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Business / Re: CBN, First Bank On Collision Course Over Removal Of MD/CEO by kayuseful: 9:46am On Apr 29, 2021
Why does this govt keep interfering with private businesses affairs fgs
Politics / Re: Insecurity: Osun To Construct Perimeter Fence In Public Schools by kayuseful: 9:38am On Apr 29, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
Have you been to schools under Ese Odo and ilaje LG? I can start giving you names of schools that are not fenced in that 2 LG. Except from Lagos state, the rest of the south western states have some schools that are not fenced.
Those are villages na
They live a communal life
Villages generally are like that, not peculiar to SW
Religion / Re: New Covenant Vrs The Old Covenant by kayuseful: 9:35am On Apr 29, 2021
Rightly said

To add that
1. "new" covenant is not actually new in the sense of nascent, freshly made. It's only a renewal, or better put, a restatement, of the covenant earlier preached to Abraham, Noah, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph etc

2. The new covenant actually came before the old. The old covenant was officially launched in Exodus, while the new covenant was already in Genesis

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Politics / Re: Insecurity: Osun To Construct Perimeter Fence In Public Schools by kayuseful: 9:07am On Apr 29, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
Where did you school?
Ondo state
Politics / Re: Insecurity: Osun To Construct Perimeter Fence In Public Schools by kayuseful: 9:06am On Apr 29, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
This is how it is in most south western states, except Lagos State.
Exempt Ondo state too
Politics / Re: Insecurity: Osun To Construct Perimeter Fence In Public Schools by kayuseful: 6:40pm On Apr 28, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
This is how it is in most south western states, except Lagos State.
I don't remember any of the public schools I attended being unfenced. It's really weird to me

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Politics / Re: Insecurity: Osun To Construct Perimeter Fence In Public Schools by kayuseful: 4:47pm On Apr 28, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
A lot of public schools outside oshogbo do not have a perimeter fence, so this is a welcome development for the people of Osun state.

Really.
Politics / Re: Remi Tinubu Can Never Be First Lady Of Nigeria - Nigerians Tackle Tinubu's Wife by kayuseful: 8:48am On Apr 28, 2021
grin
Back to back
Politics / Re: Nigerian Politicians Own 800 Properties Worth $400m In London, Dubai – Chatham H by kayuseful: 8:47am On Apr 28, 2021
Mention names na
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Employer Demanding Security Fee From Me On Freelancer by kayuseful: 12:29pm On Apr 23, 2021
Report him

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Sports / Re: EPL: Kelechi Iheanacho to join Chelsea by kayuseful: 11:33am On Apr 23, 2021
fuckingAyaya:
mind games so he will be distracted in the Fa cup final
Lol.. See perspective

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Travel / Re: Cow Imported From US By Ekiti Government Breaks Loose At Lagos Airport by kayuseful: 7:32pm On Apr 22, 2021
Philipponzaghi:
Ekiti State Government have been importing cows for the Ikun Diary farm since 2020 or so.

Below is the Twitter timeline of imports from Akin.

The cows are of different breeds from the Fulani cows.
Religion / Re: Why Do Christians Sin And Think It's Normal by kayuseful: 7:26pm On Apr 22, 2021
Why Do Christians Sin And Think It's Normal

But for the "think it's normal part" (I mean, when they are without remorse), there is no flesh on earth above errors, so asking why Christians sin is like asking God's children still eat, drink, go to toilet, fall sick and even die.

Psa 130:3-4 KJV 3 If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand? 4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.

Committing a sin isn't the issue, the attitude towards it and after it should be the concern
Celebrities / Re: EFCC Arrests Instagram Comedian Pankeeroy (Photo) by kayuseful: 7:14pm On Apr 22, 2021
Bad for his career
Politics / Re: Pantami: Kallamu Musa Ali Dikwa Says "They Are After Me" by kayuseful: 5:48pm On Apr 22, 2021
Northern Christians, they are so fearless

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Crime / Re: NDLEA Nabs Undergraduate "Selling Drugged Cookies" To School Children by kayuseful: 1:49pm On Apr 20, 2021
How inhumane
Drugging children
Haba angry
Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 11:56am On Apr 20, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Who told you that lie?undecided
That book is written for you in human language, to be read and comprehended in much the same way you would any other written out there written by man, for man. You do not start reading a book beginning from the last page... you start from the first page so you can understand what is at the end of the book.

grin Normally true, but there are technicalities that won't make your hermeneutics work if you interpret bible that way.
I mean, read a book from first page, but interpretation-wise, it's sort of scattered.
For instance, the interpretation of Genesis 1 is found in bits all over the bible, esp in the NT
You will have to get to Revelations before you know the serpent you read in Genesis 3 is satan.
You will get to Matthew to know why the Divorce Law in Deuteronomy was so allowed.
You'll think sabbath is saturday if you don't wait to get to the NT.
This is why I'm saying the NT is the known and clear, use them to understand the OT.
Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 11:21am On Apr 20, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
I am afraid you are wrong! undecided
Believing suggests mental acceptance/acknowledgment, but we know beginning from the time of Adam, that what God wants is not a simple mental acknowledgment of His person but complete trust and obedience.
No. Believing is not mental assent.
Believing has a response.
Noah believed and built an ark. All who believed his words joined him in the ark. That is faith.
Now are all who entered the ark sinless? NO!
Were they saved because they were flawless? NO! But just becaus they believed Noah's message of God!


Just like the israelites by faith kept the passover, and were saved from the destroyer, not because they were sinless people and egyptians were sinful, but because they believed Moses.


Now, God does not lie, right? So where He declares that Abraham obeyed Him, God in fact means Abraham obeyed Him.

Obeyed Him in what?
The obedience here is definitive, not infinitive.
Obviously Abraham lied, falsified immigration documents to japa; succumbed to marrying a second wife, gave up on God's promise, Sarah his wife lied, Angels confronted her and she denied before the angels of God. And the angels of God who wanted to go destroy Sodom and Gommorrha for "sins" ignored her own sin.
So when God says Abraham "obeyed", you should ask, "obeyed in what?"

I have showed you how Abraham being justified was not because he kept some commandments, but for faith.
God doesn't accept you because of how "good" you have been. Quit being a Pharisee
Rom 3:20CEV God doesn't accept people simply because they obey the Law. No, indeed! All the Law does is to point out our sin
Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 9:41pm On Apr 12, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Recall that the 10 commandments/laws that you and I know of today came in almost 500 years after Abraham's death, so it is meaningless to try to judge him by laws that God, the one who defines sin to begin with, never gave to Abraham. What we do know, from God's own mouth though is that Abraham obeyed the commands, rule and statutes that God did give Him, and so God declared him, Abraham, righteous, as a result. Abraham was not a "special" case, but instead, a man who obeyed God's commandments, just like the many other righteous men before him, and those of today are required to - God's standard as far as righteousness is concerned remains the same.undecided
Again, Jacob existed about over 400 years before the 10 commandments/laws which you think to judge him by, so, more meaninglessness. God is the one who gives the law and He decides for His own, what sin is - Sin is disobedience of God's commandments, statutes, and rules. Just as it is meaningless, even today, to try to judge a Jew(Old Covenant) by the Christian standard of sin(New Covenant), it is equally meaningless to attempt to judge those who lived before the Law of Moses by the Law of Moses. undecided

So By what law were the people of Sodom and Gomorrah judged?
The people in the time of Noah, what commandments did they disobey?
Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 9:33pm On Apr 12, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Listen to what God Himself said of Abraham...
I will do this because your father Abraham obeyed my words and did what I said. He obeyed my commands, my laws, and my rules.

Whenever you see the word like this in the OT "obeyed my words", it refers to believing. Abraham believed and it was counted as doing right for him. It's by faith, not actually his works. The just shall live by faith
Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 9:21pm On Apr 12, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Listen to what God Himself said of Abraham...
You don't read the Bible that way my brother.
One basic rule is you use the known to interpret the unknown.
You don't use the OT to explain the NT.
NT was written to explain the obscurities of the OT.
You don't use a book with lots of parables, shadows, and dark speeches to interpret clearly explained language.
Counter what I said with a verse from the epistle. There's a reason why we are New Testament saints and the epistles were addressed to us
Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 9:30am On Apr 12, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Unmerited Favour from God who is not a God of favouritism? undecided

The grace of God in Jesus Christ refers instead to the eternal life granted to those who are saved from the condemnation of sin(Death). Those who receive this eternal life(grace) then have the option of spending it in either of the two destinations within the Kingdom . undecided

Those you say where deemed righteous from the time of Old were in fact granted eternal life(grace) because of their obedience of God's commandments, statues and rules. Abraham, for example, was declared righteous by God, in Genesis 26 vs 1-5 , because he, Abraham, trusted and obeyed God's commands, rules and statutes, same as the other examples of righteous men in the Bible... even Jesus Christ trusted and obeyed God and was seen as righteous by His followers as a result. undecided

There is nothing like "unmerited" favour where God is concerned since God does not consider us in terms of whether we merit or deserve what He offers us. He is our creator and it would be benefit a faithful God to think in such a manner towards His creation, don't you think? It is humans who think in that fashion... God however is far above that mentality. undecided

Hear Bible right away

Rom 4:2-9 EasyEnglish 2 God did not accept Abraham because Abraham had done good things. If God had done that, then Abraham would have been able to say great things about himself. He would have been able to say how good he himself was. But Abraham had no reason to say that to God. 3 Remember what the Old Testament says. It says: ‘Abraham believed God and, as a result, God accepted Abraham as right with himself.’ 4 When a person works to get money, he ought to receive his money. Nobody thinks that the money is a gift. It is what that person ought to receive as a result of his work. 5 But nobody can do any work that will make himself right with God. Instead, he must believe God, who accepts bad people as right with himself. And because a person believes God, then God will accept that person as right. 6 David also wrote about the same thing. He described how happy God can cause people to be. God will accept people as right with himself even when they have not done good things. 7 David says: ‘Those people that God has forgiven are really happy. They have not always obeyed God, but he has forgiven them. God has taken away the wrong things that those people have done. 8 A person is really happy when the Lord accepts him. Because the Lord will not continue to remember the wrong things that the person has done. 9 All people can be really happy like this, whether they are Jews or not. God told only the Jews to circumcise each other. He did not tell the people who are not Jews to circumcise each other. But God will accept any person. God accepted Abraham as right with him because Abraham believed God. That is what we have been saying.
Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 9:25am On Apr 12, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Unmerited Favour from God who is not a God of favouritism? undecided

The grace of God in Jesus Christ refers instead to the eternal life granted to those who are saved from the condemnation of sin(Death). Those who receive this eternal life(grace) then have the option of spending it in either of the two destinations within the Kingdom . undecided

Those you say where deemed righteous from the time of Old were in fact granted eternal life(grace) because of their obedience of God's commandments, statues and rules. Abraham, for example, was declared righteous by God, in Genesis 26 vs 1-5 , because he, Abraham, trusted and obeyed God's commands, rules and statutes, same as the other examples of righteous men in the Bible... even Jesus Christ trusted and obeyed God and was seen as righteous by His followers as a result. undecided

There is nothing like "unmerited" favour where God is concerned since God does not consider us in terms of whether we merit or deserve what He offers us. He is our creator and it would be benefit a faithful God to think in such a manner towards His creation, don't you think? It is humans who think in that fashion... God however is far above that mentality. undecided


Did I hear you say Abraham was declared righteous because he obeyed all God's commands?
Abraham that lied about his wife TWICE, and not on one occasion did we see him go back to God to say sorry. Yet God defended him amidst the lies.
Abraham that doubted God's promise that he will have a child.
Sarah, his wife, lied before God, even when God confronted her, yet God didn't destroy her or withdraw the promise she will have a child.

Time and time again, Abraham showed weaknesses, and sin, and Bible didn't hide it, just so we know his righteousness was by faith, not by what he did or did not do.

Let's not even open Jacob's chapter. Not many could try half of the atrocities Jacob committed in his time and go scotfree. In fact, it's like after each sin, God will appear to Jacob to remind him of His ever presence, and not once did God ever make mention of their sins to them

If that's not unmerited grace or "favouritism", I wonder what else is. grin

But it's not favouritism because we know if you believe in Jesus like them, you will equally get same measure of God's support like they did
Health / Re: Public Laboratories Redirect Suspected COVID-19 Patients To Private Labs by kayuseful: 3:32pm On Apr 09, 2021
Nothing surprising here

You have to really prove you're likely to be positive before they conduct a test on you.
This is being done because of the fairly high cost of the test here.

Not absolving the govt though
Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 2:29pm On Apr 05, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Maybe you should explain to me why God said the following to Cain if you don't have do right or be righteous to access it?

If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? Genesis 4:7 (KJV)

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What was Cain expected to do that he didn't do but Cain did?

Heb 11:4 KJV By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

Faith..

Abel offered blood of firstlings in belief of the coming "seed of the woman shall bruise the head of the serpent", that is, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus.

Cain brought of the fruit of the cursed ground demonstrating he doesn't even believe anything that happened in chapter 3, yet expected God's endorsement (religion)


Abel already believed and had been righteous before he offered anything.
Cain already identified with the devil in unbelief.
Their offerings only came to make it glaring to all

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Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 1:16pm On Apr 05, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
It's always been available to all humans ever since the fall of man in the beginning. It was available to both Cain and Abel, but it was only Abel that was able to partake of it because of he walked in righteousness. Remember what God said to Cain, that if he had done well would he not be accepted?

So that's all Cain needed to do to access it as Abel had done, but he refused hence he never did.

It was also available to all during the days of Noah, but only Noah did what was required to access it. Remember what you said that he was preaching and no one refused to hear him? If they had heard him and turned away from their wicked ways what do you think would have happened?

They didn't give us the benefit to know what would have happened, but the people of Nineveh did. That was an instance that gave us an opportunity to see how that was all God required from man to be able to access His grace, thanks to the exemplary leadership of their king. He didn't even know if it was going to work and change God's mind since God had already declared their destruction, but he said they should just go ahead regardless, and that proved to be a game changer.

It's important to stress that these weren't God's own people Israel, but people regarded as the heathen, yet them turning away from their evil ways still made them to able to access God's grace.

God's grace has always been there since the fall of man, because after them no man didn't deserved or was worthy of His consideration after that, not even the righteous! But only the righteous was able to access it because that was what God required of men.

It was after the coming of Jesus that God's grace was upgraded to eternal life, so now it wasn't just an earthly reward for obeying God and walking in righteousness, but there was now an eternal reward attached to it.

So that's the only difference, but the requirement is still the same.

God bless.

Grace is UNMERITED FAVOUR
if you have to be righteous to "access" it, then that can't be Grace, because you already introduced some merit.

Also, the examples you mentioned were called righteous only after they receive God's grace. Even their lives showed how imperfect they were. Righteousness was only credited to them as an unmerited favour, not that they were more moral than others

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Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 7:18pm On Apr 03, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
You probably the one mixing things up here, because there's no place I said God was withholding His grace from the wicked, but that His grace is sufficient for the righteous and the sinner that repents. So it's available to all but only the righteous and sinners who repent that can benefit from it as all those instances show.

You obviously aren't aware that the righteous also need the grace of God. They need it not because they're sinners themselves, but the sins of Adam which they inherited, which makes them undeserving of God's approval or consideration.

That's why Noah, despite being righteous in God's opinion still found grace in God's sight!

Jesus didn't come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance because the righteous had no need for repentance but the sinners did!

It's important not to misinterpret that to mean that He came for the sinners as many do, but that He came to call the sinners to repentance, because it's important they came to repentance, or they wouldn't be able to benefit of the Grace of God as the righteous and those sinners who repent did.

That's also the essence of this post. To call the sinners to repentance so that they would be able to benefit from God's grace because otherwise they won't.

Thanks and God bless.
So at what point did God make this grace available to sinners,
After they have repented or before?
Sports / Re: Premier League: Semi Ajayi Helps West Brom End Chelsea’s 3-Month Unbeaten Run by kayuseful: 4:10pm On Apr 03, 2021
Up Chelsea grin

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Religion / Re: God's Grace Is Not Sufficient For The Wicked But For The Righteous... by kayuseful: 4:05pm On Apr 03, 2021
Kudos for the article

You seem to mix some things up

It's not God vengefully withholding His grace from the wicked,
It's actually the Wicked turning down God's offer of Grace

For example, Noah begged the people of his days to join him in the ark, but they mocked.

Who else needs grace but the wicked. If you're already righteous, why do you need some help in form of grace.

The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared unto ALL.
I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.
Politics / Re: Analysts Expose Boko Haram’s Doctored Video On NAF Jet Crash by kayuseful: 3:56pm On Apr 03, 2021
OK.
Just end terrorism in our land and secure the country

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