he decided to crush everything that stands against him. Libyans finally summon courage to challenge him just like the Egyptains and Tunisains did and won.

dammiedex:
3k initial payment and others follows, LOL

dammiedex:
Nothing goes for free,

So u are the poster? 3K and more for worthless e-book?

10cirenoh:
@Justwise

 So because they send money to your country, they should not be criticized even when they are wrong? what are you even trying to say here? BTW, how has the money they send to Nigeria helped me or any of my family member?

 What on earth are you saying? you said Gaddaffi shot and killed people, i asked you for evidence, you posted some links which didn't explain anything because these video could have represented the rebels killing civilians or the other way round, have you actually seen how the rebels themselves look? have you seen their weapons? have you seen the 4X4 they drive? WHERE on earth would civilians get MASSIVE weapons from?

Some of those weapon were left in army baracks deserted by some Gaddafi army who refused to shoot their own pple and joined ant-Gaddafi movement. I can't be bothered again uploading graphic videos of the killings, visit youtube u will see more than enough, however 10cirenoh, i don't expect u to believe those video cos its obvious that u have made up ur mind already about who to blame about the world's problem, its all America problem and the rebels are killing themselves, Gaddafi hasn't killed anybody

10cirenoh:
And you call these people "unarmed civilians"? civilians exporting oil?

How do u know they were armed and exporting oil? Even if they were caught exporting oil do they deserved to be slaughtered in cold blood?

JeSoul:
You didn't even touch the worst of all JW, the hundreds of millions of dollars Nigeria (and many tens of other countries) receives every year from America in Foreign Aid - mostly to battle HIV and other diseases I believe. In the 2011 US Budget, Nigeria is slated to receive >$600 million dollars.

. . . but hey, that doesn't matter, remember America is the devil and wants to recolonize Africa.

Thank you!!!! My old school mate works with one of those HIV NGOs and ALL i mean ALL their funding comes from America govt and u don't hear anybody complain.

[quote author=Brand_new link=topic=659731.msg8258803#msg8258803 date=1304524409] Lol! I can't but laugh.

Na owu go kill you.[/quote]You so happy that u met a white woman for the first time in ur life? Tell me what is incredible about this story? Meeting a white germany woman? Spending ages looking at her chest? Lying through ur backside about who u are? What exactly is great about this story?

10cirenoh:
Help yourself, SHOW me one complete video or picture of where Gaddafi sent out his army to kill innocent Libyans for carrying out peaceful demonstration. JUST ONE!

hope you know the difference between a fully armed "civilian" to an innocent unarmed civilian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRrkpuMEzfA&feature=related

10cirenoh:
Help yourself, SHOW me one complete video or picture of where Gaddafi sent out his army to kill innocent Libyans for carrying out peaceful demonstration. JUST ONE!

hope you know the difference between a fully armed "civilian" to an innocent unarmed civilian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFSR8UMjFRk&skipcontrinter=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV22rbo8Itw&feature=related

oada:
no i dont, i just want to know what it entails to relocate if possible now that the HSMP has been banned.

Its even much harder now, is either u have job offer and get sponsored by the company or u have millions of naira to invest in the UK and then secure business visa in the UK. OR u apply for degree or masters degree course and ur family joins in the UK