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MaxInDHouse:
Ordinarily people can't IDENTIFY those whom the father is angry with until judgement day! Matthew 7:21-23
But Jesus has given us a clue "By their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} so if you're sure you know the FRUIT expected from faithful servants of God continue!

"But Jesus has given us a clue"

I'm not sure of what you mean by this statement...

So when Jesus Christ said the Father will honour those who serve Him (Jesus), it's not a clue on how the judgement is going to be?

*. John 12:26 "KJV: If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man SERVE ME, HIM WILL MY FATHER HONOUR ."

Emusan:
They believe Jesus is "A GOD", you should have asked him if Jesus is a TRUE GOD or A FALSE GOD?

he will then type " worship your God, let's worship our own God"

Janosky:
Psalm 45:6-7 is the original copy of Hebrew 1:8.
Psalm 45:6 ,Masoretic Text "the throne given of God"
Psalms 45:6, Catholic Church New Jerusalem Bible/The Message Bible, the Catholic Pope knows that your quote of Trinitarian Hebrew 1:8 is a FRAUD.


Na your Trinity mentors /3 deities slaves dubiously add "Worshippers" @ 1 Peter 3:22.

Matthew 20:28 Jesus SERVE others.
Oga, your quote of John 12:26 is deceptive.
The Word "SERVE" is "minister" @ John 12:26 & Matthew 20:28.
I have no problem with you LYING in your house.
But, STOP LYING repeatedly to the public.

Oga,Why do you love to prove your disobedience to Jesus Christ instructions @ Mark 12:29-30 & Matthew 4:10?
"Worship only his Father and God."
.

The Word is God...
The Word is the Spirit...
The Spirit is God....
Jesus is the Spirit...

*. 1 Corinthians 15:45 "
KJV:And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam Jesus Christ) was made a quickening Spirit ."

John 14:23 " KJV:Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.

Note the words " we" and "our'. An angel doesn't reside in human! Ok?


*. John 1: 4 " KJV:In him (the Word) was LIFE ; and the life was the light of men."

*. John 6:63 "KJV:It is the spirit that quickeneth (gives life); the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are Spirit , and they are life."

*. Acts 17:25 "KJV:Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he (God) giveth to all LIFE, and breath, and all things;"

*. John 4: 24 " KJV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

*. 2 Corinthians 3: 6 " KJV:Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth LIFE ."

*. Colossians 3:4 " KJV:When Christ, who is our LIFE, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."

*. 1 John 1:2 " KJV: (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal LIFE, which was with the Father and was manifested unto us"

*. 1 John 5:20 " KJV:And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal LIFE "

MaxInDHouse:
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3 Holy Bible

The Holy Bible says there's just one only true God who sent Jesus! Mark 12:29

I've not seen any man said there are more than one true God...

Trinity is three Persons in one God...
The Word is life...
The Spirit is life...
The Word is the Spirit...
The Spirit is God....
God is the Spirit....

These we see from the Word bellow:

*. John 1: 4 " KJV:In him (the Word) was LIFE ; and the life was the light of men."

*. John 6:63 "KJV:It is the spirit that quickeneth (gives life); the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit , and they are life."

*. Acts 17:25 "KJV:Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he (God) giveth to all LIFE, and breath, and all things;"

*. John 4: 24 " KJV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

*. 2 Corinthians 3: 6 " KJV:Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth LIFE ."

*. Colossians 3:4 " KJV:When Christ, who is our LIFE, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."

*. 1 John 1:2 " KJV: (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal LIFE, which was with the Father , and was manifested unto us"

*. 1 John 5:20 " KJV:And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal LIFE "
This is the true God, and eternal LIFE

MaxInDHouse:
Instead of beating about the bush what you need is try to be consistent in your research!

Trying to create an argument simply because i told you the truth about your God is childishness.

I just told the OP that it's wrong to WORSHIP Jesus, we are asked to LISTEN to him not WORSHIP {Matthew 17:5} Jesus himself declared that the only true God is his father! John 17:3

So whether Jesus is angel or not the fact remains that he is not a human from the beginning neither was he the Almighty who sent himself!

"I just told the OP that it's wrong to WORSHIP Jesus, we are asked to LISTEN to him not WORSHIP {Matthew 17:5} Jesus himself declared that the only true God is his father! John 17:3"

He ( the Father) said we should listen to the Son and we should also worship Him:

*. Hebrews 1:6 " KJV:And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God WORSHIP him ."

*. 1 Peter 3:22 "KJV: (Jesus Christ) Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. "
or
"angels and authorities and powers being made WORSHIPERS unto him."

JESUS Himself said we should worship/serve Him. That the Father will bless us for worshipping Him ( Jesus)

*. John 12:26 "KJV: If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man SERVE ME, him will my Father honour ."

the Father is not angry with us who are worshipping Jesus?

AntiChristian:
"So where does the dubious " begotten son..."

This is another wide topic of discussion which I'll like to separate from this post

When the Bible says Jesus is the ONLY begotten (produced/created) Son;

it means the rest of human are not begotten (created/produced)...

The word opposite of begotten son is adopted son...

This should give us a clear understanding of the area this BEGOTTEN SON is going - it's in regards to the salvation plans for humanity; all other saved human beings are ADOPTED SONS:

Jesus is the only begotten son:

*. John 3:14 "KJV:And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, , the glory as of the ONLY BEGOTTEN of the Father ,) full of grace and truth."

16 "KJV:For God so loved the world, that he gave his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON , that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

18 "KJV: No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son , which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

*. Hebrews 11:17 "KJV:By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, "

ONLY means NO OTHER one!

other human beings ( especially the saved from sin through Jesus) are adopted sons:

*. Romans 8:15 "KJV:For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of ADOPTION, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."

*. Romans 8:23 "KJV:And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the ADOPTION , to wit, the redemption of our body ."

*. Romans 9:4 "KJV:Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the ADOPTION , and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;"

". Galatians 4:5 "KJV: To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the ADOPTION of sons "

*. Ephesians 1:5 "KJV: Having predestinated us unto the ADOPTION of children by Jesus Christ to himself , according to the good pleasure of his will,"

the unsaved are the children of the Devil:

*. 1 John 3:10 "KJV:In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil : whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother."

So while we may agree that Jesus as human being is produced/made/created....

*. John 1:14 " KJV: And the Word was MADE flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

"And the Word was MADE flesh,...
or
"and the Word was PRODUCED flesh,..."
or
"and the Word was CREATED flesh,..."

Surely, Jesus as God Almighty/the eternal WORD created Himself!

In other words,
In regards to creation, Jesus is the ONLY Creator while human beings are created by Him...

*. Genesis 1:27 "KJV: So GOD CREATED MAN in his own image, in the image of GOD CREATED he HIM ; MALE and FEMALE created he them ."

*. John 1:3 "KJV: All things were MADE by him (Jesus); and without him was not any thing made that was Made.

[b] When we talk about redemption of human beings from Satan and sin, Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON....
The rest of human beings ( especially the saved from sin through Jesus Christ) are adopted (not created)!

Any confusion or confession?

AntiChristian:
Where did Jesus call himself God without ambiguity?

I think I have to know your own definition and explanation of what/who is God.
Possibly it may have different meaning in your religion.

Your religion definition and explanation of father is:
"When you talk about father, then we should have a mother and children.
Then we known copulation and fertilisation."

But the definition and explanation of father (in my religion) goes beyond that;

" Father of all means owner of all:
*. Ephesians 4:6 " KJV: ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Father of all means creator of all:
*. Malachi 2:10 "KJV: HAVE WE NOT ALL ONE FATHER? HATH NOT ONE GOD CREATED US? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"

Your Bible was translated to English. It wasn't English!

Yes, from Hebrew and Greek to English language and it maintains it meaning. For example, Hebrew: אלהים
Transliteration: 'ĕlôhîym
Pronunciation: el-o-heem'
Translated 2,346 times to mean God in the King James Version of the Bible...

Now you can do your research on it to know if there is anything wrong with the transliteration and the translation...

So where does the dubious " begotten son" come from if father was metaphorical?

God brings things to be ( cause things to exist) without things, in other words: bringing something out of nothing.

Bring things to be = father. Since your religion also agree that God created Himself out of nothing,
I do not see the need for wife before He can father a child....

He has always brought to be without resources, so to say...

But it is important for us to know that He is the resources by Himself....

in the same way, He's the Husband (the Creator) and the Wife (the Resources) at the same time! The human His children,

is that ok, or you are still having difficulties?

"So where does the dubious " begotten son..."

This is another wide topic of discussion which I'll like to separate from this post

MaxInDHouse:
OBEISANCE and WORSHIP as i said earlier correlates but has different meaning.
OBEISANCE was translated in many verses of the KJV as WORSHIP because the translators are TRINITARIANS so they based their interpretation on preconceived thought of the TRINITY

Hmmm, this accusation is not fair at all! The Bible works of the innocent transliterators are misjudged by Watch tower. They are guilty of the things they accuse others....

Since you understood the scriptures i hope you and your fellow members are doing what Jesus who was called "CHRIST" commissioned {Matthew 10:1-15 28:19-20} which led the inhabitants of Antioch to call them "CHRISTIANS"? Act 11:26
If you're up and doing in this regard more grease to your elbow Sir!

ok nauw, it's well. I Know that Jesus Christ, the TRUE GOD, will soon come and He'll make all things clear for us...

AntiChristian:
All Prophets are a representative of God on earth. God didn't come to tell Noah's people about the flood. Same as Moses's.

Where did Jesus call himself God without any ambiguity?

There's no ambiguity in this case. For example,
if I should say " I've never discussed with a Muslim faithful"

and you say "you have been discussing with me all this while, yet you said you had not discussed with a Muslim faithful?"
You have directly told me that you are a Muslim faithful!...[/quote]

God is not a father to anyone. He is far from such appellation of siring.

When you talk about father, then we should have a mother and children.

Then we known copulation and fertilisation.

this is serious, the English language is not like that.... person can father a child through adoption, okay...

Some teachers do tell their students " go and marry your book" this doesn't mean payment of bride price, wedding and the rest...

Father of all means owner of all:

*. Ephesians 4:6 " KJV: One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Father of all means creator of all:

*. Malachi 2:10 "KJV: Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"

MaxInDHouse:
You claim you know what OBEISANCE and WORSHIP means but it's obvious you don't!

Obeisance means obedience to someone and that means the person you're asked to obey will give you orders either verbally or in written form.

I took time to post some bible dictionary concordances showing the meaning of the Hebrews & Greek word translated worship, non of them contains the word obey or obedience but you from nowhere type "obeisance means obedience"
But the two words are different. Obedience do with laws/commandments/ instructions....
The other one deals with reverence/respect...[/quote]

Now why do i go against Catholics claiming they're doing obeisance to Mary?
Please what exactly did Mary commanded me to do as found written in the scriptures?
Did God ask me to obey Mary the way He said about Jesus? Matthew 17:5
The national anthem and pledge is against pure worship!
HOW? God's word asked me to obey the authorities but then i should be able to distinguish between what belongs to Caesar and what belongs to God {Mark 12:17} God demands exclusive devotion from me [Mark 12:29-30} that i can't give any other thing. So if they demand my 100% faithfulness, loyalty and honesty as stated in their anthem and pledge please what happens when they ask me to kill whereas God's word (Jesus Christ) say i must love and pray even for my enemies? Matthew 5:43-48

The Hebrew word שׁחה is
transliterated shâchâh,
Pronunced shaw-khaw'
Defined as:
1. to prostrate (especially reflexively in homage to royalty or God);
2. to bow down or fall down flat humbly;
3. to do (make) obeisance or do reverence (worship)

This word is transliterated 99 times to mean worship in the King James Version...(i.e in the Old Testament)

It counterpart in Greek (προσκυνέω)
Transliterated proskuneō,
Pronunced pros--neh'-o
Defined as:
1. to kiss like a dog licking his master´ s hand;
2. to literally or figuratively prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to adore): - worship.

This word is transliterated 60 times to mean worship in the King James Version... ( i.e in the New Testament)

The truth is that worship/ homage/ Obeisance mean the same thing, according to Bible usage![/quote]

These verses needs to be in thoroughly examined before we can come to agree on the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS otherwise it will just be the same way where you and your friends will be honouring Jesus with your mouth but will not be able to agree on how to do what Jesus commanded: the preaching and teaching campaign! Matthew 28:19-20

oya nauw, let's examine the verses:


*. 1 Peter 1:10 "KJV:Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11
KJV:Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

The above is in agreement with the below:

*. John 1: 10 "KJV: He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not "

AntiChristian:
Did he call himself God?

Yes. When Philip demanded to see/know the Father, Jesus presented Himself as the Father. No other better way to say I am God!

*. John 14 :8 " KJV:Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father , and it sufficeth us.
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KJV: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip ? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?"[/quote]

No!

His father allegedly called Himself God many times in the old testament!

For example in Isaiah 45:7, it reads something like: I create light and darkness. I create prosperity and disaster! I the LORD (YAHWEH) did all these things.

And there are other times Yahweh called Himself God.

Jesus never for once. Hence you have to help him.

"His father allegedly called Himself God..."

Ok, you don't even believe the Father!

MaxInDHouse:
READ 1Corinthians 2:16: For “who has come to know the mind of Jehovah, so that he may instruct him?” But we do have the mind of Christ.
Paul is emphasizing that nobody has ever seen God physically to learn from His character but Jesus (Christ) lived as a human so everyone can learn from the person of the Christ! John 1:18

The CHARACTER (Jesus) doesn't change so read what he taught by thoughts, words and actions and believe for your salvation because that's his personality which will never change. That's the import of the verse you quoted Sir!


Though the two are related but they differs in meaning. For instance the President of your country must be obeyed just as the three Hebrew boys in Babylon were ready to do OBEISANCE to the Nebuchadnezzar as their God commanded {Jeremiah 21:8-10} but then they're not to WORSHIP him, that's why their God sent his angel to protect them because they did just so!



According to Jesus' own speech he (Jesus) has a father who is the same father of all faithful servants of God, and a God who is the God of all faithful servants of God! John 20:17

So if you believe that an organization is wrong for teaching this it's OK i'm just showing you how the word OBEISANCE and WORSHIP correlates but differs in indepth meaning !

Why do your denomination and other denominations are condemning the Catholic church for doing obeisance to Marry?

And why do you refuse to do obeisance to national anthem and national pledge?

But Jesus is God forever and ever. The Bible says His spirit was directing the old prophets...
this means He's existed as GOD before He came to the world:

*. 1 Peter 1:10 "KJV:Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11
KJV:Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

The above is in agreement with the below:

*. John 1: 10 "KJV: He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not"

MaxInDHouse:
You can make anything your god and that's what most people are doing today.
Moses was God {Exodus 7:1} so most Israelites after him revere him as the their saviour since it was recorded that he spoke face to face with their God! Deuteronomy 34:10

In Jesus' case he served as God in the midst of his people in the first century {John 1:1}

The Bible says Jesus the same yesterday, today and forever...

*. Hebrews 13:8 " KJV: Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever ."
which means if He's God yesterday, He's God today and forever He'll be God!

You've admitted Jesus is God!

but his own disciples never worshiped him as God rather they did OBEISANCE to him

Worship is obeisance and vise versa...

This is why your organization don't sing national anthem and national pledge...

The Catholic church said they are doing obeisance to Marry, other denominations say no, it's the same thing ...

But I trust the Watch tower and manipulation are 5&6
Hebrew: שׁחה
Transliteration: shâchâh
Pronunciation: shaw-khaw'
Definition: A primitive root; to {depress} that {is} prostrate (especially reflexively in homage to royalty or God): - bow (self) {down} {crouch} fall down ({flat}) humbly {beseech} do (make) {obeisance} do {reverence} make to {stoop} worship.
KJV Usage: worship (99x), bow (31x), bow down (18x), obeisance (9x), reverence (5x), fall down (3x), themselves (2x), stoop (1x), crouch (1x), misc (3x).
Occurs: 172
In verses: 166

Greek: προσκυνέω
Transliteration: proskuneō
Pronunciation: pros-koo-neh'-o
Definition: From G4314 and probably a derivative of G2965 (meaning to kiss like a dog licking his master´ s hand); to fawn or crouch to that is (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to adore): - worship.
KJV Usage: worship (60x).
Occurs: 65
In verses: 54

which means they subjected themselves to whatever comes out of his mouth in accord with what God commanded the Israelites {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} this was erroneously mistranslated WORSHIP by trinitarians hence people like the OP concluded that Jesus is the God they should worship.

Jesus is God forever and ever:

*. Romans 9:5 "KJV:Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever . Amen."

*. Romans 11:36 " KJV:For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever . Amen."

In his own statements it's clear that someone sent Jesus {John 3:16} and according to Jesus it's that person that deserves to be worshiped! John 20:17

Someone sent His word, and the person word is the person himself!

AntiChristian:
You made him your God.

When I consider all the characteristics of the true God, and He is perfectly fit in, I and sure He's the only true God!

It's said that someone word is the person....

God's word is God...

Jesus is God's word....

Jesus is God!

AntiChristian:
All this extrapolations just to derive that Jesus is God.

A God would never be afraid to tell His creations whom He is.

Jesus can't even say he's God! He never said so.

He's God to me and many others

mynd44, lalasticala....
Happy Sunday to you All

The Bible says He sent His word and heal them, ....

That is, He sent Jesus and heal them
*. Psalms 207:20 "KJV: HE SENT HIS WORD, AND HEALED THEM, and delivered them from their destructions ."

1. The Word of God is God:
*. 1 John 1:1 " KJV:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God ."

# and Jesus is the Word of God, so Jesus is God !

*. John 1:14 "KJV: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

2. the Word of God is the power of God:
*. Jeremiah 10:12 "KJV: , He hath made the earth by his power , he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion."

*. Hebrews 11:3 "KJV:Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

#. and Jesus is the power of God:
*. 1corinthians 1:24 "KJV:But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, CHRIST THE POWER OF GOD , and the wisdom of God."

*. Matthew 22:29 "KJV:Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing scriptures, nor THE POWER OF GOD. "

3. the Word of God is the wisdom of God:
*. Luke 11:49 "KJV: Therefore also said the WISDOM of God , I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute"

#. and Jesus is the wisdom of God:
*. 1corinthians 1:24 "KJV:But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the WISDOM of God. "

4. the Word of God is the light:
*. Job 24:13 "KJV: They are of those that rebel against the LIGHT ; they know not the ways thereof, nor abide in the paths thereof."

*. psalm 119:105 "KJV: Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a LIGHT unto my path."

#. and Jesus is the Light:

*. John 8:12 "KJV:Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the LIGHT of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

*. 1 John 1:5 "KJV:This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is LIGHT, and in him is no darkness at all."

*. Revelations 21:23 "KJV:And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof."

5. the Word of God is the truth:

*. Psalms 91:4 "KJV:He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: HIS TRUTH shall be thy shield and buckler."

*. psalms 119:142 "KJV:Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth ."
151
KJV:Thou art near, O Lord; and all thy commandments are truth.

#. and Jesus is the truth [b] :

*. John 8: 32 "KJV:And [b] ye shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall make you free. "
Or
KJV:And ye shall know (Jesus),and ( Jesus) shall make you free.

John 17:17 "KJV:Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is TRUTH ."

6. The Word of God is life:

*. Deuteronomy 30:20 "KJV:That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them."

*. Deuteronomy 32:46 "KJV:And he said unto them, Set your hearts unto all the words which I testify among you this day, which ye shall command your children to observe to do, all the words of this law.
47
KJV:For it is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life: and through this thing ye shall prolong your days in the land, whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.

NOTE: Set your hearts unto all the words...because it is your life:

*. John 11:25 "KJV:Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the LIFE : he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:"

*. John 14:6 "KJV:Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Note! I AM THE LIFE

This is good. But this wicked generation will not like to promote and publicise this reconciliation video....

Christians and non-christians were busy in all social media outlets that time, posting about the happening... only for the purpose of bringing the church and her school down ...

The woman was even encourage to go extra mile on YouTube....

Can the same thing be done now about this settlement?

Maryam1234:
Why not, let's meet on Watsapp sir.

Ok, is the number on your signature your WhatsApp number?

Maryam1234:
I and Mr Richard from Enugu State,A nairalander at Madallah market today.Nice meeting you sir, it's a privilege I won't take for granted.Wishing you journey mercy back home,Chukwu gozie gi.Who says Nigerian youths are not enterprising? Watch out for today's market price update,ciao.

I would like to buy bambara nuts... I'm in ENUGU. Can you be of help?

336. Ufia Benue
343. Utonkong Benue...

These two are supposed to be one. One of the names is referring to the people while the other is referring to their language!

Moreover, I didn't see Efium or Ufium - Ebonyi and Benue

achorladey:
You know when some hear war all they see is people fighting without love. They forget the sense of SELF DEFENSE embedded in war.

Military formations all over the world are built first and foremost for self defense. So I laugh when members of a religious group begin to say...



You will think they are better or different whereas they are not. They equally preach self defense against dangers endangering lives of family, friends and relatives from intruders and invaders which sometimes leads to fight death and killings

Such ones go further to say



We know they don't have to go to war to kill their fellow members. Kill na kill or commit other immoral practices

such ones added



A case of someone that don't understand the meaning of SELF DEFENSE as taught by the religious organization he belongs.

2 Samuel 3 1 - 39 comes to mind. The house of David was in a long War with house of Saul.

You know both are Satan's witnesses and not you know the rest

I remember asking them has Jehovah’s servant ever fought against another Jehovah’s servant since they believe Christians are not expected to go to war? These people go mute.

Benjamin tribe sex scandal comes to mind Judges chapters 19 - 21. Fits this thread that even at war there should be love of enemies. Israelites almost wiped out the Benjamin tribe yet they provide wives for them in order for their numbers to come back like before.

Nairaland na place to learn not just a place to market a religious organization or brag about a religious organization.

" You will think they are better or different whereas they are not. They equally preach self defense against dangers endangering lives of family, friends and relatives from intruders and invaders which sometimes leads to fight death and killings..."

Their hypocrisy stinks...

MaxInDHouse:
Following!

Are those Christians in Ukraine JWs?

You can now see that it's not only JWs that do not fight war...

It's not only JWs that preach the Gospel...

Anonymous11:
It took us more than five years to finally kick a stubborn tenant out of the property last week. It took that long because of some silly circumstances beyond our control, among which are hesitation from our side and delayed court processes, one of which you have mentioned. Such as almost falling into the trap of using illegal means to evict the stubborn tenant. My advice is to seek the advice of a lawyer who specialises in evicting tenants and pursuing that process only. If you do something illegal rather than court proceedings, you will be surprised how you will find yourself in court for illegal house eviction. As this will slow down the court eviction process and gives the tenant legitimate reasons to attack your eviction processes in court. You need to be patient and follow the court guidance only. I repeat only!

Sincerely, the COVID lockdown allows the court proceeding to drag for too long. Ours was long because the stubborn tenant keep appealing the court verdict for no apparent reason. Give and take, if you follow the lawyer's guidance the process should be less than four years. The court eventually gave the eviction notice and the stubborn tenant was kicked out by the court bailiff and policemen. All his stuff was dumped outside the house and even got rained on, later that day. He was thoroughly shamed out of the property.

But did he pay you for the years he's owing?

Dtruthspeaker, how do see this judgement?

MadamVanessa:
Goodmorning Christian brethrens and to all nairalanders.

In today's society, I noticed that people seems to see those who do not go to church regularly as not being serious with their heavenly race and salvation of soul and this makes it look like one salvation of soul is tied down to going to church regularly.

I am one of such person that do not like going to church at all, but I believe so much in God and I know I am not the only one in this. This problem is faced by so many people in the world.

So is there anything wrong in one not going to church regularly but believe in God within himself or herself and try his or her best in doing the thing that pleases God.

Lalasticlala

Well. The way I have always understood this matter is:
The church services or church attendance is like a school attendance.....

I mean, in religion it's called church. In accedemy it's called school....

Now, if you should use the same question for your accedemy, what will be your answer...

What I'm saying is if your child ask you
" Mummy, is there anything wrong if I don't attend classes in the school? I'm doing my studying in the house...

*. Hebrews 10:25 " KJV: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."

*. Leviticus 8:4 " KJV:And Moses did as the Lord commanded him; and the assembly was gathered together unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation"

Our God commands that His children be gathered before Him from time to time!

*. Proverbs 9:12 " KJV: if thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it ."

This is for antichristian and co

*. Daniel 4:25 " KJV:That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will "

This is for Bihari and Putin

*. John 3:16 "KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life ."

This is for all living!

By the end of this war the "one world government" will be established. They wanted to use COVID-19 to achieve the aim but it fail...

Note that the New World Order is going to be achieved after multiple global deaths
- making all nations of the earth to desire a solution.
This will eventually bring in the man of knowledge ( the Antichrist) to rule the world. And he'll actually bring in temporal peace to the world.

This killing is going to spread across the globe...
But our final salvation is now nearer than when we 1st believe!

Jesus is the solution....!

22jumpstreet:
The Enuma Elish preceded the Bible by more than a thousand year. The jews got these materials from the trade routes.

Christianity started as the worship of serapis in Egypt.
Some people still worshipped horus as the son, isis asthe mother and Osiris as the father. The serapis Cult was created by ptolomy the first. He was the first pharaoh of Greek decent...he wanted to unify the Greek belief and the Egyptians. He came up with serapis...which isbasically horus and apis combined to form one deity. Serapis had a man's head rather than the animal head the egptian gods had.

At the Council of Ephesus,in 430 BC . serapis became Jesus. The rest is history...

The jews still worship their God. With no associates, after 2000+ years. They still hold their ground..

What is the meaning of BC above?

MaxInDHouse:
Because any other word you choose can well replace an ORGANIZED PEOPLE WORSHIPING their God just as Jesus prayed for:

“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me! John 17:20-23

Compare to


In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Hmm!

So you can use any other word suitable enough from your reasoning to replace that, we used it as the term that best describes an ORGANIZED global family of peace loving worshipers

Just like Catholic Women Organisation - "ORGANIZED global family of peace loving women"

Therefore we don't preach organization unlike you people who keeps preaching trinity and saying it's a mystery!

you particularly have been preaching the organisation:

You need more knowledge.
Each generation Satan keeps people in spiritual bondage, The Pharisees only need to acknowledge God's only begotten Son in their midst but arrogance becloud their reasoning. Today you only need to acknowledge Jesus' brothers {Matthew 25:31-46} mind you Jesus said your salvation is attached to acknowledging them, failure to acknowledge them means Jesus will deny you in the day of Judgment.
So try to know today who are Christ's brothers? smiley
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https://www.nairaland.com/6001666/what-preach/1#92712383