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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 8:45pm On Oct 03, 2022
Exnavyboy62:


Well this is one of the repercussions of listening to and allowing The United Sanctions of WARmerica to have an influence on your political actions and decisions. The wise ones among the Europeans have booked their stay throughout winter in Turkey, but the unlucky ones will have to bear the brunt of being puppeteered.

[b]If care is not taken, we might witness riots and violent protests in Europe during this winter due [/b]to living in unfavorable conditions of Cold coupled with the already existing cost of living crisis, Inflation crisis and energy crisis.

Most Europeans, I'm sorry to say have been completely neutered. Decades of neurolinguistic programming have turned them into passive aggressive byatches.
How do you think they accepted all those migrants since the 90s? Don't expect anything from Scandis as they've Norwegian oil or any of the Germanics apart from the Dutch. They've ALWAYS had a low boiling point that confuses people due to their universal even temperament. I've seen them turn severally in a nanosecond from smiling equinamity to snarling hostility when they felt dissed. It's a cultural thing.

Dutch people are quite direct in their contact with others and use ample eye contact. In fact, they are direct to the point of seeming rude or unsociable, although it is rarely intended that way. The Dutch are okay with verbal conflict and they don't fear that confrontation may damage a relationship.

[url][https://www.expatcentreleiden.nl/living-here/dutch-language-and-culture/url]

Which is why I was heartened when Dutch farmers shut down the nation in July after their PM ordered them to cease operations to cut down nitrogen emission in the name of the Climate Cult. Any srs European resistance to GloboHomo diktat will crystallize there.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 5:15pm On Oct 03, 2022
Attention,any forumers currently based in Western Europe.

Autumn is here. Within a month it'll be averaging 5 degrees celsius and real winter follows in Dec as you know with occasional 0 or even as low as -5 degrees celsius.
The Western leaders have shown their true loyalty to the architects of the J/Uke mess by advising their citizens to collect firewood.

DUTCH RESIDENTS ARE BUYING FIREWOOD IN LARGE QUANTITIES DUE TO RISING GAS PRICES
Suppliers report that the product may run out completely by the second half of the summer. In addition, timber supplies from Eastern Europe have decreased due to anti-Russian sanctions.

Источник: https://runews24.ru/eng/world/02/08/2022/b5b36f921e970d25082fcbf877d8f676
Новости онлайн: http://runews24.ru/

Whether a single fireplace can heat a 3 bedroomed flat is ofc another story but things may turn biblical-already the Swiss,Germans and Dutch leaders are advising on limiting showers. The inevitable consequences are terrifying- faced with freezing citizens who they already don't give a rat EFF about your survival as a black foreigner may be definitely problematic.
Pls,organise a contingency plan now! When and if the freeze happens Dutch,Belgian,Swiss and German citizens abandoned by their respective governments will ofc be concerned primarily with their own people. Idk if it'll be a purge;it may very well be- I only know if this path continues there may well be a real life W European Ice Age.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 4:52pm On Oct 03, 2022
Faithful007:
You need to forget all these silly stories being paraded by West Africans and far-right empty-headed politicians if you really want to see the world as it is. Even if France leaves those countries completely, nothing will change.

Brookings, Carnegie and others had predicted several years ago on how many West African countries will become politically unstable. France, the US and co felt that they could stabilize the region with USAID, military assistance and other activities while gaining allies. Now these have to a large extent failed to stem the lack of progress and resource strain in the region.

Due to colonial and slavery past as well as the rising ideological differences between the West and West Africa. Suspicion is rising and the West is starting to take blames. Relating with sub-Saharan Africa is becoming very tricky. Even China's economic involvement in central and west Africa started to generate conspiracy about colonization.

Russia is becoming an interesting topic for some countries. But Russia does not have the economic strength of the West or China to invest in Africa. Basically they just prefer to gain the favor of autocratic leaders in Africa. That way, they don't have to keep a large footprint and risk falling out of favor.

But little will change in terms of development. Truth is, only a region's people will determine socio-economic rise, and not a foreign country.

Silly stories!? Seriously? How many times has the French agenda on secret support for BH and the Sahelian jihadists been revealed here on this thread? Everyone from Eeben Barlow to Cameroonians have revealed how choppers are flying in arms and fighters. Sahelian officials have made IDENTICAL claims. Why did Mali expel the French ambassador? While you're at it find out how Jean-Fraude controls their ex colonies via the Pacte Coloniale.
Things are NOT as simple as they appear.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 7:50pm On Oct 02, 2022
We're in a new geopolitical landscape!

The new Italian PM publicly excoriates Maricon (spp) over his nations longstanding sliminess in France Afrique.

[url][https://twitter.com/i/status/1575111634107801601/url]

Til very recently such things were left unsaid as part of the rules of play of the global rulers playbook. Guys,ishyt is changing!

Edit: Just so you all know I've NOTHING against the French but its obvious Jean-Fraude is a slimy mofo.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 1:59pm On Oct 02, 2022
Lurker4Long:


The Kenyans came here. Announcement coming soon on 3-way deal in the medical field involving SA, Indian and Kenyan pharma companies.

Speaking of which the last few pages have crystallised an idea. You guys have have the software and hardware,ie,they've the actual experience and technical knowledge,like the CNCs and other hitech equipment ,the high quality steel and light weight alloy production to produce world beating platforms for air/sea and land.

5-axis machines rely on a tool that moves in five different directions — X, Y, and Z, as well as A and B, around which the tool rotates. Using a 5-axis CNC machine lets operators approach a part from all directions in a single operation, eliminating the need to manually reposition the workpiece between operations.
[url]https://www.fastradius.com/resources/3-axis-vs-5-axis-cnc-machining/#:~:text=5%2Daxis%20machines%20rely%20on,reposition%20the%20workpiece%20between%20operations.[/url]

This will drill,cut,bore and tap everything from light metals like aluminium to 4140 steel for gun barrels,newly developed inconel to titanium and even super hard tungsten at very tight tolerances necessary for aerospace tech. Til around 05-08 5 axis CNCs were unofficially under global sanction to prevent the 3rd world getting access to the ability to produce our own missile parts.

Inconels are a class of nickel-chrome-based super alloys characterized by high corrosion resistance, oxidation resistance, strength at high temperatures, and creep resistance. Inconel is able to withstand elevated temperatures and extremely corrosive environments due to two factors.
https://markforged.com/resources/blog/inconel-vs-stainless-steel#:~:text=Inconels%20are%20a%20class%20of,environments%20due%20to%20two%20factors.


Here's a small 5 axis CNC a work.

https://youtu.be/gLnFYBC6MtA?list=PLiy-l63fXCAhMPhpgPQlZ1Y0smw5rq2hc

Machining AR parts.
https://youtu.be/_uSkj671urw

Fyi,the larger 5 axis CNC machine starts at 500k $. I'll be my last shilling there are at least 6x more down south than the entire north of the Limpopo.

“In the last 15 years we've gone over to CNC machining, and we now exceed 80 CNC machines – probably the largest number of CNC machines in one place in South Africa,” he states proudly. The factory features a number of processing and machining plants, as well as a testing laboratory.
https://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/machining-capabilities-at-free-state-factory-probably-the-largest-in-sa-2022-08-18

One of the largest CNC makers,Hurco NA,has a very successful Saffa subsidiary.

Hurco has been active in South Africa since 2005 when a local representative introduced Hurco CNC machines to the country. In 2008, Hurco South Africa (Pty) Ltd was officially established as subsidiary of Hurco Europe Ltd to demonstrate a clear, long term commitment to support the growing number of machines and clients in the country......As of 2020, there are more than 200 Hurco machines installed at numerous sites throughout South Africa with many clients having the confidence to place repeat orders for additional machines.
https://www.thmachinetools.co.za/Agencies/Hurco

Anyway,this is for other forumers,not you; I'm sure you know all this better than I. With your huge potential you're now being ouflanked by upstart arms makers in Turkey and India. The former are selling choppers to Naij and the Phils' while you guys have tried for almost 2 decades to sell your Rooivalk! The latter are productionising new arty systems it seems weekly. They're also looking or coproduction and ToT-India was looking for an African partner.
When that happens you do realise you're DONE!? I would be next to impossible to sell anything in these parts or anywhere else. If it were up to me I'd leverage all Saffa advantages plus the finances, invade Nairobi and/or Lagos set up factories and bang out our products. Imo,if you were more Afro centred you'd have had more market success with the Rooivalk-you'd have seen its overkill for our market;like a Rolls in a space of 2nd and 3rd hand Toyota Caldinas and Proboxes and redesigned a Rooivalk lite with the same low down time and ease of maintenance with Russian simplicity.

Final thought look at Indonesia:
Since 2012, DI has produced almost 60 aircraft and helicopters. The company has exported its products to South Korea, Senegal and Thailand.

I think you can do better if you properly strategise and target your market-a win for you guys is a win for all of us!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 5:24pm On Oct 01, 2022
Lurker4Long:
Paramount launches Maatla light vehicle

Paramount Group subsidiary Paramount Land Systems is for the first time unveiling its new Maatla 4×4 Light Protected Vehicle (LPV), which is aimed at the rapidly growing lightweight and more affordable segment of the armoured vehicle market.

The Maatla (meaning Power in Setswana) has already received orders for 50 vehicles from two customers, Paramount said.

“The latest addition to Paramount’s family of protected vehicles is already in production for an African country with one of the most challenging, rugged and remote environments for land forces to operate in,” the company stated.

Eric Ichikowitz, Senior Vice President, Paramount International, stated: “Our customers can now take full advantage of three decades of armoured vehicle innovation, engineering excellence and market leadership, but in a lighter class vehicle designed in response to changing customer requirements. We are very excited to offer border patrol, gendarmerie, police units and armed forces in Africa and around the world with best-in-class technologies and capability. The vehicle’s lighter weight and commercial components ultimately enables greater customer affordability and faster production rates.”

The Maatla has been manufactured on a commercial vehicle chassis for proven reliability and low cost. It features “Smart Floor” technology, enabling the seating to be quickly removed and the vehicle to be configured as either an ambulance, command vehicle or customisable for other mission requirements, such as border patrol, military support, policing, or peacekeeping missions. Day/night vision devices and extra sensors can also be fitted to provide 24/7 operability.

The Maatla provides ballistic and blast protections to STANAG 4569 Level 1, and can protect against handguns and other small calibre ball rounds. It also provides underbelly protection against M26 hand grenades or a blast equivalent.

Mobility and agility

The Maatla can reach a road speed of up to 100 km/h, with a cruising range of up to 600 km when traveling at 80 km/h, and a fording depth of up to 750 mm without preparation. The vehicle is fitted with a 2-speed transfer case and 3 differential locks for difficult terrain. The vehicle can be operated in environments with temperatures ranging from -10°C to + 55°C.

Deon Grobler, CEO of Paramount Land Systems, stated that, “We are very excited to diversify our product range, compete in this new class of Light Protected Vehicles, and introduce customers with these requirements into our world beating family of protected vehicles. The Maatla is a light armour, multi-purpose vehicle, offering excellent cross-country performance and reliability. Designed to handle a two-tonne payload, the Maatla offers near infinite-configurability in terms of onboarding mission specific equipment, weapons, and armour scalability.”

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/paramount-launches-maatla-light-vehicle/

Sometimes I honestly get the impression everybody down South who can wield a spanner is building an iteration of an MRAP. Not a hater but at what point does 'market saturation' come into play... In the 80s these were the main players;
Over the years, the main industry players were TFM Defence & Security, Sandock Austral, OMC Engineering, Truckmakers, Gear Ratio (specialising in transmissions and powerpacks), Henred Fruehauf, UCDD, and Ermetek. Mergers, aquisitions, and disposals complicate the corporate history of modern South African AFV design and manufacture.
https://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/south-africas-armoured-vehicle-success-steeped-in-impressive-design-manufacture-history-2008-10-10/rep_id:4136

Today there are more players though Idk if there were mergers or employees going solo.

Integrated Convoy Protection: The company is particularly renowned for its REVA Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicle that has been labelled the most impressive Armoured Personnel Carriers (APC) used in combat today. It has been exported to the Middle East & Asia.
OTT Technologies: Their robust Puma M36 Mine and Blast Protected Recovery Vehicle is highly acclaimed worldwide for its multifunctional capability. It is also used by the likes of the United Nations (UN) and the Kenyan Army.
Saab Grintek Defence: A market leader who was recently awarded best export company for two years consecutively, Saab Grintek Defence will show their cutting-edge electronic self-protection system for combat vehicles.
Paramount Group: Another global aerospace & defence company that has its roots in Africa & that has a sterling track record for innovating trailblazing technologies. Their 6x6 Mbombe, a highly agile infantry fighting vehicle, is expected to be showstopper.
https://www.aadexpo.co.za/blog/article/top-african-combat-vehicles-in-the-spotlight-at-the-aad-expo

Its not exhaustive ofc-there's no Milkor on the list who I thought were happy dominating the global AGL market til I saw this 4X4 MRAP they recently developed.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 5:06pm On Oct 01, 2022
Lurker4Long:
Kikuyu1, seeing that it's Friday:

My beloved Art of Duplicity has made it to 88 on the top 100 of the world's best bars for 2022.
I know a few Nairobi boulevardiers who swear by the Hero Bar (68).
The top 50 comes out October 04.

I've never been,imagine. I've googled and its not my place as it lacks a smoking area. My kind of place is a simple lounge with good food like Havana and/or Milan Delta Corner,both in Westlands. Beyond the city I also like fifteen on Mombasa road.
Btw,you were supposed to be here in September-are you still coming....
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 4:57pm On Oct 01, 2022
Faithful007:
It is a CASA 212 from Spain. US Special Forces use it as well.

And so it is. My bad-should've recognised despite the similar dimensions it lacks the distinctive Buff nose I've seen several times upclose.

Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 2:37pm On Sep 30, 2022
[urlhttps://youtube.com/shorts/y0YDTBvwQXc?feature=share[/url]

Wtf happened! Judging from the tree branches it wasn't wind. Did the fly guy somehow fk up the DZ?
They landed all over!
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 1:41pm On Sep 30, 2022
Lurker4Long:
Aselsan and Denel cooperating on MEROPS gimbal

On the Turkish Pavilion at Africa Aerospace and Defence (AAD) 2022 Aselsan is showing its ‘MEROPS’ next generation air surveillance and targeting gimbal sight. The MEROPS (Multi-spectral Extended Range Optical Sight) system was displayed for the first time in June at the Eurosatory exhibition in Paris, France.

Aselsan Chairman, President and CEO, Haluk Görgün witnessed the live demonstration at Air Force Base Waterkloof of the MEROPS system designed and developed entirely by the company’s Aselsan South Africa (ASA) branch. It is intended for large-scale series production in Turkey for both the Turkish Armed Forces and export customers around the world.

The South African branch supports the Turkey based company with design and development services. “We aim to establish long-term relationships and local partnerships here,” ASA general manager Sencer Sahin stated. “To date our design facility has provided advanced camera systems to Denel’s OTR test range and other local customers, including the Institute of Maritime Technology, Paramount Technologies, and Reutech Radar Systems.”

This is testimony to the company’s aim to continue its active role in establishing strategic partnerships with local entities for both South Africa’s and third-country requirements in the African region.

The MEROPS system is the latest product in the family of reconnaissance and surveillance systems from Aselsan.

South Africa’s state-owned Denel Group and Aselsan reached an agreement this week at AAD 2022 to work towards integration of the MEROPS system on Denel’s flagship aerospace systems, the Rooivalk attack helicopter and possibly on the Seeker 400 drone. A MEROPS gimbal is being displayed alongside the Rooivalk in the static area.

Aselsan SA is a wholly owned branch of Ankara headquartered Aselsan Elektronik Sanayi ve Ticaret AS, a global defence and advanced electronics company established more than 50 years ago. The local branch, staffed with a pool of highly trained and experienced South African engineers and technicians, serves as a centre of excellence for the mother company in Turkey.

Thanks to its significant investment in ASA since 2011, the branch not only provides design and development, but also acts as the hub for Aselsan’s business development strategy in markets in sub-Saharan Africa and the establishment of long-term relationships.

The MEROPS system was specifically designed for extreme combat situations, particularly in low light and the difficult light encountered at dawn and dusk. Among the roles envisaged for MEROPS are medium to long range observation and reconnaissance, pointing, area illumination and target designation at medium altitude.

The sight incorporates the latest in image processing technologies, including traditional image enhancement, as well as the latest in machine vision and AI based algorithms. Its mission enhancement capabilities include moving target identification, isotherms, false colour identification and threat identification.

The MEROPS is a self-contained single LRU (line-replacement unit) with quick-release connections. Payloads can be exchanged without calibration. Electronic bore-sighting is done before a mission, and it boasts an embedded web server for setup, control, and maintenance. According to Kobus Coetzee, ASA’s Engineering Manager, the MEROPS is easy to maintain.

Its next-generation software functionality includes multi-target auto-tracking with target re-acquisition, artificial intelligence (AI) threat detection classification and background automatic see-spot detection. The MEROPS operates at temperatures from -40°C to 70°C.

Aselsan as a global company operates in a wide range of disciplines, from communication and information technologies (ICT), micro-electronics, guidance and electro-optics to radar, electronic warfare, and defence systems technologies. It is also active in transportation, security, energy, and automation systems.

AAD 2022 is giving the company the opportunity to show a wide range of systems in South Africa. Among the field proven solutions are military and professional radios, the KALKAN mobile medium altitude 3D air defence radar, ALKAR 120 mm mortar weapon system, border security solutions, laser guidance kit, the FOPRAD foliage penetration radar, electro-optic solutions, and anti-drone RF jammer system.

Earlier this year, Aselsan South Africa revealed a range of its life support and medical imaging solutions. Whilst these innovative products were designed primarily for use in healthcare facilities in the commercial and civil environments, they would be equally useful in the military field.

The company’s personnel now total over 7 000 with a high proportion of these being engineers and technicians. It invests substantially in R&grin, allocating more than 7% of its annual revenue towards these activities.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/aselsan-and-denel-cooperating-on-merops-gimbal/

Good to know Johnny Turk is expanding his presence in this space. Seen his ALKAR mortars? Mounted and unmounted they're a win for all of us.

Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 1:36pm On Sep 30, 2022
Lurker4Long:
Sherq Engineering setting its sights on turrets

A Pretoria based engineering firm is designing and producing custom built turrets for customers as far afield as Azerbaijan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the UAE as well as numerous African countries.

Sherq, which is based in Pretoria but has decentralised manufacturing operations with its partners across the world, has been in operation for the last seven years. It has designed turrets that are uniquely South African in IP, but totally platform and weapons systems agnostic.

“We pride ourselves on working very closely with our customers,” explained technical director Rolf Dieterich, “we have developed unique features on our turrets that we can customise to their specifications or put into production immediately if they are standard.”

Three of the turrets were on display at Africa Aerospace and Defence 2022 last week. The KS1 is the basic gunner protection turret capable of being scaled up in size and ballistic protection to mount anything from a 5.56 mm weapon all the way to the much heavier .50 calibre machine gun or Russian KPVT 14.5 x 114 mm.

Then there is the KS2 one-man turret, which can handle 5.56 mm all the way to the 30 x 133 mm cannon as used on the Apache attack helicopter or mount the Russian 14.5 x 114 mm, while maintaining 200 rounds per minute in controlled fire.

The KS3 is a low profile turret with a very high rate of fire, carrying 500 rounds for the main weapon and 1 000 rounds for the co-axial machine gun, while the KS4 is a low profile, fully electric, stabilised high tech turret that is a rival for the current turret being produced for the SANDF’s long overdue Project Hoefyster IFV fleet replenishment project.

“We have learnt a lot in the development of these turrets that goes much further the engineering of them,” Dieterich told defenceWeb. “We have developed unique building blocks which have allowed us in many cases to actually improve the weapons systems that are mounted in them, adding features to them that they were not designed with and extending their life of service because our firing platforms are much smoother and gentler.”

Some of Sherq’s building blocks include improving muzzle breaks and buffering to allow for the KS3 and the advanced KS4 turret to be fully stabilised, meaning that the accuracy of the main weapon and its rate of fire is unaffected by the behaviour of the vehicle, which in turn does not need to slow down or come to a complete stop for effective accurate fire to be laid down.

The turrets are electric with manual back-ups should the electric circuity become disabled in combat situations. They can also be fitted with a wide range of options should the customer desire them, from the entire range of external sensors from thermal cameras to laser pointers and blue force trackers to automatic grenade launchers.

Sherq’s hallmark innovation and agility was necessitated by the nature of the market, said Dieterich. Most defence procurement deals are government to government negotiations, but increasingly there is a need not to be behlden to a single supplier in an ever changing and increasingly contested geo-political situation.

“Our business model throughout has been to foster a close working relationship with the customer. We support them to empower themselves to take charge of the product. We want to partner with them for years to come, not just chase on a once off deal.”

Just as the turrets can be fitted to carry western or eastern European systems and fitted to either kind of hull, so too is the pricing highly adjustable – and the level of localisation.

“We can make the turrets anywhere in the world, we comply with whatever level of localisation they want and we can either design a custom solution for them or go straight into production the very next day if it is something we designed.

“To make sure the client is absolutely certain of what they want, we give them the turret and the weapon system to test themselves and then we start modifying from there.”

The KS4 is a case in point, as there three different versions in Azerbaijan, Italy, the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/sherq-engineering-setting-its-sights-on-turrets/

Very interesting! How do they manage QC with such decentralisation?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 1:30pm On Sep 30, 2022
Faithful007:
Impressive. I didn't even know Nigeria had had an Airborne division (or wherever it's classed). Meanwhile, what aircraft dropped them? C130?

Do you know if they have seen combat before?

Why hasn't Nigerian air force considered getting about four of these?

Looks like a Buffalo De Havilland Canada. The KAF and everyone from Brazil to the US and Egypt flew this light lifter. IIRC,they're no longer in production.
DHC ended production of the plane in 1972, but reopened the assembly line in 1974 thanks to new orders such as from Egypt. It was not until 1986 that the Buffalo was definitively discontinued. The largest operator of the aircraft was the Brazilian Air Force, between 1965 and 2007, which had 24 DHC-5s in its fleet.
https://www.airdatanews.com/dhc-5-buffalo-withdrawn-from-service-in-canada-after-nearly-55-years/

It was STOL capable and very handy for its day. Capacity is up to 41 troops or some 18,000 lb of cargo payload and power is provided by two 3,133 hp GE CT64 turboprops.

A production DHC-5D Buffalo was used for breaking time-to-height records for the weight category 12,000–16,000 kilograms (26,000–35,000 lb) on 16 February 1976, reaching 3,000 metres (9,800 ft) in 2 min 12.75 sec, 6,000 metres (20,000 ft) in 4 min 27.5 sec and 9,000 metres (30,000 ft) in 8 min 3.5 sec.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-5_Buffalo#New_production

Modern analogues are the C 295 and/or C 27 Spartan which max out load at 6 and 10 T respectively. Ideally with your total armed forces numbers of 220 k according to wiki get 2 squadrons of the C 295 for light intra [/b]theatre lift. Reinforcing, resupplying and casevacking battalion FOBs every 2 or so days,plus platoon size para drops. A single 12 ship squadron of the Spartan can do similar functions on a [b]theatre wide basis for brigades.

As we all know how the Oyinbos can be with their equipment especially when you're REALLY in need you can replace your 130s with the Shaanxi Y 9 for the heavy lifting. A half squadron with a flight availability of 70% may be possible. Also at 50 mn $ FAC its half the price!


China’s Air Force Declares Shaanxi Y-9 Transport Aircraft Operational
China’s take on the C-130J Super Hercules reached operational capability.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/12/chinas-air-force-declares-shaanxi-y-9-transport-aircraft-operational/

The Y-9 is designed for 25 tons of cargo but can reportedly carry up to 30 tons.

The aircraft can fit up to 106 passengers, 132 paratroopers, or 72 stretchers. For vehicles, it can carry two para-droppable ZBD-03 airborne combat vehicles as well as various other military equipment such as light trucks, cargo containers or pallets.

The cargo bay has an internal volume of 155 m3 and is fitted with cargo handling rollers and tie-down rings. The rear entrance to the cargo bay also functions as a ramp.[1][8]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaanxi_Y-9

Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 9:43pm On Sep 28, 2022
O/T BUT A NECESSARY PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!
Over the years I've noticed a definite universal tendency among the under 40s that increases with the youth. A propensity to ishyttalk thanks to NEVER being checked even once. Imo, it's a direct outgrowth of cyber anonymity: you can not only pose as an expert on forums but escape consequences of a beat down as you verbally assault others.
IRL there are very very real immediate consequences. 3 people died in less than 3 mns in this video cause a guy and his wife committed the cardinal sin of the 11th commandment; they didn't know who they were fkn with!?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id9pd8zfQcs]

At 2.02 as the first shots ring out getting the husband the byatch is STILL talking ishyt!

He screams "call the cops!", abandoning his wife who takes 2 rounds at contact range to the face but survives.

The shooter returns from his house where he maybe reloaded or got even more heat at 3.15 and before sending the harridan to hell with another double tap to the face says " you should have kept your fkn mouth shut!"

He'd recently lost his wife and killed himself soon after. I know you've all been told to avoid urban Black America but this is Pennsylvania,goddammit!?

Stand your ground by all means but don't instigate useless f'ery. These are just a few incidents of bloodletting induced by verbal f'tardation I've witnesses. A pal of mine once put a fork in someone's face after several jokes about his weight in a DC apartment in 92.
In 2000 an acquaintance died from a single punch to the head after accusing someone of murder. Post mortem showed his brain shifted when his head slammed into the wall causing instant massive brain damage.
7 yrs later a guy I know shot another dude in the leg during a Nairobi nightclub altercation.
Learn to avoid aholes and their arseholia.

Rmbr the first lines of the Desiderata.
Carry on!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 11:11am On Sep 28, 2022
This week 77 yrs ago the first of the almost 60,000 US servicemen was KIA in Vietnam. Lt Col Peter Dewey was part of a 7 man OSS team,the CIA predecessor observing the post war French/Viet Minh situation and actually supported the latter. Jean-Fraude had been jailed by the Japanese army:after they surrendered he was eager to get back his colony and ofc Ho Chi Minh had other ideas.

It was during this time of chaos that Lt. Col. Peter Dewey, a U.S. Army officer with the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) in Vietnam, is shot and killed in Saigon. Dewey was the head of a seven-man team sent to Vietnam to search for missing American pilots and to gather information on the situation in the country after the surrender of the Japanese.
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/09/26/on-this-day-in-1945-the-first-u-s-soldier-is-killed-during-vietnams-august-revolution/

Imo,his death was very suspicious-he was in a jeep and his colleague didn't get a scratch?

In fact:
Some will be shocked to find out that the United States and Ho Chi Minh, our nemesis for much of the Vietnam War, were once allies. Indeed, during the last year of World War II, American spies in Indochina found themselves working closely with Ho Chi Minh and other anti-colonial factions—compelled by circumstances to fight together against the Japanese. Dixee Bartholomew-Feis reveals how this relationship emerged and operated and how it impacted Vietnam's struggle for independence.
https://kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-1652-7.html

What might have been?

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Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 7:31pm On Sep 26, 2022
This isn't a shocker. I first heard it late last year and again in Feb with names connected directly to UK.




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How A Goldenberg-Like Scandal Had Been Plotted In Uhuru's Last Term - CBK Boss Patrick Njoroge
Joseph Muia
By Joseph Muia
Published on: September 21, 2022 06:17 (EAT)
How a Goldenberg-like scandal had been plotted in Uhuru's last term - CBK boss Patrick Njoroge
Njoroge revealed that a section of leadership had infiltrated the public coffers with the intention of embezzling funds in the foreign exchange department something the CBK management has since managed to deal with.


Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) Governor Dr Patrick Njoroge has claimed that during the final term of President Uhuru Kenyatta's reign, there was a plot by some government personnel in the finance docket to sabotage the country's economy as was the case during the infamous Goldenberg scandal.

Dr. Njoroge revealed that a section of government officers had infiltrated the public coffers with the intention of embezzling funds in the foreign exchange department but the CBK management has since managed to deal with.

Despite not mentioning the culprits for what he said was a lack of distinctive evidence, he said that CBK managed to get wind of the scheme and was able to stop it thus preventing a similar loss like the 1990s Goldenberg scandal that led to a loss of about 10 percent of the country's GDP.

[url[/https://www.citizen.digital/news/how-a-goldenberg-like-scandal-had-been-plotted-in-uhurus-last-term-cbk-boss-patrick-njoroge-n306077url]

The CBK Gov doesn't talk ishyt! I've been wondering at the sudden fall of the kshs. Despite the J/Uke thing our fundamentals have always been solid. It appears there's been market manipulation allowing the usual suspects to make a killing.
Mzee, I repeat we need to investigate UK State Capture ASAP! I hope the process is underway. Imagine the ishytf'ery these mofos would've gotten away with!
Everyone else I hope you now see why so many are opposed to UK and all his doings.
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 1:07pm On Sep 25, 2022
rugged7:
I've told them from farback days of oga beegs.
But they keep deluding themselves and come here to post rubbish with their south african blockhead sidekicks.

Instead of them to acknowledge that their beloved Nigerian army has a big problem.
12 years into a counterinsurgency on home soil, the army has not developed into the tip of the spear but instead keeps blundering from one crises to another. Like a bull in a China shop. It's a complete disgrace. Spits*** grin grin





Dude,the Naij Armed Forces is undergoing CHANGE-this isn't an EVENT but a process; a time consuming one. They're currently undertaking the largest induction of new sea/air and ground combat platforms since I joined ToT in 2011. Corvettes,a frigates,new FSBs in the form of JF 17s and 346s plus the Tucs and MBTs along with MRAPs and IFVs have been acquired. If any other nation has conducted such a dramatic one time full spectrum acquisition let me know! Imo,this is part of a CHANGE PROCESS:
Change management is defined as the methods and manners in which a company describes and implements change within both its internal and external processes. This includes preparing and supporting employees, establishing the necessary steps for change, and monitoring pre- and post-change activities to ensure successful implementation.

Significant organizational change can be challenging. It often requires many levels of cooperation and may involve different independent entities within an organization. Developing a structured approach to change is critical to help ensure a beneficial transition while mitigating disruption.
https://asq.org/quality-resources/change-management

Hopefully after the hardware upgrade the necessary software upgrade,the warfighting TTPs,Tactics,Techniques and Protocols,ie the tactics and training can be adapted to utilise the new platforms with better success.

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Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 12:02pm On Sep 23, 2022
MzeeMwenyewe1:


There's nothing like Kenya we are just forcing an identity that's non-existent. It's high time everyone goes his own separate ways, that should be the next move.

We won't keep you.

Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 11:59am On Sep 23, 2022
MzeeMwenyewe1:
Whats the point of crossing seas only to talk to yourself, world delegates can't waste time listening to a thief cry cry

I thought we'd gotten over the election butthurt? Are you guys going to rehash the ishyf'ery again up to and incl Julie Soweto's embarrassing court room conmanship?
Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 11:48am On Sep 23, 2022
rvp20182:
Cry for Nigeria

Terrible
Terrible airline. The worst flying experience ever. Fly at your own peril. After 3 flight cancellations, 7 hours of delays at the Lagos Airport, we finally got to JFK without a single piece of luggage except the crew's. The toilets without tissue paper and soap, lousy food and overall terrible service.


https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g1-d8728955-r449588699-Arik_Air-World.html#

I decided to read a few reviews; Ohhh Naij!?

Firstly we were told at Heathrow flight had been cancelled and they put us up in hotel for the night.at Holiday inns. Then after boarding the following eve I saw there was no inflight entertainment plus the airline food was horrid.
The airline crew looked harassed and not friendly.
Arrived in Nigeria the following morning and was told the connecting flight was cancelled due to technical problems!
I was ushered to a broom cupboard of a dingy office to be left there for hours on end until they could get authority to book me a hotel, finally after losing my temper I was taken to a hotel at 1pm in a 3 ton truck which was supposed to be a taxi!!!!

As expected! Tbh, you'd be best concentrating on simpler biz. Get your basics like water and sewerage right before you take on the complexities of airline business. It's too demanding with low margins and high customer demands of tight timelines, inflight passenger service, food etc, etc not just for Naijjans, but possibly all Waffas from my observations.
Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 11:32am On Sep 23, 2022
rvp2018:
Africa countries led by South Africa should raise the 80b dollars required to get the grand inga dam ...it would be world largest power station...and can provide base load for southern, central and east Africa countries

That would be ideal but it requires peace in that benighted nation called the DRC. Also it would srsly alarm the PTB who've an interest in the status quo.
Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 11:17am On Sep 23, 2022
Just40:
Kente was an Akan invention.. how will foreigner who didn't have that invention trade it?

Kikuyu women were the largest commodity of the Arab slave trade.. the trade later became beneficial to the Kikuyu such that they started becoming slave trade masters and rounding up other communities to trade as slaves.

all your Bantus tribes with uncentralized systems were so week

WTF do you get this dycknoise!? On second thought NEVER mind!
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 1:36pm On Sep 22, 2022
Just been looking at recent posts on the J/Uke situation. You're all entitled to your opinion but tbh you ALL need to deepen your info sources. You need to first free your mentalspaces from MSM BS before ponificating.
Its so bad some of you don't know which way is up.....I'm just saying.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 1:31pm On Sep 22, 2022
Lurker4Long:
Tribute to the late Lt. Col. Dagger, of the SA SF...

Looks like a Belgian Malinois,basically a smaller,slimmer GSD. Their shared heritage gives them characteristics ideal for police work and warfare:
-intelligence
-bravery
-loyalty
-trainability
-energy

For me the ultimate wardog will always be the giant Tibetan mastiff. Bred centuries ago to fight off wolves,bears and leopards a pup with proven lineage can sell for 200k$. They were used by kings,princes and warlords in China,TIbet,India and Nepal as wardogs-they've an infrasound bark that terrifies both predators and omnivores.
Idk if that fur won't be a problem in Africa,though.....

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Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 2:02pm On Sep 20, 2022
MzeeMwenyewe1:
If this bus got an accident half of African problems would have been solved. Am sure Kazi agree grin grin

SIGHHHHH.....apart from the expected estrogen soaked emotion that's an intellectually lazy argument! Tell us who's responsible for the following:
-the global exchange rates
-skewed trading system that keeps us exporting primary products
-transfer pricing
-the oil shocks of 1973.

When answering incorporate how the last development caused massive commodity stagflation still felt today.
I'll wait. Thanks!

Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 12:54pm On Sep 18, 2022
Guys,I told you about Karua didn't I?

Martha Karua, the running mate of Raila Odinga in the August 9, 2022 presidential election, has said she’s contemplating filing a suit at the East African Court of Justice to seek an alternative opinion on the grievances she raised against the IEBC and William Ruto’s victory at the Supreme Court of Kenya.

Karua said she was aware the East African Court of Justice’s decision won’t be binding, or have the ability to change Kenya’s presidency, but would give her the closure she needs.
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001455394/karua-im-considering-taking-our-presidential-suit-grievances-to-east-african-court

Lets rmbr the simplest def:

It’s more accurate to say that people with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) are in love with an idealized, grandiose image of themselves. And they’re in love with this inflated self-image precisely because it allows them to avoid deep feelings of insecurity. But propping up their delusions of grandeur takes a lot of work—and that’s where the dysfunctional attitudes and behaviors come in.
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm

Mind you its not RAO threatening to go to court but her. Why? She simply can't believe people preferred Ruto in a free and open election.
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 5:08pm On Sep 17, 2022
MAN1960:


See all the space only you make use of angry

Exactly, WTF are you again?

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Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 10:03am On Sep 17, 2022
gallivant:


Speaking of electricity... grin


this was 3 yrs ago and while I know there've been challenges of late regarding roll out connectivity should be well over 90% by now.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 7:44am On Sep 17, 2022
Lurker4Long:

There was speculation that he was Somali!

Its as obvious as the afternoon sun on a cloudless day! Nobody else in the world is as simultaneously obsessive,hateful,ignorant and narcissistic as these guys. trust me,I know! Living in an underdeveloped country like Kenya what we take as their typical behaviour patterns are actually undiagnosed developmental disorders.

In Minneapolis, Somalis account for 6 percent of the cityʼs public school population, but make up 17 percent of early childhood special education students who have been labeled as having autism, according to data aggregated by the Minneapolis Public Schools.
[url]https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/scientists-probe-reports-of-somali-autism-cluster//url]

In a geographical area of Stockholm, with a relatively large Somali immigrant population, parents as well as teachers in special schools and staff at habilitation centres have raised concerns over whether children with a Somali background are over-represented in the total group of children with autism..... The prevalence of autistic disorder or PDDNOS was found to be three to four times higher than in the non-Somali group (0.7% vs 0.19%). All children also had learning disability
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23221308_Prevalence_of_autism_in_children_born_to_Somali_parents_living_in_Sweden_A_brief_report

A clinical defintion of autism:
Autism, or autism spectrum disorder (ASD), refers to a broad range of conditions characterized by challenges with social skills, repetitive behaviors, speech and nonverbal communication. According to the Centers for Disease Control, autism affects an estimated 1 in 44 children in the United States today.
[url]https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism#:~:text=Autism%2C%20or%20autism%20spectrum%20disorder,in%20the%20United%20States%20today.[/url]

Its very likely the generations of inbreeding-they've been marrying their first cousins since before they were Muslim. At the same time Somali culture is greatly invested in believing they're the
-bravest
-cleverest
-prettiest
-strongest
in the whole world! Because ofc Allah love them more than everyone else,well,just because.... As such they're habituated to make enemies with not just nearby Habeshas and Kenyans but everyone else within shouting distance of their chicken muscles. They've gotten their narrow dusty arses broken multiple times in battle-imo,only the Pakistanis have been less successful in battle but many are drawn to this fruitless aggression for reasons explained above.
Its extremely important for many Somalis to not only feel superior to be SEEN as superior to Kenyans they insist are beneath them. In the colonial era they even offered to pay higher non native poll tax to be classified as Asiatic!?

The status of the Isaq in Kenya, 1919-36

Virtually without exception all those who wrote of their contacts with the Isaq either in Kenya or in Tanganyika noted their proud, reserved bearing and haughty demeanour towards other East African peoples. The Isaq were indeed strongly convinced that their status was superior to that of other East Africans and they bitterly resented being placed in the same category as the Bantu, whom they perjoratively referred to as 'slaves'. Moreover, such an attitude was encouraged by those government officials who claimed that the Somali were not of African origin and who advised that the Isaq should not be classified as ordinary African natives. For their part, the Isaq refused to be called Africans, or even Somali, if this gave the idea that they came from a part of Africa. Instead, they emphasized that they had either resided or been born at Aden, and that their written language was either English or Arabic. The significance of this claim lay in the fact that from 1839 to 1937 Aden was annexed to British India and its inhabitants were therefore considered to be Asians. But the claim suffered from the fact that verification was impossible due to the absence of documentary evidence, and so, despite Isaq pretensions, they were initially classified as natives.

Pressure from the Isaq in Kenya to be allowed to pay higher poll-tax was almost certainly motivated by their desire to acquire Asiatic status. According to a Provincial Commissioner of the Northern Frontier District (NFD), the Isaq believed

'that Asiatic status would confer, amongst other things, immunity from arrest by African police constables, special accommodation in hospitals and prisons, more favourable treatment in the law courts, and eventually the sharing with the Indians of lands in the "White highland".'
Whether the Isaq ever wanted land is a moot point, but according to Ahamed Nur and M. H. Mattan, two prominent members of the Isaq Association, their aims were to obtain: (1) access to Asian wards in hospitals, which was granted them between 1919 and 1928; (2) Asiatic privileges in jail; (3) an Isaq member on the Legislative Council; (4) the same trading privileges as Indians both in the townships and in the reserves the Somali, for instance, were not allowed to own more than one shop, and trading licences, so they claimed, were sometimes refused them

YES,THESE DEMENTED MOFOS HAPPILY PAID A HIGHER TAX TO THE OYINBO TO BE CLASSIFIED ON A HIGHER RACIAL SCALE-WTF DOES THAT!?

IIRC,I've never met a Somali bantu but I can imagine their biblical suffering. To see real apartheid one need only look at how the Somali bantu population was treated. By the 1990s their numbers reached 1 mn. They were despised on multiple levels-for being Christian,bantu,farmers not pastoralists and ex slaves from Malawi,Mozambique and Tanzania who had been purchased in the 1800s from Zanzibar to work plantations mainly in S Somalia along the Shabelle river.
They're known as the jareerwayne,meaning nappy haired people. A million people reduced to a minor racial characteristic says much much more of racist attitudes than a hundred sociological field reports. During the worst of the famines in the early 90s,Western aid workers were shocked speechless when many starving Somalis would reject assistance from black UN and NGO workers! Even at the point of death they remain true to hardline racism.

Recently everyone was shocked when opposition Somali MP Junat Muhamad publicly called Mombasa security chief a monkey! On live TV!!

https://youtu.be/yaMwdolHOMk

At 5.50! He then repeatedly refused to apologise. There was an interesting writeup on that f'ery.

One of the few perspicacious commentators in our media,Gitau Warigi touched on the episode with insights into Somali sociocultural attitudes.
At first, I absolutely couldn’t believe an African would label a fellow African this way on local television. I had to ask several people who watched the broadcast to confirm that is what Suna East MP Junet Mohamed actually called Coast Regional Commissioner Nelson Marwa.
I can’t quite recall the exact circumstances, other than that it had something to do with Marwa’s ongoing crackdown on drug trafficking at the Coast.
Now, Junet is not Caucasian (White) by any stretch of the imagination. He is as Black and African as we come, with just a stretch of softer hair than the rest of us.
But I can guess where he is coming from. Being Cushitic is fine, but low-rent types like him tend to resort to this “monkey” business whenever they want to insult other Black Africans. Many ethnic Somali people I know will not go there. Not on TV, anyway. But those like Junet can’t resist going down the sewer.

This Junet-style mindset holds this picture of “lofty” Cushites pitted against Bantus like Marwa who rule them in Kenya and about whom they hark to ancient tales of how the latter migrated from Congo, where presumably they were swinging in the forests like apes.
[http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/440808-3818258-12wmal9/index.html][/url]

There is a simple conversational recipe that never fails to madly inflame those with a bogus Cushitic “superiority complex” like Junet. First, gently remind them that they are kinsmen to clans from the only failed state in Africa.
Go on to say that that nation, which has over the years sought to reclaim “lost” provinces in Ethiopia and Kenya, has suffered successive and humiliating military defeats as a result.
Crown it all by reminding them that, as we speak, armies from five different African states, including Kenya and Ethiopia, are stationed inside the Somali state.

These Cushites come from a place of deep darkness and strange pathologies: know that and know peace!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 11:36am On Sep 15, 2022
CrateofBeer:


It's Kenya bro grin, you shouldn't expect something serious

What do you mean EXACTLY?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 11:09pm On Sep 14, 2022
NTSA:

This war will continue for years... the question we should ask ourselves is what will be the endgame for russia geo-politically?

Putin said it's not a war but a Special Military Operation to degrade the J/Uke's war fighting capacity til they cease to be a threat to Russia with their unmannerly screeching about joining NATO and similar aggravating dycknoise.
It's not new: Zelensky's tribe and related Caucasoid Neanderthals have been externalising their innate, possibly genetically encoded aggression against others from the get go.
I might expound tomorrow.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 10:57pm On Sep 14, 2022
GreenOris:
uncle kikuyu1, i have been waiting earnestly to hear what you have to say about auntie eli's death, but like you are waiting for the right moment.
What have you too say about her reign?

WOW! An open ended question I'll try to summarise the main points. Tbh, I can't find an EFF to give not even one! Why should I? She embodied a ishystem that resource raped and literally enslaved entire continents while unknown to many non Brits solidified long standing domestic class structures into a caste system.
Many say it was Thatcher with her neoliberal policies responsible for this but no: the UK has always been poor predicated upon a strict hierarchy. Earlier last century and even before the society was composed of a tiny middle class made up of shop keepers and the domestic employees of the upper classes with a stupendously wealthy nobility/aristocracy atop it all. Everyone else was referred to by a peculiar Britishism as the 'Deserving Poor.'


Poor people who are incapable of providing for themselves and thus seen as legitimate recipients of charity. antonym ▲

These guys were the sharp end of the colonial project; the privates and Corporals at Rorke's drift,the Somme, El Alamein and Burma. They were paid a pittance and their pensions were laughable: however they were the biggest believers of propaganda and therefore knew their place.
Btw, I've seen it written but can't find the link US soldiers were paid 2.5x higher. A saying developed when they were stationed there: " they're oversexed, over paid and over here!"
These guys first saw indoor plumbing in Germany after the war. They were shocked that their similar Wehrmacht counterparts had such luxuries reserved for their upper classes. I rmbr my dad telling me a Brit buddy now late 70s first ate beef at age 15!? His fam could only afford fish. IIRC, there were 3 kids and dad was a train driver.
It's always been poor for the most part. Even today most towns anywhere in the UK have a near identical rundown look. These pix could be Luton, Essex, Liverpool or large parts of London. Germany, Belgium or Holland are def NOT nearly so effed up.

Let me sign off with this:

In Britain, the rich are richer but the poor far poorer than in Europe

[url]https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/25/in-britain-the-rich-are-richer-but-the-poor-far-poorer-than-in-europe/url]

But no one should be happy with the fact that our poorest households have to survive on incomes a staggering 20% lower than those across the Channel (£14,700 v £18,500). That means higher poverty, lower living standards and no margin when things go wrong, such as a pandemic hitting.

She didn't make the ishytstem but undoubtedly profited immensely from it. If she tried to change anything I stand corrected.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 7:58pm On Sep 14, 2022
Lurker4Long:
grin grin grin

Actually those were Donetsk militia units who withdrew not Russian army guys. Yes, the J/Ukes have recaptured 3 k km2 around Kharkov. I've looked though and haven't found evidence of a comprehensive Russian defeat.
Pix of POWs and KIA are absent- pls correct me if I'm wrong but even the pro Zelensky sites had NOTHING on this.
Looking deeper I wonder if the Russian brass didn't simply order a withdrawal based on their lack of casualties. Was it a feint to draw in the enemy and flank
and ultimately encircle them in what they call a fire/sack/trap?
Question is can Zelensky's boys, lightly armed as they are hold on to the area? Their logs bases are still at least 40 k out making support difficult. Also autumn is coming soon followed by winter. In a month temps will fall to 0 Celsius and by mid Nov the average is minus 5-10 til early Feb. Again, what will the J/Uke forces do if Russians simply rely on their arty/UAV and air superiority to surround them and wait them out?
Imo, the situation will resolve itself one way or the other by early October.

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