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Pope Xander VII: Why is Scorpionking being Demonized? He made some very good Points. West Africa has always been Some-what developed, we had the Benin Kingdom and several others in West-Africa.So you are all knowing about Africa's pre-colonial development even though it has been poorly excavated. 5 years ago nobody though African had the wheel until old pics had to be dug up by historians. Pope Xander VII: The Only Problem was that we were cut off from other Parts of the World, most importantly China. West Africa would have been at the same level of advancement as the West and South east Asia. if we started intercontinental Trading Early.Have you not heard of the trans-saharan trade routes? |
Arosa: About a hundred years ago the north of Nigeria was more civilized than the southern part but why is it that the reverse is the case today? I tell you why, it's their so called "high self-esteem"In what way was the north more civilized? Because they had mud roofs? ![]() |
Also, what about the hair on this person:
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KidStranglehold: Wrong...The San people were not the early people and West Africans and other Africans do NOT descend from them. They just carry some of the oldest clades like Y-DNA haplogroup A in high frequencies. But even so there are other Africans that carry much other clades. San/Khoisans just share a common ancestor with other Africans. But the earliest Africans lived in East Africa and were not San/Khoisan.So can you explain this picture? Also I've heard somewhere the San people aren't from southern Africa, but somewhere north due to the presence of a Khoisan group in Tanzania and "San-like people" in the Sahara.
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Too Many slaves on this thread regurgitating what their colonial education system has taught them. This is exactly what the op is talking about. Don't speak just watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_09O9BVGpw |
[quote author=tpia@]@ thread title: you need education to build this: https://www.dotwnews.com/uploads/posts/sheratononelarge.jpg[/quote]Africans used to be able to build this until "education" came:
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The OP is non-Islamic Boko HaramRead the Op's entry again 'bout enhancing knowledge base . African knew the earth and the universe was round and had superior metallurgy tech until the 19th century. |
[quote author=Kay-Dee]The white man practices the same education and is putting it to good use. Even with all the oil in Texas, they have very large farms and are producing food, same cannot be said of our dear Nigeria. Did the so called white man teach us to use education in a different way ?[/quote]White man taught africa that the earth was flat and taught the dogons sirius B didn't exist. He sure seems to be putting his knowledge to good use ,huh? |
[quote author=baby-boy]Look Civilisation started in Egypt, (Acts 7:22 And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians) but am sorry Civilisation was taken towards the east into old Europe. Tell me how can a white man give an African King a mirror in exchange for diamonds? [/quote]Show us where this map indicates civilization went east
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PocketEconomist: Okay. That's the Japanese story. I want you to find and read this book The China story. Why don't we replicate such in Nigeria? For example, the federal government can make it a goal of training 2000 specialised doctors abroad every year, set up and ultra modern lab in conjunction with private sector shared 60-40 and renumerate them reasonably, within ten years ceteris paribus, you have 20,000 specialist doctors in various fields, world class specialist hospital, and medical tourists would flood the country. That's just an idea among others looking at the india story.Seems possible only if Nigeria had a Nkrumah, Lumumba or Gaddafi in government whom has extensive knowledge of western motives and african culture like they did. Also decentralization of the government or complete break up might stabilize the region and open up such an opportunity. Right now I have little faith in the current leaders to do such a thing so a complete overhaul of societal beliefs and goals might do some good. |
PocketEconomist: Good points, but you shouldn't have called me a fool. We are all learning and nobody knows everything, as i've learnt something from your post. However, let us ask, were the chinese taught by the west? Don't think so. They copied what they saw and replicated it, although their goods were inferior at first, they improved. I also think we should do same. Copy aod paste, as we have the financial muscle to do so. Good day.Apologies for the insult. There is just too much misinformation spreading around the internet in general that it just becomes frustrating since we live in the age of information and there are numerous books in libraries talking about pre-colonial african technology. On the Chinese issue, i'll admit, I don't know much about how they industralized ( i'll look into it). you may need to consult Rossike, Physics, cap28 and a few other since they may know more than me. However I do know Japan (and south korea, I think) seeked direct help from the europeans: The industrial revolution began about 1870 as Meiji period leaders decided to catch up with the West. The government built railroads, improved roads, and inaugurated a land reform program to prepare the country for further development. It inaugurated a new Western-based education system for all young people, sent thousands of students to the United States and Europe, and hired more than 3,000 Westerners to teach modern science, mathematics, technology, and foreign languages in Japan (O-yatoi gaikokujin). In 1871 a group of Japanese politicians known as the Iwakura Mission toured Europe and the USA to learn western ways. The result was a deliberate state led industrialisation policy to enable Japan to quickly catch up. The Bank of Japan, founded in 1877, used taxes to fund model steel and textile factories. Education was expanded and Japanese students were sent to study in the west. Modern industry first appeared in textiles, including cotton and especially silk, which was based in home workshops in rural areas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution#Japan Note: African kings were known to sent their kids to western unverities too. |
PocketEconomist: oh seriously... so why is there no industrialization. isn't it the same laziness? or intellectual lazinessNo fool! It's because of this... The crucial need for industrialisation was acknowledged even in pre-colonial times: Some African rulers sought to be taught Western technology rather than import Western goods. In Ethiopia, Lebna Dengel in the seventeenth century and Tewodros in the nineteenth century wrote to European rulers for assistance in industrialisation. In the eighteenth century King Agaja Trudo of Dahomey thought the best way of stopping the slave trade was to industrialise west Africa with European help. Opoku Ware of Asante in the nineteenth century also tried to innovate industrially. In each case, Europe refused to help On a education systems that did not encourage production, sadly this is still the case today: Cultural Westernisation was promoted more vigorously than genuine technological modernisation. The French policy of cultural assimilation helped to keep the so-called 'modern' sector under French control even after independence. Colonial schools generally were transmitters of Western culture rather than transmitters of Western technical skills. Brilliant graduates were best at Shakespeares but almost never potential Einsteins or potential Edisons or Graham Bells. http://africaunchained..ca/2013/06/the-west-versus-africas-industrial.html |
Obi1kenobi: People can post all they want about ancient Egyptian civilization thousands of years ago. The fact remains since the turn of the post-AD era, Africa and the black race are several generations behind the rest of the world. We're a conquered, colonized people who were feeble in the face of European and Arab conquest. They arrived here with barely a few footsoldiers with blazing guns and we capitulated to their might and even sold our people to slavery. Western culture is a dynamic one that always looks to evolve and improve itself. Always looking to explore. Always looking to innovate. African culture is a stagnant, naive, insular culture. It's why the colonial powers caught us napping in our mud huts, oblivious to the rest of the world - unable to even explore the world with our dug canoes. All we can do is cry about how the evil Europeans subdued and subjugated us. Even though we're just as evil. We just lacked their firepower, ingenuity, resourcefullness and boundless ambition.African mud huts
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. African knew the earth and the universe was round and had superior metallurgy tech until the 19th century.