Toju200: either Serbia or Czech will run the upgrade for us Plus it's the Mi24 variants in PH that are set out for upgrade... Maybe paramount would do the upgrade
Serbia can't upgrade MI-24 helicopters, they bought MI-35m from Russia. Czech republic, that's also unlikely.
As it is, I don't see us upgrading those choppers for the foreseeable future.
Covert1: No doubt but the politics is irritating for a regional power like Nigeria, its a no go no go.
Except of course we redefine and recalibrate our domestic and foreign policy and Nigerians being extremely proud people I don't see that happening now or the future. I think a mixture of things works, an F-15 here an SU-35 there. This has worked well for Nigeria previously.
No, we are just hypothetically speaking. Politics determines military procurement. Nigeria would not be able to buy the SU-35. That's not going to happen, the Americans would make sure of that.
JOSCOFELIX: sir no western aircraft have being involved in this type of war with a well equipped country. Majority of this western weapons may produce the same result if involved in a conflict related to this
This is also a fair point, but Western aircrafts rarely depend on dumb bombs. This is an advantage to Western aircrafts.
lionel4power: With the way Russia is handling the war in Ukraine, and the loss of it's equipment is making Western weapons now looking like a preferred choice.
Asides the political constraints on western gears, I am now convinced that western weapons has superior and quality build compared to Russian/Soviet build.
Secondly, in today's air combat, BVR is now the mainstay of aerial warfare. It doesn't matter which aircraft.
Whoever sees and shoots first lives. Nevertheless, considering the technical aspects, range of BVR missile, AESA radar detection range, and radar cross section are important in deciding who comes out alive.
Likewise other support systems like EW suite, ECCM, AEW&C, and data links can act as a force multiplier.
So in this scenario, I believe the western jets ticks off all the box.
Rarely do aircraft now come into merge but if they ever do, I believe the SU-35 gets the advantage even against stealth primarily because of it's maneuverability and it's internal OLS-35 electro-optical infra-red search and track system which can comfortably track, target, and KILL stealth aircraft from at least 20 nautical miles.
With the war in Ukraine, despite some failings of the Russian military, they continue to advance and conquer territory.
while Ukraine has performed exceptionally well against the Russians, it heavily relies on Western military support; if the plug were pulled, it is likely that Ukraine would have been overrun.
The West continues to support Ukraine to the tune of 5-7 billion USD a month.
The West has better Air systems than Russia, but we've seen the Russians deploy many breakthrough systems in Ukraine.
I don't see how Russian fighter jets will compare against comparable Western Fighters, the gap is quite significant more so in the air to ground role.
Russia in many cases bombing targets with advanced SU-30sm fighter jets like the Nigerian Air Force using Alpha Jets. The lack of investment in laser guided systems, and similar JDAM kits by the Russians, a lack of investment in considerable number of UCAVs are showing glaringly.
Apart from the KA-52 and SU-25, I doubt Russian aircrafts can compare favourably to their American analogues.
Covert1: It's a good question. Aircrafts have roles. Bottom line is in today's modern air warfare, in the context of air-air combat, air superiority fighters are not up there programmed for first line of action Within-Visual-Range engagement (WVR) rather the F-15 or F-16 is programmed or suited for Beyond-Visual-Range (BVR) engagement. Simply put it is set up to detect at longer ranges and out of sight enemy aircrafts and light them up. That is why today the USAF incorporates 5th generation subsystems into the F-16s. I believe a portion of current US F-16 inventory have now AESA radars same which they have on the F-35s giving it the advantage to detect more targets at longer ranges and light them up. So in effect in the context of BVR combat its more about what you have on the aircraft than about the platform itself. The difference in platform in this instance is either a two engine fighter or single engine fighter, single seat or dual. In a practical warfare scenario an Tactical Air Combat Command would send aircrafts up for the roles they are best suited and for which they are built.
Now for the Su-35, generally the Flanker family aircrafts are built to be super maneuverable which gives it an edge in Within-Visual-Range (WVR) engagements. Here the Russian aircraft excels the F-15. Except for the USAF F-22 no other known fighter aircraft arguably can super maneuver as the Sukhoi aircrafts. However nations pour money into stealth and BVR technologies because in a peer warfare you might be dead in the air before you blink, it's more about who sees first shoots first. However the SU-35 an excellent non-stealthy aircraft has been used by the Russians to go up against the F-22 or F-35 both stealthy aircrafts and detected them at greater ranges so that would put it above the F-15 and certainly above the F-16. It is a deadly fighter. The Americans still don't have an answer for the SU-27 in the F-15 except for the stealthy F-35. Also of note is other factors that can play a role, aircraft availability which brings in maintenance, here western aircrafts have an edge as they are easier and cheaper to maintain and more reliable jet engines which produce more thrust.
I stress in the end pilot training, air combat hours, pilot agility and skill play a crucial role. A Saudi fighter pilot for instance can not be compared in proficiency to an Irainian fighter pilot. So having a shiny bird is one thing and having a nationalistic loyal skilled pilot is another factor in an adrenaline air combat.
Ground based systems or air borne systems like AWACS also can give an advantage. For everything developed there is a counter development. The Germans already excel in detection of stealth aircraft from ground based systems and reports have it the Iranians have once picked up the signature of USAF Lockhead-Martin Stealth F-35 aggressors with Russian supplied ground based radar.
I will choose an SU-35 as a sovereign nation with no inhibitions whatsoever in deployment and access to every code in its weapon suite to optimize employment of the fighter jet. JF-17s are now being optimized with AESA radars too.
Another excellent post.
However I will go for the latest iteration of the F-15 over the latest iteration of the SU-35.
Americans generally build better aircrafts, with better avionics than Russians.
Covert1: Nothing like "miraculously" in Air Combat in the context of putting in the good work, systems & platforms: air training hours, re-training, air combat hours, BVR, stealth, EW, ECM, doctrine, pilot skill, discipline, exposure with counter forces to pick up radar signatures, pay & incentives, motivation, logistics, satellites, AWACS, ground based systems and a host of other factors including allies play into inevitable or predictable outcomes other than that combat pilots attribute unseen forces as an "act of God" which can be bird strike or generally uncontrollable acts of nature.
Stormtrooper11: Okay, people I got these questions. Can someone please tell me what's on the Mi-28 rotor?! I'm thinking is a radar or something cos I found out that the AH-64 got something like that.
Also, do you think the Ugandan Mi-28 purchase is a better option than our AH-1Z vipers? Afterall, we ain't gonna be getting AGM-114 hellfires or any ATGMs but there is word they'll be having em in alotta numbers.
Thanks.
Yes, Ugandan MI-28N considerably provide more than the AH-1Z which Nigeria would be getting from the US.
The Ugandan Air Force would be able to use their MI-28N as they please without any restrictions, while for nearly 1 billion dollars, Nigeria might not even be able to use the AH-1Z Viper against Bandits.
While Nigeria gets laser guided Rockets (APKWS) which is an amazing system and works effectively against armoured vehicles including Tanks, it is not an ATGM. So that's also an edge for Uganda.
All things considered, Uganda got a better deal.
Notwithstanding, Nigeria also has MI-35M helicopters armed with ATAKA ATGMs, also we have the possibility of upgrading our MI-35ps to the latest MI-35m standards. Although a big "?" At this stage considering the war in Ukraine.
Nemesis4you: How about combining the technicals (some of them in a group) with
1. Drones for extended situation awareness in the vertical envelope and for tasks like mines/ied detection and mapping for opening safe routes etc , threat detection and generating real time ground situation picture for counter action etc etc
This is a capability we already see the Nigerian army employ. This and other types of Technical based ISR capabilities, see attached photo.
Nemesis4you: 2. Onboard sensors for extended situational awareness in the horizontal envelope as a backup or secondary measure in support of the drones or incase drones incapacitated etc
This would keep the technicals out of the harms way more or less while increasing their combat effectiveness
NTSA: Just watched a recent video of an IED hitting a technical in Lamu the thing was shredded into pieces
Technicals are really important for the modern day Army. No matter how advanced your armoured vehicle or Tank is, it would still be destroyed by the NLAW, Javelin and Kornet, at least 80% of the time.
Technicals are faster, provide better immediate situational awareness, allows soldiers to dismount quickly and are more easily repairable in the field, they consume less fuel/gas. These are the advantages they provide.
Disadvantages, 9 times out of 10, if ambushed all soldiers sitting in a technical will perish, IEDs will completely shred Technicals, they provide no armour.
What every responsible army should do is develop SOPs for the employment of Technicals in combat, also combine a healthy mix of armour (Tanks, IFVs, APCs and MRAP) with soft-skin vehicles.
Even you a driving the latest Tank, your vehicle can be destroyed just like the T-90M in Ukraine.
Exnavyboy62: First the "Ghost of Kyiv", now the "Goat of Kyiv". When Ukrainians are expecting good news of their troops securing victory, all they get is this nonsense. Well u can't expect less when your president is a comedian, everything is bound to be a joke