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AbuTwins:
➜YHWH? Why is God refusing to pronounce His name to you?
➜And up till now Holy Spirit hasn't been able to solve the YHWH/YHVH debacle!
➜How is it God of Israel alone when it is stated that "Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh; is there anything too difficult for Me?” Jeremiah 32:27
➜Also Exodus 3:14 - God also told Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered in every generation
➜Abeg who is right you or your Bible? It seems those people worshiped a nameless God YHWH!

1. Does he refuse to pronounce his own name? Who fed you this ridiculous tale?

2. Where did you get that from? Who fed you that other ridiculous nonsense?

3. He is the God of all flesh after all He created all flesh including those who refused to worship Him. However, He also declared that He is God of Israel and that the people He named Israel would be His only inheritance in the land of man; He did this by giving His contract/agreement/Law only to those of the blood of man called Jacob. Is He, as God, not allowed to do this?

4. Indeed. He is YHWH, God of Israel , and the men Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, Shem, Balaam, etc., all served Him according to His plan called Israel. Are you having a problem with the use of the name Israel or something? Recall, I had originally mentioned that that name came, not from men, but from YHWH Himself. If that name came from YHWH Himself, do you realize that it means the plan called Israel probably existed with YHWH even before man was made? Are you able to fathom at least that much?

5. Something tells me there is some serious language comprehension issue going on here. Again, If Noah served a God who chose him(Noah) specifically for His plan which is Israel, and Abraham and Moses served a God who also chose them(Abraham and Moses) specifically for His plan which is Israel then clearly the God they all served was YHWH, the God of Israel.

DaddyCoool:
➜ Your problem once again is that you are totally reliant on what is WRITTEN in a book as opposed to what you can see with your own eyes. It is like me writing a long thesis as to why a certain color is black when you can see with your own eyes that it is white!
➜There are powerful movements of the LIVING Christ and Spirit of God in various Christian churches around the world and you're here arguing "lost sheep of Israel".
➜Aren't ALL of biblical Israel now lost? Then what? Therefore Christ/God no longer exists?
➜Know one thing: the DEATH and resurrection of Christ CHANGED almost everything. So when you talk, talk in terms of before and after that death!

1. So, basically, even though the man called Jesus Christ of Israel lived and gave His Law and Final Word almost 2000 years ago, declaring those Words EVERLASTING — Unchanging — you believe instead that those words are not reliable and need to be supplemented by that which you instead see with your own eyes?

2. How can these movements that you submit to be ever-changing be considered connected to the same Jesus Christ of Israel who instead declared that His Word and that of His Fathers are unchanging?

3. Who fed you this nonsense tale that all biblical Israelites are now lost? How did you reach this conclusion of yours? Are you insinuating that the YHWH of Israel, the Father of Jesus Christ of Israel, made a mistake when He chose the Israelites as His own, even going as far as to declare that He would scatter them to all four corners of the world and eventually gather them back to Himself when the time is right? Are you insinuating that the God of Israel —YHWH— after deliberately scattering His Israel, lost them and no longer knows them or where each of them is even as we speak?

4. If the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ of Israel, according to you, rendered null and void —changed — everything Jesus Christ of Israel declared beforehand, then wouldn't it be safe to conclude then that whatever it was that took place after His death cannot then be linked back to the same Jesus Christ of Israel before these events? Wouldn't it equally mean that all of his promises, teachings, commandments, experiences, etc., before His death are rendered of no meaning...

I can go on but truly you understand how inane these ideas you hold can truly be. Something tells me that you are each aware but refuse to accept or broach it for fear that you might learn the truth or at least the foolishness of these ideas you hold to.

dkidd:
➜Yes he was not a Jew but as a founder of the Jewish nation he can be considered one and being that God called him out after he had married Sarai ( Sarah) he probably married her the mesopotamian way. So yeah U are right this time

Abraham DID NOT found the Jewish tradition. YHWH's calling of Abraham was entirely different from YHWH's call of the Israelites and eventually the Jewish tribes among them.

At the time that the nation of Israel was created by the YHWH—God of Israel—, the Israelites had been in captivity for over 420 years in Egypt, enough time for the tribes that later went on to be known as the Jewish tribes to adopt ideas that had nothing to do with the traditions of the land that Abraham came from. There was barely anything Abraham left of the people at the time except for the blood in their veins. That is one of the major reasons why YHWH had to demand a mass circumcision campaign while they were in the desert.

AbuTwins:
✓ So which God did Abraham,Moses and Noah served and worshipped?

According to Him, He is YHWH, God of Israel alone. He gave the name Israel to the Israelites via their father, Jacob, saying they are the people who are called by His name.

If Noah served a God who chose Him specifically for His plan which is Israel and Abraham and Moses served a God who also chose them specifically for His plan which is Israel then clearly the God they all are ed was YHWH, the God of Israel. 🤔

Olufemiolaolu:
He is obviously supposed to be permanently stationed in Yabalwft😲🤔🤔

Along with the woman who has now asked people to leave her man alone.

DaddyCoool:
➜Do u live in the real world sir or la la land? Lord Jesus has been alive these 2000+ years, performing wonders and the Spirit of God moving among Christians all over the world, and you are stuck on "lost sheep of Israel".
➜Do u know how many contradictions are the Bible?
➜ The apostles were there when these things were said by Christ, you were NOT. They all agreed and preached that Christ came for Jews AND Gentiles

Performing what wonders? The wonders that have to do with a religion that proclaims that Jesus Christ of Israel and YHWH of Israel both lied when they both declared 2000 years ago that Salvation, as offered by them, belonged only to the Lost Sheep of Israel?

2. Ah! So, because the books of the Bible contain many contradictions, you take it to then mean that where it is written that Jesus Christ of Israel said that He was sent only to the Lost sheep of Israel by His Father, YHWH, God of Israel, it must have been a lie? 🤔

3. None of the Apostles that were there in fact said that Jesus Christ of Israel came to save those who were not of the bloodline of Israel. That much can be confirmed from their letters which were directed at those who were of the qualified bloodline. So, if those who were there before Jesus Christ's death confirmed the message, why do you reject it still? Why do you conclude it must have been a lie?

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✹By the way, the term gentile, right from its very first use in the book of Genesis 10, is used to refer to people who are all members of the same bloodline aka family.

2 Japheth’s sons were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
3 Gomer’s sons were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
4 Javan’s sons were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.[a]
5 All the people who lived in the area around the Mediterranean Sea came from these sons of Japheth. The people separated and went to different countries according to languages, families, and nations. -Genesis 10 vs 2 - 5

IT was first used about the family of Japheth, I believe he was the father of the Arabs. And was later on used about the family of Jacob — meaning those who are of the bloodline of Jacob just as YHWH made clear through His Prophets.

dkidd:
✹In ancient Jewish practice, this was a gift from the bride's family to the groom's family when they married. So being step siblings. Same father but different mothers I believe Sarah's mother would have made arrangements for that. We all know these were the beginnings of mankind so they were still trying to get things right and hence sibling marriage and sexual relationships were prohibited in due time

Abraham was not a Jew; the traditions at the time of Abraham had nothing to do with Jewish tradition.

DaddyCoool:
➜U sure u ok sir. I've been trying to resist the urge to tell u u r nuts. How can u possibly read the Bible from end to end and conclude that Jesus only came to save "the lost sheep of Israel"?? Are you nuts sir? Which lost ship of Israel did he save? When he sent out his disciples or when he commissioned St. Paul did he tell them to only go "lost sheep of Israel" (what ever that means).
And how on earth can u read the verse below and conclude that "world" means "lost sheep of Israel"?!!

Again, pay close attention to what I continue to repeat... something you religious bots continue to ignore. This isn't rocket science for Pete's sake!

✹The one who is the Savior here is Jesus Christ of Israel, and Jesus Christ of Israel proclaimed that He only came to save the Lost Sheep of Israel. This is the message repeated all across the 4 Gospels. Jesus Christ of Israel at the same declared that insisted that He only does the will of His Father, and also that His Words are Everlasting—unchanging.
✹ So, if His disciples supposedly changed the script, doesn't that then mean that His disciples not only contravened Him but created a completely different idea from that taught them by Jesus Christ of Israel?

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Moses did not lift the bronze snake to any other people— not the Moabites, the Amorites, the Hittites, and not even the foreigners who left Egypt with the Israelites. No, Moses lifted the bronze snake in the desert up for the sake of the Israelites — the bloodline of Jacob. So, Jesus Christ submitting that He too would be raised as a bronze snake much the same as Moses raised one in the desert to the condemned, implied He would be raised to the same people.

DaddyCoool:
➜See below. Notice first quote says "sin" NOT sins

I believe I already mentioned earlier that Jesus Christ of Israel, the one who came to save the World had in John 3 explained exactly which world He came to save.

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John 3 vs 14 - 15 which you Christians cleverly refuse to quote established that the world which Jesus Christ said He was sent to by His Father —YHWH — as the very same world to which the same God of Israel —YHWH— caused Moses to raise the bronze snake to in the desert, the Lost sheep of Israel. The term the world in that passage of John 3 is used as a metonymy— metaphorical in origin— for those regarded as the lost sheep of Israel. 🤔

But, of course, you will rather deny that and claim that Jesus Christ of Israel not only changed His mind but also lied straight-faced to the Canaanite woman and His disciples. That seems to be the resolve of religion. 🤔

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So, if Jesus Christ of Israel, the one who brought salvation to the members of the World He described as being limited to that which consists of the Lost Sheep of Israel(the same to whom the bronze snake was raised in the desert by Moses) — the bloodline of Jacob— is there any human being who has the power to declare otherwise without directly contradicting and even contravening Him and His Father for that matter? 🤔

Streetinvestor2:
➜All he needs to do for nigeria is release all information on SW president called TPain

And what do you expect will happen after or as a result of that? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Pluto33:
➜What of the quacks?

The ones that are busy working with kidnappers to remove organs all over the place, abi?

Truthcat:
➜Let people get real weapons to protect themselves, the bad guys have them, and it takes a good guy with the same weapon to stop evil.

Nigerians dey like pretend to say all will be well for them even as it all falls apart all around them.

nlfpmod, seun please move to frontpage.

Magic1:
➜Colombia president caves, sends presidential jet to bring deportees from U.S. after Trump visa ban, economic sanctions

This dude has been in office less than one week and the world is being shaken.... argh!!

It is back to hiatus from all U.S.-related news for me abeg!

Thundafireseun:
➜When you call on YHWH through his son JESUS…. HE will show up for you

That is a bloody lie since Jesus Christ Himself said He was sent ONLY to the Lost Sheep of Israel.

If anyone who is not of the qualified bloodline — the bloodline of Jacob — can call on Him and receive answers then what that would mean is that Jesus Christ lied and His Father, YHWH of Israel, also changed His mind. He cannot be telling the truth and not telling the truth at the same time. Only religion has him doing that and we see it boldly in today's world that religion does not offer a greater advantage than is found without it those who hold to it.

Thankgod89:
➜Thank you for pointing this out—I appreciate the opportunity to clarify. Let me address your points directly.
1. John the Baptist and the Least in the Kingdom:
You’re correct that Jesus described John the Baptist as "lesser than the least" in the Kingdom of God. This comparison highlights the shift between the Old Covenant (which John represents) and the New Covenant that Jesus inaugurates. The "greater privilege" I referred to earlier is not about everyone automatically being righteous in the Kingdom but about access to salvation, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and eternal life through Christ.
The Matthew 25:31–46 passage doesn’t contradict this. The least in the Kingdom still have the choice to follow Christ’s teachings (caring for the hungry, thirsty, stranger, etc.), and failure to live according to Kingdom principles leads to judgment. This underscores the responsibility tied to the "greater privilege" of being in the Kingdom—greater access to God means greater accountability. In contrast, under the Old Covenant, righteousness was tied to the Law, which could not fully reconcile people to God (Hebrews 10:1-4).....

1. I never said or hinted at this idea of everyone getting anything so I don't understand why you keep inserting the meaningless into this rather than FOCUSING your attention on in fact responding to what is asked.

Again, This discussion is centered around pointing out that John the Baptist, the Greatest of the Old Prophets — the last of them— was regarded by Jesus Christ as being lesser than the least(not the greatest) in the Kingdom of God of Israel. 🤔

Again, you claimed earlier that the reason why Jesus Christ had said what He said —made His earlier comparison between John the Baptist and the least in the Kingdom of God of Israel had to do with experiencing what you regarded as a greater privilege. However, in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, Jesus Christ Himself, pointed out that those who are the least in the Kingdom of God of Israel —the very same ones He compared to John the Baptist — were destined to eternal damnation. This is what prompted me to ask you how eternal damnation compared to the blessings of the righteousness of the Old Covenant which was John the Baptist's reward as a righteous prophet of the Old.

2. I am not a fan of religious gobbledegook! 🙄🙄🙄

SonofElElyonRet:
➜Pooh pooh argument is what this fallacious reasoning is called.. no response at all to the specific verses quoted. Also creating a strawman's argument easy to avoid... you parried the facts and evidence raised.. coward!

Look, your religious gobbledegook will never be able to change or occlude what is contained in that book which is that YHWH— the God of Israel who gave the name Israel to His people(they are the people who are called by His name) — declared He would not change His mind regarding His people Nor would He lie as far as His Law is concerned.

Thankgod89:
➜The interaction with the Canaanite woman in Matthew 15:21–28 deserves careful examination. Jesus’ initial response highlights His mission’s focus on Israel, but her persistent faith becomes a turning point. When Jesus heals her daughter, it demonstrates His compassion and willingness to respond to faith—even from someone outside Israel. This act doesn't contradict God's unchanging nature but instead reveals the unfolding of His plan: that salvation would begin with Israel and then extend to all nations (Romans 1:16, Isaiah 49:6)....

You literally said that Jesus Christ, against that declared in Scripture, changed His mind meaning He had originally lied to the Canaanite woman in that very same passage. And here you are attempting to convince me that it is not a contradiction of God's unchanging nature? Are you OK at all?

con·tra·dict
/ˌkäntrəˈdik(t)/
verb
➜ deny the truth of (a statement) by asserting the opposite.
➜ assert the opposite of a statement made by (someone).

Do you even begin to understand the meaning of the words you use at all? How can anyone make the claim you just did there— a bald-faced lie— and then claim it is not a lie at the same time?

If God can change His mind... you said Jesus Christ changed His mind... and God can lie... you said Jesus Christ had originally lied to the Canaanite woman..., does that then not mean the God you claim to know IS NOT unchanging — he changes his mind and even lies when he wants to?

SonofElElyonRet:
➜I referenced specific O.T. verses dude

Nonsense! You instead attempted to assert your opinion/interpretation in place of the actual content of those passages. A typical derailment tactic used by religious ninnies, I immediately pushed focus back to the topic. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Thankgod89:
1....The "greater privilege" of the New Covenant lies not in the risk of eternal damnation but in the availability of eternal life and reconciliation with God through Jesus Christ. It’s about the transformative grace now offered, which wasn’t fully accessible under the Old Covenant.
2. I understand your skepticism about linking humility to "the least." While Jesus didn’t explicitly define "the least" as the humble in every instance, His teachings often elevate humility as a key trait in the Kingdom of God. For example:
In Matthew 18:4, Jesus says, "Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
In Matthew 23:11–12, He teaches that "The greatest among you will be your servant. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted."
While these passages don’t directly equate humility with "the least," they show that humility is a recurring theme in Jesus’ description of greatness in His Kingdom. This is why I associate the "least" with those who exhibit humility.

Again, you avoid the question...work to Stay focused, please!

This discussion is centered around pointing out that John the Baptist, the Greatest of the Old Prophets — the last of them— was regarded by Jesus Christ as being lesser than the least(not the greatest) in the Kingdom of God of Israel. 🤔

Now, in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, Jesus Christ Himself, points out that those who are least in the Kingdom of God of Israel —the very same ones He compared to John the Baptist — were destined to eternal damnation. But you claimed earlier that the reason why Jesus Christ had said what He said —made the comparison earlier had to do with those of the Kingdom of God of Israel experiencing what you considered greater privilege. So, please better explain yourself as far as my original question.🤔

2. My refusal to do so is not born of skepticism but rather of the fact that I refuse to shove my own gibberish claims in the mouth of the person of Jesus Christ of Israel. He never linked humility to the least of those in the Kingdom of God, and He certainly never alluded to any such being the case. So, what reason would anyone have to do any such if not maybe to score a valueless point by way of yet another lie? 🤔

SonofElElyonRet:
➜ Junkie Junkie..

How can I be said to avoid the Old Testament when the Prophets are clearly written to have insisted on the Family of Jacob being the ones under agreement with YHWH, God of Israel? There were no others named by the Prophets as part of the promises except those who are of that bloodline.

Maysdevices:
➜Someone that says He has written the beginning from the end can do whatever He wants and that has answered all these questions. We are merely playing a script He wrote and this just common sense
➜Besides the book is fabricated like you said, yours questions aren’t proving any point
➜You shouldn’t care so much because you can’t change the belief of a person plagued by demons and regularly rescued by her creator

1. So because He said that, everything else He equally said, no longer matters?

2. I NEVER said that any of the books of the Bible are fabricated. Rather, I clearly insisted that your particular beliefs ARE NOT found in the books of the Bible meaning they have to be located in the books of your religious jobbers who compile and feed you all with ridiculous stories which they then lie are linked to the books of the bible.

3. Stop with the religious rambling abeg! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Thankgod89:
➜It seems there’s some misunderstanding about the nature of Jesus’ mission and His interaction with the Canaanite woman. In Matthew 15:21–28, while Jesus initially states, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel,” He ultimately grants the Canaanite woman’s request because of her faith, saying, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” This shows that His mission, while initially focused on Israel, always included a broader scope—revealing that God’s mercy and salvation extend to all who believe...

Stop with the desperate attempts to derail abeg and focus!

How could Jesus Christ of Israel have, according to you, ultimately granted the woman what you pretended he did without essentially doing two things that are written in that book that God can never do — God is not a man that He should change His mind regarding His decrees, neither is He the son of man that he should lie?

Note: The text instead says that Jesus Christ healed the woman's daughter, not grant her the mercy of David —Eternal Salvation—which she had originally asked for. But you somehow pretend that the healing of her daughter is the same. Why?

Maysdevices:
As expected

Of course, it is from the book of religious gibberish since none of it can be traced back to any other meaningful source.

Maysdevices:
➜Yeah. He can do whatever He wants. Your purity and righteousness is a filthy rag and has almost no bearing on his decisions concerning human beings because they are naturally deceptive and none follow His rules willingly. They follow them for the rewards He hardens the hearts of who He wants to and soften the hearts of who He wants to. He can decide you are for dishonorable use and make you sin. He can take pity on a murderer over a common thief and set him as king over the meek I don’t why you seem to think I’m arguing with you I just told you He can do what He wants

1. You people never seem to make sense of any kind. You didn't respond to any of the questions I had asked.

Again,
1. Can do even after He, the God of Israel, said He will only do for His people whom He named and claims are His only inheritance in the Land of men? Can do, even after this same God is reported to have sent His Son only to the Lost sheep of Israel —the bloodline of Jacob alone? Can do even though His Son came to welcome prostitutes and others like them to His fold who were of the bloodline of Israel essentially hinting that these ideas of sexual purity which you lot like to hold onto in your delusions mean absolutely nothing to Him and His followers.
2. Or does it mean that this God changes His mind a lot and essentially tells lots of lies?

Cause if you pretend this sexual purity nonsense means something then it invariably means that you are leaning on option 2 above. Which is it?

Maysdevices:
Where does his claim come from

From the book of religious gibberish, the same book that manufactured over 45,0000 different denominations —idols — as part of the religion called Christianity; the book is filled with the ideas and numerous interpretations of your many scammers-in-the-lords aka gods of men.

Maysdevices:
➜Because God can do whatever he likes.
➜Endeavor to read Ecclesiastes. What you just wrote was what the author lamented about all through

➜Can do even after He, the God of Israel, said He will only do for His people whom He named and claims are His only inheritance in the Land of men? Can do, even after this same God is reported to have sent His Son only to the Lost sheep of Israel —the bloodline of Jacob alone? Can do even though His Son came to welcome prostitutes and others like them to His fold who were of the bloodline of Israel essentially hinting that these ideas of sexual purity which you lot like to hold onto in your delusions mean absolutely nothing to Him and His followers.

Or does it mean that this God changes His mind a lot and essentially tells lots of lies?

2. What is contained in Ecclesiastes is instead to inform you lot that these ideas even those of your purity mean absolutely nothing when it comes to the God of Israel. But you can know this since your minds are stuck with these ideas above anything else and so are blinded by your many delusions.

OctavianAC:
➜Please house, I need a little explanation on dowry at the beginning of ages. Did Adam paid Eve's dowry, who did he paid it to? And also did Abraham paid, who did he paid it to, because Sarah was his sister?

What does it matter whether he did or not? Are you of Hebrew descent like Abraham that you should model your life and existence—, or that of others around you— after the traditions of a people you are not connected in any way to?

Maysdevices:
➜You cannot force yourself on your woman either. If you are to love your wife like Christ loved the church as you were commanded in Bible, you should be able to die for her too and be beaten for her sake. Since you love to take Bible literally because of your insatiable lust

Take which bIble literally? His claim does not come from the Israelite Scriptures so how can you suggest he took the book literally?

Maysdevices:
Go away

Because you know very well that your claim was a bloody arse lie! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Maysdevices:
➜The rules for marriage changed when Israel was created. The world was lawless before then

There are bloody lies and something tells me you are aware of this too! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Thundafireseun:
➜The other 100 percent God showed up for, will agree with me

Stop lying! The God of Israel —YHWH— has never showed up for any person believed to be Nigerian because He said His one and only people are those who are of the bloodline of Jacob. Claiming otherwise is tantamount to declaring the God of Israel a worthless liar whose words to His people —Israel — mean absolutely nothing.