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Righteousness2:
The Spiritual controls the Physical

DeepSight:
Have you given thought to the evolution of the sexes and sexual reproduction, for example?
Just curious.

LordReed:
No man! He will still catch you. If he tells you the sky is blue, ask him which resources on your land is he after so that you can negotiate a price. If you look at the sky, he will steal the land from under you and tell you its a "Protectorate".

budaatum:
In Nigeria, almost yes, unless you read Arabic. Our forefathers did not read books. My own forefathers were divining Ifa. In most of Europe too, reading was by Christian education. The church needed preachers and bookkeepers so they educated.

budaatum:
Pre-Christian education of course existed. The Greeks and Romans had reading before Christianity, as did the Chinese, the Egyptians and lots of others who's education had nothing to do with Christianity before or after but it was mostly reserved for the few wherever it existed. Christianity proselytised to the masses by teaching reading, especially the Protestants who by defeating the flaming swords of unreadable Latin that barred it from the masses, handed to us in our own tongues.

budaatum:
Us, Nigerians? God Jesus in our milk and often the sperm that made us unless its Allah or Ogun and Sango etc in some dying rare cases.

DeepSight:
If I hadnt, I would not say that overall, I accept the theory.

DeepSight:
Are you sure you have taken the time to examine some of the counter arguments made, while you recommend college to others?

budaatum:
Mostly, what they give you in school. It evolved out of Christianity.

budaatum:
I wonder how many people would have heard of Roman/Greek mythology if not for their Christian education that taught them to read.

What do you think?

DeepSight:
Fair enough, thank you.
Save to repeat that as I have said before - I accept evolution even if I question parts of the theory of evolution. And continuous questioning ought to be the stuff of science but these days you will find that questioning the theory of evolution is almost deemed a taboo. Let me extract a part of an old article I wrote -

[i] "The Theory of Evolution is not something that I dismiss at a personal level, nevertheless, within the scientific academic community, I cannot help seeing the same phenomenon play itself out: Evolution is scientific orthodoxy in today’s world and any scientist who conducts any research, writes any paper or expresses any opinion contrary to the Theory of Evolution will quickly find himself or herself in a most perilous position with respect to his or her career. There have been professors who have seen their careers come to a crashing halt for this. This is very sad – especially because science, of all endeavors, ought to be the in the vanguard of truly free and open inquiry in all directions. However today, there is hardly any difference between the scientific community’s approach to divergent views on Evolution and the attitude of the Roman Inquisition to heresy."

DeepSight:
I don't think one needs to take a college course on evolution to be able to raise reasonable questions about evolution

DeepSight:
Also, your response to me could just as well been served in response to him,, dont you think.

DeepSight:
Deranged, yes, derangically, never.

DeepSight:
Regardless how moronic you might consider his post, I am not sure that this ad-hominem soaked invective does anything to address anything, good sir. I for one, am tired of those who respond to any critique of the theory of evolution with the tired old lame line that the critique is too stupid to be worth a response. Even I, who believe in evolution, have serious questions about it, and honestly it is simply tiresome to have these sorts of haughty escapist responses when those questions are raised.

This is not to say that I have endorsed his particular line of questioning wholesale.

efficiencie:
As expected...they start as though they are intellectuals but when they encounter what seems to be a peer they resort puerile shenanigans. Lol.

efficiencie:
Your conclusion about DOg being a supernatural ape is based on the assumption that since man has similar characteristics with Apes then DOg must be an Ape but your assumption has flaws. (1) You mention "Ape" like that is the description of a single specie and you claim DOg must be like such a specie. Presently there are about 20 species of apes (Source) so which of these species is the exact form of DOg. Remember you have to search for the earliest specie of apes in the evolutionary tree. Good luck with that search. (2) For your statement to make sense you have to also assume that man evolved from Apes (and hence Apes were created in the image of DOg). However there are questions you cannot answer concerning the evolution of man from apes. (a) Evolution still cannot conclusively tell us how matter transited from inorganic to organic. (b) Evolution could not explain the Cambrian explosion. (c) At what point in the evolutionary tree did the mind evolve? (that is even if we know what the "mind" is) (d) We are yet to discover the site of the mind-body interaction and we also don't know how mind-body interaction evolved. (e) Evolution does not explain the evidence of intelligent design observed in all of creation (the double helix structure of the DNA, the fine-tuning of the cosmos with the incredibly fine precision of physical constants, the comprehensibility of the cosmos and the incredibly impossible odds that the universe generated information by accident (origin of information accident).

These points all attack your tacit recourse to evolution as the basis of your argument! Quite frankly you have to be an undisputed champion among fools to believe that random undirected events happening over billions upon billions of years could account for the amazing levels of complex ordering we see today. Someone will tell me that the appearance of the Fibonacci sequence in flowers, plants, crustaceans etc is a sheer accident. Madness on an unimaginable level.

NNTR:
loll. You are in good company. You're among friends brah and that was a honest and heartfelt wish. I bear you no grudge

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
loll. Be blessed, brother.

NNTR:
Human beings are trichotomous, meaning they have body, spirit and soul.

The life of the flesh aka body is in the blood, while the life of the soul is in the spirit aka ruach aka breath of God

When some is clinically dead, meaning has brain death, the spirit aka ruach aka breath of God leaves the body, as it returns back to its Owner, God, the Creator. The body returns back to being dust, while the soul leaves the body enroute to a departure lounge area, to wait for Judgment Day date and the soul's departure destination

Yes, has abstract concepts such as love (i.e. unconditional love), unselfish concern for others, joy (i.e. feelings of great inner pleasure & happiness), peace, patience (i.e. not the ability to wait, but how we act while waiting) kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

It is really interesting and true that ever since God committed Himself to create human beings in His image and in accordance to the likeness of the Godhead, human beings have had the courage to want to return the favour or just completely and entirely deny His existence, loll

loll

Wow anthropomorphism

I am sure you have a convincing alternative narrative that explains how creation, including of course human beings and all came about

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Ahasco:
wow you dug this out, very inciteful. Thanks for the heads up

OtemAtum:
Worldly Music
Chapter One
A song of Otem: Think
1. Think of any number in your mind. Add five to that number. Add four to it. Add three to it. Subtract the number you have in your mind from it. Your answer is twelve

NNTR:
Without ranting and raving, but keeping it short and sweet, will tell you, that the Bunkum resides inside the human body, and serves as a revolving door or gateway with access to the spleen with its links to your carnal desires and access to your juju man, which potential to connect to the juju realm.

The Bunkum has four faculties, which namely are: sub-consciousness, intuition, volition and prime directives.

The Bunkum, is a 'sacred vessel', essentially, a thing which is eagerly pursued and vigorously sought after by the FORCE to either kill, steal or destroy, and sometimes f#ck. It equally also is eagerly pursued and vigorously sought after by the Artificer to redeem, save, reconcile back to Themselves and wondrous emotions.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Without ranting and raving, but keeping it short and sweet, will tell you, that the soul resides inside the human body, and serves as a revolving door or gateway with access to the body with its links to your carnal desires and access to your spirit man, which potential to connect to the spirit realm.

The soul has four faculties, which namely are: consciousness, intellect, will and emotions.

The soul, is a 'holy grail', essentially, a thing which is eagerly pursued and vigorously sought after by the devil to either kill, steal or destroy. It equally also is eagerly pursued and vigorously sought after by the Creator to redeem, save, reconcile back to Himself and love.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Without ranting and raving, but keeping it short and sweet, will tell you, that the soul resides inside the human body, and serves as a revolving door or gateway with access to the body with its links to your carnal desires and access to your spirit man, which potential to connect to the spirit realm.

The soul has four faculties, which namely are: consciousness, intellect, will and emotions.

The soul, is a 'holy grail', essentially, a thing which is eagerly pursued and vigorously sought after by the devil to either kill, steal or destroy. It equally also is eagerly pursued and vigorously sought after by the Creator to redeem, save, reconcile back to Himself and love.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Genesis 1:26
Then God said,
“Let Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) make man in Our image, according to Our likeness
[not physical, but a spiritual personality and moral likeness];
and let them have complete authority over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the cattle,
and over the entire earth, and over everything that creeps and crawls on the earth.”

You revel in your humongous faux pas. Shame you didnt factor in that God is incorporeal

By the way, its not only Apes that human beings have similarities with, human beings share all sorts of other similarities with other animal species too.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

efficiencie:
If this axiom is accepted then we need to understand what it means to be created in the image of God. God is has a form which as observed by Ezekiel appears like that of a man. Hence the current form or physiognomy of a man is borrowed from God (Ezekiel 1:26). God feels emotions. He can get angry (Exodus 32:11). He can be pleased (Hebrews 11:6). He has a compassion (Genesis 21:17) etc.

DeepSight:
God ITSELF is, and always will be, utterly ineffable.

HellVictorinho3:
You talked about a coin.




You didn't state what you were......theist or atheist.... you can't be neither

HellVictorinho3:
You didn't answer the question

Myer:
If I may ask.
If you're neither an atheist or a theist, then what are you?

fergie001:
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hupernikao:
. Okay. I have seen you