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correctguy101:
That's why the answer to the OP remains YES and NO

YESNO or NOYES?

LordReed:
We measure all sorts of wavelengths with instruments, why is this one eluding us?

What claim have I made with certain that is still a mystery? Are you sure you aren't talking about yourself?

Don’t worry I already supplied the answer. Frequency 1/137. Mass 1/137. Just don’t ask me to prove it. Lol

Haynnie:
This guy just have personal beef with God cus I see no reason for this post.

When you feel you are offended there's a certainty that you will provide a narrative that would suit your perspective of what has happened. And this is the best opinion you can come up with?

Atheist like you... I mean Christian slanders like you are always spot on with facing one religion. Why?

I hope you keep same energy for other religions as you slander the Christians and the Bible.

Genius, where did I insult Christianity?
If I want to insult christianity, I’d talk about the magic Jew that crawled out of a virgin’s ass. This is just an irreverent exposition on the absurdity that is the Hebrew nonsense some place on a pedestal .

I’m not an atheist though. Gods are nonsense, rubbish, nothing. It’s not a question of “belief”. I KNOW your gods are made from the same substance as McMIckie because McMickie “revealed” this truth to me. It’s akin to Moses’ revelations from his Lord except McMickie is technologically advanced so there was no thunderings, lightning, and smoke on the mountain when “They” appeared.

DeepSight:
This is just childish mockery and it is a frank waste of time.



A001 put forward something worthy of thought - particles/waves and I might also recalibrate the issue into matter and energy or even further on, into hardware and software. None of this is nonsense sire. It is all worthy of consideration and thought. Lightly dismissing a thing with a wave of the hand without pointing out why it should be dismissed and then proceeding to claim that its just words is just lazy and even unworthy.

A proper response, for a serious a discussant will go along the lines of stating exactly what is wrong with the analogy he made rather than putting up the insulting gibberish you have just written up there and claiming that "anyone can write such" - to paraphrase you.

When you say "hook, line..." you are just wasting your time. I have posted actively on this forum for 14 years and have interrogated ideas of too many complexions to give any moment to such a silly accusation. You can repeat that a zillion times, it simply can't stick.



Knowledge builds upon knowledge - even, and I dare say particularly, with the proper and logical rebuttal of previous assumptions.



Perhaps you miss the significance of my reference to antiquity. You see, I think you jump too fast. You are the one, in one of your earliest interventions in this discussion, who attempted to make a mockery of the idea of the soul by rereferring to L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. If you are honest, you will admit that this was an attempt to make the very concept of a soul appear something queer, fringe and even laughable. This is the specific context in which I referred to the antiquity of the concept of a soul. And yes, there is a place for ancient ideas in studying these matters. Because the truth is that certain things come to mankind from time immemorial as a matter of genuine intuition and it would be both thoughtless and shallow to lightly dismiss them.

As I said, even in the development of further (and better) knowledge, that which has gone under the bridge is helpful because it serves well to rebut such in coming to a deeper understanding. In this way, Newtonian physics has given way to Quantum physics, but I sincerely cannot imagine what serious thinker would have dismissed the thoughts of Isaac Newton (and his cardinal importance in the development of physics) on such a light note as you do. I would never take such a person seriously and frankly, no serious person would. In fact, let me go further to tell you that if you were a serious thinker, you would not dismiss even myth and legend so lightly and so quickly - and certainly not without some level of reflection - because even in absolute fairy tales and folklore often rests many nuggets of truth being described in a non-literal way.

I think there has to come a time when you start being intellectually honest with yourself and also begin to see that you might just be a very intolerant person - and nothing can be worse than being intolerant of philosophical thought. Because the truth again is that if anyone came up and made a simple declaration such as "only the physical exists" - I see you taking such a shallow and self evidently false position seriously. I am certain, and I could bet my left testicle that you would never mock such a position. Whereas if anyone asserts the contrary - that there are intangible aspects to our reality - a thing which is undeniable and provable - you immediately mock and laugh and call such "bullchit" - to be frank, I find your position comical.

The complexity of the question of consciousness is so profound that it is a wonder that anyone could laugh at the idea that there is an intangible aspect to it - as I have said repeatedly - even if they disagree with it. Such a person just comes across as shallow and lacking in thought.

I truly don't think you are serious yet.

Much verbosity but not much substance andof course no evidence. Just like intangible, spaceless, timeless, immaterial McMIckie who sits on my shoulder.

CodeTemplar:
You missed the whole point. The word of God is in principles and are meant to reveal God's ways to you. They are not personal issues compiled to entertain.

What does “word of god” even mean? Was any of it authored by Mr.God?

What are the principles in these extortion sagas?
His ways are very apparent in the story and I am thoroughly entertained.

What if I choose to reveal McMickie’s beneficent ways and principles by telling a story of a rapist who is rewarded while the victim and her hometown are destroyed?
Would you consider me sane and honest?

Then Abraham prayed to God, and God healed Abimelech, his wife, and his female slaves so that they could bear children, 18 for the Lord had completely closed all the wombs in Abimelech’s household on account of Sarah, Abraham’s wife.


What a shitshow! Lord god moving like Tony Soprano.

Then Abimelech took sheep and cattle and male and female slaves, gave them to Abraham, and returned his wife Sarah to him. Abimelech said, “Look, my land is before you. Settle wherever you want.”16 And he said to Sarah, “Look, I am giving your brother 1,000 pieces of silver. It is a verification of your honor to all who are with you. You are fully vindicated.”

The chosen thief gets more property by extortion.

So when God had me wander from my father’s house, I said to her: Show your loyalty to me wherever we go and say about me: ‘He’s my brother.’”

R3tard, you are her brother!!

Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife

Sister fucking motherfucker.

Abraham replied, “I thought, ‘There is absolutely no fear of God in this place. They will kill me because of my wife.’

No wonder some people say the jew will strike you while crying out loud. With demented stories like this, how can you trust them? This fool, his sister wife, and his god are causing mayhem but he has the nerve to play the victim.

Mr. Chosen People, the only killer here so far is your god. Don’t worry, your god has threatened them so there is a “fear of god” in this place now.

Then Abimelech called Abraham in and said to him, “What have you done to us? How did I sin against you that you have brought such enormous guilt on me and on my kingdom? You have done things to me that should never be done.” 10 Abimelech also said to Abraham, “What did you intend when you did this thing?”

Abimelech, let me introduce you to Abram, the most special snowflake in the whole universe. His god created the whole universe and specifically chose him as the bestest of the best. Very very special snowflake.

Early in the morning Abimelech got up, called all his servants together, and personally told them all these things, and the men were terrified.

Lord god the terrorist. The patron of terrorists Moses and Mohammed.

Now return the man’s wife, for he is a prophet, and he will pray for you and you will live. But if you do not return her, know that you will certainly die, you and all who are yours.”

A “prophet”. The special man amongst the special people. Yea yea yea, we know you will kill everything. Your favorite pastime.

Then God said to him in the dream, “Yes, I know that you did this with a clear conscience. I have also kept you from sinning against Me. Therefore I have not let you touch her.

Then why did you threaten him, you bloodthirsty shit?
Here, we get an early example of the god acting like a puppeteer. The unnamed pharaoh will get the brunt of this magical power later on.

Now Abimelech had not approached her, so he said, “Lord, would You destroy a nation even though it is innocent? 5 Didn’t he himself say to me, ‘She is my sister’? And she herself said, ‘He is my brother.’ I did this with a clear conscience and clean hands.”

Doesn’t matter, you are still going to be extorted with a “clear conscience”.

But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night and said to him, “You are about to die because of the woman you have taken, for she is a married woman.”

Psycho god ready to kill. Thou shalt not kill, you maniac!!

From there Abraham traveled to the region of the Negev and settled between Kadesh and Shur. While he lived in Gerar, 2 Abraham said about his wife Sarah, “She is my sister.” So Abimelech king of Gerar had Sarah brought to him.

Here we go again!

17 But the Lord struck Pharaoh and his household with severe plagues because of Abram’s wife Sarai. 18 So Pharaoh sent for Abram and said, “What have you done to me? Why didn’t you tell me she was your wife? 19 Why did you say, ‘She’s my sister,’ so that I took her as my wife? Now, here is your wife. Take her and go!” 20 Then Pharaoh gave his men orders about him, and they sent him away with his wife and all he had.

The moral of the story. P!mp your sister wife for wealth with support from your god who acts like a mob boss.

Please say you’re my sister so it will go well for me because of you, and my life will be spared on your account.” 14 When Abram entered Egypt, the Egyptians saw that the woman was very beautiful. 15 Pharaoh’s officials saw her and praised her to Pharaoh, so the woman was taken to Pharaoh’s household. 16 He treated Abram well because of her, and Abram acquired flocks and herds, male and female donkeys, male and female slaves, and camels.

That 65 year old pussy must have been working overtime for Abram to receive male and female slaves. one of the earliest examples that lord god (the “author of morality” according to his slaves) did not have any problems with slavery.

10 There was a famine in the land, so Abram went down to Egypt to live there for a while because the famine in the land was severe. 11 When he was about to enter Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, “Look, I know what a beautiful woman you are. 12 When the Egyptians see you, they will say, ‘This is his wife.’ They will kill me but let you live.

Why was this scumbag projecting his vile character? Why was he scared? Wasn’t he accompanied by the bad ass murdering god?
The Hebrews, while displaying all manner of depravity, love to calumnize other people. “They will kill me” because there are no beautiful women in Egypt except your sexagenarian sister wife.

DeepSight:
I think at this point you have devoted yourself to mockery of serious thought. That is your affair.

A soul is the intersection and interface of the terrestrial with the intangible sublime thereby giving rise to consciousness. The Heisenberg model of consciousness and the almost complete Standard Modelof the universe predict that the frequency of the wave is the dimensionless number 1/137 and the weight of the particle is also the dimensionless number 1/137. The collapse of the wave particle duality gives rise to the soul. Physicist Richard Feynman, who knew a thing or two about it, called it “one of the greatest damn mysteries of physics: a magic number that comes to us with no understanding.

See, I can write pseudo-profound bullshit that is even more impressive than A001’s and also supported by quantum woo woo. I even included a quote from an authority in physics to burnish the nonsense.

What “serious thought”? Serious thought would be going beyond silly superstitions and antiquated beliefs that have been shown to be the musings of people who did not understand the world as we do. They did the best with the information they had at the time, but that doesn’t mean we should hold on to the dregs of their knowledge.

You said it’s an ancient belief. So what? Did the antiquity of the Hebrew juju (it rhymes lol and it’s my new name for abrahamic nonsense. Juju from the French “Jou Jou” meaning plaything. If this Europeans can reduce other people’s beliefs to “plaything”, I’ll gladly refer to theirs and that repulsive jew shit as juju) stop you from discarding it? Did antiquity stop you from discarding indigenous gods and beliefs?

jaephoenix:
The process of car, aeroplane production are well documented and there are no guess works or duplicity involved. Is the process of human creation well documented without duplicity and falsehoods? No

It is written the repulsive Hebrew Shit (capital letter S to distinguish it from the other shits and proclaim him as the only true Shit lol) said abracadabra “let there be light”, abracadabra “let there be waters in the heavens and waters on earth and waters up my ass”

Abracadabra, let there be penis. Abracadabra, let there be vagina. Abracadabra, let there be stomach.

You ever wonder if prior to the motherf#cka saying “let there be light” was he fumbling in the dark or did he have a candle burning for visibility?

For any offended slave of the Hebrew shit, you are not part of the “holy race”, so sheath your sword. The “holy race” that would f#ck their own sisters and aunts to keep their bloodline inbred, excuse me ,“holy”.

Ezra 9
After these things had been done, the leaders came to me and said, “The people of Israel, including the priests and the Levites, have not kept themselves separate from the neighboring peoples with their detestable practices, like those of the Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites, Moabites, Egyptians and Amorites. 2 They have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and their sons, and have mingled the holy race with the peoples around them. And the leaders and officials have led the way in this unfaithfulness.”

DeepSight:
Brilliant again.

Hook, line…….

jaephoenix:
Bullshit

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism

Quantum mysticism, sometimes referred pejoratively to as quantum quackery or quantum woo,is a set of metaphysical beliefs and associated practices that seek to relate consciousness, intelligence, spirituality, or mystical worldviews to the ideas of quantum mechanics and its interpretations. Quantum mysticism is criticized by non-believers with expert knowledge of quantum mechanics to be pseudoscience or quackery.

DeepSight:
Souls emanate from that primordial living substance which is at the root of reality.

Thetans emanate from the essence of existence that permeates all things.

Emis evolve out of the quintessence of being.

Lukas are derived from the eternal substrate of the whole.

Rashis are radiated from the Core that exudes life.

Buutkus is a natural phenomenon of the quiddity of reality.

https://journal.sjdm.org/15/15923a/jdm15923a.html

Although bullshit is common in everyday life and has attracted attention from philosophers, its reception (critical or ingenuous) has not, to our knowledge, been subject to empirical investigation. Here we focus on pseudo-profound bullshit, which consists of seemingly impressive assertions that are presented as true and meaningful but are actually vacuous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq6Y54mxjOg

I wonder if a soul or a thetan is involved.

Ancient aliens.

DeepSight:
If with our interaction on this forum you consider me as one of those who "swallows everything hook line and sinker" - - - I can only conclude you have not been reading my posts and for that reason there would be scarce point attempting the discourse.

I have read your posts longer than you know and it’s the same old shit and you do swallow things hook, line, and sinker………and sometimes you swallow the fish also. The only update is nomenclature.

DeepSight:
It is disappointing for you to have to reach as far as such a fringe modern sect in order to fully ground your ad hominems against the ancient and timeless concept of a soul.

The soul is the intangible inner aspect of man, and this is also not a foolish concept because men of all ages have recognized that mere matter cannot, of itself, be a conscious and living being. Mere matter is dead. The body is a self evident and obvious tool for an indwelling being. Every function of the body attests to this, including all the senses as well as the very facts of birth and death.

And it’s not surprising that you swallow everything hook, line, and sinker. I don’t care how many men or women of all ages have believed in a soul just like I don’t care show many have believed in gods, demons, and spirits. Just because people believe things doesn’t make them true.
You can make a thousand and one claims but you can never prove them and have to rely on gullibility and credulity.
Show me the so called Soul that powers “dead matter” then I’ll show you the Rumbum that powers the earth and keeps it spinning. Lol
“Bullshit” is always “intangible”, “ non physical”, “spaceless, timeless, and immaterial” but somehow it’s controlling everything in the physical world that doesn’t need it to function.

The mourners wailing louder than the bereaved.

justcool:
Almost all religious beliefs are predicated on the existence of the soul, our nonphysical essences that outlive our physical bodies.

But does the soul really exist or is it just a superstitious figment of our imagination?

I won’t mince words. The soul is bullshit. Superstition. Figment of your imagination. Let me present L Ron Hubbard, a man who had a very active imagination and a talent for writing. His ideas led to the religion of Scientology and most modern people dismiss him as a charlatan and his religion as manipulative and authoritarian bunkum. Ironically, members of the abrahamic faiths and other older faiths also view Hubbard and his religion as nonsense even though their beliefs are just as valid, or invalid, as his!!

If Jesus were a real person and lived in modern times he would be viewed the same way as Hubbard. All the creators of these faiths will be viewed as charlatans too if they were to pop up now and their ideas including “soul” would be dismissed as unfounded rubbish.

What’s the difference between a soul and a thetan?

Thetan, in Scientology, the authentic spiritual identity of an individual. It is similar to the soul, whose existence is taught by many religious traditions.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/thetan

In order for them to manipulate and bamboozle you, they have to create all manner of nonsense that don’t exist.

The god who is the boogie man, the sin that is the crime, the cure for the sin, and the entity (soul, thetan, spirit) that will suffer for the sin. All bullshit and that’s why they reside in the “non-physical” realm.

jaephoenix:
And I'll oblige Yahweh and beat the Christ outta DTruthSpeaker. So help me yahweh

Exodus 9:
8 Then the Lord said to Knownunknown and Jaephoenix, “Take handfuls of soot from a furnace and have Jaephoenix toss it into the air in the presence of Dtruthspeaker. 9 It will become fine dust over the whole household of Dtruthspeaker, and festering boils will break out on him and his family throughout the land.”