₦airaland Forum

superstar1:
Answer the question yourself, once you can connect the dots of Islamic caliphate and Biafra.

Simple; The mohammedian Emirates of the North and Biafra are foundationally two incompatible dialectic materials in the matrix. Rope them together, you create the dialectic which outcome is the "dystopia". Do I make any sense to you?. Believe me, I can connect a lot of dots.

TRUTHTOPOWER:
Do not take mine comment as a justification for the tragedies of Civil war. I hate wars! Having said that, it is apposite to warn fellow Nigerians of the dangers inherent in your remarks about how some countrymen see Nigerians and Nigeria as a whole. Every tribe value dignity of labour no more and no less than the other. It is just insensitive to claim superioty over another person who may have content to abide by his own norms and differing to others in the conduct of his affairs.

Awo was in jail some leaders were killed and some were allegedly celebrating for their good fortune in the mysterious Calamities. Sir, everything that transpired call for sober reflection and not groundstanding. On the part of igbo, it was far too much. I am from the west but I must in good conscience concede the price igbo nation had to pay for the decision taken by their kinsfolk at the front line. I regret that Nigerian leaders allowed such a calamity to happen at that time.

Does the foregoing justify the animus in your remark.No! Why because a remark like this just like Chinua achebes account inspires nothing but hostilities. If you do not know, stableland is a precious commodity in the emerging world. Judging by communical clashes and litigation overland, the struggle for separation by a group with limited territory will be a mere battle in a continous war of survival. this at least is the lesson we are learning in Israel/Palestine debacle. We have also learn that as in the middle east, peace will be turned into its grimmest image.

Now think about it why would you hate or detest any Nigerian on the account of the mistakes of the past? What have you done to correct those mistakes given the little power at your disposal? You have done little or nothing? why! because you don't know that the mistakes are contemporaneous or simultaneous in nature. How? the experience of tribal wars made the federating units to be mutually suspicious of each other. for that reason a honest indiscretion would trigger a sincere counter act. the "respondent' party would be be inclined to take further measures to prevent recurrence.

All these acts and counter acts taking place in atmosphere of suspicion would have debilitating effect on citizens who cheerlead the the keyplayers to do more. They act like fans of football clubs.

Today, I cannot believe Awo only for the reason that he was a Yoruba man. I may understand him more than I understand others because of shared history. I can understand his plight after independence were his contemporaries were enjoying. Nevertheless, I cannot feign ignorance of the survival instinct that impels us to act one way or the other against anyone who appear as a threat to what we genuinely hold dear.

In effect, if these leaders were properly guided by the colonial powers who forced them into a political marriage, they would have kept the peace. Today, I salute them all without exception because what they did in transforming their domains clearly demonstrated that they could have done better nationally if the time were more auspicious.

In conclusion, Nigeria is at the threshold of a new era. we have witnessed democratic revolution. It is not a time invoke separatism as a ideal of social justice. Why, because the agenda is defined: economy, security and employment. it is not a time to preempt this agenda only because of the support base. lets judge by facts and figures. Let us see if the average Nigerian has greater opportunity of becoming the best in himself or herself. If your joy comes from the satisfaction that your kinsman or co worshiper is at the helm of affairs, I salute your absolute parochialism. For those of us whose allegiance must be won by positive the impact of good governance, even filial obligation cannot be a close substitute. When you translate this to the GEJ/GMB scenario. The clock of change cannot tick faster. I am eager to align with the man who built refineries than the one what excuse not to maintain one. I am eager to align with a man who instilled discipline than the one who allowed impunity in the name of rule of law. law is no law if it does not oblige obedience. I aligned with fresh air of GEJ because I believed he could speak truth to power. This revolution is not just about what GMB could do or what he has done but it is about what GEJ failed to do or wasted time in doing. For being able to remove GEJ, GMB has achieved something. making progress is another thing. it is in the interest of the common man for GMB to succeed where GEJ. for all the failures of GEJ he remains a financially comfortable person. so if GMB fails he will be likewise comfortable. so he must succeed in the interest of the common man.

Mr. man, I feel your emotions to see a great transformed Nigeria. Igbos are individually and collectively willing to pay the ultimate price for a great transformed Nigeria, but they have looked into the crystal ball and realized that it's no more attainable because of precisely your line of thinking. Why we Africans are intellectually and physically lazy to confront complex problems , I cannot explain. Do you in your wildest imagination think those agendas will work without the laborious enthronement of both intellectual and physical political structural building bits of blocks that firstly address the destruction of the Nigerian lifes by forces of fulani herdsmen and bokoharam and other extreme vices that are foundational and structural. You see my bro, l have truly come to terms that their are core difference in reasoning and logic between Yorubas and Igbos based on their different cultural heritage and experience. We are waiting to see how a mere closing of ranks between south west and core North will mutate into providing a foundational and structural responsive solutions to the complex national problems characterized by the above two definitions of what the problems are.

superstar1:
they are 2 different incidents. The only connecting dot here is secession.

I told you, 'you may not able to connect the dots'...is secession foundational to the 2 different incidents?.

AnambraDota:
Nobody is behind those hate mongering except the Zulus on Southern Nigeria, they are everywhere calling for disaster and hate against Igbos but they won't challange a Fulani man that call the Kaffirs.
Their kings want Igbos death, their intellectuuals want igbos destroyed, their youth are singing disaster to igbos because they covetous people who are obsessed about others properties.

They tell you tell will take over your houses when Biafra is actualize to show you they are no different from the Zulus in SA who can't stand a whiteman but will fight a blackman.

These zulus of Nigeria with their lagoon drunk bribe collector called king lilwayne is an inferior muslim, a cripple gambari worth more than him in a mosque

My sister, a slavishly expressions of positions in critical issues by this same group are extremely very shameful. Could you imagine, a slavishly reactions upon the Igbos if they were herdsmen masacaring human beings daily unhindered. A weighted reactions from this group to the two tribes actions as it effect the country sociopolitical and economic advancement will nakedly reveal to you the depth of this slavishlyness.

superstar1:
Pazienza let us discuss the topic objectively because it is a lovely write up that is intellectually sound enough for informative discussion.

Drop all your grandstanding and let us discuss this objectively.

If you want the thread to go down the hill, we shall gladly oblige you. I can't shout.

My friend, believe me or NOT, you don't have enough intellectual capacity to discuss this topic objectively and informatively, and 'I am being arrogant about this'. Your points have already betrayed your biases.

superstar1:
Wonderful write up but 2 key things are critically missing :

1. He brushed over the incidence of Jan 1966 as if it was a none issue. Maybe, he did not understand the import of that singular action that spiralled out of control because he is not a Nigerian.

2. He also failed to disclose his blossoming friendship with Zik in this write up, in the spirit of objectivity. There is no way most of what he wrote would not have been based on hearsays of Zik. It took several diplomatic trips for Zik to convince Nyerere to recognise the new country and it was even done on friendship basis. He would have been fair enough to tell us in his write up that Zik was his very good friend.

Which ever way the above points you've pointed out is pointing to has been invalidated and at the same vindicated the Igbos by boko haram and all it stand for as regards to Igbo quest for self preservation. That's if you can objectively connect the dots here.

Sweetguy25:
Time to split this useless country.

"Nigerians who do not believe in the mysterious ways of GOD", this Nigeria tragedy is as a result of Biafran innocent children and women killed in order to sustain an "UNGODLY" entity . 'Simple Question', How will this end ultimately?. Another simple question, if a suicide bomber who wants to kill mass of people, if acquired the ultimate weapons of mass destruction, will he or she use it?. And the final question. Can such weapons be acquired by one way or another in our extremely complex world today?. My own thought; I *think* that Nigeria could be in initial phase of extinction protocols. A picture worth more than a thousand words. "Let the Biafrans go, and the protocols might...........".

pyyxxaro:
They say when a man is in love , a new mumu is born

My governor please if you wanna last , ignore her when she starts saying baby harder ,harder , harder , harder

He is just renting her.

3kay945:
Is this combination legal!

in some countries, this kind of combination is absolutely illegal, only in nigeria do you have beauty & the beast, evil & good, light and darkness melted down to the point of no seperation.

NewNigeriaMind:
Let me indulge you a little

1 So assuming the north reach out to the SS/SE, the two will jump at it just to spite the SW?

2 Also, buy giving their ass to APC north to Bleep, what will the SE/SS gain from it?

3 When you say betray, please clarify this statement. who betrayed who and was there any agreement amongst the SS/SS and SW?

4 Why are you offering yourselves to the North on a platter of gold just to get back at the SW?

Now this is what I think?

I think the SS/SE are so desperate for power they will allow the North to use them to reduce south west infleucne while at the same time giving noting to the SS/SE. The SS/SE are suppose to lead the new opposition, but with the way things are going, these people may soon decamp to APC, cause those northerns are not coming to PDP.

so can we conclude that out of hate which is unjustified anyway the SS/SE will do all it can just to bring the SW down even if the north has nothing to offer them

If any of you Igbos come here to mention south solidarity or northern born to rule God will punish you all

These Igbos in the past four years monopolized Jonathan they forgot the SW, now they are shouting SW betrayed them. Na God go punish all of you

My friend, your are a little bit behind somewhat. You will never ever hear the SE/SS speaking on 'southern solidarity or northern born to rule'. As yorubas have exhausted their betray space on the south through the 2015 presidential election, the new narrative for the SS/SE is solidarity to balance out the new political reality at best or seceding at worst. It will be no more business at usual. SS have woken up, the north knows that born to rule mentality is unsustainabile, the SW has exhausted their betray space and the SE nationalism has shifted gear.

Ochiske:
This Ohanaeze of a group be acting up too much!
With all due respect to my Igbo brothers and Sisters, (I've got lots of Igbo friends so no human should quote me and talk shiiit ).

This Igbo group and their demands are too much
Always making noise everyday
Did they support Buhari in becoming president? NO! Yet they feel they should bw in charge of everything

All they keep on seeking is for their 'son(s) or daughter(s) to be in power forgetting that these same persons wont bring development to them one bit!!!!
A case scenerio is Abia state! They wont compel Orji to develop Abia but they'll seek recognition under a govt they NEVER supported!!!!!!!!

When their so called 'Azikiwe' brother was in charge, didnt he marginalize other tribes

What did he do for the Southwest? Nothing!
The Northeast was under attack by Boko Haram yet they never threatened to secede!

Nigeria's economy is failing! Things are running on the low yet what these Mofo's know is political positions and crap
Isnt it an Igbo woman that is our finance Minister? What good are we enjoying?

For 6years, my state, Cross River didnt receive any benefit from the Jonathan led Fg! All our federal roads are nothing to write home about! Not even a single Fg project in CRS! Even the Calabar port was abandoned Yet we didnt threaten to secede out of Nigeria!

These Igbo's should please and please again SHUT UP!
Where them wan secede go? where will their international border be? Do they want to become a sovereign state inside another sovereign state?

Last I checked, the Igbo states are surrounded by The Ijaws, Ibibio's, Efiks and others! Abi them want follow force us inside them?

Let them come and carve themselves out of Nigeria na let us see shebi na independence them want
They cant even develop their main Igbo land (Abia State) they desire to create a country, develop and maintain it!

Bullshiiit x10
Bunch of Red cap money seeking old men

My friend, he's not talking about Igbos being in charge of every thing, but about the general marginalisation of Igbos and restructuring through the implementation of the recommendations of the national conference which will also benefit the SW.

Abayhormy:
mumu, Did i tell you i'm ND, or Kalabari ? I've NEVER hidden my identity. You can even tell from my name here on NL. Go and read my previous posts. You are the one that is "Hidding" to spread falsehood. the social media or sites like NL can be used to spread falsehood about tribes just as i still strongly suspect you are doing. Whatever it is, Changing government because of series of shortcomings and incompetencies should not be a reason for renewed hatred for others and moves of secession.

JOnathan misrepresented you people, Simple. You guys are supposed to direct your grievance to him, had it been you guys are objective like the Yorubas. The Yorubas were the greatest critics of Obasanjo. He is not even loved in His home town that much. Tinubu Fought Him, to the extent that he seized the allocation of Tinubu's administration for years.

EVEN IF YOU GUYS SECEDE AND YOU MAKE PEOPLE LIKE JONATHAN AND HIS COHORTS YOUR LEADERS, YOU WILL STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM NIGERIA IS HAVING NOW. Moreso, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE AN ISSUE OF ETHNIC DIVISION, TUSSLE and DOMINANCE/ SUPERIORITY TUSSLE IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD EVEN between IGBOS and OTHER TRIBES OF THE ND EVEN IF YOU SECEDE. So i don't see why you guys are not being objective with this issue of recently concluded elections.

Once again, GOOD-LUCK to Biafra.

It's the Yorubas ( not all) that have, for some in explainable reasons failed to see the situation on the ground for what it is. It could be cos Igbos extensive migrationary nature and most yoruba living comfortably in their SW zones are responsible for these extreme positions on Nigeria tragic reality. Yes, there will be ethnic tussle, Divisions and etc, but what will not be obtainable is a situation of fulani herdsmen killing and burning Christian towns and villages, boko haram, culture of impunity etc

ProfessorPeter:
South South and Southeast will join hands with Buhari to punish Yoruba for betraying us. Interesting days ahead

Hmmmm....... "Yorubas", you guys better play your slavishly role well, well with your slave masters up North, cos you don't have SE/SS to fall on when the shit hits the fan. You've used up your betrayal space.

oluks05:
Lola Young, Baroness Young of Hornsey

Lola Young, Baroness Young of Hornsey,
OBE (born Margaret Omolola Young, 1 June
1951) is a British actress, author, and
Crossbench peer.[1]
Education and career
Young was educated at the Parliament Hill
School for Girls in London and went then to the
New College of Speech and Drama, where she
received a diploma in dramatic art in 1975,
and a teaching certificate one year later. In
1988 she graduated from Middlesex
Polytechnic with a Bachelor of Arts in
Contemporary Cultural Studies.
Young worked as a professional actress from
1976 to 1984, and had been a residential
social worker in the London Borough of
Islington from 1971 to 1973. Her most
prominent role as an actress was in children's
sitcom Metal Mickey which ran from 1980 to
1983. In 1985, she became co-director and
training and development manager at the
Haringey Arts Council, a post she held until
1989.
From 1990 to 1992, Young was lecturer in
media studies at the Polytechnic of West
London. In the following she was lecturer,
senior lecturer, principal lecturer, Professor of
cultural studies and in the end Emeritus
professor at the Middlesex University. In 1995
she published Fear of the Dark: Race, Gender
and Sexuality in Cinema.
Young became Project director of the Archives
and Museum of Black Heritage in 1997, she
was Commissioner in the Royal Commission on
Historical Manuscripts in the years 2000 and
2001, and Chair at Nitro Theatre Company in
2004.
Young was appointed an Officer of the Order of
the British Empire (OBE) in the 2001 New Year
Honours.[2]
From 2001 to 2004 she was head of culture at
the Greater London Authority, following which
she was created a life peer on 22 June 2004
taking the title Baroness Young of Hornsey
of Hornsey in the London Borough of Haringey.
[3]
Other public appointments have included
English Heritage’s Blue Plaques Committee,
membership of the board of the Royal National
Theatre, the South Bank Centre, and the board
of Governors of Middlesex University, chairing
the Arts Council’s Cultural Diversity Panel, and
membership of the board of Resource, the
Council of Museums, Archives and Libraries,
and a commissioner on the Royal Commission
on Historical Manuscripts. She has also chaired
the judging panel of the Orange Prize for
Fiction.[4]
She takes an active interest in ethical issues in
international trade, particularly the garment
industry ,[5][6] is a Trustee of the Aid by Trade
Foundation[7] and is an honorary associate of
the National Secular Society.[8]

Personal life
Lady Young of Hornsey has been married to
Barrie Birch since 1984; they have one son.

Is she by any chance related to Obasanjo?

Mcowubaba:
i don't think anybody is scared of Biafra.....its just normal for non igbos not to support biafra....
Lemme give an example..in ur village, if a reasonable nd industrious group of people say the don't want to be part of ur village again, i don't think those that don't share the same idealogies with those people will support them... Truth be told Igbos leaving Nigeria will affect alot of things, from population to economy..Igbo is not a minority group; the are a Major Ethnic group(with Hausa nd Yoruba)..if u get Messi, Ronaldo nd Hazard or Aguero for ur team working 2geda doing well, nd 1 day Ronaldo say he wan comot, omo nobody go happy, dat synergy is missing......same with is also applicable with other tribes
..United we stand..

so restructure, justice equity and fairness so that Ranaldo will be playing with the team spirit.

wadetaw202:
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The only tribe that tribalism can destroy in Nigeria is the Igbo tribe. You are always the ones to start promoting tribalism. And when others respond to you in like manners, you start crying and playing victims as if you were innocent all along. Kaduna nzeogwu and other eastern soldiers killed sadauna of sokoto and northern soldiers. No Igbo was shouting then. But when the northerners turned against you people, you started crying blue murder. I'm very certain you Igbo's were the ones that derided the south Africans and this prompted them to start killing your people. Bit now, younare all crying like victims as if you did not do anything to prompt the attacks. You igbos are always playing victims.

And for your information, there is no gully erosion in my region. But gully erosion is part of the resources in igboland. Yes, we will burn your shops and cast younto gully erosion if you push is further. It will only take one night. Nobody can save you from our hands; the same way no one can save you from Dr. Ariyo's hands. Useless tribe.

My brother, you be real mumuoo for Nigerian history. Hasn't boko haram and fulani herdsmen savagery killing spree which is based on extreme tribalism and extreme religious intorence vindicated the Igbos on the primary root cause of the aforementioned pogrom which eternally lies on the killing nature of the mohammedian Emirates of the North?. And how much much longer will it take the yoruba logic to connect these dots?. Has Igbo tribalism more dangerous than the ones killing others to express their tribalism and religious intorence. My brother, only cowards and mumu human beings that cannot connect these dots in logic.

wadetaw202:
This shows that Igbo's are the worst tribe on earth. You even to to the extent of pretending as if you are not Igbo. Shame on the mother that gave birth to you. And for your information, we have already settled that issue of brown roof here on nairaland. Every region including your gully-erosion region has brown roof. So, look for something else to abuse. Because when you say brown roof, you are also abusing yourself. How come the oil on your 3 states are not being exploited? Because the profit doesn't worth the effort.. Eeediot. And always keep this in mind: you Igbo's are thieves and cheaters. You want the SS by force because of sea and oil. Your home is landlocked and you can never stay alone. You are forever parasites and you will always disrespect anyone who is foolish enough to help you or liase with you. Disrespect, arrogance and lack of curtsey are your second natures.

Then, let them out of your Life simple. That would save a hole lot of headaches.

OoduaVanguard:
Random ibadan folks

Well, my Igbo brothers, If all these pics are truly from Ibadan, then we have to adjust our perception of Indi Ofe. Surely those pics are beautiful, inspiring, modern, futuristic and very classy I must say. The crowds very healthy, the women look cute. The name Agodi is an Igbo name for sure, any connection?.

ANAMBRA11:
I pity yoruba girls they re the least wanted in nigeria nowonder they bleach to look like igbo women

Don't mind the yorubas. I have written about this evolutionary trend severally, that because of biological, genetically and cultural endowments of Igbos (especially the beauty of their womanhood), yoruba men and indeed their culture will continue to gravitate toward the Igbo, with a far reaching implications for their economy, culture and most importantly their women. They will never accept the idea of Biafra or the phrase that " Lagos is no man's land" at the same time. Speak of illogical logic of a way of thinking cos of this gravitation towards any thing Igbo . In fact, the word Igbo has become sexy for the yorubas, and if you doubt me, research into how many countless times the word "Igbo" has been mentioned in nairaland since 2005. My honest advice to them, is for the Yoruba Obas to undertake a peaceful expedition to their counterparts in the East, and possibly sign a one thousand years peace treaty. If sharia can be functional under the nose of the Nation's constitution, such an undertaking can also be accomodated within the constitution. " Tomorrow, we will read yet another news of yoruba man feeling like he just win 1 million dollars cos of his marriage to another beautiful Igbo lady, while Igbo men and yoruba women wonders.

temitopeadeyemo:
I am Yoruba and proudly so. I do not see my tribe as better than others. I do not insult the inadequacies of other tribes. I see others irrespective of their background as humans and must be accorded some respect and dignity. I have noticed however, the way my igbo brothers and sisters have really taken this ethno-political war, thinking they are better than others. They have made some points in justifying their superiority to other tribes in the country and I am here to bust some of them.

Myth #1- Igbos are Jewish descendants or are like Jewish people. Comparing themselves with the Jewish people is a joke taking too far. They say they are adventurous as the jewish people. Jewish people became adventurous for a number of reasons, chief among them is that they were forced out of their country and had no choice but to seek refuge in foreign countries. The Igbos were never chased out of their home country. They chose to leave their homeland to other places. To them, the grass is always green at the other side. Secondly, The Jewish people practiced monotheism and we all know that just like any other African society, the Igbos have many deities they worshiped. Thirdly, The Jewish people speak Hebrew from the Afroasiatic language family while the Igbo is from Niger-Congo language family like Ashanti, Yoruba, etc. I have tried many times to find any similarities between the two groups but I have not found any. They may be adventurous more than any other tribes in country, but so are the Lebanese, the Syrians, Jews and the chinese. These other groups do not feel they are better than others. It is simple logic that you tend to do better when you are not in your comfort zone. Nigeriansare rated as one of the most educated ethnic groups in the US. They just have to make use of the opportunities they have because that is the only way to survive. So Igbos doing well in the West, North and even outside the country is just simple mathematics.

Myth #2- Igbos are the most successful tribe in the country. We can define success in so many ways. I want to assume that what they mean by success is the richest. I am going to come to that. The NBS in its reports revealed that Northwest has the highest number of poor people in Nigeria-71.4% while Southwest has the least-49.8%. South-east has 59.5% below the poverty line. Talking about the richest, I will use the most reliable source for this. There are 12 Nigerians on the list of Africa's richest by Forbes Magazine. Three northerners- Dangote, Rabiu and Danjuma; Three easterners- Kalu, Elumelu and Ovia; Five westerners-Adenuga, Alakija, Otedola, folawiyo and Otudeko. Osagie is also on the list but not so sure of where he is from. What my friends fail to understand is that we all compliment each other. That you are best known for something does not mean others do not have their strength too. They are not the most successful, They are part of our success stories so also our failings as a nation.

Myth #3- 50 percent of people living in Lagos are Igbos. There is no reliable stats to prove or disprove this assertion. The last governorship election in the state has however provided us with some clues. Judging by the voting pattern in Lagos, areas mostly dominated by the Igbos voted for PDP. We expect that if they are up to 50 percent, while other tribes- Yorubas, Edos, Efik, etc PDP should have won the election.

Myth #4- Biafra is the Solution to their problems. According to them, the rest of the country is holding them down. If they have Biafra today, the sky will be their beginning. South Eastern States today, just like most states in the country rely on Federal Allocation. Biafra will still have to bank on the probability that south-south will join them as well. Segregation is not your solution, a country where equity and justice are held sacrosanct is your solution. Today South Sudan are faced with the same problem they had when they were with Sudan.

Your thoughts, insults, criticism are most welcome.

Igbo topics, high traffic in nairaland and money making for seun, a yoruba man. Okey ooooo...

eliment:
one thing you should know is that all the casualties suffered by Biafran soldiers were caused by Yoruba led fronts. It is a fact that Yorubas are more tactical in war than any other tribe in Nigeria

If you have the guts, demand for your own country and display your tactical abilities for the world to see, not fighting along side some body else all the time. Yorubas are eternally cowards.

That2:
If you look closely the Asshôle is located in the Southeast.

But the yorubas really represent "the ugliest and filthiest face of Nigeria to Africa" eg Obasanjo/ South West slums, while south East represent "beauty and progress face of Nigeria to Africa" eg Nollywood.

ionsman:
Atiku: would you like to fvck genevieve?

Buhari: noooo, you have annihilated that punny with your mandingo.

Atiku: you can insert your head na.......

Why Genevieve?, instead of one of ugly, unattractive yoruba girls, after all they voted for him, hence the new alliance.