Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 1:29pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 1:25pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
komekn: Consider the proposition you have presented in bold. I have to be brutally honest with you it's nonsensical without any substance whatsoever.
Every country sells it UAV hardware at different prices simply because they can.
But there are huge disparities in price and indeed difference in quality which is open to never ending debate.
Nonetheless, currently BOKO don't have high end technology in terms of anti aircraft mitigation then a Chinese UAV will be more than sufficient.
Actually the Wing Loong II is classed with the USA MQ that costs $30 million but costs a fraction of that price at $1million. Countries sell military equipment at competitive prices, it's basic common sense. They do not sell at different prices because they can. This is literally the worst comment I have read online. Why would an MRAP in Nigeria and South-Africa cost about the same? If a customer pays for an MRAP in South-Africa for 50 naira, why would he pay for that same vehicle in the same class for 1000 naira? This is why your post makes no sense. I don't disagree with you on the use of UAVs, intact this is the only good idea I have read from you since you began commenting on this thread. I however disagree on your spurious claims, mainly poorly researched with regards to costs. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 1:13pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
komekn: [s]I want to presume that you went university at least. Having that thought in mind, you should transfer the basic methodology that underpins research.
Albeit this is not academic but even if you were presenting before a corporate board. You would approach matters with objectivity, substantive deduction and projection under pinned with rational.
First of all why all the insult and degradation. This is supposed to be a forum.
Why don't you do some basic open source investigation to prove me wrong.
You completely evade the topic, you do not address the issues directly, you dismiss substantive deduction but with nothing of substance. You are emotive and not objective
Your approach is to you use comparison by conjecture to make a conclusion. However, it has zero weighting in method or logic. The variables you use do not converge for inferences by comparison to be made.
Then you call me a clown with delusion based fantasy, that's derogatory.
I will use your own confused irrational unit of measurement to address your misguided response. [/s]
Turkey are doing a transfer of technology agreement with Tunisia as well as building 3 ground control stations. The 6 Drones are part of the package of the $240 million contract. How much does it cost to build one ground control station ❓ ow much does it cost per unit for each drone.❓❓
There are a number of variables you would have to consider in the Turkey to Tunisia UAV contract. For instance the existing communications infrastructure and if Indeed if they have any.
The next thing what value has Turkey put on, intellectual capital and how that relates to the contract sum. Before you can make any projections on unit cost of the actual UAV. However you do none of these things and yet you call me a clown.
I talked about unit price per Chinese UAV these costs are well documented on the global UAV market.
Ukraine bought 12 UAV'S from Turkey for a unit price of $4-5 million, the contract sum for the 12 UAV's was $69 million. I am using specialist global consultancies as my reference point. Although l do not have the full report that could cost upwards of $5000. I have the basic information which is suffice for our purposes here.
So using your unit of measurement in which it is implied by you that each UAV cost $40 million. That's about 10 time or more the actual cost of Turkish UAV. As you are quite obviously wrong.
What than does that make you ❓ Does that make something much more than a clown❓❓❓
So because Turkey sell thier UAV for $4 million and the USA sells thier for $30 million and China sells thier $1 million. It must be untrue and a fantasy. It seems you are one of those people that take comfort in ignorance of the truth and rather support the lie to feed your emotive based prejudices and misguided sense of patriotism.
Expecting an apology from you would be too much, I guess. You go out of your way to constantly and deliberately misinform unsuspecting individuals in this thread. Again you have falsely claimed Ukraine paid 69 million dollars for 12 UCAVs from Turkey. In direct opposite to this information all credible sources show Ukraine paid turkey 69 million dollars for 6 units of Earlier this year, Baykar Makina won a $69-million contract to sell six Bayraktar TB2 UAVs, advanced reconnaissance and intelligence drones, to Ukraine. https://www.defensenews.com/unmanned/2019/01/14/turkish-firm-to-sell-drones-to-ukraine-in-69-million-deal/https://www.google.com/amp/s/ahvalnews.com/turkey-russia/expanded-turkey-ukraine-defence-cooperation-focuses-drones%3famp You constantly go out of your way to make spurious claims on this thread, and for what agenda if I may ask? You false made a claim that 50 million dollars would give the Nigerian Air Force 50 UCAVs from China, this is a lie!!! In the event that Nigeria purchases 50 units of Wing loong UCAVs for above 50 million dollars you would be the first to run to town with claims of corruption. As can be seen from various sources I have posted it's is not possible. Referring to you as a clown is not an insult, it is a representation of the laughable posts you are soon keen on making in this thread. As you continue to make spurious claims in your false hope that no one researches to verify them, be rest assured I will verify each of your claims. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:03pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
mekussa: But you that ALSO doesnt know the cost of the Saudi deal is sure the figures quoted are wrong because someone else paid higher for another drone of the same class? Like I said, you use the cost of the most recent foreign military UCAV sale of same class to make your comparison. There is nothing like the same. If an F-15QA the latest variant costs 90 million dollars, it means that the SU-35 would cost between 80 and 85 million dollars. If a JF-17 costs 40 million, the Tejas should cost around 35 and 45 million dollars. They are all in the same class and would have similar costs. The most recent MALE purchase cost 240 million dollars for 6 units, as such it is completely disingenuous to claim Nigeria can get 50 units of UCAV for 50 million dollars. It's a subtle jab at the Nigerian Air Force, plain and simple calling the Air Force incompetent, and making spurious poorly researched claims. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:41am On Apr 18, 2020 |
kabe1: Nigerian Air Force Tucano
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:48am On Apr 18, 2020 |
Nigerian made MRAP and LAV APC
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:57am On Apr 18, 2020 |
Kenya C-27j
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 8:25am On Apr 18, 2020*. Modified: 10:46am On Apr 18, 2020 |
mekussa: The fact that Turkey sold her drones for 40 million dollars doesn't mean all drones have to be 40 million dollars. The WING LOONG II he mentioned were purchased by Saudi Arabia and the UAE for less than 5 million USD a unit.They are low altitude drones that are easily shout down but, giving how cheap they are and their good(not excelect) strike capabilities, countries that the US refused to sell the reaper to, love them. The Chinese have been flooding the market with low cost drones which middle east countries are buying. I don't pray Nigeria goes for the WING LOONG II drone because its performance rating is poor but is it dirt cheap compared to others? Yes. Its also not nice to call everyone with a contrary opinion names. The WING LONG II is in the same class as the Anka-S. All military vehicles in the same class have similar costs. The Anka-S is the most recent drone foreign military sale, that's what you would use to gauge. Until you know the total cost of the Saudi deals you cannot use to compare. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:08am On Apr 18, 2020 |
Nigerian Special Forces
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:06am On Apr 18, 2020 |
Mali Special Forces
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 6:08am On Apr 18, 2020*. Modified: 6:57am On Apr 18, 2020 |
komekn: Now some of you not all will even shocked at the procurement cost.
$1million per unit, that's $50 million for 50 Chinese Wing Loong II attack UAV now compare that to the total per unit procurement package cost of one turboprop A29, which is $50 million.
Now with your eyes � open which would you rather have. ❓ ❓ l find some of our decisions baffling and the allegations of zero will to end this cash cow war, begin to have some credence. Mr Komekn, please endeavour to conduct proper research before posting off comments. It's something you hardly do. According to your wild claims, 50 million dollars would be enough to purchase 50 armed UAVs. I mean, so why is Tunisia paying $240 million for 6 units of Anka-S drones from Turkey. I am using Turkey-Tunisia UCAV deal as it is the most recent foreign military sale of UAVs today. Anka-S is the serial production variant of Anka, shown here, which is a medium-altitude, long-endurance UAV. (Turkish Aerospace Industries) ANKARA, Turkey — Tunisia has awarded a contract to Turkish Aerospace Industries for the supply of six Anka-S drones, three ground control stations and an unspecified level of technology transfer.
Turkish procurement officials said TAI had been awaiting a deal with the government there for more than a year to sell its Anka-S drone. Industry sources said the contract is worth $240 million.https://www.defensenews.com/unmanned/2020/03/16/turkeys-tai-sells-six-anka-s-drones-to-tunisia/https://www.armyrecognition.com/march_2020_news_defense_global_security_army_industry/tunisia_to_purchase_turkish-made_anka-s_unmanned_aerial_vehicles.htmlhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/ahvalnews.com/turkey-drones/tunisia-purchase-six-anka-s-drones-turkeys-tai%3famp In essence Nigeria purchased 12 Super Tucano for 329 million dollars, 496 million dollars when you add infrastructure, training of 100 personnel, ammunition and ISR capabilities. https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Contracts/Contract/Article/1700404/https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.channelstv.com/2018/04/26/496m-aircraft-purchase-senators-call-for-buharis-impeachment/amp/Tunisia purchased 6 units of Anka-s from Turkey for 240 million dollars including GCS, training and ammunition. Yet this clown wants us to believe that 50 million dollars would get Nigeria 50 armed drones. Some of the guys who comment here dream up fantasies and pass it off as facts. Really amusing.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:45am On Apr 18, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:56pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:53pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nigerian Air Force Super Tucano touch down.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:44pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nigerian Air Force Tucano
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:02pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
rka2: For the old timers, do you remember this? Now here it is  What is this? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:36pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nigerian Air Force Super Tucano first flight.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:35pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
More PPEs produced in Nigeria.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:34pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:33pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nigerian Air Force reactivates second MI-35p helicopter.
3rd MI-35p already undergoing reactivation.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 1:09pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 1:08pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Chief of Army Staff and Nigerian soldiers about to begin combat operations.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:26pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
seankafor: them no born dem to show face.
They will now go back to been civilians again and come back when the heat is over and snap some pics and vids clips. And some folks here will be masturbating on it while singing their praises That's the most annoying part. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:25pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Toju200: Jeez look at that fleet... God help them I can see T-72, Vickers, IFV, Typhoon MRAPs etc etc. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:48am On Apr 17, 2020 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:51pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
Proforce PF2 APCs delivered to the Nigerian Police Force Abuja.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:49pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
Nigerian made Igirigi APC
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:45pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
Cape Verde special forces responding to a simulated attack with a soldier down.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:43pm On Apr 16, 2020*. Modified: 6:25pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
Toju200: they fly almost everytime pass my roof. Only twice an EC 135 I've seen Following them and once an MI35p that beast is massive you could literally feel the Down wash and vibration when it passes
The naval air wing in warri here too is cool also.. Portable,two big hangers, control tower.. You should try and stop always announcing your location in a public forum. I understand you're young, but for your safety please kindly desist from mentioning your location in an anonymous forum. Thanks. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:39pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
Guinea Special Forces Commando
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:35pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
Nigerian navy Helicopter Pilot
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:33pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
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