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davefurn:
Some people get courage sha, documentaries coming out, one by one.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIaHQET_M7I

This documentary is still not out. I'm looking forward to it.

I wish we could have documentaries like this from Nigeria.

Covert1:
Kabe1 I beg to disagree with the submission on the KA-52 as per the armour protection levels compared to say the MI-35M. You might want to check that out, I stand corrected but the MI-35M is known for rigours not so the KA-52.

On the issues of Attack Helicopters, I think tactics plays a huge role on their overall performance & survivability.

Shot with a MANPAD or a high caliber round, they will all fall from the sky in most cases.The only modern Attack Helicopter that have had more perennial issues that I know of is the Tiger Helicopter.

I believe Australia has completed dumped that helicopter following multiple, multiple issues with that platform.

Nigerian Air Force MI-17 Terminator combat support helicopter

Nemesis4you:
few months back a ind.. fellow was going gaga over Apache since it's now in service with iaf , he don't know me so expecting me to disco dance over it, finally out of irritation told him a single .303 bullet took out a Apache , he didn't bother me no longer

As a rule i never go for conclusive statements like good or bad etc for any equipment perse bec these are machines , they will be as good as the crew that fly them , the tactics that are brought into, the leverage provided by external support elements etc etc and last but not the least lady luck to ride on

Also lack of access to OEM info is there , lack of competitive trials or face offs in controlled environment is there to come to a judgement

Judgement based on performance in war for any weapon imo is not concrete , in another war with another country another crew etc etc a weapon might performance better or worse - realm of probability

If i have to give an opinion on ka52 or any heli i would judge it only on specifics ( qualities which makes it stand out ) which can be safely assumed based on verifiable open source info vis a vis

Eg

Co axial rotors are an advantage, better , safer and faster etc compartively to usual ones , so that can be counted as an advantage

Another is the level of protection , it's comparatively more so definitely a advantage

Ka 52 imo stands out specifically in these 2 factors but than its my (or anyone's) opinion and not scaroscant

Look at this way one could loose lot of equipment men etc and still win the war , i will take it gladly

What matters is the outcome vis a vis the instruments of war not the performance etc of the instruments , they don't matter in the big scheme , just means to an end

Rest is OEM gimmick

Excellent analysis again my boss.

I think it's difficult to determine in true sense if one equipment is better than another, as tactics play a huge role as you have correctly pointed out.


So let's move on, and talk about Main Battle Tanks and their place in modern combat.

Some "experts" opined that the place of the main battle tank was no longer viable in modern warfare, and the Tank is now a relic of the past. Especially with the proliferation of man portable anti-tank systems.

Do you consider this statement to be factual?

I personally do not.

What is the role of the Tank in today's battlefield, your opinion is required.

Nigeria's advanced Shipbuilding and apprentice School.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iajsd-vvmSQ

Nigerian Air Force A-29 Super Tucano

Serbian "Miloš" with 3x20mm

Delegates from the Nigerian Army and Navy visit the STM Defence booth at #EFES2022 in Turkey.

NTSA:
Kenyan president Uhuru Kenyatta arrives in Mogadishu for the inaguration ceremony of the newly elected somali president HSM

Well kitted SF soldiers there.

davefurn:
Don't forget Economic aspect

Correct.

Covert1:
Indeed, no doubt. There's no contestation.
The Russian pilots even brag publicly how they go under fire in heavily contested environment to successfully carry out combat missions.

I think it's something we've seen from the videos they have released.

Why do you think the MI-35M hasn't seen significant combat use in this conflict?

Other areas of discussion I will raise will cover;

- Artillery

- Tactics

- Effective use of Propaganda in warfare.

kabe1:
Is the KA-52 Alligator, the world's best Attack Helicopter?


Since the start of the Russian invasion, 3 months ago, 10 KA-52 Alligator Attack Helicopters have been destroyed in Ukraine. Considering the intensity of which they have been used in this conflict, including areas of employment and aircraft availability.

Following this initial inquiry, I believe most respondents here agree that the KA-52 is the world's best Attack Helicopter.


Nemesis4u, what is your analysis/take on this subject?

Using the realistic parameters of the Wars in Ukraine and Yemen as a base.

More Nigerian army MRAPs heading towards the NE.

Nigerian troops conducting Counter-Terrorism Operations

GreenandGold:
Look who's getting touchy here..... relax Henry, I won't show them your picture

This is hilarious

Do as you wish. Damn you're pathetic.

GreenandGold:
Please behave Henry, I still have your picture hey.

Keep clowning about.

When you don't have anything meaningful to contribute, you start throwing labels around.

What a dunce.

GreenandGold:
Kabe1 AKA Henry provoked the guy at Defense News Nigeria...

It seems you have slammed your head way too hard!!

GreenandGold:
So that means you're buying vehicles that we bought 42 years ago

South African education at it's finest.

GreenandGold:
That can shoot down all your JF-17 Thunders without even reloading

With what exactly?

Hopes and prayers.

GreenandGold:
You still buying MRAPs that we bought in 1980s... Congratulations...

1980, the last time the SANDF bought new vehicles, 42 years ago.

What a shame.

GreenandGold:
Oh please... Let's talk to people who have real militaries, countries like Senegal and Ghana.

Like the SANDF is one.

WTF is this clown on about?

GreenandGold:
Naija vs Naija. Let the guy with the best juju win....

You probably need the juju to revive Denel.

GreenandGold:
No bro, the proper answer is "we would love to buy those but the Naira is too weak"...

We are still maintaining the peace here

No wonder your Gripen fleet is camatose.

How's the Badger IFV programme again,

Or the Gupta's stole my defense industry.

GreenandGold:
Relax bro, we are here... Defense News Nigeria guy

Lawd have mercy, what are you blabbing on about?

Stormtrooper11:
Main reason I like the alligator is its ejection seats for the pilots.

It's an excellent Attack Helicopter.

Odunayaw:
Kuvuki professor says a go-kart can destroy all fighters in NAF but suddenly remembers distance when his pants at his ankle is pointed out to him

Imagine the ridiculousness.

GreenandGold:
Do you know that the Parabats could actually get a Starstreak close to your airbase in Makurdi via Cameroon? find a bush and just wait for the aircrafts to take off and then take them down.... it is in the exact reason why they are mounted on a low-profile vehicle.

But we're not there hey

Hypothetical nonsense.

No you can't. You can barely run your military as it stands.

Your frigate had to be pushed from Mozambique, the SANDF is in a rot. You clowns need to wake the f*** up!!

GreenandGold:


Defense News Nigeria's prayers are working against you bro.. you are losing it.. Simmon's Town and Lagos are some 4700km apart.. In fact, that missile would not even do a return trip from the edge of Lagos.

What do they teach you guys in South-African schools?

The possibility of a conflict between Nigeria and South-Africa is non-existent.

my comments is based on a hypothetical situation.

How do you think a Starstreak, with an effective range of 5km would hit a Nigerian aircraft flying from TAC in Makurdi, a distance of nealy 5,600km.

Jeezz!!!!! You South-Africans are exhausting.

jl115:
they aren't based at Simons Town

You don't have to take everything literally. dumbo!!!

GreenandGold:
Juju spells don't work in the military

Laser guided bombs, ATAKA ATGMs and AR-1 ATGMs from distances greater than 25km.

GreenandGold:
Take a time machine, fly your dodo-birds into 1990 Iraqi airspace and see if they would come back.

You are delusional, the Iraqi's got their asses handed to them by a much weaker Iran in the Iraq-Iran war.

Till today, Iran flies Iraqi SU-25s. Iran gifted Iraq, Iraqi SU-25s. Get a load of that.