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thegoodjoehunt:

It is the media making it look bad. If Osaze went behind their back to discuss with QPR, the West Brom board would have been talking abot purnishing him.

West Brom accepted QPR's offer at the deadline, hoping to get Hoilett as his replacement.

Osaze's agent must have called him to get down there to complete the deal, only for Hoilett to reject the deal.

It is not as bad as the media and jealous footballers are making it.

It's what they (media) do for a living; look for stories like this and turn it to trending news; he shouldn't have fed them in the first place.

Osaze drew attention to himself when he started tweeting and mistweeting days ago about problems with his club over a potential move.

The spotlight was already on him so it was really amusing when it ended this way.

It wouldn't have made much news if he didn't make so much noise about fighting his way out of WBA. I feel for the guy sha, must have been over ecstatic at the thought of completing his dream move to QPR.

Talk about desperation, See this papa bomboy dey behave like taata.

People are asking, "how is this a disgrace ?"

This is worse than a disgrace, double face palm plus feet sef.

He's in no man's land right now : not with QPR and Westbrom no even sure for am again (fans go roast am).

Its good to act sharp to pad your pockets but do it in style nah at least arrange secret meeting first (Ashiri Cole style) instead of gatecrashing a transfer party and having the door slammed in your face.

Even Diouf sef never commit this kain shameful drama before, Lol !!!!

R17 . . . counting down to the last minute. Lol !!

Yay !!! Wenger finally signed someone. #nofaithinSantos

Roland17: Osaze is sooooo dumb and stupid, he drove down to QPR without the permission of WBA, he was refused entry, he looked desperate trying to force a transfer away from WBA, QPR can't speak with him without permission from WBA, thus he would have to eat his vomit and head back to WBA.

If that boy no take time, he will end up like Mido.

mukina2: If you think Nigeria will win like this post.

LIKED !!! *with a pinch of salt*

Goal! !! Varane

1 -1

Pedrito misses

Giroudddddddddd

Giroud stretch leg nah

Choi, that was close from TW14


Is BR thinking defensive already?

7 billion naira to Mali, He should provide an additional 10 billion for security at home.

It will make no sense if the islamists are flushed out of Mali (partly thanks to our 7 billa) and they flock into 'insecure' Naija to camp out.

[quote author=Tayo-D]@Kay_Dee,
Your despereate attempt to justify your faulty logic is legendary. That these maniacs kill themselves at the first sign of deadly opposition should justify arming law-abiding civilinas, not disarming them. A well-armed civilian populace will always keep the fatalities to the minimum before the cops can get there. On the other hand, maniacs are known to attack places that are known to be unarmed, not armed. That tell you that even in their madness, they are able to discern a mission of no return from others.[/quote]There's no flaw in my logic. 99% of the time, they know they will end up dead and always want to do maximum damage before going down, not just at the "first sign of deadly force". Their suicidal tendencies transcends the fear being shot at. Columbine shooters had fun shooting at police for almost 1 hour b4 they put themselves out.

[quote author=Tayo-D]@Kay_Dee,
Again, another hypothetical that has no basis in reality. No single time have we experienced a case of friendly fire when civilians have come to defend themselves. If this was the case, it would be all over the news where the media's agenda is to eliminate civilian gun ownership. As for civilians successfully defending themselves, please take a look at this video.
http://www.break.com/index/71-year-old-man-shoots-cafe-robbers-2349328/[/quote]Lol !! kudos to the papa' but if you're talking about friendly fire, you can't compare this one-man show to the military or police battle field situation where friendly fire mostly happens, this is quite different from the scenario you painted where every civilian has a gun ready to shoot. If i was just walking into that cafe strapped and saw that man running towards me with a gun, I'll probably shoot at him without knowing what's going on.
Well I guess its a different opinion for everyone. But civilians firing shots in all directions in a dark theater or a mall looks like a circular firing squad to me. I wouldn't want to be anywhere close to the scene.

[quote author=Tayo-D]@Kay_Dee,
This statement tells me how seriously misinformed you are. Ryan proposed a federal budget. Policemen are paid either through the states, cities or counties. Besides, Ryan's budget didn't cut spending. What it did was slow the rate fo growth of spending. How does that lead to the cuting of essential services?[/quote]Yes, his federal budget plan cuts things like federal discretionary funds which helps states hire teachers and police. Without this help from the federal level, states can't hire and that's a cut in the workforce or prevention from growing the police force. Now, to station policemen in schools, you have to add to the already existing numbers right ?


[quote author=Tayo-D]@Kay_Dee,
I want to challenge you to prove this statement. Please point out any city where the Republicans have cut the police force or teachers. From the Federal to the State levels, our government practices what is called "Baseline Budgeting". Budgets don't get cut, Republicans only try (mostly unsuccessfully) to reduce the rate of its growth. The cutting of any budget meant for the police force or public safety only reflects that the city in question values other things higher than public safety. Please understand what is really going on rather than parroting the talking points of the Left.[/quote]Policemen were laid off in New Jersey in 2010
Detroit, Michigan - half the police force laid off mid last year causing a spike in crime rate.
They've been trying in Ohio, I don't know if they eventually did.


Did Chris Christie not cut or attempt to cut teachers pay in NJ ? Did they not lay off teachers in Pennsylvania recently ?

montelik: Seems you are making assumption without checking the actual facts. You can't buy a full auto M4 or any full automatic rifles as civilian, its virtually impossible. Gun manufacturers are allowed to make them for the public, and gun dealers are barred from selling or importing them. Its against the law and has been for decades, you would be breaking several laws to get one. Unless you buy old ones manufactured before laws regulating the production were passed and you are a licensed collector (for which you will jump through insane hoops).

I didn't just assume, there 've been arguments about it.
Yeah, the legality of it is arguable, the reason I put it in brackets. I think it's illegal too but people still insist they are legally available to civilians for a fee and a special permit.

montelik: Besides almost all guns today are semi-automatic not just AR-15s, which make them all military style by your analysis, am I right?

Yes, they will pass when coupled with 30/40 . . . . amour piercing rounds.

Lol !! This crazy chicken is back.

The only thing I enjoy about seeing Dr. Taitz on TV is watching her get kicked off every show.

Our justice system is really fu.rked up.

Roland17: 4 DAYS TO GO...YET NO SIGNINGS...

Spuds kiss the dust at Elland Road...

Guy relax your mind and start looking forward to the next window.

With this your countdown, you will wake up on Friday morning and start crying when you read the transcript of Wenger's press conference.

"We searched for quality players and found none"
"'Abu Dhabi' is fully recovered and finally back" - LANS
"Arteta is not too far away"
"Theo and Giroud are scoring goals at the moment, we don't need anyone else"
"We signed a very good physio to keep the lads injury-free"
"We have the best defensive record in the league - our defenders are the best"
"Our scouts have identified transfer targets for the summer transfer window"
"I believe in this current team"

I won't be disappointed if he doesn't sign anyone; I'll be surprised if he does.

[quote author=Tayo-D]@KayDee,
That is not true. Reports show that many of these psychos put a gun to their own heads as soon as they get wing of an armed person around. They kill themselves ones they hear the Police siren or another shot aimed at them. What gets them to stop is not more defenseless people, but armed ones.[/quote]It still remains, they are suicidal and not scared to die. In those cases where they turned the gun on themselves, they always knew law enforcement was going to show up, yet they tried to kill as many as they could b4 blowing their own brains out. If they are determined to kill like they always are, they will go for it regardless of if everyone in the mall or theatre is armed. They'll just try and kill as many as possible b4 someone takes them out.

[quote author=Tayo-D]@KayDee,
There is no proof that this has ever happened even with the number of guns around. We have more reports of friendly fire amongst the military and Police than in the civilian populace.[/quote]There is no proof now because they've never been put in a war-like situation where everyone is strapped and has a reason to want to shoot .
More reports of friendly fire amongst trained military and police ? ; imagine what it would be amongst semi-skilled civilians, even worse.

[quote author=Tayo-D]@KayDee,
Some teachers have begun training with a view to being armed in school. Some States have started to seriously consider that option. The point is that the NRA is making the sensible proposal that you and I agree with. The opposition to this is coming from the Dems, not Reps. Stop propagating the lies that Republicans target Police funding. Instead, take a look at the Democrats. When we call for budget cuts, instead of looking at non-essential services, the Dems are first to cut the Police and Firemen and blame someone else for it. I see you have fallen for those lies.

There are already a lot of laws right now. The problems is that they are not upholding those laws. It's like saying we need more laws against illegal immigration. That is not the case, implement current laws and we won't have issues with illegal immigration.[/quote]How is it a lie ? It's part of the Ryan budget, Romney openly spoke against teachers, fire fighters and Policemen in his attacks on 'big government'.

Republicans scream - Let's arm teachers & guards and put police in schools and they go behind and cut police funding, eventually leading to less available policemen. - ain't that hypocritical ?

montelik: Seems you do. There is full automatic and sub automatic (which going by your military style point is what I believe you are referring to as automatic) and semi-automatic which could mean anything from some revolvers, glocks to a rifle (e.g bushmaster).

I did not mention automatic or sub-machine (even though civilians can still get permits for full-auto M4s all in the name of 2nd amendment); I said "same kind of guns used by military men and other trained personnel" ; If you have semi-auto AR-15s and AP ammo,that puts you in combat mode IMO. That's what my "military-style" point was all about.

"South Africa should stop meddling in Nigeria's internal politics" ? ?
No be the guy carry him 2 K-legs enter their country ?
I don't remember SA coming to whisk him away from the comfort of his Nigerian home.

Time for some naija girls to invade Huangluo with their scissors.

montelik: Personally I am in favor slightly tougher gun laws (not gun control) but claims like this is what causes problems. AR-15s, Bushmasters e.t.c are not the same kind of guns the military use (mostly because they are not automatic or sub-automatic, neither are they capable of accepting the caliber of bullets used by the military). It is a little lazy and misinformed to say that simply because they have some cosmetic features (pistol grip, color e.t.c) as military guns that they are the same.

They are military-style weapons, they may not be exactly what the military peeps use but they have the same devastating effects and functions, they are designed to kill a lot of people fast.

What do civilians need those for ?

What do civilians need armour piercing rounds for ? To pierce what ? on the streets or in the bush ?

AR-15 and Bushmasters not automatic or semi-auto ? really ? ? ?
Maybe I totally misunderstand the meaning of "automatic".

[quote author=Tayo-D]I can assure you that no person will go to the theater to shoot anyone if there is a chance that half the people would have be carrying Bushmasters and the other half would have their handguns. The reason the guy went to the theatre is because he knew they were defenseless.[/quote]My personal opinion : I don't think psycho killers care a lot about being shot at, they are suicidal and are not scared to die, so knowing that other people in the theater have guns on them won't be a deterrent. Their mission then becomes, kill as many as possible before you get killed. *go down blazing*.

If everyone has to carry a gun, how do we tell the good guys from the bad guy. If it degenerates into a free-for-all, good guys will be shot by other good guys. That's why we have uniformed policemen, that way you can differentiate.

[quote author=Tayo-D]That is not true. For your information, the NRA made this same proposal that was outrightly rejected by the Democrats. This was why the NRA started putting out adverts saying while Obama thinks its a good idea to protect his kids with trained armed men, he doesn't think our children deserve the same sort of protection. Some Republican controlled areas including Arizona have begun to put trained armed men in schools for the kids' protection.

As you can see, it is really the Republicans who are being reasonable here. No one in their right mind would think disarming law abiding citizens is the best way to protect them from the criminals and the insane in our midst. The current proposals being made by these Dems would restrain the law-abiding citizens and limit their abilities to defend themselves.[/quote]NRA initially proposed arming teachers which a lot of people opposed, then they changed it to 'armed guards'. I don't remember the democrats standing in the way of putting armed policemen or guards in schools. We all know what side targets police funding for budget cuts.

No one is asking for law-abiding citizens to be totally disarmed, it should just be controlled with tougher laws and restrictions. Some weapons have no business being in the hands of untrained civilians. Protect yourself when you're in your home (you don't need a military-style rifle for that) and when you're outdoors, you have the police. If they think their policemen are not good enough they should should try the NPF.

[quote author=Kay-Dee]. . . . and Theo scores.[/quote]. . . the winning goal.

2 good goals from Giroud.

Diabolic . . . hmmmmm, no comment.

Rosicky, always has a sense of urgency when it comes to attacking unlike Diabolic who by the way, made a sweet pass assist for the 2nd goal.

Podolski, another assist and a sublime free-kick that was only kept out by the cross-bar. *what a dud* , lol !!!

Fine play overall except for the shaky defence and Santos' side of the field.

. . . . and Theo scores.

offside !! phew. I for slap Santos from my TV now.

[quote author=Tayo-D]@Pres,
What's your definition of assault? What difference does it make to the dead whether they were shot with a machine gun, hand gun or shakabula?[/quote]It's called, damage limitation. Bushmaster = 6 bullets/sec ; shotgun = coc.ckk and fire
A bushmaster can wipe out an entire theater in less than a minute; I'll survive it if the psycho-killer comes with a shotgun.

[quote author=Tayo-D]The point is why should his children be protected by gun-totting soldier-ants and you and my kids don't deserve same kind of protection? I am not stupid enough to think that wishing away evil in the world will actually make it go away. Apparently, so does Obama believe, hence the guns that protect his kids and himself.[/quote]Those kids are not protected by semi-trained to untrained civilians.
If civilians want to carry the same kind of guns that military men and other trained personnel use, then they should be subject to the same treatment, training, frequent mental check-ups, etc. But will they agree? I guess not.

The democrats support putting trained policemen in schools. I'll be more comfy with that than having a strapped kid sitting next to me.

Lol !!! Ask them why they hate him this much and you won't get a single meaningful answer.

Cowards like these remind me of the trigger-happy ped0phil3, T. Nugent who loves guns so much but artfully dodged having to go to war in Vietnam.

Feed me more: Could N. Korea develop something that would be able to hit the shores of the U.S? I'm sure they could, just like Iran could probably lob something into Israel....Would they ever do it? Nope, i think not, because it would be their own suicide as a nation and people....these rogue nations are just trying to defend themselves and way of life from being globalized....They dont want Americans in their affairs.

They could develop but I doubt it will get there (if they ever try); The US got ABMs.

The so-called Podudski should be MOTM.

mukina2: hazard is a disgrace i just saw what he did

Na wetin shekpe do him brain.

You should have seen the poor ball boy lying on the ground with an anguished face.

ochukoccna: POTTS HAS REGAINED CONSCIOUSNESS
Good one

Good news !!!

I don dey pity Westham sef. Ref end this game NOW.

Chelsea officially akpako'ed by Swansea. Game Over.