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QuinQ:Again, I don't have mind reading abilities, hence the reason why I keep insisting that you tell me why you seem confused by the content of the above passage. ![]() Here's my understanding of the passage, which incorporates facts from the rest of the Gospels. According to the passage, when Jesus Christ of Israel first sent His disciples out, He told them to ➜ Avoid Samaritans*, whom we already confirmed are Israelites — descendants of Jacob ➜ Avoid Gentiles* ➜ Go to the Lost Sheep of Israel** By process of elimination, my understanding of the above is that Jesus Christ of Israel sent His followers, at that time, to visit only the Jewish Lost sheep of Israel. * Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 31 does not exclude any of the 12 tribes from among those who would eventually be counted among the Lost sheep of Israel. ** Elsewhere, Jesus Christ of Israel already established that He did not come for the righteous among the people, but the sinners. |
QuinQ:1. The Bible says the nation existed and Jesus Christ was born into it. History has it that Hadrian is the one who removed it from Judea to Syrian Palestine approximately 100 years after the death of Jesus Christ. So, what Google tells you is that the nation ceased to exist 600 years before Jesus Christ? ![]() 3. Well, the "Lost tribes of Israel" myth was created by those of the Religion of Christianity, a myth which contradicts Scripture itself, which indicates that living among the Jews( the tribes of Benjamin and Judah) were the Levites and Samaritans. If we did deeper, we might find that many more individuals from the other tribes also resided in Judah at the time. There could not have been 10 lost tribes if members of at least 2 of the 10 were documented to have been resident in Judah at the time of Jesus Christ. This isn't rocket science. ![]() |
broIZ:Your modification does not warrant any change in my previous retort, which still stands as is. 1. I cannot agree with you since you continue to skirt the main issue to instead insist on your own dishonest interpretation. ![]() 2. Paul was also a Roman citizen and even asserted this against his Jewish oppressors, but we all know he was a Jew. Herod was a Jew who was a Roman citizen. So, what is the difference again? ![]() 3. Well, if this believing/brainwashing is the only way you think to convince me, then that basically closes up well as nothing but a delusion, doesn't it? ![]() |
QuinQ:Again, I can't read your mind there so I don't know or understand what you are struggling with there. So, here again, I ask you. Why can't Samaritans be among the Lost sheep of Israel? ![]() |
QuinQ:I am to take this to mean that you mean you do not wish to share your thoughts at all? Again, I am not a mindreader! ![]() |
broIZ:I cannot agree with you since you continue to skirt the main issue to instead continue to insist on your own dishonest interpretation. ![]() 2. Paul was also a Roman citizen and even asserted this against his Jewish oppressors, but we all know he was a Jew. Herod was a Jew who was a Roman citizen. So, what is the difference again? ![]() 3. Well, if this believing/brainwashing is the only way you think to convince me, then that basically closes up well as nothing but a delusion, doesn't it? ![]() |
Emmanuel30a:Nonsense! His words amount to the brain farts from a mentally disconnected mind. 🙄🙄🙄 |
HEAVEN4444:O ga o! ![]() |
MONEY247:Yes! Nyquil or any of the copies does a good job in my case. ![]()
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HEAVEN4444:So, contrary to established facts, you would believe instead that these crimes were committed by demons? ![]() |
HEAVEN4444:See brain ravaged by self-created demons, abeg! 😶😶😶😶😶😶 |
HEAVEN4444:You even conjured up 72 demons to include in that brain of yours? Again, please take your brain for professional deep cleaning as soon as possible. All these meaningless ideas renting space in your brain are not doing so without a cost to you. ![]() |
HEAVEN4444:. This is the sort of information renting space in your brain? I suggest you take it for deep cleaning immediately. ![]() |
HEAVEN4444:Na craze dem dey call this one! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Chilipepper:https://youtube.com/shorts/gboD3e4SHy0?si=tVIY6AMoClioIDBZ |
QuinQ:I am not certain what aspect of what is stated in the passage of Matthew 10 vs 1 - 6 you seem to be having a problem with there. You would need to provide more details for me to understand where you were thinking of going with this, as I am not a mindreader. ![]() 2. Let me try to get this straight! You assert that the nation of Judea, in which Jesus Christ of Israel was born around 4 BC, did not exist at all? So, what nation was under captivity by the Romans if not Judea, the Jewish Nation? What nation was eventually renamed Syria Palaestina by the Romans after the Bar Kokhba revolt around 132-136 AD? ![]() 3. So, what you are trying to have us believe here is that an entire nation of over 10 tribes of Israel was condensed and reduced down to these Samaritans who barely occupied a small community in Judah during the time of Jesus Christ? Considering the history of the people in question is contained in the very pages of Scripture, this patch you have here reads a lot like gobbledegook than the history of the Samaritans. ![]() |
broIZ:1. I posted the definition I applied earlier for all to note. per·se·cu·tion2. Wrong! Again, my stance remains that the actual followers of Jesus Christ of Israel — all of them Israelites — were persecuted by their fellow Jews. In contrast, the non-Israelite groups that plagiarized the original movement — those of the religion of Christianity —were instead persecuted by their fellow Romans for mostly political purposes. I have repeated this several times, but it seems you are dead set on ignoring this so you can continue arguing about other things instead. ![]() 3. The persecution suffered by the followers of Jesus Christ came only from the Jews against the followers of Jesus Christ of Israel, even until the destruction of Jerusalem and eventually Judah. There is no Scriptural evidence to say that the Romans attacked the followers of Jesus Christ of Israel for their beliefs. ![]() 4. The king of Judea had to be of Jewish descent— the tribe of Judah, Benjamin, and/or Levi—, and Herod was born a Jew. ![]() 5. I have read through Paul's letters, but yes, I am not a believer in Paul; I have nothing to gain from believing his words. Anyway, I know for a fact that Paul never said that Gentiles meant those who are not of Israelite roots. ![]() |
Sotland:No doctor I know would say such silly nonsense! ![]() |
QuinQ:. That isn't true, as we see from the case of Timothy, Paul's friend, who was not circumcised as a child by his mother. ![]() 2. As I previously explained to you, their argument has nothing to do with anything since Jesus Christ of Israel never said anything about the need for circumcision. It's like arguing whether one will eat meat or no meat. It means nothing. ![]() 3. You are not even close to humiliating me, as all you continue to display is your sheer inability— or complete refusal — to step out of the religious mentality that you have been brainwashed with. It seems clearly the hardest thing for the religious to do, even if it would allow one to objectively assess the information that has been before them for almost 2000 years now. It is sad! ![]() 4. Again, there is no evidence that Jesus Christ of Israel or any of His Israelite disciples were directly assaulted by the Romans for their beliefs. Yes, there are numerous Religious fabrications of the accounts that seem to twist the narrative in favor of the Christian religion. But when you examine the actual accounts from the time, you immediately realize the fraud that has been perpetrated by Christianity all of this while, against our collective intelligence. ![]() 5. The image explaining the etymology of the word Gentile actually comes from the Oxford dictionary. The verses I posted from Genesis 10, along with all the others, come from Israelite Scripture. So, no, I am not the only one here who realized the actual meaning of the term Gentile separate from the deceitful meaning intended and adopted primarily by those of the religion of Christianity. 6. As for that particular man, since all Jesus Christ of Israel gave him, much like he gave the Canaanite Woman, was a miracle— the same crumbs that fall from the Master's table as the Master's Children eat their food. Jesus Christ of Israel did not preach salvation to the man, leading me to believe the man may not have been an Israelite. ![]() 7. Gentiles are Israelites; Timothy, Paul's friend, for instance, was a Gentile, not a Jew, and hence an Israelite. ![]() 8. The author of the book of John, who used the phrase The World — a metonymy — provided a clear explanation of the subset to which it referred in John 3 vs 14 - 18. ![]() 9. The Samaritans were not Israelites, yet their ancestor was Jacob? ![]() 11 The woman said, “Sir, where will you get that living water? The well is very deep, and you have nothing to get water with.The same Jacob who is ancestor of all Israelites? ![]()
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Celestialsword:Nonsense! Imagine thinking your learning should be at the expense of the emotional and social growth of others. 🙄🙄🙄 2. Well, the next time a woman abandons you and your children, and then comes back years later, you should make certain to take an olive branch from her, while others can choose never to look back, no matter what. ![]() |
GosTic:Everything about the religion that exists today can be traced back to Roman roots, with no direct connections to the original movement that was created in Jerusalem and Judeah by the man named Jesus Christ of Israel, a movement comprised only of the bloodline of Jacob. So, it should follow that when asking these sorts of questions, one should also ask which hell these Christians will find themselves given that the vast majority of them, in the name of religion, already endure hellish lives here on earth for the sake of their gods of men. ![]() |
Someone is likely to come in to post something like, "If I have paid her bride price/taken care of her expenses, then she should sleep with only me and no one else." ![]() |
QuinQ:Yes, Jews are Israelites after all. And there were also Gentiles— non-Jewish Israelites— also. ![]() 2. Their argument has nothing to do with anything since Jesus Christ of Israel never said anything about the need for circumcision. It's like arguing whether one will eat meat or no meat. It means nothing. ![]() 3. It is only established for those who prefer the plagiarized religious narratives. There is no evidence that the Romans persecuted the Jesus Christ of Israel movement. ![]() 4. The definition of the word comes from Scripture itself, and the term Gentile is used to refer to members of the same family/clan/bloodline inhabiting other nations or homes away from their fatherland. The many examples of the use of the term established beginning in Genesis 10 vs 2 - 5, provide you with all you need to know of the term and its application. ![]() By centurion, I assumed you meant the one spoken of in the book of Acts, to whom an angel appeared, and all the rest. He was an Israelite. The Canaanite woman, however, made certain to expose the fact that she was not one of the Master's children but rather a dog— a non-Israelite —cattempting to eat from the crumbs that fell from the Master's table as His children ate their food. If you have been paying attention, you would note that Jesus Christ of Israel warned His followers not to give that which is Holy — the Gospel — to the dogs, aka the non-Israelites. ![]() The very etymology of the word itself reveals that at its roots, it was used to refer to people of the same family/clan/bloodline, etc. That information has survived to this day despite the many campaigns by those of the religion of Christianity to see it vanish. ![]() 5. It is your religious delusions that fuel your biased take on the conversation between Jesus Christ of Israel and the Samaritan woman. I don't see anything remotely wrong with the way He spoke to them. The fact that He went on to spend days with the community further reveals that He held no particular grudge or disdain for them, as your religious glasses would have you believe. ![]() 6. That is the same world which in John 3 vs 14 - 18, Jesus Christ had described as the same world that Moses raised the bronze snake to in the Wilderness in Numbers 21. That world is comprised only of the bloodline of Jacob, condemned to die by YHWH. ![]()
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broIZ:This shows you have not been paying attention to the details of the conversation at all. ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/8433825/jesus/5#135507100 Note here that there are two different groups: ➜ The Israelites-only movement created by Jesus Christ of Israel back in Jerusalem of Judah ➜ and then the non-Israelites led movement, which was a plagiarized(terribly flawed) copy of the original movement. The original followers of Jesus Christ of Israel, all of them Israelites— beginning with Jesus Christ Himself— were persecuted, not by the Romans but by their fellow Jews. That is what is indicated in Scripture. There is no record that any of the members of this group survived beyond the Last Day of YHWH's Judgement against the nation of Israel(Judah) back in the 1st century AD. ![]() However, after 70 AD and the eventual destruction of Judah around 130 AD, the plagiarized movement, led by non-Israelites mostly of Roman descent, gained ground and adopted for themselves the formerly derogatory term "Christian", and grew their numbers through the spreading of diverse doctrines and traditions in Rome. They were eventually persecuted by others within their movement and eventually by the Roman State. ![]() |
Myrrhis:My obsession is instead with debating ideas to gain knowledge and understanding in the process. ; The religion of Christianity— other religions, as well — simply offers a whole lot of chances to cut down the numerous falsehoods and deceit that are out there. ![]() |
QuinQ:1. What is clear is you seem desperate to claim a win when there is no such thing to be had in this for you, given the lack of evidence. ![]() 2. Again, what I have said up to this point, something that has yet to change even now, is that the followers of Jesus Christ — derogatively referred to as Christians at the time and all of them Jews/Israelites— were persecuted, NOT by the Romans but by their fellow JEWS. You keep thinking that ignoring this aspect of my argument would somehow give you the win, but it won't. ![]() The Roman persecution of the Christians happened only after the movement was hijacked by the non-Israelites(mostly Romans) and turned into a religio-political movement, resulting in infighting between the many factions within the movement, and eventually in the state moving in to control their power until it no longer could. ![]() 3. Stop lying already! You showed no such thing, given that it is untrue and you know it yourself. 🙄 4. But Jesus Christ did not only did with a Samaritan woman but rather the community of Samaritans in the area. This is clearly documented in John 4 for all to read. 5. The centurion was a Gentile from his own accounts, however, the Canaanite woman was not a Gentile, and she knew this well. This is why she, the Canaanite woman, asked, not for the food meant for the children of the Master, but rather for the crumbs that fell from the Master's table as the Master's children ate their food — miracles are some of these. ![]() |
Nicenancy:I am areligious/irreligious. ![]() |
Preciousgirl:. Absolutely nothing since even the claim of being born-again is all a figment of his imagination after all. ![]() |
33 hours of sleep? Person go get up go pee at least? Ordinary staying up for 13 hours, everywhere don begin dey do me like person wey dey intoxicated. The thought of staying awake for 72 hours straight is a nightmarish thought for me. ![]() |
QuinQ:I am not everyone, and I am not easily fooled by the many religious spins— clearly political propaganda, and attempts made to rewrite history itself— that have been pushed out there for so long on events. ![]() |
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