₦airaland Forum

This is a very educative thread where we all can learn and I would appeal to all to reduce the insults , back to the topic, while I understand you , I do not totally believe investing in human capacity through loans would better suit us long term against infrastructure, we can do both with percentage of priority, the loan system and trusting economic growth into the hands of corrupt capitalist can be severe for us as well, I will give examples

When Dangote was given license for refinery, loads were given licenses too, infact many of those given license were incorporated into the subsidy scheme to enable them raise profits and capital towards their huge venture during Jonathan, that was the begining of major corruption with the subsidy as they just abandoned the idea of refinery and instead focused of given ridiculous numbers for the fuel they imported and were taking billions in subsidy payments. Another is the anchor borrowers scheme for rice farmers, the plan was for them too build rice mills within a time frame after being given license to import rice, none of them that collected govt loans and license to import rice built any mill while some just started and left it at that. How many were built ? When the banks pursued Ben -Murray Bruce over its billions of loan he owed to setup all his cinemas, did he scream witch-hunt and cry that it was cause he was opposition, didn't he brag that he had created thousands of jobs and all would be lost if amcon took over his business ?, didn't the same people criticized the govt of wanting to make thousands loose their jobs ? Same with licensing for sugar , cement etc. Pausing infrastructural developments to fund loans to different investors in the belief that they would create jobs thereby increasing human capacity and lessen unemployment would not really achieve 25% of its aim but rather build overnight billionaires.

nairalanda1:
Hmm

It was obvious that Buhari did not get fuel subsides....but obviously once he got into office, he did understand.

The problem with the article is that the folks who wrote it, do not understand how a subsidy works....and just wrote it for the shock value.

1. Here is how subsidy costs rose to N8 trillion and kept rising.

In 2015, few months after Buhari took office...landing cost of fuel was N132, price at pump N87

In 2022 September, fuel price was N170, landing cost was....N502 .

Do the math, and you will get why we spent increasing amounts on subsidy. ESPECIALLY if you consider that fuel consumption goes up year in ,and year out. (And then there is the mass smuggling of fuel to other African countries because Nigerian fuel is much cheaper than other fuel in all our neighbours).

Plus, if we kept fuel at N87, the amount we would have spent on subsidy by now would have been N20 trillion, if not far more.

2. One of the solutions offered was that we should have released forex to 'let everyone import'. At that rate, the subsidy costs would have risen to N20 trillion. Remember the games importers were playing before NNPC became the sole importer? And still play now.



The solutuon should have been SIMPLE.....Fuel subsidy SHOULD have gone since 2012,(Ideally fuel subsidy should have gone since 1993, when we got the earliest warnings. But Nigerians, led by Buhari and co, said NO because all they saw was price increases, and not the long term benefits.

The fact is, if subsidy had been totally removed in 2012, that N8 trillion would have been SAVED.

Our addiction to low fuel prices caused this, people. We all better accept this harsh truth. If you implement price controls, corruption and stealing results. (Former communist countries know that...price controls led to bad products, corruption, stealing and scarcity. In 1985, there were queues in Moscow for bread. Today, under the capitalism of Putin, you can buy any bread you want).Buhari too loves low oil prices. And like most Nigerians, he thinks that they can be sustained forever. They can't.

That is why we do not have good refineries. Because price controls prevent NNPC from making a profit. Making NNPC the sole importer also basically restricted NNPC from making a profit, and forced it to use whatever monies it did make in subsidising fuel.

Reading that report, I knew it was just sensationalism, claiming subsidy shouldn't have been more than 2 trillion against 8 trillion is just not true, I mean a simple analysis of the increase in dollar/forex value over the last 5-6years should make anyone educated know that subsidy prices would double or even triple . If we want to blame Buhari, blame him for not having the will to remove it totally , blame him for not knowing anything about it and saying gibberish before he got on the seat and realized what president Jonathan was battling was child's play compared to what he would have to handle, all he needed to do was come out, hold his up that he got it wrong when he criticized Jonathan and explain why and how we got here and the lasting solution which was totally removing it. Having said that it might also have been difficult to remove, this country went through recession twice and pandemic in the last 8years total removal of the subsidy would have made people tear down his government or do something worse than what is going on now, the same people insulting him today would have probably be rioting, or even turned this to a huge civil unrest in a worse case scenario. Like you said giving the subsidy Forex to importers/marketers would have been much more worse, we all saw that with Jonathan and his fuel importers/marketers. Finally educated and knowledgeable folks would always know that subsidy is a loose/loose situation for any government and its people, it's just a case of choose the kind of loss you prefer (more like chose your poison) whether you want a mild one or a catastrophic one, and the truth is the mild one is just delaying the catastrophic one in the future and it's only matter of time.

I have always said the next government would feel the blow and impact of subsidy removal from the people, While Tinubu divides the people already interms of acceptance, I am afraid, subsidy removal would make his acceptance much worse if not the most derided president ever even much more derided than Buhari. We shall see.

misano:
Lagos agberos nah number 1. Other regions have agberos but non like Lagos own. It's not even like that in other SW states so don't attach it to other regions.

Only 3-4 of your posts says alot about you and your school of thought, so no point to drag anything further, like I said there are some people oblivious to criminals and agbero in their state but only see Lagos due to their tribal bias, you just represent a perfect example

One of the funny things I would forever continue to laugh about is how many of these posters from the south east feel so delighted attributing politicians in Lagos to criminals and agbero, it is the most laughable because it is how conviniently chose to ignore criminals and agbero relationship with politicians in their states, I mean go to Aba, go to Onitsha, go to even port Harcourt and see the same criminal activities they delight to use in insulting Lagos stare you in your face. I don't know who the agberos in South eastern states remit their money to if not the state and local governments or is it just for their pockets ?, and to top it don't start us with other activities of Ipob and it's criminal and murderous in the last 7years that they've suddenly forgotten, the bitterness and pain is unbearable to some that even a movie review has the poster above ranting and moaning about Lagos politicians, just concluded elections and criminals. At the end of the day you cannot tell someone in pains not to cry.

Geezeem:
Yemi had content
He was talked about
He was visible
He was heard
.... He just didn't have balls of steel to pull off his strategy

Miracle was going to give him all the relevant dramas to keep him going...but his fans misunderstood the whole thing

Blue would have brought out another side of Yemi that could have been fun to watch... he was playful, flirty and generally bubbly around her

I could understand why his fans wanted either him with her or go solo

This summation is perfect, fans love you cos of the interesting storyline you're giving and yearn for more, so fans want to see what will be more intriguing and interesting about your actions after the live shows going into every new week, and Yemi was doing that from the first 2-3weeks and the supporting cast was Blue and Khosi, especially Blue cos she was as intriguing like Yemi, if he could just have pushed that narrative for another 2 weeks leaving Blue, Khosi and the fans guessing while still showing affections to both girls then handle his decision to leave one better than the way he handled Blue, things probably might have been different.

Also after dumping blue then self, if after Khosi was exposed by Ebuka, he handled himself properly, that would have also redeemed his game, but like you said he just didn't have the confidence and boldness to see his game through till the end.

Tonight was the answer to how to turn from a confident loverboy to a dedicated husband/simp, for people saying his fans were not loyal, you are loyal to the actions and activities that gives your fave talking points especially good talking points when it comes to men, cos negative actions can make male housemates lose followers easily.

How will people love you for being a very confident lover boy and then expect them to continue the same energy when you turned a dedicated/loyal lover boy. Yemi felt Ebuka's question exposing him meant the ship was loved outside and decided to change script rather than just continue to being himself, even Nelissa always told him every time Yemi be yourself , own yourself, do people here think alot of fans liking and giving energy to a loverboy script would continue to do same to a man calling Thabang every other day and reporting and taking nonsense in the name of a relationship ?, And finally people saw Blue was genuinely much more connected to him than the pretender/gamer Khosi and felt very bad the way he dumped and treated her , never even acknowledged her during the valentine dinner and all, well all the best to him, it would be a lesson to other housemates not to over analyze but stick to one game and be confident about it, if it works you are happy ,if it doesn't you're still glad you did it your way.

Pharoh:
You are 100 percent right and his reason for still staying baffles me as people were citing the question ebuka aksed. I mean 100k or whatever, if my babe flirt with a 21 years old, relationship done end talkless of asking for open relationship. Blue is tired of waiting for yemi obviously and the options of men she like are not much in that house outside operation. She told thabang she is tired and wants to run things legit with blaq but his game made her to kind of cut him off yesterday. The disrespect is too much and i don't know what more can be revealed for him to leave this babe because he will be pained about his actions when he is out of the house.

I mean it's so so fake, who goes to meet the guy your so-called babe is having triangle with? Not even once but TWICE, who calls someone like blue to come and shalaye ?, This girl is poking you and all you want to show the world is you're trying your best so much to be the better person/lover with her , it's so so fake, I believe even the housemates would be kinda disgusted with all his actions

Pharoh:
I don't see it as play but gangup against yemi and also as a nigerian, khosi tried to use marvin and blackboi as she is using thabang but they both refused.

Gang up or no gang up, I still insist Yemi's moves are so fake in the house now, like who does all these shalaye after all the expose, if he had cut all this up,it would be either Khosi coming to him to apologize continuously or Khosi involving herself with Thabang which would be nobody business really as there is nothing interesting in that, even blue that was trying to operate is trying to go into blaqboi fully sensing there is no salvaging of her relationship with Yemi, so for how long will Yemi drag this girl, giving her upper hand? , Show me any male housemate that has been persistent in an obvious disrespectful ship like this, I have no clue, he desperately needs someone to banish this embarrassing thought of persisting with Khosi despite obvious reality.

meobizy:
They’re in the same house. He can’t end it. He can only distract himself which I doubt Blue will entertain. Khosi is also there to bully anyone he sets his sights on. If Biggie brings fake housemates tomorrow, he can reset. Khosi is also winning based on things I read here.

But he has said he isnt going back to blue, I also guess he called blue into the conversation too cos he can reiterate that he is not going back to blue so that can be ruled out, having a girl and guy (Khosi and Thabang) plan and strategize against you continuously should be tiring to him and for me outside here sef it's tiring.

Yemi can attempt to go solo and see what happens, see miracle and ipeleng's friendship, laycon got out of the whole Erica drama and faced tasks, Pere got out of Maria drama and played solo, Yemi can build new friends in the house not necessarily relationships

Show or no show,reality show or not, when a woman tells you to have a open relationship , you call the bluff, what is all these if you want to be with Thabang go be with him? Just tell her, we're done, we are just housemates in this house, don't come to my bed and you wont see me at yours, simple, tell both her and Thabang yon now start enjoying being with each other, and take a walk, simples

tooexclusive:
You are a clown... that’s all

When you are empty , this is what you do , resort to nothingness

drimzsmoke:
My guy be spitting fire again....
Kayyy,please I’d like to send you a PM,may I?

Thanks so much bro, why not , you can at anytime bro

Vado2:
Although if Nnamdi Kanu was quite loud about it, it was a joint effort that resulted in the carnage in Lagos; hence, it is incorrect to attribute everything to the Ibos. Was the palace of the Oba of Lagos attacked by the Ibos?

I am now an Ibo man since I hold a different viewpoint.

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In other words you can understand what Nnamdi Kanu and most southeast were doing by spreading hate then and you can also understand Peter Obi giving him solidarity but you just can't believe and understand why most Yoruba people are supporting Tinubu, can anyone here make this make sense?

Vado2:
What caused the 'bigotry' and 'hate' that the Ibos allegedly harbored toward other tribes? Nnamdi Kanu was able to speak to the Ibo people's intrinsic characteristics as a result of their marginalization and also as a result of the exclusionary attitudes and words made about them by some well-meaning authorities.

The OPC would have suffered the similar fate if the Yorubas had not been rewarded by the presidency in 1999. Even though OBJ wasn't a majority of the Yoruba's choice, He was Yoruba by heritage, nevertheless.

You see how you just deflected further, let me remind you that Ipob became prominent during Jonathan's reign and became only more amplified with Buhari cos he acted more ruthlessly, let me also remind you that the Obasanjo you want to declare love for here face similar issues with massob and Obasanjo dealt with them like any normal sitting president would do, let me also remind you that state governors especially south eastern state governors have all dealt ruthlessly with separatist government in the east including this same Peter Obi, from Massob to Ipob they have always been dealt with, so during Jonathan's tenure Ipob was spreading its hate, it got so amplified that this "no election in the east" that they are all cursing Simon Ekpa today for was celebrated in 2015, it took few weeks to election for people to appeal to Nnamdi Kanu to stop sit at home and curfew for Jonathan's sake but to you all I have said above is understandable but a candidate that tried to quell Yoruba nation and opc in his state and region is a tribal candidate while those that encouraged and support separatist movement mean well for nigeria, I will stop here, no one can heal hatred and bigotry so I don't have a solution to your school of thought .

Vado2:
That's right; the perceived marginalization of the Ibo and the inciting remarks made against them by some renowned officials in this country were the only factors contributing to the Ibo's growing hatred of other tribes. Yet others still do; once a famous artist insulted an entire ethnic group.

Any tribe will act similarly, as did the Yorubas when they perceived injustice being meted out to a great Yoruba leader in the person of MKO of blessed memory.

It is very obvious that you're a bigot and a yoruba hating fellow, your hatred shows through you very well, you have explained away 7years of hatred, bile toxicity from most people on the east led by a popular Nnamdi Kanu, it wasnt just hatred and bigotry, but it led to violence and insecurity as well, many nigerian policemen have been killed and numerous police station have been burnt in the south east with most south easterners rejoicing to this news, where were you during Nnamdi Kanu's sit at a home and the people here celebrating it and mocking the governors and president orders against it, you excused and deflected all that away but was able to remember Brymo, and you now come here and refer to a candidate that supported such man nnamdi Kanu and even accosted him to court as s Nigerian candidate and called Tinubu a Yoruba candidate ?,;if you have lived in this country all through this period and this bile is what you have in your mind and pouring out then you yourself is hatred personified and a tribal bigot to the Yoruba people.

For 7 of Buhari's 8 year tenure, most south easterners called this country a zoo, were you alive when Nnamdi Kanu was insulting everything yoruba including pastors, threatening them not to enter their region ?, Peter Obi your Nigerian candidate followed Nnamdi Kanu several times to court as an ally In solidarity despite all the evil words that came out of his mouth, did you come here online to condemn him, now you want to insult our intelligence by referring to that same person as a Nigerian candidate and have the audacity to call Tinubu a tribal candidate ?,

The mental gymnastics people like you play is so baffling, this is so silly if you to attempt , let the best man win,band whoever wins will be our president simple.

Vado2:
The blatantly disingenuous manner in which it is carried out, concealing behind integrity and expertise, closing the eyes to the obvious flaws.

Like the former president of Zimbabwe's wife said, “even if the president uses a wheelchair, people will still elect him”

As long as it's their tribesmen contesting, they'll lie about their expertise and integrity to get away with it. You guys need to be straightforward and honest.

The Ijaws weren't being hypocritical about it.

Nowadays, it should be the best candidate for the position, not The Yoruba vs Everyone. ‘The Yoruba ronu’ slurs, making it appear to be the tribal power play that it is.

If the Yoruba candidate is elected, fundamental tribalists like you might even imitate the Apartheid rule in Yoruba states. Some of you all have Apartheid mentalities.

I've never heard the phrases "Our Rivers," "Our Anambra," or "Our Delta." Aside from "Our Lagos," tribal epithets! You guys are not even concealing it!

Because of comments like “Our Lagos” that’s why “Immigrants” like you all call them fights back with the word “Lagos is a no man’s land”

Tribalism is as bad, if not worse than Racism and xenophobia.

You must look yourself in the mirror with this revisionism you're trying to do here, first you denegrate the APC candidate as being a tribal candidate, what makes him a tribal candidate and makes Peter Obi a Nigerian candidate, all of you have used mischief and propaganda all through this election cycle and we all see through it, it is the audacity to pretend others are not playing tribal politics and you label another tribe of playing tribal politics, since when has yoruba and Edo vote align in the history of this country ? If you claim to be the righteousness you are, why don't you start from your state, your state has best witnessed improvements during the tenure of Oshiomole aligned with APC, but what did you guys vote in your last elections, you claimed Edo no be Lagos , well the result is clear in your face now, you guys have always aligned yourself with south eastern/south south politics regardless of whatever gains you get and now you come out here like on righteous person trying to call yoruba tribalists for supporting Tinubu?

Despite all the stones and insults you have used against him during this election cycle , you guys have refused to discuss merits, who has impacted the people most positively amongst all the candidates during their stewardship?, Who has built a plan that is still till today the most effective interms of development to their people, interms of work and action as a leader during their tenure whose work will you vouch for sincerely ?, when we ask this all you resort is Lagos this , Lagos that, and all other deflections.

Pls spare us all this gibberish now, let the best man win, if Peter Obi wins, he would be my president and we will allow him do his thing, if he loses all fair as well, besides if you are looking for a Nigerian candidate in this election, Atiku better represents that than whom you are referring to

scondy:
Let's just pray yemi switches his game 360 overnight the way Tobi did....it can happen....

Oya let's start calling awon iya wa osoronga....locate yemi and slap him back to reality ...

As in, the best thing that happened that season, CeCe sef no believe the level of resentment, it pained her so much e remain make violence enter, but this our Yemi is to Mr Nice guy to try that

My last post for the night, can you see Yemi does not relate to any other female housemate rather than his triangle and Nelissa, I see even miracle freely relating with Olivia, juvone, Ipeleng even blacqboi, why is Yemi not relating with other girls, why him just gumbody with Khosi , Blue and Nelissa

When this guy went to beg last week and the whole of twitter, social media was on flames, people said we should live him, how do you go from a confident guy to a dedicated husband in a 360, throwing blue under the carpet and you expect to win, and you won't loose fans, well the result of his whole 360 degree was revealed tonight . How you go from a contender to ranked bottom in just a week is so unfortunate

Yemi has to learn to make new female friends, I don't mean flirting but friendship, Olivia is playing a solo game and she can be interesting at times although she goes missing too long, he should go solo and not give Khosi anymore ratings simple, remain cordial with blue, and enjoy himself for the rest of the season, that's all, going back to flirting mode might be interesting to fans but I don't think it would help, also he would realise that he was too fast ending things with blue, but that is gone, he should let it go

The game has been reset, I do hope there is no "production pets" talk anymore, and if Yemi has any resemblance of sense, he would go solo now, if you're hearing blue is sharing body fluids and Khosi is lying to you, you should cut the two of them and go solo, that's all

The only reason I can cut Yemi some slack and probably give him a benefit of doubt would be if probably his current appearance isn't about Khosi but perhaps the public opinion of f him due to Ebuka's expose, cos we saw how Ebuka's expose turned Shegzz to a softie for the rest of last season I guess Yemi might be towing the same line and thus playing the faithful guy, only this reason is all I can think for him seeing all the activities regarding Khosi and overlooking them all, sometimes he would ask her, start probing her then stop half way and smile and act lovingly, maybe that could be the reason

At this point, i guess its becoming evident that our guy Yemi has prroven all our thought about him being not too smart, how can yemi be showing more emotions than khosi and even young thabang?, i am so praying that Ebuka doesnt ask any shit from khosi this evening, i personally dont want him to meddle or shake/scatter any table anymore, if Yemi has heard this night from about 2 different people about khosi's mixed feelings and still building his game on ebuka's exposure than he is not smart enough, if in all the conversation he has heard about Thabang, the one he heard from Nelissa and even the hints from Miracle all through this night he has not gotten any sense and still feels his antagonist is miracle, then he is the simp of the season. Infact contrary to others i feel Miracle actually helped yemi to retrace his game with the whole talk tonight, along with words from nelissa and others but if his thought process is to be the macho man protecting a babe from an unyielding interest (miracle) is all his brain is telling him then too bad for him.

Geezeem:
This!

NB: Miracle of BBN won playing husband tho and Mercy won playing wife too. Just saying 🤷

Tho in the mentioned cases, they did something extra to keep the fire burning on the outside aside their ships, which Yemi isn't doing yet

Miracle was very good with tasks and won a lot.... he also had his thing with Alex and Tobi on the side.... Mercy was the queen of highlights herself

Miracle and Mercy were in charge. We all saw how they normally change it for Nina and Ike respectively, Yemi is not incharge here is my problems, Yemi is giving it up all and none of those gave up for a housemate in the house

I predicted this last night and this is even much worse, now I like Yemi as well, so I am going to ask his fans like myself, if Yemi has watched bbn, I don't care the version he watched, where has he seen any housemate playing dedicated husband winning the game ?, I also ask his fans since when has a dedicated husband won the show, even Efe that had a thing with Marvis was in control of his game from start to finish. People are saying ebuka spoilt his game and made him run into his shell, so how is this game he wants to play or what he is doing currently going to get him the win?, So he is going to be licking khosi's ass, fighting her over Thabang , miracle etc arguing like a scorned husband and in his head this would get people crown him ? If he was afraid that his triangle might loose him votes and hence the win then how didn't he think he being boxed or put into a bottle fighting over ownership of Khosi from now on would give him the win ?, This is not the measure of someone playing smart, also what rational made him belief total disregard and disrespect if blue would help him rather than help Khosi ? , This is a typical example of how to bring your game down from 100 to 0 happening in our eyes, even miracle, blaqboi, Marvin would earn more respect now. I am so sorry this guy is not showing smartness I thought he would have

safarigirl:
Na the real problem be this. Yemi cannot even see anything Kobosi does as wrong, it is as if she jazzed him.

He no dey ever clock her game, yet, every altercation he has ever gotten in, and every enemy he has in that house is because of Kobosi, not Blue. Kobosi is the one that put a target on his back, Kobosi is the one telling everyone his business and painting him black.

His lack of awareness as regards that babe dey muzz me, how can you so blindly trust someone you met in a game just because you made some silly pact in Week 1 that she has betrayed multiple times?

Thank you very much, you hit the nail, that was why in my third paragraph I said if only he branched out to more girls as friends in the house he would hear and understand better from a woman's perspective. Besides why would you give in for a woman to control your narrative in a game where you're all competing cause you're both in a supposed ship?, that is not a sign of a confident thinking guy. All he is only focussing on now is that the ship with Khosi is good for him due to how ebuka asked the question last night and he is towing that route. Unfortunate for him really.

Geezeem:
Na lie
Yemi doesn't have balls
Y'all just dey find scapegoat in Ebuka

leave that thing!

This is point seriously, own your ships with 2 girls, do not throw one under for the other rather declare you love/like them both in their different ways, those wey go hate you go hate you, those wey go love you go love you, not outright lies on TV with what people have watched for weeks and then denying one girl for the other when you should not even trust any of them cos it's a game till when you have seen the reason to trust the one you want amongst them.