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Is this the brain (brawn) behind EFCC's constant harassment of people who carry laptops in public? I hope he's gone for re-training to acquire more subtle crime prevention techniques + respect for human rights. I wish him well. |
Ok. So it's now confirmed that those people killed a member of their own church. Very Sad. |
wesley80:LOL I read those comments, it made me forget my Country's problems for a minute, SA's are angry. Funny mad. |
The president is behaving like agama lizard who fell from an iroko without hurting and started praising itself ![]() Very funny mental picture, very apt though. |
Has GEJ acquired new sets of friends on Facebook since the subsidy issue? SA just gave the man a new bounce with this Deportation row. If he's smart he'll milk it to the fullest. I see he's doing that already. Few things sell a politician better than Nationalistic "fights" like this especially if the opponent is a Foreign country ![]() |
"Right now, no one can tell you exactly how much of our crude is extracted from our soil," said Orji Ogbonnaya Orji, who sits on the board of directors of NEITI. "We depend on records from the oil companies. That clearly has to change."This kain information suppose make pesin cry for hin Country. ![]() |
@Amor4ce, there is nothing wrong with truth seeking or historical research, I was just sounding a note of caution based on my experiences with these types of research and tenuous linkages. I can see you get my point also. Please do continue in your quest, I'll be glad if you can find those links and sufficiently prove them ("sufficient" there is objective but at least it's something) it will add to the body of historical knowledge. So keep at it bro. |
Hmmm. Interesting thread. |
^ Iyalode, Feisty much? ![]() But the majority are not even deciding things here. How can we make that better? Anyway I really don't mind Monarchy as long as the kings can sign a release to drink poison every 5 years. We don't want a possible lunatic ruling forever and No, they can't handover to their sons. Daughters maybe ![]() |
I see these attempts to link Yoruba or black African religion to the Jews as a cop out, an admission that we cannot stand alone by ourselves. I see nothing spectacular in the judeo-Christian beliefs that I cannot find parrallels for in my Yoruba religion. Except for the idea of "protelyzation" which might not be a value worth emulating if you consider the negative effects of such in-your-face practice. As an African researcher, If I have the gift, I'll rather spend more time looking into unique practices within my own culture than trying to find some sort of linkages with Judaism or middle eastern religion. Now if my research lead me to such a link, then I'll accept, but I won't go looking for it. @ptolomeus, I just saw your question, pastor AIO is way more knowledgable than I am on that topic, his answer tie in with the information I have. If I get more insight, I'll share. |
If you can't read all of bagehot's post up there, please read this quote: The new Nigerian "intellectuals" (the type that sport motivational speaking gigs on the week-end, mostly pentecostal christians and often work in consulting, banking or energy) by contrast talk too damn much and do too little.This is a great observation. It's like contemporary Nigeria ( by my definition, Nigerian of the last 20 years) is afflicted with characters like this. It's largely an American Pentecostal import mixed with our own cultural beliefs and an unhealthy overdose of Pop-motivational literature. It's a dangerous combo really. But the mindset is not limited to those people. It's very Common across all classes. Less common among people 65 and up. These are just my personal observations. Anyway back to topic. |
a country where most they sell Sharp Cutlasses, Axes and other murder-able weapons in Hold ups,This got me ROFL. Oh well |
kodewrita:This is interesting. Kinda put my almost 1 year old location signature into perspective really. Kodewrita, this system, what is the guarantee that people will make this smart choice on the basis of a leaders past performance? Do you think there is some other mechanism we can add to "force" this informed choice? It's really a bummer to see people ignore a leaders glaring incompetence (based on past performance ) and then choose them again for the same or higher office. If we can systemize this idea and put it into auto mode, it might solve some of the problems identified in this research . |
Regional governments, with more control over their own resources and revenue, with a weaker central democratic government. Each region could implement its own version of local goverment and resource sharing, similar to the current LGA. The North already has Sharia - other regions could do the same and traditionalise their democracy, but with more economic teeth.This seem like a popular opinion among relatively educated Nigerians, I did not do a formal survey so I'm not certain. But I often wonder how an effective political and social campaigner can sell this ideas to Nigerians. Those currently with economic and political power won't like it, so the key will be how to get the mass of the people to support such an idea. That brings up one of the fundamental questions asked by the topic IMO: Do the mass of our people have the capacity to recognize these "good " idea? Or do they need it taught to them or forced down their throat? |
Ekt_bear yes, I know pragmatism is desirable. Ok. At this stage, it appears the majority opinion agree that Democracy is not the only viable option, certainly not the only option for a country like ours. We also seem to have an agreement on the need for deep structural changes So which one will come first? These changes or the leadership? What is the best approach? |
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=887083.msg10338338#msg10338338 date=1331015986]India honestly is not really a country I admire. It is just basically Nigeria. Second, despite having many ethnic groups, they have some national things that unite them (the Hindi language, Hinduism), and have been united to some extent by history (previous empires on the sub-continent, struggling against Pakistan, etc.) Nigeria on the other hand. . . just some big piece of land the British conquered and smushed together.[/quote]This reminds me of my conclusions on that "Corruption not Nigerias bane" thread from early 2011 I like Aigbofa's optimism though, I kinda share it, only if we can get the structure right. Only if. |
Bittyend, your 1979 election example and by extension this research ( at least in the context of Nigerian Democracy) raises the question again; Did the people actually vote for the leaders that emerged ? If not, Can we blame them for a leadership that wasn't their choice? |
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=887083.msg10338156#msg10338156 date=1331014271]In addition to this average intelligence assumption implicit in democracy, I suspect that democracy is less effective in ethnically diverse countries like Nigeria. The US for example would probably be a pretty much worse country if there were three significant ethnic groups rather than just one powerful clan (essentially WASPs and those co-opted by them.) On the other hand, I suspect that a LKY sort of figure wouldn't work in Nigeria either if he came from one of the 3 major ethnic groups. And probably wouldn't work if from a minority group either. . .[/quote]This is very depressing. |
I think the issue of competent leadership has less to do with what your profession is. A veterinary doctor with a smart mind and good leadership qualities should be able to head the defense ministry. Now I'll admit there are some ministries that might require professionals within the field. Maybe Finance, but I believe leadership require more of your ability to put competent and qualified people to work under you and in their field and less of your own expertise in that field. |
OAM4J:Number 3. Is a very important point to note. Afterall, one cannot blame a people for their choice of leadership ( dumb or smart) if they are not allowed to participate in that process. |
OAM4J:Ok. So what is different about the way we selected leaders then and the way we select them now? It seemed people chose better leaders then, albeit regionally, but now, even the regional political leaders ( reps, govs, senate etc) are terrible choices imo. Were people just smarter pre-1966 ? Or our present predicament is all because of the military Mis-adventure? |
Bittyend I posted before I saw your last comment. But can we adopt that chinese model? Remember our ethnic, language and cultural issues. Ok I see you suggested a kind of confederacy along ethnic lines. I'll welcome that, but remember these confederate units have to choose their leaders too. What method will you recommend? |
bittyend:I know Americans don't particularly rate their politicians high when it comes to job approval, but I doubt they want to change their system for say the hybrid type of socialism like they have in China. They preety much prefer their system to most other ones around, I presume. So maybe they are just too dumb to choose well or it's simply working well for them The question now is what can work for us? What system can we practice to guarantee a better leadership selection practice than our current system. Do we need a new homegrown system? Any ideas on what the system should look like? During the last election, some political parties practiced a hybrid election/selection process. Do you think this is a good method? can we remove some of its flaws and improve on it? If possible. |
@Ekt_bear yes, some people consider Lee Kuan Yew a benvolent Dictator, an oxymoron really. In china's case, Maybe Chairman Mao (too brutal though) preferably Deng Xiaoping. @Beaf, Do you really think Nigerians are inherently averse to discipline? I'm not so sure that is correct, I must confess I see your point about the price me might have to pay. |
Ok, Ekt-bear and Negro, Beaf too (is he's not too busy looking up funny Tinubu gifs )Do you guys think the Chinese model is better? As in, better than leaving things at the mercy of the masses, where you might have millions of "dumb" people choosing a leader? Can we say the Chinese Central Committe and the National Peoples Congress are Intelligent organizations? A pool of political brainiacs entrusted with the power to elect a smart leader? Is the Chinese Model better than this American/Roman Model of election? My opinion is not expressed above, I'm just asking questions. |
Readers, please beware and watchout for Sagamite. . . I predict the dude will go into a joyous epileptic fit at the sight of this topic ![]() |
Their (democracies) advantage over dictatorships or other forms of government is merely that they "effectively prevent lower-than-average candidates from becoming leaders"I'm embarassed to admit that my country may not even meet this low threshhold with the kind of leaders we've managed to produce. But I'll offer an excuse, technically we are not a democracy, we are loosely a dictatorship, an Oligarchy. So maybe it's not our fault, yet ![]() |
This is terrible. So Sad. |
A liaison office in Lagos is an absurd idea, one of those stupid legacies of past Military days these fooools in civilian clothes won't let go of. . Even If it costs N10 to build, It's stupid. I'll rather spend the money fixing part of the road from Ado to Lagos. This better be false. |
PhysicsQED made me ROFL with those pics. ![]() Git Oyel money ![]() |
Men and women have not evolved yet to adapt to the new relationship rebalancing of women being financially independent and sex being blasted at us left, right and centre by the decadent liberals.MINT! |
Is this militant MEND or Political MEND ? |
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