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SmartyPants:
➜Don't know how true these stories are but if stated to Immigration that he would be staying with the wife but when a call was put across to her she said something contrary, or simply refused to respond, this could happen.

The man would buy a ticket to stay with a woman he knows is pregnant for another man and probably lives with him? See, why did I insist that people should not be carried away by these snippets online and instead strive to learn the whole story to, in fact, learn what transpired?

ijebosb:
Truthfully, I don't care what you expected. I posted to correct the misinformation that you posted here. I'm on firm scientific ground, you are not.
Don't be that person.
The information is free. Google it.
There are tons of peer reviewed studies on water diets/fasting and how much weight people lose.
Here is one: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8951503/
If reading/understanding them is what is giving you a hard time that you need Reddit to filter them for you, there are also tons of articles discussing these studies and even more articles discussing why people initially can/do lose so much weight.
Here is snippet of an article discussion one study: (And in this study there was an average weight loss amongst the participants of 5.7kg for a week or ~12.56 pounds in 7 days). I'm not derailing the thread further on this. Spend some more time reading and less calling people liars because you are uninformed.

I stand corrected.

Our results advance our understanding of prolonged fasting in humans beyond a merely energy-centric adaptions towards a systemic response that can inform targeted therapeutic modulation.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-024-01008-9

Researchers followed 12 healthy volunteers taking part in a seven-day water-only fast. The volunteers were monitored closely on a daily basis to record changes in the levels of around 3,000 proteins in their blood before, during, and after the fast. By identifying which proteins are involved in the body’s response, the researchers could then predict potential health outcomes of prolonged fasting by integrating genetic information from large-scale studies.

As expected, the researchers observed the body switching energy sources – from glucose to fat stored in the body – within the first two or three days of fasting. The volunteers lost an average of 5.7 kg of both fat mass and lean mass. After three days of eating after fasting, the weight stayed off – the loss of lean was almost completely reversed, but the fat mass stayed off.

https://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2024/fmd/study-identifies-multi-organ-response-to-seven-days-without-food.html

ijebosb:
@✓ Don't need to. I don't speak unless I do my own research or have real world experience.
This case I have both.
But nothing stops you. Why don't you post whatever you think on reddit and post the link so we can watch everyone tell you you are wrong.
You are stuck in what you think you know and in the presence of contrary info, that you can easily google, you still can't adjust. Not a healthy way to learn, grow or be.
Again, it is possible for him to have "lost" the weight he claims (I'm not claiming that I know he did). A part of what he "lost" is water weight, some part of which will come back.
Since you like Reddit so much here is one such post. There are tons.
1 week of Water Fasting (178lbs -> 165.6lbs)
https://www.reddit.com/r/intermittentfasting/comments/1g0lxdz/my_weight_before_during_and_after_a_7_day_fast/

Storyland! 🙄🙄🙄

When I said post it on Reddit and mentioned we should seek more informed contributions, I meant people whose claims were backed by research-backed evidence, not more unverified opinions of claims such as the one we have here. 😩😩😩

ijebosb:
✓ And this is my bluetooth scale from 2020. I bulked up during summer and wanted to cut weight (usually do a fast at the end of the year).

Here's a challenge for you. Go post this supposed evidence of yours on Reddit and come back to tell us, or better yet share a link so we can follow the conversation. Here on Nairaland, you can easily fool people who are not aware but people on Reddit are certainly more informed and can better scrutinize your claim.

ijebosb:
✓ It's possible. Once your body starts burning through glycogen it also releases the water stored in then.
It's very easy to lose a lot of water weight initially. Some of it returns once you start eating Carbs again.
From experience, I did a 14 day water fast last year. The scale said I lost 23 pounds at the end of it. But after refeeding it was about 14 pounds (fat and some muscle).
✓ I usually expect to lose and keep off 1 pound a day when doing a full water fast.
I also work out in the midst of it as well. When I can.

Please stop telling us these lies. Watch the video to understand how what you claim is scientifically impossible! Do the math for heaven's sake!

2. Again, unless you are literally cutting out the pounds of fat with a knife from your body, there is no way for you to rid yourself of 1lb of body weight per day. Watch the videos to learn this yourself.

Righthussle:
➜My own is simple, they say it's the curse the bible god placed on Eve that makes women feel pain and even die during childbirth and fortunately Jesus later came to die for that sin that brought the curse, why is the curse still there ? The day the bible god truly forgives and removes the curse that's the day I'll become a Christian.

They say.... Where is this thing they say to you written in the book, though? They say a lot of things that are not actually recorded in the book, so what does the book have to do with any of what they claim?

PulaPower:
Jesus
Sin
Bible. They’re all fairytales & fallacies..

The books of the Bible aren't the source of the fallacies here. Rather, religion — Judaism, Christianity, and Islam — in its many attempts to explain away what is recorded in the books, is the root of widespread fallacies.

Chilipepper:
➜Man Sends Wife to Canada for Studies, She Ghosts Him & Kids After Getting Pregnant for Another Man

They were returned, not that they were denied a visa in the first place? Abeg, tell us the truth of what really happened o'jare!🙄🙄🙄

Squere:
➜I keep asking this question. People leave their homes to go visit orphans in the orphanage homes, take gifts and other stuffs to them, snap pictures and post online.
The Truth is very simple. If your Brothers children are hungry and need help, yet you ignore them and go to motherless babies home to do charity, you're just wasting your time. You have a neighbor who is genuinely in need, but you ignore him and go to the orphanage homes, you're deceiving yourselves. Some persons only help when they can take pictures. Some help only when their names can be published for everyone to see. To them it's a show off. Christians are fond of doing this. Even the bible says we shouldn't let our left hand to know what our right hand is giving out. You see this people giving out publicly, if you meet them privately and request for help, they won't answer you. And if they answer you, it's simply a matter of , I'm sorry I don't have. Only a few people help genuinely.

Direct this at your pastors and church people who ignore the suffering of their members, the same members from whom they collect all the money they donate to Orphanages. These same pastors who sell you all on Christianity are the same elements who advise their members to ignore the needs and plight of their family members to ensure tithes and offering money always dey for them to pay in church every church service.

Newgoodkk:
➜Ok Thanks on That . So according to the Bible , Jesus Christ says he is the Way ,The truth ,No one ( Irrespective of Color ,Age ,Race and Ethnicity) Cometh into His Father except Through Him . John 14 v 6 . Now To Make Heaven , Is it only the Bloodline of Jacob that are destined To make Heaven since No one Else can Worship The Creators of Heaven and Earth except those that are Of the Blood line of Jacob . Gospel Must be Preached to the world world .
➜What is the Essence of Preaching the words of the God of Jacob Blood Line to the whole world since Almighty God has no business with any other people apart from Jacob Bloodline.
➜Pls. Can You Back up your Words with Bible References .. The Other Gods/gods with such numbers what spiritual Stand or Position do they have to Guarantee other non Jacob bloodline Paradise / Heaven

1. According to the books of the Gospel, the same Jesus Christ equally made clear through direct word — figures of speech included — that He was sent by His Father only to the bloodline of Jacob.

⚉ In John 6 vs 37-38, Jesus Christ proclaimed, "The Father gives me my people. Every one of them will come to me. I will always accept them. I came down from heaven to do what God wants, not what I want." This statement invariably means Jesus Christ of Israel had no choice in picking the people that would be His; His Father is the one who made the decision as far as the people Jesus Christ was sent.
⚉ In Matthew 15 vs 20, Jesus Christ announced that He was sent by His Father only to the Lost Sheep of Israel— the bloodline of Jacob. By this, He officially declared Himself savior to the race of Israelites and not of any other race — Jesus Christ of Israel.
⚉ In John 3 vs 14 - 18, we learn from Jesus Christ of Israel that the people whom His Father loves — YHWH(God of Israel) were the very same people whom Moses, who was sent before Him, raised the Serpent in the desert to save. He went on to describe them as " the World"(a metonymy, a figure of speech, used as reference to the condemned of Israel), which God loved.
⚉ In Matthew 7 vs. 6, Jesus Christ of Israel openly warned His followers against giving what is Holy to the dogs — non-Israelites— declaring the dogs incapable of handling that which is Holy — they are unqualified to do so.
⚉ In Matthew 10 vs. 1 - 6, when Jesus Christ of Israel had the opportunity to send His disciples out to announce the Kingdom of God, He sent them only to the Israelites.
⚉ Then, in Matthew 28 vs. 16-20 and Mark 16 s 15 - 18, applying the same metonymy he had earlier used, Jesus Christ of Israel dispersed His followers into the World which He had previously described to His followers.
⚉ To seal it all, in Luke 24, Jesus Christ proclaimed that His Word is Everlasting meaning it can never be changed ---- not by Him, or any human being even after He is dead and gone.

Jesus Christ of Israel NEVER indicated that He was sent to or came to save non-Israelites. The lie that He did was fabricated entirely by those of the religions of Christianity and of Islam.

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2. You should ask your religious overlords whom you allowed to sell you the lie that the man known as Jesus Christ of Israel came to rescue you all from your lives that question. Jesus Christ of Israel made it emphatically clear by His Words that His Gospel can't be handled by those who are not of the blood of Jacob, so whatever you all have been spreading has been anything but the Gospel of Him.

3. Well, each has its specifics as far as benefits and the lot. For instance,
⚉ the Christian god that sells Christians over 46000 different denominations(contradictions, really), which Christians claim are somehow linked to a book that only applies to Israelites, sells benefits that seem only to benefit their religious leaders and gods. As far as the Christian heaven, there seems to be over 46000 of them as well, with each denomination describing how to enter each. If you ask me, I think it is all a reference to the kingdom created by the GO of each faction.
⚉ the Muslim god, Allah, equally sells them many different denominations(contradictions, really), with each faction believing different ideas as far as how to be a good Muslim and whatnot. Much like then Christians, the only ones who seem to benefit the most from the arrangement are their imams and overlords at the top of the organizational hierarchy, and their ideas of the Muslim heaven are typically as based on the private delusions of their Imams, sheikhs, and so on, if you ask me.
⚉ Greek gods sell their own ideas as far as Greek enlightenment and paradise. There are many new ideas thrown out there about the benefits and whatnot. So, you would need to consult the particular faction of your choice for details.
⚉ Ogun and those who worship him are pretty much the same. A similar pattern as expressed above is observed there, too. You have different denominations/factions with different ideas as far as how to access Ogun and his end benefit. ....

Savingrace678:
Noted. Thanks 🙏

That isn't a good idea given that staying married the the man leaves the door open for him and his family to come in to claim ownership or anything that supposedly belongs to you should anything happen to you. In Nigeria, once married, the woman's property is considered to belong to the man she is married to unless she has it in the name of others. Even then that leaves her vulnerable and is not as advisable.

Nnamdipapa:
➜After fasting for two days, I started the diet, eat only once in a day, Skipped breakfast and eat the only meal around 2pm. Zero sugar intake and I now have more energy and have walked one hour thirty minutes every day. You have the habits of arguing mindlessly instead of waiting to learn from others. I am just starting my story and will post more evidence but as you love to argue baselessly, you could not resist the temptation to antagonize. This is not a thread about religion but my LIVED experience. I stand on the scale everyday and take my blood sugar measurement on a daily basis as well to gauge progress. I have a goal to lose 20lb more in the next three months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7yM0TKvUm4?si=ZUGO70sxgAP5heNi

This is just one of the TED Ed videos on YouTube that you can watch to help you get on the right track as far as losing weight is concerned.

I am not trying to enter into a useless debate with you here. I am simply pointing out that the science of what you claim does not add up as all. What you describe amounts to juju. Even people who lose weight every so often for professional reasons -- actors, models, celebrities --- do not report such successes in so short time as you claim and this is with all the professionals they have working with them and all.

Nnamdipapa:
Lies about a lived experience? Are you educated at all? I fasted the first two days, only water, do you think that is unimaginable?

To lose even 1lb of weight per day, one has to burn approximately 4500 calories every single day; this is not counting the food your body needs daily to operate, which is approximately 1000-1200 calories.

✓ Walking 2 hours, you will burn approximately 350 calories(walking up steep inclines for extended period assumed).
✓ That platter you have there with 5 eggs, 1 avocado, and beef looks like it could be a total of 1000 calories.

How you want make we come believe say you loose even 0.2 lbs a day let alone 1.3 lbs per day for the past 7 days? No be juju be that?

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Fasting for two days will not magically cause you to lose even 0.3 lbs. ogbeni, body no be magic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEQaH4LruUo?si=04X1D6_74krpNUMY

Nnamdipapa:
✓Sure, I created a thread in the health section to discuss more on this topic.
I have lots of remarkable results to share, My goals were; weight loss, improved energy and productivity, I wanted to build muscles hence needed lots of natural protein intakes, I wanted to boost my testosterone and overral, I wanted to be very healthy.
It is my day 7 on the diet and I have so much energy walk 2hours every morning, I lost 10lbs, and aiming to get to the lower threshold of my BMI.
I have crisp mental clarity I never had the past 15 years. I stopped my type 2 diabetes medications, my blood pressure normalized, my energy is through the roof, I lost my sleep apnea and never have to sleep with melatonin.
This is just withing 7 days.

Storyland! We need to stop telling lies abeg! 🙄🙄🙄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X834O9MaCM?si=2jfJiX-rygCx0vKp
To lose even 1lb of weight per day, one has to burn approximately 4500 calories every single day, this is not counting the food your body needs daily to operate, which is approximately 1000-1200 calories.

✓ Walking 2 hours, you will burn approximately 350 calories(walking up steep inclines for extended period assumed).
✓ That platter you have there with 5 eggs, 1 avocado, and beef looks like it could be a total of 1000 calories.

How you want make we come believe say you loose even 0.3 lbs a day let alone 1.3 lbs per day for the past 7 days? No be juju be that?

Newgoodkk:
➜You always refer Almighty God to " your god " Can you Clear this , I have no Strength for Arguments Abeg .. I just ask a Simple Question .
➜The Almighty God that I read about in the Bible The one that Was referred to as the Creator of heavens and the Earth ... Thanks

. There are over 4000 deities out there. The chances that you and I worship the same deity is at least 1/4000. And the deity you can qualify to worship is not based solely on claims you make but on the particulars of the deity in question. So when I refer to that which you worship as your god or deity, I do not do so in ignorance.

2. The bible, which you also claim to worship, specifically states that YHWH — God of Israel —is father only to those who are of the bloodline of Jacob. What this means is that as a Nigerian, if you are not directly linked to the Jacob as your ancestors, you are not qualified to claim Him as your God.

YoungBTCxchange:
this pastor is rich even before becoming pastor, I used to attend his church here in warri sometime, I live close to him, the pastor help people a lot man, ask anybody about pastor KK in warri

He was rich doing what? What company did he work at and from when to when? Where?

DaddyCoool:
➜You people are so idiotic it is almost unbelievable! GOD HIMSELF established our reality that way!!! It is like, say, someone wrote a computer program a certain way and you're asking why doesn't change it or why didn't he write it another way!...

Nonsense!

There are over 4000 different deities defined out there. Clearly, yours isn't one of the many supposed omnipotent ones out there. 😂😂😂😂😂

Feministolash:
The woman is right I was once an example of bad experience got stranded and depressed in Almalty Kazakhstan. It's God that saved my life

From Nigeria to Kazakhstan for what? Are you back in Nigeria now?

tballeyy:
I pray to everyone in abroad that God should hv mercy on them

E don finish having mercy on Nigerians living in Nigeria?

Gabrielshow24:
➜Her supposed validity which ended up being wrong!
➜The issue lies in you using this flaw, to conclude God's impotence! How do they correlate? It's just like someone concluding la Liga is thrash because man UTD (😁) beat real Valladolid. That's why you are the one that doesn't know what he is saying!!! And in fact, you don't even know the fallacies you have committed. If you can't see it, then no one can help you!!!

It ended up being wrong because you conveniently asserted it as such?

2. She makes clear that her god is an impotent one. I, in my response, reassert her very own declaration. However, you feel I am at fault for doing this?

Religion is nothing but a waste of the human mind and time! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Gabrielshow24:
➜"not her belief, Dummy" Her analogy created the "contradiction"!!!
➜Am calling you out for making a generalization from her perceived "contradiction" to discredit the omnipotence of God🤨!!! An hasty generalization at best!!!

She gave us an analogy to explain her beliefs. When question on the content of the analogy, she reasserted its validity. Yet you think the contradiction revealed in all of her explanations are not part and parcel of her very belief? Are you high?

2. Again, stop using terms you lack a correct understanding of. 🙄🙄

Gabrielshow24:
➜Better educate yourself on what a fallacy is. Especially what a "weak analogy" fallacy entails before you come here spewing thrash!!! Her analogy provided a contradiction 😂 One which you are bent on using and from this you are drawing a conclusion or generalization, an hasty one at best, to dispute her initial premise!!!

So, the fact that her beliefs are contradictory— ridilled with falsehoods— is somehow to be blamed on me? 😂😂😂😂

I don tell you... stop using terms you have little to no understanding of.

Gabrielshow24:
➜Were you blind? Didn't you see when I quoted her? Where I used reflective questions to show her the flaw? 🤦🏾‍♂️ You don't have anything useful to contribute, you are just here to troll!!! Also it seems you are one that's not knowledgeable of the fallacy you committed. Maybe you should read up!

Nonsense!

Gabrielshow24:
➜You don't know what you are saying.
➜Now you are committing "fallacy of hasty generalization". Drawing conclusions based on her " faulty analogy"🤨

The analogy in question was deemed faulty, not by her but by you without correcting, leading me to suspect that the analogy is not the problem here but your desire to deny any conclusions drawn from i that may not fit your particular delusion.

And please, resist the urge to use terms you lack adequate understanding of.

Gabrielshow24:
➜Fine, she committed a fallacy of weak analogy. Will you use that as proof for God being impotent? 🤨 Are you ok?

She did not commit a fallacy in revealing that her god is not, in fact, omnipotent as she initially wanted for us to believe. She revealed a truth about the particular deity she holds to.

Gabrielshow24:
➜Like I said, her example was flawed! Leave it at that. By now, she should have been able to reflect upon the implications of her analogy!!!

She exposes your god as not being omnipotent. And you want me to leave it at that?

Gabrielshow24:
➜Leave it at that, you know what she intended to allude to but her phrasing was wrong🤔. The particle example was flawed and life is not always filled with dichotomy!!!

Is her phrasing wrong, or is her entire premise wrong? In one statement she claims her god is all-powerful only to reveal in the next that he really isn't.

DaddyCoool:
➜Noooo, it's just an example. Just there can't be matter without antimatter, down without up, etc, there can't be good God on one side and nothing on the other side!

Your particular confusion is palpable! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Again, your deity is directly opposed by another deity out there — the antimatter to his matter — is what you have been insisting upon all this time. But somehow, you refuse to accept what you said as that?

Expanse2020:
➜So you can quickly tell us what Muhammad S.A.W. infer from the bible as he copied the bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 as you parabulating on line
➜Perhaps you showed us the evidence from the Quran where all the nose you are making now ... Where the first and second Jubril came out from🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Your indian na original

Try to pay close attention so you don't go running away there with your delusions confused as mine. I didn't say he copied the Bible. Rather, I said, he lifted characters from the Book of Genesis, Exodus -....Deuteronomy, Daniel, and even the Gospels, all of which are contained in the Bible. In addition, Mohammed also wrote of Isa — whom He connects with the same Jesus Christ written of in the Bible. From this, we can clearly infer that Mohammed did not consider corrupt the accounts of Israelite Scripture in Daniel and the Gospels. He accepted that these characters existed, providing credence to the content of the books you now want us to believe were corrupt.

2. There is no evidence to be gotten from the Quran of anything since, according to you, it lifts ideas— Abraham, Moses, Gabriel, ..., Jesus Christ are written of only in the Bible— from a book that you believe to be corrupt.

DaddyCoool:
✓ Are you OK? God set this up as a binary world. Even matter - for every matter there's antimatter!

So in this binary world set up by your deity, he is directly opposed by these any elements-- antimatter, right?