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TimiRume:
I wish I understand you! Seems you are intentionally mixing things up for the sake of arguing 😁 mehhn I don't have strength o

LOL... You don't understand Jesus Christ is the problem, right?

Dapromzy333:
The President and founder of LoveWorld Incorporated, better known as Christ Embassy, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, has said the fire incident at the church’s headquarters was not an accident but an avenue for bigger and better things.
He said this during a live Sunday service at the church’s campground in Asese, Ogun State.
The church headquarters, located in the Oregun area of Ikeja, Lagos State, caught fire on Sunday morning, News360 Nigeria reports
This was revealed in multiple videos from the scene shared on X.com on Sunday.
Speaking on the incident, Oyakhilome said, “Nothing happens in the life of a child of God by accident. During the 2001 Ikeja Cantonment bombing incident, the building vibrated so much and we thought it was going to collapse.
“I thought to myself that if it collapsed, I was going to build a bigger, better one. At the end of the day, it didn’t collapse and we called the engineers to see if there was any need to bring it down and rebuild but it was still okay.
“Now that this has happened, we will build a bigger, better, and more glorious one and the devil will lick his wound.”
Officials of the Lagos State Fire and Rescue Service are also said to be at the scene to salvage the situation.
Sharing a video from the location, Augustine, tweeting as Chief_Augustin1 on X.com, wrote, “Christ Embassy Church on Billings Way, Oregun, is on fire. “Serious fire is raging, and men of the Lagos State Fire Service are working hard to put it off. Thank God service hasn’t commenced fully.”

I hope fire investigators will at least make sure this is not an attempt by the church to destroy the old, collect insurance money, to build a bigger and better one as the pastor there said.

TimiRume:
■ Of course Jesus didn't say that expressly but he implied it clearly enough. And I was buttressing his point with how people can't get more out of a thing if they are comfortable on ground 1.
2) Well, the right procedure is his law or standard for sure. Which is simply abiding in his word. Searching it out everyday for light.

1. Jesus Christ, who explicitly stated that He was sent by His Father ONLY to the Lost sheep of Israel implied that which is directly against His very Father's Will. Where? How? Jesus Christ proclaimed that His Word is EverLasting —Unchanging— so why are you attempting to change His Words when they are meant to remain the same forever? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

2. Simply abiding? Wrong! Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments — His Law and agreement—, the same thing the God of Israel said to His people Israel after He gave them His agreement/Law in the desert. So, why are you saying something else? Jesus Christ never said anything about searching anything out every day for light. So, why do you assert that His light is instead to be found by searching it out every day?

TimiRume:
■ Well it's not as straightforward as that. God desires that everyone should know the truth and be free but if everyone must see the truth then everyone must follow the right protocols.
■ If for example a man gives out some plots of land to his sons as their inheritance. And in those lands, are carefully hidden diamonds. They would have to follow the right procedures to get them out else they won't. They land parcels would still be theirs but they won't get much from them. Some may be okay with just planting food crops, some rearing sheep. But few may be more inquisitive and decide to go further down.
You see, it's not their father stopping the others from discovering their lands, it's them being comfortable with the meager benefits. Diamonds like the precious reality of God's word are hidden from mere sight but would be found only by those who tenaciously come after them

1. Where do you have God of Israel Himself, who sent Jesus Christ only to the Lost Sheep of Israel, stating what you have there in bold?

2. The right procedure is His Law, Jesus Christ, but even at that, God of Israel made clear that His Law applies only to the Lost Sheep of Israel. Jesus Christ affirmed this too. So, are you certain your understanding does not equally come from your being okay with "just planting food crops, some rearing sheep"?

Padipadi:
■ If your house burn and you v decided to count your loss in peace, will you be happy if you're recorded and broadcasted worldwide as if they ll help you in repair or damages? Don't just be a junkie roaming around Nairaland dishing trash anytime you hear church? Go to play store and download available tokunbo brain app. You need brain!

So long as I live on a street where other people live and have their properties, and I expect taxpayer money to be used in saving my property, I see no problem in having the fire broadcasted to those around so they know what is going on and maybe protect their properties too. The last time we had a fire here, it was on the news that same evening. So, the question is what are your church people trying desperately to hide?

FxMasterz:
■ So, God would not do miracles in the lives of those on whom He has had mercy? Then, what would be the difference between those who receive God's mercy and those who don't? God performs miracles everyday on all those on whom He has bestowed mercy.
■ Ecclesiastes 3:14 "I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever:"
■ The rod was called Moses' rod for a reason. It abode with Moses until his death. He climbed to the top of Pisgah with it. Did the rods swallowed by Moses' rod ever return to the magicians who owned them? The magicians lost their rods, and they lost them forever.

This is why I say your religious folks do not worship the God of Israel or His Son, Jesus Christ.

1. The God of Israel said He will have mercy on whoever He chooses to have mercy on. He had mercy on Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar, Nineveh, etc., all of them non-Israelites and hence non-worshippers of Him. The God of Israel has mercy on all of mankind daily(including the idol worshippers and the wicked). This means that everyone on the planet experiences his mercy regularly. There is no such thing as "those who receive God's mercy and those who don't". God of Israel made clear that He pours out His mercy on both the wicked and the ungrateful. Everything is from God regardless of its source. However, it is not from Jesus Christ who instead made clear that the mercies are instead from God.

2. Are you certain that you have a clear understanding of what the author meant in that context? Think carefully about what you read. God created human beings but humans do not live for eternity nor will they all endure to eternity. Does that mean that statement in Ecclesiastes is invalid?

3. You did not answer the question. Does that same rod currently exist somewhere today? Was it meant as an eternal rod? Yes or No?

TimiRume:
■ Lol Oops. Anyway, I've created the thread so I must answer every differing view no matter how eerie they sound. 😁 I think Jesus had to speak in parables to a people who were not seeking truth. Truth is like a jewel. Why cast her out there casually. It's so unbefitting of her class. It's like letting gold litter every street corner. It will cease being gold. It's value is in its scarcity.
A commoner will never place value on something thrown at him at no price, it will just be another cheap item, cos that's what people do to cheap things. They are exposed for every one and people price them even further down.
God forbid, that God's word should be reduced to such status hence Jesus carefully guarded it. Thanks 🙂

Well, based on what you just said, you equally believe the Truth of God is not meant for everyone.

Marvfem:
May God forgive

Leave God out of it abeg!

Jamestaiwo:
How can you be a disciple of Jesus and you do not preach the Gospel?1 Corinthians 9:16
[16]For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
Romans 1:16
[16]For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

And statements made by Paul serve as his standard in this case? The dude should make up his mind abeg! Na Paul him dey follow abi no be Paul.

Ekugbeh:
have you been scammed before

There scam has impacted all of Nigeria. Yes, all of Nigeria has been scammed by them all.

Dapromzy333:
The President and founder of LoveWorld Incorporated, better known as Christ Embassy, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, has said the fire incident at the church’s headquarters was not an accident but an avenue for bigger and better things.
He said this during a live Sunday service at the church’s campground in Asese, Ogun State.
The church headquarters, located in the Oregun area of Ikeja, Lagos State, caught fire on Sunday morning, News360 Nigeria reports
This was revealed in multiple videos from the scene shared on X.com on Sunday.
Speaking on the incident, Oyakhilome said, “Nothing happens in the life of a child of God by accident. During the 2001 Ikeja Cantonment bombing incident, the building vibrated so much and we thought it was going to collapse.
“I thought to myself that if it collapsed, I was going to build a bigger, better one. At the end of the day, it didn’t collapse and we called the engineers to see if there was any need to bring it down and rebuild but it was still okay.
“Now that this has happened, we will build a bigger, better, and more glorious one and the devil will lick his wound.”
Officials of the Lagos State Fire and Rescue Service are also said to be at the scene to salvage the situation.
Sharing a video from the location, Augustine, tweeting as Chief_Augustin1 on X.com, wrote, “Christ Embassy Church on Billings Way, Oregun, is on fire. “Serious fire is raging, and men of the Lagos State Fire Service are working hard to put it off. Thank God service hasn’t commenced fully.”

I hope fire investigators will at least make sure this is not an attempt by the church to destroy the old, collect insurance money, to build a bigger and better one as the pastor there said.

FxMasterz:
■ Miracles, signs and wonders, healings, etc., happen to voodoo unbelievers, witches, atheists, agnostics, etc., every single day because wherever there is an original, there'll be many counterfeits.
■ The difference is that "Whatsoever God doeth, it abideth forever." The ones that the people you listed do are always ephemeral. Go and research. Moses' rod swallowed up others because the others were counterfeits.

So, miracles happen every day and everywhere not because God Himself said He will have mercy on whomever He wishes, even on the wicked and the ungrateful but because in your mind there are originals and there are fakes?

2. Where in Scripture did you get the statement in bold from abeg? Are you somehow trying to tell me that Moses's rod which swallowed up the others exists even to this day and will forever?

dckng16:
■ Would you allow some riff raffs to come tarnished your image because they want to make their daily bread. Right from time, press has been very hostile to Christ Embassy. They is no way they will entertain such.

The reporters are riffraffs, but you don't mind having the tax money from the pockets of those same riffraffs being used in putting out the fire that seeks to consume your property?

FxMasterz:
■ You're the one who's as confused as Satan himself. Jesus said those who work iniquity, He'll regret! He never said He'll reject those who work miracles.
Mathew 7:23
"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
Take note! "Ye that work iniquity." Not 'Ye that work miracles'.

I see you are struggling to comprehend what Jesus Christ said there. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jesus Christ indicated there that it does not matter that you do miracles and wonders saying you use His name to do it, rather what matters is whether you are wrong — you do works of iniquity or not. So, why are you brandishing these same miracles and wonders that Jesus Christ said do not matter for anything as proof of Jesus Christ who instead said they are not that which should matter?

MrCuteking:
This is how a true leader should act. Recognize that we, the citizens need explanation to how our taxes and country’s wealth is spent. A true leader should act like a servant. I don’t see why people speak against this act of transparency.

Where is the transparency though? All the report says is that he supposedly completed 90 roads. It does not state how much was spent on each, who was awarded the contract, the grade of work, etc. But here you are already rushing to praise him for what he has yet to do. E be like say disconnect na major problem for many so.

How to Recall an incompetent Nigerian Senator like Orji Kalu who brings shame to the name of Ndigbo

stagger:
■ what is their mission there? Do u see people going to take videos and pictures when first responders are working in other countries?

What are you church people hiding for Pete's sake?

FxMasterz:
■ Your hatred cannot stop the work of God.

This is instead Jesus Christ who is the Word of God.

3. Jesus Christ said those who believe in Him will do the good(righteous) works He did. He did not say those works were works of healing and casting out demons though. The same Jesus Christ is recorded in Matthew 7 to have made clear that those whose focus is on doing wonders and signs are not of Him.

21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants.
22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’
23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’ - Matthew 7 vs 21 - 23

The signs revealed in Mark 16 are signs that follow those who believe in Jesus Christ. They are by no means of good works and not that which Jesus Christ said His Followers would do so much more of.

Miracles, signs and wonders, healings, etc., happen to voodoo believers, witches, atheists, agnostics, etc., every single day on this planet to confirm what the God of Israel said which is that He will show mercy to those who He wishes to show mercy and He will do it every day.

Padipadi:
■ You deserve to be malhandled for tarnishing the image of the Church. If CE bars journalists, they should obey. What's ya problem with the fire outbreak? Na you cause am?

What are your church people trying to hide?

Tradman:
Why that man allow kalu in government House. That virus that has stolen Abia money

Because Ndigbo does not want to recall him but bless him with all of that money he continues to steal using their name. 100millionGoal, are you equally proud of Orji.

How to Recall an incompetent Nigerian Senator like Orji Kalu who brings shame to the name of Ndigbo

Antoeni:
What Are. They. HIDING

That was my first thought after watching the video as well.

bennybuhari:
The pastor boasted that they will build a more glorious one

You sure no be arson then?

FxMasterz:
∆ And they did exactly that:
"Then his disciples went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord kept working with them and confirming the message..."
John 14:23
"Jesus answered him, "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him."
"All believers have the Father's Presente. Jesus said "Lo, I am with you even to the close of the age." Mathew 28:20.
All these are lies. This is the complete statement of Jesus:
John 14:11-1
"Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
Jesus said He'll do the works whenever we ask Him to do them!
They happened to Pharaoh's magicians too. But do you know the difference? Moses' rod swallowed up all their rods.

I hate this religious story telling.

FxMasterz:
■ Lol. What did Jesus mean when He said these:
"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Matthew 28:20.
■ "And they went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked through them, confirming His word by the signs that accompanied it." Mark 16:20.
■ "Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father." John 14:12.

1. In the first one, you conveniently ignored the major command given them which is to teach to the people the very same commandments and teachings He gave to them.

2. In the statement taken from Mark 16, Jesus Christ said the signs listed in Mark 16 vs 16 - 18 were signs that followed those who believed in Him; the signs in question were not signs that confirmed God's presence in the lives of those who were healed by his followers but rather signs that they, His followers, were believers in Him.

3. Jesus Christ said those who believe in Him will do the good(righteous) works He did. He did not say those works were works of healing and casting out demons though. The same Jesus Christ is recorded in Matthew 7 to have made clear that those whose focus is on doing wonders and signs are not of Him.

21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants.
22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’
23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’ - Matthew 7 vs 21 - 23

The signs revealed in Mark 16 are signs that follow those who believe in Jesus Christ. They are by no means of good works and not that which Jesus Christ said His Followers would do so much more of.

Miracles, signs and wonders, healings, etc., happen to voodoo believers, witches, atheists, agnostics, etc., every single day on this planet to confirm what the God of Israel said which is that He will show mercy to those who He wishes to show mercy and He will do it every day.

FxMasterz:
∆ Because He was asked to do something and He did that it without the intervention of any human.

Most of you are so confused you no longer realize your very confusion. Jesus Christ said those who will come to Him claiming to have done works of wonders using His name, He never knew. But here you asserting that Jesus Christ must have lied because all healings done even those done not using His name are proof of His person.

DepressedBully:
■ is your brain located insider your anus for you be shutting smelly defecating opinion?
Pay child support for another man's child? Are you stupid and cursed?

Your brain is indeed located in your anus. OP made clear the child in question is his daughter, but since comprehension go dey difficult for you na why you no fit connect the dots at all.

100millionGoal:
Ndigbo are proud of you.
Most populous tribe in Nigeria are proud of you 😁😁😁
E go pain some people.
Yet post in this forum consist 80% about us.
😁😁😁
I'm proud to be an IgboMan abeg

But Ndigbo refuse to recall Orji who is feeding fat up there in NASS courtesy of Ndigbo? Something is definitely wrong here.

IVYWonder9:
The man and God Jesus Christ would have been under a curse if he had turned water into an alcoholic wine... Because the Bible said something tough about that... But surprisingly, that phenomenon is passed through ordinary miracles. It was a message for the Israelites. What is the message?

● Under what curse? Please be specific!
● Was YHWH under a curse when He commanded that His people could sell their tithe and then use the money to buy even strong intoxicating drinks/wine?
● And where do you get off claiming the wine Jesus Christ made was not alcoholic?

IMAliyu:
It's interesting how we've mostly all come to the conclusion that slavery and ownership of another human is immoral now a days, inspite of the Quran and Bible being permissive of it.
And things are slightly better for it, compared to the needless human suffering because of slavery in the past.

Most every Nation on the planet including the former nations of Israel and Judah described in Scripture all permitted at some point.

NB: The nations of Israel and Judah of Scripture ceased to exist about 2500 and 1900 years ago respectively.

Handsomejok:
I had done everything for pur marriage to work but she refused to amend our marriage and we separated now that I am living happily with my new babe then boom she started spreading rumours about me molesting her daughter something I have never done before she is doing all this thing because she is jealous that I am living happily after our separation. So I've contacted her asking her why is she spreading false allegations on me and if she is sure that I molested her daughter she should take the matter to the police so the police will request for a medical report on the child to see if I did it or not. She said she will take the matter to the police which she hasn't done but she keep spreading rumours about something that I have never done and people started believing her without her having any valid evidences. She is ruining my reputation with lies and I don't know what to do? Please help

After what you had done to the same girl when she was barely 2 years of age— you condemned the child of witchcraft against your progress—, oga, e had to take your side in this issue. Since you already have a woman of your own, please let your ex take care of the child while you make sure you pay her child support at least.

Mindlog:
For 40 years he lived in Italy, he couldn't find a woman in Europe to marry,?

Excellent question!

dealslip:
That he came on social media first doesn't make him blameless. The things women endure in marriage that many men don't even know causes resentment and pain in their wives are too many. Infact many men assume, their wives will never leave and so don't even adjust when the woman is complaining about certain things. They just always assume, all women want is money. They focus on responsibilities and neglect the relationship.
■ Many of our mothers are very very hurt and bitter at how they are treated but the pressure of approval from society made them stay, we now have a generation of women who have sworn not to be left bitter and resentful, that's the present crop of women many men are now complaining about.

Why are you trying to brandish her endurance as though it should somehow matter in all of this. The man said him no do anymore; in fact, make she dey carry the kids go. It never mattered what the woman chose to endure. It does not matter at all that she chose to endure because there's never any medal or award awaiting her at the end it all. She chose of her own volition to endure nonsense and at the end of the day, the man she chose to endure all that shit with chose to abandon her and her kids. End of story!

2. The same nonsense happened to many of our mothers so the question is why are women not learning the right lessons? Why do they continue to spit in the face of common sense for Pete's sake? How long will Nigerian women in marriage continue to play the victim card abeg!

Fiscus105:
■ What would have made all the children to gang up against their father, if indeed he his peace loving and caring father? Learn how to hear other side before you jump to conderm them. Everybody would say good thing about him/ herself.

The man already said it is over with him and her. Hopefully, the woman hears this clearly and wakes the fk up from the 37-year delusion jo! She and her children have been abandoned after 37 years, which is all this means. There is no way of erasing this fact or making it sound better than it does.

Caaz:
This here is the second ublic announcement of dissolution of marriage I have read today in this forum.
Truth's women endures lots of nonsense from their husbands and they ve locked their hearts n affection against their husbands. Most women are patiently waiting to deal with their husbands at old age(take it or leave it)like this woman here just did.

For what purpose? Who beg them? Why? There is no medal at the end of it all... has never been... so why endure? Fela call am suffering and smiling; it is 2024 and many of them are still it. No be brain damage be that! Abegi!