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KaLuCh:
➜OK. I'll bite. I'll give you a scripture. If you care to know, read. If you don't, don't.
SPEAKING IN TONGUES DOES NOT MEAN SPEAKING A KNOWN HUMAN LANGUAGE.
➜ What happened in the book of Acts is not how you guys erroneously read it. The apostles spoke in unknown tongues, but God opened the understanding of the people who heard them and they could understand the apostles in their very own language. You can see proof of this from the bible verses below. This still happens today. You can ask questions or bring up objections and let's talk about them.

So, What you are essentially insinuating is that Jesus Christ of Israel, who promised that His followers would speak in languages they did not learn—implying these are languages that are or at least were in existence at some point in time —, lied? 🙄

2. Eyin o niro oshi! Where is the statement in bold included in the passage you quote from the book of Acts? Nonsense and eegridient! 🙄

smokinloud:
➜ Why will Paul ask believers to pray for the gift of interpretation if the unknown tongues of every tongue is understood already and an existing language?.
➜ Where does the bible say that tongues must be in existing language?.
➜ Why does it edify the spirit alone if it were a language we can just use Google translate to understand?
➜ How do you know that the word "Shabahbahbah" doesn't have meaning in someone else's language or even in a defunct language?
➜ Secondly, the church fathers believe in speaking in unknown tongues and they never teach that it must be an existing language. It's the heretic teachers of modern Christianity that teach and think carnality that don't understand speaking of tongues.
➜ - What's the difference between Xenoglossia and Glossolalia?
➜ Why does Lalia, as in Glossolalia (speaking of tongues, the Greek word for speaking in tongues), means to "babble" if speaking of tongues doesn't involve babbling like "SHABAHBAHBAH"?.
➜ Why do you think speaking of tongues shouldn't involve babbling when the bible says tongues are unintelligible speech according to 1 Corinthians 14:2?
1 Corinthians 14:2
[2]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: FOR NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. [/b]
➜ On any biblical doctrine you have no knowledge, just keep quiet instead of misleading people. Teachers are to face stringent punishment according to the bible Shay you remember?!

1. Paul's statements were meant instead as suggestions to his fellow Israelites who lived at that time in the land of Judeah, a land that was an enclave of the promised land given to the Israelites by YHWH.

2. Jesus Christ of Israel promised His followers that they would speak in tongues they never learned, suggesting that these tongues would be existing/or at least have existed but were unknown or unlearned by them.

3. Edify wetin?

4. I am glad you said word and not language. Also, repeating the same syllables/ or words over and over does not make a language.

5. Bullsheet! Your religion of Christianity church fathers were non-Israelites, many of them of Roman ancestry, who sought to hijack the movement that was originally started by Jesus Christ of Israel in Jerusalem for Israelites alone. They are the ones who have your head filled with these ludicrous ideas you carry around today. And heresy, well, that was a tactic used by your Christian church fathers to oust and defame those who did not agree with their own set of doctrines and traditions.

6. You have access to a dictionary, right? Xenoglossia refers to speaking a language— a full-blown language complete with the patterns expected of a human language— one that was not previously taught, while Glossolalia is the attempt to foolishly claim one speaks a language by way of repeating syllables — gibberish.

7. Speaking in tongues of the religion of Christianity amounts to the repeating of syllables in an attempt to mimic human language — glossolalia. Hence, the Christian tradition of speaking in tongues is essentially speaking in gibberish.

8. WOW... this Paul wey una dey throw under bus left and right ehn? The man go don roll many times for his grave so.

In the book of Acts, we learn that the original act of speaking in tongues as practiced by the Israelite disciples of Jesus Christ of Israel was the speaking of intelligible human languages that could be understood by other humans. The speaking in tongues ritual practiced by those of the religion of Christianity is absolutely nothing like what the original apostles of Jesus Christ of Israel had. 😂😂

9. See the person wey dey talk! Biblical doctrine? What nonsense is that! 😂😂😂

P.S. Jesus Christ of Israel stated in His Gospels that the doctrines and traditions of men — religion — were an abomination to His Father and those who follow it are not of Him or His Father.

@BouquiLake said....You are challenging another church... You left the enemy and started fighting another part of the body of christ?
Hm

But that is what people of all religions do. They attack each other to claim superiority over the rest. Even the Muslims are famous for their sunni-shia rivalry!😁😁😁

mastermaestro:
➜At least before you come boldly to lecture people on Biblical doctrines, study diligently first. There are two kinds of tongues. One, of men, and the second, of angels. As far back as the Old Testament, the second tongue which is prevalent today was known to GOD'S messenger.
Read these verses below and learn so you stop misleading others.
1 Corinthians 13:1 KJV
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
Daniel 5:5,7-9,24-28 KJV
In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote. [7] The king cried aloud to bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. And the king spake, and said to the wise men of Babylon, Whosoever shall read this writing, and shew me the interpretation thereof, shall be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about his neck, and shall be the third ruler in the kingdom. [8] Then came in all the king's wise men : but they could not read the writing, nor make known to the king the interpretation thereof. [9] Then was king Belshazzar greatly troubled, and his countenance was changed in him, and his lords were astonied. [24] Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written. [25] And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. [26] This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE ; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. [27] TEKEL ; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. [28] PERES ; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.

But there's a major problem with this assumption of yours regarding what was written on the wall, and that is that it was written in a language foreign to humans. Daniel never said that the code on the wall was written in the language of angels, though. So, why would you think to link it to an alien language?

Also, you people keep saying there are two kinds of tongues with one belonging to humans and another belonging to angels, but if you read the book you keep miscontruing well, you would have seen where Jesus Christ of Israel — the one whom Paul insists is his master — regards His followers — children of God — are angels, and also insists that the children of the devil are also angels — different factions of course. Yes, Jesus Christ of Israel regarded His followers as angels, and it is to them that He gave the sign of speaking in a human language with they had never learned — only those who are angels of Jesus Christ of Israel have this ability. When Paul wrote of human language and of angel language, Paul most likely had been trying to address separately the language one learned— he regarded this as human — and the unlearned language — he regarded this as angel language.

mirrael68:
➜Most of the tongues spoken is directed to God and it's for EDIFICATION and not for interpretation. Well all these controversies is because such tongues is for individual prayer closets or to be prayed silently in public.

Stop lying!

If we ask you now how this thing dey edify your person, you go begin to sermonize — run around in a wheel like a hamster.

WeirdAlien:
➜We really don't know. Not one pastor or G.O. can tell us exactly why - but just theories based on their own doctrines.

Scammers dey tell their victims the truth? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

jayAjoku:
➜so those experts know all the languages that have existed for ages
➜ and all the complexities involved with those languages?
➜ really? do you know how old the earth is and how many civilizations and languages have peaked and gone?

Did experts need knowledge of all humans that ever existed before they could successfully map the human Genome? 🙄🙄🙄

2. Complexities involved in human languages? Are you sure you are OK? 🙄🙄🙄
3. Look at this one! Baby language, for example, has not really evolved much since the very first babies born on this planet. The average baby rarely spends its first days around other babies, and so we couldn't say that babies have learned much from each other over time. Yet baby language has a more intricate pattern than the shalabalabaloo syllables your pastors spew at you lot. 😂😂😂😂😂

pavlovt:
➜You people should study Bible small now. There are tongue of men and there are tongue of angels.
➜Tongue of men can be recognized by men in their dialect e.g I learned of a German that came to Ilesha in 30s and finding it difficult to communicate then switch to tongue - lo and behold he was speaking in Ijesha language. Tongue of Angels even devil is confused because you communicate directly to God through the help of holy spirit.
1 Corinthians 13:1
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

Una go dey quote Bible like say e de go out of fashion. The same Bible talk say Jesus Christ of Israel's followers — children of God — are angels, and the children of the devil are equally angels— only they are of different factions.

2. See delusional formulations. No wonder the religion of Christianity boasts of over 46000 different interpretations of the same things. Na wa oo! 🙄🙄🙄

Omooba77:
✓ Why don't we have miracles as recorded in Acts of Apostles and Bible?

Because the religion of Christianity, what you have today, is a fraudulent copy, or an attempt, of the original movement that existed before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD and the eventual destruction of Judeah. It could never yield the same results of be the same.

agabaI23:
✓ Assuming it is not a scam as you said, will you accept Christ because of this?

Accept your Christian idol because of a scam? Are you OK at all?

melanch:
✓ Hi brothers and sisters,
This has been on my mind lately: Should Christians actively participate in politics? Should we run for office, campaign, vote, or even protest when necessary? Or should we focus only on spiritual matters and avoid the political space altogether?
Some argue that politics is too corrupt and divisive for believers. Others say we’re called to be salt and light even in government and policymaking.
What do you think? Can political engagement be part of our Christian witness, or is it a distraction from our true mission?
Scriptures, experiences, and perspectives are welcome!

You never go RCCG where many of their top pastors are politicians.😁

Jhoneyman:
✓ You don't build a doctrine in the Christian Faith on common sense, you build it on the Word of GOD. And not just what a particular passage of the Bible says, but on the whole counsel of GOD as distilled from all other passages of the Bible speaking about the same same issue or subject. Then you can get a clear understanding and revelations through the HOLY SPIRIT about the whole mind of GOD over the subject matter.
✓ When you build your doctrine without considering all available passages talking about the subject matter in the Bible you definitely always end preaching and teaching heresy. It's not always that people around understand what is spoken as tongues.
Check the Scriptures below and understand the heresy of your submissions.

Yet every one of your many doctrines directly defy this Word of God and this whole counsel of this God which you all pretend to follow? How come?

2. For instance, this God you lor pretend to follow warns that all doctrines and traditions of men are an abomination to Him. He insists that all those who follow these doctrines and traditions of men have nothing to do with Him. So, how can you claim your doctrines and church traditions are built on the word and whole counsel of this same God whom your every move defies?

Expanse2020:
Did you include The Church of Satan too

I suggest you focus on your own religion to realize that you are in the same boat as this other religion.

jayAjoku:
how do you know shahhababa is not human language that is comprehensible? have you heard all the human languages that have ever existed across civilizations?

It ain't human at all! Language experts have confirmed this since it does not fit the pattern of any language that has ever existed among humans, at any point in time.

You as a human know that you don't need to first hear all human languages that have ever existed on this planet to realize how some ideas do not just fit in with your brains understanding of what a language should be. Repeating the same nonsensical syllables does not amount to a human language. Even baby language is more developed than that nonsense your pastors spew at you lot on a daily basis.

immortalcrown:
What about a woman whose sexual stamina is too much for just one husband? Is it right for her to have many husbands?

Religion of Christianity's deity is interested in the servicing of dicks and vaginas. 🤔🤔

Expanse2020:
✓ So we can marry more wives in Christianity too

Your own religion says you that there are 72 virgins waiting for you on the other side -- an ecstasy-filled orgy for your dicks glorification --after having 4 wives here is better in what way? If people dey talk know to waka pass abeg! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

GlobalWay:
✓ The Adversary is so desperate because his time if fast running out! He hates the fact that despite all the Lust, Poverty and Killings he has unleashed on Humanity, many Humans still clings to the SPIRIT of Our CREATOR through HIS Son that saved us. Satan has infiltrated the Church of CHRIST AHAYAHsha HaMashiac with many of his Agents that don't even know they are doing his works of scattering the Church.
President Donald Trump's Invitation and Recognition of the Great Pastor Kumuyi proves that the Eyes of Heaven and eyes the whole World is on Deeper Life Church, as a rare Cynosure that Heaven has helped to maintain importance of Holiness in this hopelessly Lust inebriated End Time World. Just as GOD would Not have destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah if HE found unlustful Church and Souls, genuine Born Again Deeper Life People in various Countries of this World are what Heaven still sees and still Restrains Pouring out HIS unprecedented Anger upon this increasingly Lustful Wicked World. You and I better daily Thank CREATOR of Heaven and Earth for Deeper Life Church! HalleAHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH!!!!

See them! Awon gullible sheeples! 😩😩😩😩

ArclordZerro:
✓ But shaa, I get one question. White people wey dey our churches no dey see visions to share at all? Why is it only our own people that are this dramatic? Na only us dey see revelations? I no understand. Nawao.

These revelations na tool of manipulation Africans use against each other. Even Kumuyi is guilty if using it against his own gullible followers that is why many of them are so brainwashed that all the many lies he has told over the years, they quickly brush aside as nothing to concern themselves with.

Africans are as a whole a very gullible people na reason why these so-called revelations still dey work on them and their generations like salt on worms. Oyinbo don move past that nonsense tay.

muyico:
His own god which I don't know anything abt

Stop yapping nonsense! Na the same Deity(ies) if the religion of Christianity him dey follow so. With over 46,000 different interpretations/ denominations wetin you expect? Say every Christian go see things the same way you do? 😂😂😂😂😂

melanch:
➜If speaking in tongues uplifts you and doesn’t harm or deceive anyone, by all means, keep at it.
If jumping and dancing in prayer brings you peace and progress — and no one is hurt or misled — please continue.
Do what works for you, as long as no one is harmed, scammed, or left wounded by your practice.

Na this do-what-works-for-you attitude lead to Christianity alone having over 46000 different denominations/interpretations for the same things. O ga oo! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Amotolongbo:
the breads are the same, the difference is just the label

I disagree as there would not exist over 45,000 different denominations/interpretations/,cults in that one religion alone of they were all the differences were just a matter of labels.

GanagiBitrus:
The problem is that most of these false doctrines are not preached out of genuine mistake & ignorance, but done deliberately to control the minds of followers for selfish & personal gains.

Na wa ooO!

OLAADEGBU:
➜Young Minister Be Careful Deeper Life Is Not A Cult - Pastor Kumuyi Warns

Deeper life na ogbonge cult abeg! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

OLAADEGBU:
I Was Wrong: Pastor Kumuyi Recalls His Past

They locked you out of the church so you turned around and decided to create a cult where you would lock out anyone who does not bow to your own rules and ideas — ideas which have changed so many times over the years with no even a single apology from you to those who were possibly harmed or deceived by those delusions of yours. Nonsense and Eegridient! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

italkdlonly:
➜The revered holiness preacher, while speaking during the Global Workers’ Conference at the Deeper Life International Conference Centre, decried his first wife’s death, saying the devil took advantage of his absence while he was ministering at the church’s retreat that day.
“I was preaching here on Saturday, 11th April 2009, and the devil worked on my absence. My wife was at home because she had a challenge. I was driving out, the devil came, but I did not remember to close the spiritual door that nobody will sneak into that place (his house) and when I finished the Faith Clinic that morning, I received a message that my beloveth wife was gone.
“I ran to IBTC (home); I saw it had happened and I met some people there; they were praying and the Lord assured me that I should let it go, let that go, don’t bother about it,” the cleric said.

According to the story, the woman died of illness. No be say she accidentally fall off a building or get hit by a truck. The woman was sick for a period of time before she died. Kumuyi must have been home on many of those days, watching her health deteriorate, but did nothing at all. Na after him hear say she don die him come dey tell us this nonsense story say na because him no day home at that moment wey she take die. Your so-called spiritual door was not able to keep the Madam from falling prey to illness, which she later died of... but na devil you dey tell us say cause am? Nonsense and eegridient! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

He couldn't do anything about the illness, but somehow wants us to believe that he could have stopped death from taking her? Awon oniro oshi! 🙄🙄🙄

italkdlonly:
➜The revered holiness preacher, while speaking during the Global Workers’ Conference at the Deeper Life International Conference Centre, decried his first wife’s death, saying the devil took advantage of his absence while he was ministering at the church’s retreat that day.
“I was preaching here on Saturday, 11th April 2009, and the devil worked on my absence. My wife was at home because she had a challenge. I was driving out, the devil came, but I did not remember to close the spiritual door that nobody will sneak into that place (his house) and when I finished the Faith Clinic that morning, I received a message that my beloveth wife was gone.
“I ran to IBTC (home); I saw it had happened and I met some people there; they were praying and the Lord assured me that I should let it go, let that go, don’t bother about it,” the cleric said.

According to the story, the woman died of illness. No be say she accidentally fall off a building or get hit by a truck. The woman was sick for a period of time before she died. Kumuyi must have been home on many of those days, watching her health deteriorate, but did nothing at all. Na after him hear say she don die him come dey tell us this nonsense story say na because him no day home at that moment wey she take die. Your so-called spiritual door was not able to keep the Madam from falling prey to illness, which she later died of... but na devil you dey tell us say cause am? Nonsense and eegridient! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

He couldn't do anything about the illness, but somehow wants us to believe that he could have stopped death from taking her? Awon oni to oshi! 🙄🙄🙄

Dzzzz:
Baba done turn Avengers..

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Fiscus105:
➜If you are a man, you would have understood it better, that girls can be easily manipulated and lure into bed because of their unintelligent conversation
➜ The woman (relationship expert) nailed it, nothing to add or subtract, it left for ladies to know when and how to draw a line, wen going into relationship with guy.

Nonsense! Who fed you such nonsense? They are not easily lured into bed because of their unintelligent conversation. Many of those girls are more likely to be stupidly naive, some bordering on imbecilic. That has nothing to do with having bad communication skills. 🙄🙄🙄

2. You really believe that? WOW

Fiscus105:
➜A relationship expert highlights factors contributing to high rate of divorce, she said when a lady enters a marriage and her expectations are not meant, she got challenged.
She also said, many of the ladies cannot hold intelligent conversations and cannot relate, and that's why they get into man's bed unknowingly.

What does having weak conversation skills have to do with getting into a man's bed even when one does not want to? Na rape? The educational system in that country is truly messed up. This one is supposed to be a relationship expert, abi no be so?

Lamanii22:
I haven’t any ghost stories or experiences but I believe ghosts exist… especially that oshodi area, there are ghosts there…

It is people like you that make kidnappings and human trafficking easy work for crooks in that country.

Myrrhis:
➜Did they scam you? Rest!

What law/statute requires that one has to be a direct victim of a scam before one recognizes it for what it is?