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budaatum:
We are discussing God. It's in the topic of the thread, known. And creation does include Adam and Eve and the entire God books and a lot more, if one asked me.

What is your meaning of luminaries, please?

We weren't discussing God and topics often veer of the OP so don't act brand new. I asked specifically about the lord you referred to in your response to me not any god. And you did say “nothing in particular” but if you mean God, fine.

Luminaries as in the orbs that doth the sky.

budaatum:
Believing, mostly. When one lacks understanding of religious texts.

What do you mean understanding?

budaatum:
Oh how so little you seem to know that some study Things Fall Apart for different reasons like trying to understand the foundations of the religious beliefs of some.

Oh well, you can assume what I seem to know but nothing I said implies what you assume.

budaatum:
I'd say, "understanding the text", since calling it an allegory kind of implies anything but. After all, it could be a story or mythology too, or "the foundation of religious belief" of some, though, to me it's words in a book to be understood
Known. How can I possibly be insisting that my own understanding must be your own understanding? Is my mind your mind? Don't you have a mind if your own to use to get your own understanding?

You will notice that while you keep insisting it is my own interpretation, I keep correcting you that it is my understanding of a text we claim to have read.

I never said anything you are claiming. I didn't tell you not to call it understanding so why are you up in arms because I called it your interpretation when you can't show your interpretation to be the intended meaning anyway. Call it understanding all you want.

budaatum:
Please know that buda is stating buda's understanding of the text, specifically with the insistence that you use your own eyes and mind like Eve did to get an understanding of your own as opposed believing like ignorant Adam did

You are the one treating your interpretation like a fact so maybe you're believing like ignorant Adam.

budaatum:
Did Eve not disobey a commandment when she used her own senses to test if she would die on the day that she ate or not?

budaatum:
But it wasn't poisoned nor triggered the decay that eventually killed them, so what's your point?

I can say it was poison in the fruit that triggered the decay that eventually killed them just like you can say that they were slaves in the garden to prove your point.

budaatum:
Should they not have bothered to check instead of making "could have" crap up in their own heads?

I'm sure you can use your senses to increase the amount of choices instead of the two you have decided on.

budaatum:
"When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom".
I can't see how your allegory lense or any lense at all makes you think that's not "smarter".

Isn't the above supporting the claim that's its an allegory for pursuing knowledge/wisdom?
The story is also more than the eating of the fruit but your interpretation doesn't take that into account. Also, she saw that it was desirable for gaining wisdom prior to eating it.

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

budaatum:
For you, perhaps. We can't exactly discuss Adam and Eve without them, and we should not discard them without first working hard to make the unknown known.

We weren’t discussing Adam and Eve when we first mentioned the Lord and the “nothing in particular” definition can’t work in the Adam and Eve story.

budaatum:
What is your understanding of "lords and gods", KnownUnknown?

The luminaries.

budaatum:
No. Some still fear gods while some don't give a damn just like in olden times.


I do think Adam is a very good example of religious ignorance however you wish to take it.

What is religious ignorance?

budaatum:
Do note that taking it as allegory or literally is blindness.

Understanding the allegory is the cure to the blindness.

budaatum:
You don't have such problems when you read Things Fall Apart you'd find, and should wonder why.

Things fall apart does not represent the foundation of religious belief and it doesn’t fal under the confusion of allegory or literal classification

budaatum:
And yes, you may call it my own interpretation, which is based on my own understanding, as opposed to what one might have been told to ignorantly believe. Hopefully, you don't mind me using my own mind to understand what I read.

They can be slaves or freemen. Makes no difference as long as you don’t insist that your interpretation is right, which you’ve argued with people about.

budaatum:
In your own opinion, did Adam use his senses?
Did Eve use her senses?

Neither were using their senses if you are referring to critical thinking because they are both presented as simpletons to be commanded.

budaatum:
You would find that no lord directly instructed her, but please explain what the potential danger about the fruit was.

The fruit could as well have been poisoned. It could have triggered the decay that eventually killed them.
It’s not like they got smarter after eating the fruit. They realized they were naked but still didn’t make clothes and the Lord had to make them clothes and basically instruction to till the land. One can interpret the story anyway that’s suitable if one doesn’t stick to the actual meaning of the allegory.

So one can say that the fruit was poisonous and that Eve clearly wasn’t “using her senses”.

budaatum:
I added it because you are not the only one I am communicating with even if I quoted you. Take what you want from it and strike out the rest if you want Unknown. The main point, that by "the law, I mean that which points to conduct which benefits the human race and extends its existence", works pretty well too without you being given any land by any lords or gods.

Okay. No need for lords and gods.

budaatum:
Nothing in particular really.

It's more whatever you make of the entire sentence than what I might mean by any one particular word. This after all can't be the first time you've heard "the Lord", so you must have your own meaning or opinion of it through which you can understand the entire sentence.

Of course I’ve heard about “the lord” but just like you’ve proven, it depends on the interlocutor, most of whom are only versed in the exoteric. You say “nothing in particular”, which I think is a way to escape defining terms and clarifying what you mean.

If it means nothing, why add it?
By "the law", I mean that which points to conduct which benefits the human race and extends its existence [s]on the land that the Lord hath given to it.[/s]

budaatum:
No god's uphold any laws, Unknown. Laws are for humans to uphold or not, just that in ancient days the fear of the gods made humans uphold the laws more as we learn from Adam whom we read choose to remain ignorant rather than use his own senses for fear of a lie he was told.

The fear of gods deters some from their worst inclinations and some invoke gods to justify their worst inclinations. Still, some will chose to obey or disobey regardless of god while some discount god altogether. Do you think there is a difference between modern and olden times?

Is Adam a good example to illustrate your point?
If you take Adam to be literal, I can understand the fear of god making him uphold “the law”. If you take Adam as allegory then what you wrote is just your interpretation.

In your interpretation you say Adam didn’t use his senses but is that accurate?

Adam chose to obey the lord while Eve chose to obey the serpent in the heat of the moment. If the serpent had accosted Adam instead of Eve, what makes you think he wouldn’t have “used his senses”?

Was Eve using her senses by eating a potentially dangerous fruit? Or was she just obeying like she obeyed when the lord told her to eat the other fruits?

budaatum:
By "the law", I mean that which points to conduct which benefits the human race and extends its existence on the land that the Lord hath given to it.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history

What do you mean by the Lord?

22jumpstreet:
Like inappropriate sexual relations, incest, sex with animals, Murder, creating Gods from things that where also created, establishing a competent ministry of justice(to protect the weak and poor), stealing,respect for elders ..etc.

The main purpose of laws is for us to live in peace..

Just to reduce chaos and for humans to live in peace..

Do we need a god to create or uphold these laws?

22jumpstreet:
God's universal laws..
Some acts that damages the spirit are prohibited.
For the greater good.

What are God’s universal laws?
What is the greater good?

22jumpstreet:
This is what the wise psalmist said is going to do the upgrade..

“The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭19:7‬ ‭KJV

What do you mean by “the law”

budaatum:
Part, upgrade. For here is much later.

"For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God". Hebrews 7:19

Goes to show how wisdom evolves, and why we must continuously practise kaizen.

What do you mean by “the law”?

A001:
Lols, of course I've used many laptops in the past, including a mini laptop, Mr F = MB lols

It’s F = MA. Get it right. Besides, higher beings write it like that. It was revealed in my lucid dream of the microbial realm.

A001:
Lols, afi mini laptop na. It appears you're delusional.

Okay, maybe you rustled up enough dough for a bigger laptop. You would need a more than a mini laptop for all your jobs and your MSc/PhD.

A001:
They're not meant to be posted casually on Nairaland. Physics is serious work for me, and what you ask for isn't meant for this community.

I don't even plan to post any articles or works I did in the past or am doing at the moment on Nairaland.

After the day's job and having just finished watching the AFCON semifinal match, the next thing is to have a good night sleep, not keep a vigil engaging in Nairaland's cyclical arguments that never end.

Only jobless people do that.

You must be pretty busy between your job as a tech writer, physicist, and theoretical physicist all performed on a mini laptop. Sleep tight and may you have lucid dreams.

You wish you were as “jobless” as I am.

A001:
When you don't know SS1 Physics (SI units, kinematics, vectors and scalars), but you're discussing Advanced Physics ignorantly with a physicist. Lols, Nairaland na funny place

Where is the discussion?
All you, our dear physicist, have done so far is sling insults. That’s cool but I’m still waiting for the equations and explanation or choice about your favored theory.

You don’t seem to be lacking time at the moment.

A001:
Lols. This man is incurably ignorant and irredeemably stupid.

Check the post you quoted again and learn what scalars and vectors are to know why I typed the symbol, a, in bold.

You just keep embarrassing yourself in public.

It's even better for me to stop engaging you, Mr F = MA. MA ko MB ni

F = MA is so embarrassing!! I’ll never live this down. How dare I write F =ma as F = MA. Totally unforgivable.

Now explain a theoretical physics equation like you did F = MA F = ma.

A001:
It seems you're more stupid than I thought. So, if I'm working on some researches and writing some books, I should release my works in public when they're yet to be published.

Instead of wasting my time with cyclical arguments on Nairaland, it's better to organize my ideas, develop them scientifically, and put them in the form of a research paper, published for scrutiny and peer review or in the form of a book.

And how is this my business?

I didn’t say anything about your research or writing that are yet to be published (is your career just budding or are you a theoretical physicist? It seems your expertise changes from post to post. If your career is just budding (MSc/PhD) how are you so far ahead that you are working on books?). I said post some of your equations and explain them. They don’t have to be related to your “research and books” or be original.

Do you favor string theory or quantum loop theory? Why?


These should be very simple questions for someone of humongous genius.

A001:
No, there's nothing like F = MA in Physics as stated above.

It's good you changed it to the correct equation, F = ma, which is even correctly put as F = m[b]a[/b]

To prevent ambiguity and confusion, the correct use of symbols is crucial in Physics.

And a, the symbol for acceleration, is different from A, the symbol for area or A magnetic vector potential or A, the S.I unit of electric current (Ampere).

Judging from your posts and comments, it's clear you don't even know the basics in Physics.

Nairaland is a funny place.

Congratulations, you copied from some source and corrected simple typos.
Theoretical Physics equations aren’t as easily searchable otherwise you would have posted some already.

Nairaland is indeed a funny place. Where else can you easily converse with a theoretical physicist?

A001:
And why should I answer these questions when I already told you my posts are not meant to be believed?

Why should I release personal details about myself on an anonymous forum? To what end?

[s]Where do you do your research?
Which universities are you associated with?
Have you published any papers?[/s]
Can you post some of your equations and what they prove?
Are you leaning toward Quantum Loop Theory or String Theory? Why?
[s]Do you do this Theoretical Physics in Nigeria?[/s]

You don’t have to tell me not to believe your posts. Prima facie, they are simply unbelievable.

A001:
Read the post again but this time slowly to comprehend the clear statements I made there. Can you tell me where I told you all things have a source or origin?

I don't think you read and understand the post you quoted. And it's obvious you don't know Jack about agnosticism (check the attached image).

Whether agnostic or not, every sane person thinks and talks about the source or origin of all things. But it's not everyone that calls the source of all things God.

Show me where I made such an assertion.

Your comments don't prove this. And then you don't even read things carefully.

Show me where I told you God/god is a scientific term. I don't really have the time for these cyclical arguments on Nairaland when you don't understand simple and clear expressions I made above.

Nothing is a scientific/philosophical concept. It says the Universe can arise ex nihilo (from nothing ).

If the hypothesis turns out to be true, that means the Universe has no origin or first cause.

Then, it's even a scientific fact something can come from nothing.

Personally, I posit the Universe can be self-created or come from an earlier universe that's self-created.

These sources explain the concept of nothing well:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_comes_from_nothing
Lawrence Krauss' A Universe from Nothing.

It's better for me to not to go into this aspect at all. I don't have the time to engage in this sort of length arguments. And these longs posts take time to type.

You can call my points and assertions anything you like; that has no real effect.

No need to go into this. All these Nairaland arguments are time wasting.

Maybe later in the year, I can create a thread about some of your inputs when I'm less busy.

I don't want to start the New Year with Nairaland arguments that don't add a dime to my account.

Lol. All these are a waste of time. The pertinent questions are the ones below.

Where do you do your research?
Which universities are you associated with?
Have you published any papers?
Can you post some of your equations and what they prove?
Are you leaning toward Quantum Loop Theory or String Theory? Why?
Do you do this Theoretical Physics in Nigeria?

A001:
You're the one making those ideas (quantum mysticism and co) up in your head because you're clearly ignorant about the established concepts and principles in Physics, and the hypotheses and ideas modern physicists in various parts of the world are working on.

(Then, you can't even spell mysticism correctly.)

Even the simple equation you put up there is trash; there's nothing like F = MA in Physics. First learn the basics in Physics before you discuss about what you don't know.

Better stop discussing anything related to Physics because it's obvious you've no idea about what you're talking about.

Lol. F = ma doesn’t exist in physics says the theoretical physicist.

Mysticism. Have I redeemed myself in your eyes now that mysthycism has been spelt without a typo?

alphaNomega:
Guy this your string theory picture na wash.

Can you imagine the scale of what was described? It sounds worse than the trash you find from the Bible.

Scientists still have to prove this claim.

Don’t view theoretical physics through the lens of mysticism. The physicists who actually do the work do not assert anything similar to what Quantum Mythicists claim.
People who barely understand F = MA making theoretical physics claims is the height of absurdity.

A001:
That means you don't understand what agnosticism is all about. An agnostic says there may be a God or not, meaning the nature of God (meaning the source of all things) is unknown.

Deists believe in God, but I don't.

You are not an Agnostic because you have created your own concept of God and claim it’s unknowable. The gods the agnostic say may exist or not is any god presented to them; the same gods you refer to as ancient aliens. The God you claim you don’t know exist is your own creation, so how are you not a deist?

Agnostic aren’t speaking about the “source of all things”, they are expressing skepticism about claims made by others. They certainly don’t reclassify Gods as aliens so they can call their own concept of “God” unknown.

It’s similar to Christian’s who claim other gods are demons but their god is the real one.


Why should the source of all things be “God”. If you call it “God”,you’re making a huge assumption already about its singular nature.

A001:
This simply shows you're not widely read.

But I’m widely read enough to recognize science fiction influenced by religious fables.

A001:
It seems you don't know science itself has its roots in (natural) philosophy and that many principles and concepts in science today started as philosophical concepts and arguments before the Age of Scientific Enlightenment.

Philosophy is the mother of science, of all disciplines. That's why every student of Physics in universities takes courses in Philosophy.

As said earlier, scientists (astrophysicists and cosmologists) conduct research on the source or origin of the Universe.
Maybe you should do a quick Google search to check the meaning of cosmology.
God, as defined by some, is the origin of the Universe. Some others take the Universe as God.
But God isn't a scientific term and even if scientists discover an origin of the Universe in the future, most likely, they won't call it God.

You could have saved yourself some time (which you don’t have much of) by just agreeing that god isn’t a scientific term and science isn’t about looking for the supernatural.

A001:
It's all semantics. And based on the current understanding of the universe, it's possible the Universe has no origin but arose from nothing.

What is nothing?

A001:
Of course, it's not all the historical facts about them that are true, and most are even exaggerated tales concocted by their worshippers.
And also, it's not all of them that really existed.

No dispute here.

A001:
I don't have the time to argue much about this. When I am discussing with someone that knows a lot about human history and language development, I'd know from the depth of their takes on issues.

There is no argument because you are just making claims that can be categorically dismissed because they are your assumptions about early history.
e.g. you claim that it was singular individuals that came up with language, which is absurd because language evolved/evolves and it most likely wasn’t created by singular persons. Unless we are talking about fictional languages created by linguists but those are still based on extant languages.

Explain how one person would have come up with Tagalog.

A001:
Yes, if someone is existing today, but dies later on in the future, they become an alien to this planet.

Aren’t they just dead?!! What do you mean by they “become alien to this planet”?

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/alien

3. ADJECTIVE
If something is alien to you or to your normal feelings or behaviour, it is not the way you would normally feel or behave.
[formal]
Such an attitude is alien to many businesspeople. [+ to]

5. COUNTABLE NOUN
In science fiction, an alien is a creature from outer space.

A001:
My career in Physics is in the budding stage (MSc/PhD). Sorry, I can't disclose more personal information about myself on an anonymous online forum.

I'll address the other questions when I'm less busy.

Budding stage?
You claimed to be a Theoretical Physicist, now it’s budding stage.
You don’t have to disclose any personal information to display your expertise and qualifications.
Budding stage or flowering stage, that thread doesn’t evince that you are a physicist talk less of a theoretical physicist.

waldigit:
On that note I submit that "fact" may not be the "truth" . Do you agree?

Wow!

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Well according to the so called Christians their God will forgive you no matter the offense y've committed..

Thats’s why I love it when they harm each other!!

damosky12:
You spent so much time to copy, paste, and quote the article just to vent your pent-up aggression? Interesting...

So much façade for confidence. So much pseudo-knowledge packaged as content.

If I were you, I would try to achieve something noteworthy with my existence first before spewing tirades against the author or the pastors. At least, try and create anything that's 1/50 as ingenious as their innovations. Almost anyone can afford data and android these days you know.

As it stands, your voice is not heard. Your logic is logical to no one but you. You are alone in your delusions here. My few cents.

Between the pastors and the likes of Momodu, the country’s future is very bright!

damosky12:
Nigerian Pastors -By Dele Momodu

Living Faith, a single Church, is schooling 16 thousand of your Citizens in Higher institutions and many more at primary and Secondary levels yet you think you have the capacity to waggle your tongue

Nothing impressive about a tax free business awash with cash diversifying its holdings. This is done by other business enterprises. As long as the curriculum results in well rounded graduates, there is nothing to criticize.

damosky12:
They are running their churches 100% better than the way the president is running the country.

Comparing them to the government is a very low bar. In terms of corrupt organizations, they do run a more efficient ship than the government.
It's a low overhead business with plenty of cash coming in weekly, limited amount of staff, and no oversight. The authoritarian leader of the cult church also doesn't have to balance the interests of various corrupt parties like the government leaders do; he only has to worry about his own interest, so it's easier to run a more efficient ship.

damosky12:
The fact is many Nigerians are loosing it. They can’t think beyond going after pastors.
In what way has pastors prevented Nigeria from owning an airline
In what way do pastors prevent Nigeria from having industries.

They go after everybody corrupt including pastors. Pastors do not prevent Nigeria from owning a airline or having industries, but that doesn't prevent their religious industry from be assailable. They are a symptom of a backwards and corrupt society so they are ripe for criticism.

damosky12:
Less than 0.0001% of pastors own Jets in Nigeria—-but no, let us forget the over 70% that earn less than 50k/month and focus on the 0.0001% than own jets.

The CEO of McDonalds make $21 million a year while a Store Manager makes $100,000 and works double the time. Guess who rides on private jets between the both of them.
If people want to criticize McDonald's they won't criticize the Store Manager or criticize his earnings; they'd focus on the CEO. The same goes for the mega church pastors.

All pastors are criticized, but the fat cows will get the most insults because they are the most visible. The only value they add to society are the comfortable lies they tell to the willfully ignorant and gullible, and others looking to salve their existential dread. Other than that, of what use is their lies?

damosky12:
If you run your governments the way church leaders are running churches. Nigeria might be a Qatar right now.

That's a lie. The churches are as corrupt as the government and their business model cannot be used to run an efficient functioning country.

damosky12:
In all these argument Canaanland has had stable electricity and water supply for its over 15,000 residents since 1999 and is already on the verge of converting waste to electricity.

Lowering the cost if delivering your goods and services is what all businesses do. Since they are awash with that tax-free cash, it behooves them to invest in power generation instead of wasting money on fuel and generators.

damosky12:
RCCG is producing 25MW of electricity.
Yet your … govt you pay compulsory tax, vat, CIT, Pet Tax has not been able to give you light decades after independence.

The government can't give you stable electricity because the Generator and Petroleum cabal make a lot of money from keeping the country dark. Some of the money end up in churches as tithes and offering.

damosky12:
Living Faith has more than 25,000 Staff and has never owed any of them salary!
Yet your state govt that collects Allocation plus Tax cannot pay full salary.

Living Faith has fewer hands in the pot compared to the government so they can simultaneously pay a pittance and stash the rest in their pocket.

damosky12:
Living Faith, a single Church, is schooling 16 thousand of your Citizens in Higher institutions and many more at primary and Secondary levels yet you think you have the capacity to waggle your tongue

They can school 160,000 but it doesn't make them unassailable.

damosky12:
I went for Shiloh all through and stayed in the staff quarters, yet it was electricity all through; for one second, water did not go off in spite of thousands that were present.On a normal day you won’t walk 20 metres before you find a segregated bin to dispose your waste.

The entire area was fully covered by different layers of Security with multiple CCTV and IoT enabled barrier gates.

Awwwww, he went for Shiloh. No wonder he's chatting nonsense. Disney World want their customers to come back so they make sure they have a good experience. Living Faith is no different.

damosky12:
And yet your Abuja, capital of the Nation does not have CCTV yet you open your …. mouth to talk down on pastors!

Maybe the country should become a theocracy under Living Faith, maybe Abuja will get cctv

damosky12:
Between the guy that calls himself Area father and Bishop David Oyedepo Ministries International who resigned a federal job and started a Church of 3 people and has widened it to over 6,000 churches globally, over 200 schools, 2 hospitals, Over 1000 hectares farm for livestock and crop, Another farm in Igbesa and CU.

With 15,000 housing Estate in progress,
Water factories,
Zeolite factory,
One Research center,
a scholarship fund,
Beverage factories,
10 million books,
Publishing house,
Radio Station etc

Tax-free money goes very far.

damosky12:
who has had more impact or who will have better capacity to govern the nation…??

Definitely not the cult leader that doesn't answer to anyone. A church is not a country.

damosky12:
Canaanland hosts hundreds of thousands of people every week yet no stampede ever.
Government gathered people at stadium for recruitment exercise and before it even began, many were dead!
Living Faith already has a master plan till 2032
yet govt does not have a plan for 2020!

What's the plan. Increasing ignorance in the society so they can keep the cash rolling in?

damosky12:
You know Illogicality is the trademark of most Africans. They fail to think beyond their prejudices and sentiments hence Africa has remained on the ground.

Mr. Momodu is a shining example of that "African illogicality". Africa remains on the ground because the place is littered by ignorant, myopic, and superstitious people like him.

damosky12:
Can we imagine how developed the nation would have been if we have people with the right mindset at the helm of the nation’s affairs?

The corrupt church leaders you are advocating for are not qualified to helm any nation's affairs. In a world were you need visionary leaders, what can a pastor offer?
Running a cult where your followers have been brainwashed to give you money is different from running a country.

damosky12:
God bless all our pastors.
THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE CAREFUL WITH THEIR TONGUE.”

Your god is worthless and you need to stop being servile towards pastors. There's nothing good about people who scam others and enrich themselves in the process. If the society wasn't so impoverished and corrupt, these cretins wouldn't be placed on the pedestal they are placed on. Even in more developed societies, the most impoverished and downtrodden are usually the ones under the corrupt spells of these useless pastors. A thriving society with intellectually vigorous people is not looking at purveyors of ignorance for leadership.

DeepSight:
And could that reasonably be the case? A vacuum which is the source of the universe and still part of the universe? Is that not contradictory?
At all events, bear in mind of course, that no such perfect vacuum is observed anywhere.

You are the one claiming the universe resides in vacuum of real time.
I’m just pointing at the similarity of his virtual particles in a vacuum to your claims.

His claims about the vacuum being “nothing” is the issue anyone would have with his claims.

You are the one who should bear in mind that the real time vacuum doesn’t exist or you haven’t done anything but made claims based on credulity.

Explain how the real time is self existent maybe we will get somewhere.

DeepSight:
Beautiful! - very very close to exactly how I see it! - Save that infinite real time is not nothing either!

But keep in mind that his vacuum is part of the universe not independent of it.

DeepSight:
Justcool describes what I mean properly here -

https://www.nairaland.com/775552/speed-light-time-einstein-extra-universal#9318086

And his two succeeding posts on same.

You always rightly criticize that one physicist’s idea of “nothing” because it involves a vacuum but the idea supports your cosmology. The universe could have sprung out of the vacuum of infinite real time, which has infinite possibilities.