₦airaland Forum

kpakpakpa:
■ Spot on. As a christian, we all know that there are fakes out there but not all of them. And he now said those who practice religion are not the followers of Jesus christ. See general judgement!

So never mind that Jesus Christ did condemn all the religious leaders— He decreed curses on them all—, including those of His time, you want to believe that Jesus Christ did mean those teachings of His? He made a mistake, is that it?

RoyalBlu:
■ How about you focus more on preaching the good news of Jesus Christ whom you seem to know so well to nairalanders and leave the shortcomings of these believers for God to judge? Cos you're beginning to 'look' like a pharisee in my mind's eye

LOL... I don't live according to the doctrines fed to you by your gods of men— your religious leaders. I instead live in obedience to Jesus Christ who said His followers are to focus on obeying ALL of His teachings and commandments, not just the ones that agree with their particular ideas.

If you didn't know before now, God is not the one to judge these things. Jesus Christ already told you that His followers are to judge these things given that He informed them all to judge all things according to His righteous judgment — His teachings and commandments.

kpakpakpa:
■ Are you saying that there is no true man of God? You always comment against all of them.

Jesus Christ said those who love Him — are His true followers— are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teaching and commandments. Meaning that anyone who indeed loves Jesus Christ would do only that which is as taught and commanded by Jesus Christ. The fruits of obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ are what would be observed from those who truly love Him. Those fruits can never be observed in those who practice religion because Jesus Christ informed His followers that religion, even the one that existed when He was in the world, was antiChrist. Can one be a part of religion and have a part in Jesus Christ?

RoyalBlu:
■ This is a blank shot you just fired Kobo. If you knew him and his works, you wouldn't have typed what you did.

Well, here's the thing. Jesus Christ said, "By their fruits — not their works — you shall know them." This man, like the others around him, used the name of Jesus Christ to teach ideas and traditions that are not of Jesus Christ. Can that which is against Jesus Christ be for Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ said no.

kpakpakpa:
■ What is it with your comments insensitive comments about men of God. I have been noticing this for long. Care to share your story?

Jesus Christ said they are all just false teachers and false prophets, thieves that come to come to steal from His sheep, to kill the fat of His flock, and to destroy them - John 10 vs 7 - 16 & Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 31. He warned that not only were they— the religious leaders beginning of those who even came before His time — antiChrist but that their doctrines and traditions were equally against God's very Truth - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. He dedicated almost half of His Gospel to warning you against these men and their tactics. What more do you need?

I happen to be a follower of Jesus and as a result not a fan of these liars and their many scams which destroy the lives of those who get entangled by them.

OLAADEGBU:
'A True General of the Lord': Evangelist Jerry Savelle Dies at 77. Through the years, he ministered in more than 3,500 churches in over 40 nations.

Another religious scammer aka wolf in sheep's clothing has gone to his grave.

triplechoice:
■ I'm afraid you have a very distorted view of what marriage is. The signing of the dotted lines are mere formalities. Focusing on that as if that's all that matters will distract from the goal . Random strangers don't just walk into the registry to " buy" the product . Do they?

My view is not in the least bit distorted at all. Those formalities establish what you call a marriage — which means you have obtained the product. And marriage is the goal of those who sign those dotted lines. Whatever they do after that is considered marriage? So?

Yes, even random strangers are not barred by law from doing just that. So, I am not certain what you are going on about here.

triplechoice:
■ Where are you getting the statistics from? From all over the world or a particular region?
And what's alternative to marriage and your definition of marriage?

Right there in Nigeria. https://punchng.com/marriage-experts-worry-over-rising-divorce-among-young-couples/
■ Singledom and relationships without marriage commitments are alternatives.

triplechoice:
■ Marriage is not a product you buy from the market. It's something you have to build together with a willing partner you have chosen to love for the rest of your life. If you're not ready for that , then don't go into it.
■ Enactment of laws and protection from government are not the things that would make any marriage successful .

Lol.. the moment you sign the agreement papers or you fulfill the traditional marriage requirements, you pretty much bought the product called marriage. What you do with it afterward is between you and your marriage business partner.

2. Make marriage successful ke? We are talking about making it more enticing than it has currently become.

triplechoice:
■ You have given a wrong interpretation to the parable. Having a direct experience of something is sometimes the only only way you can judge iif it's actually good or bad and not by listening to the experience of others who had it bad
Those ones will so mess up your mind with their own negative experiences to the extent you start imagining that "the river does not seem to benefit many as it used to "The river is there for you to step into and use for your own benefit. How you achieve that is dependent on the effort you, yourself ,put into it.

This here discussion has absolutely to do with whether one has experienced it or not. The fact is clear to all, by way of the statistics available, that more and more individuals are opting for alternatives to marriage. So, I am not certain of the place of experience in all of this.

Ilekokonit:
∆ In a nutshell, marriage has lost its unique selling point.

Precisely! The product needs improvement work done on it either through enactment of new laws and benefits for those who would choose it all while protecting them at the same time. And it could also benefit from some rebranding work.

FireUpNow:
■ Blame the economic power of people as times are getting tougher also moral values is eroding drastically. People of today lacks contentment. Could the family unit dying? The society is a total reflection of the family unit.

Aaabegi!

In 1981, the divorce rate in the State of Plateau, Nigeria, was recorded to have been around 81% among newlyweds. in 2012, a report went out that the divorce rate in Northern Nigeria was among the highest in the world. Now, of course, these reports come from the North where divorce is respected and tracked. In much of Southern Nigeria where divorce is traditionally found, official divorce rates have notoriously been maintained at below 0.1%. This does not consider the rate of marriage abandonment, the acceptable form of divorce among southerners, and equally as high as at least 50%. What has the economic power to do with the high divorce rates recorded even in Plateau state back in the 1980s?

Faposky95:
■ Ever asked why life is not fair....? You choose Y or N..... No in-betweens

I have absolutely no reason to want to ask that question at this point. That is because I have to accept that Life itself is unfairness and there is no mistake as to why it is exactly that way.

triplechoice:
■ You cannot determine the depth of river by standing at its bank.

No one is attempting to determine here the depth of the river that is marriage. What we are saying is that the river does not seem to benefit many as it used to and it may be time to fill parts of it in so the cost to the individual of crossing it is no longer as great as it used to be.

Hanndye:
■ It wasn't about racism or Israelites only, it was about being in the household of God.
■ Are there not mixed-company among Israelites? These being people of other races that had joined themselves to the Jews.
■ Even the favored people had to repent and have faith to receive from Jesus. It was about being in the household of God.
■ Her faith in the Master, which even some Jews did not have, saved her daughter on that day.

So, you think that Jesus Christ's declaration seemed racist and so you felt the need to save Him by casting Him as some sort of liar? Interesting!

You speak of the household of God but forget that the same God declared that He is the God of not, the Philistines, the Canaanites, or the Amelekites, but instead the God of Israel. You forget that this is the same God who proclaimed that His only inheritance in the

7 Remember the days of old; consider the years of many generations; ask your father, and he will show you, your elders, and they will tell you.
8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders[a] of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
9 But the Lord's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage. - Deuteronomy 32 vs 7-9

If God Himself declared that His Household is that which is comprised of the descendants of Jacob— people with the blood of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob running through their veins —, and Jesus Christ was submitted to the Will of His Father, YHWH(God of Israel), why then do you consider it racist that Jesus Christ would declare that His Father sent Him only to the Lost sheep of Israel? Why not outright declare that the God of Israel was racist from the get-go and abandon Him altogether? Why choose to ignore the Word of Jesus Christ when His Words are in following with that which was decreed by His Father?

2. I am not certain why you feel the need to mention the mixed company when the instructions given by the God of Isreal clearly that the Covenants belong only to those who are of the blood of Israel— descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? . How could they have joined themselves to the Jews(the Benjamites, Levites, and Judaic subset of the original Nation of Israel) without being joined to them by blood— the life of a man is in his blood— of Jacob? How?

3. These stories of yours reveal ignorance of Scripture. Right there in John 3 vs 14 - 18, Jesus Christ told you that the people He came to redeem were those who were judged and cursed by God as a result of their disobedience of His Old Law. The people who you say are favored by God were judged and condemned by Him to perish in the grave. Jesus Christ, like the bronze snake, came to offer them salvation from that condemnation aka Death that they were condemned to.

4. If you look up what God said in Genesis 26 vs 2-5, you would understand that to have faith simply means to live one's life in submission and obedience to God's Law. That is after all what Abraham did— have faith in God— and was hence justified by God for. As a foreigner living in the land of Canaan, even the Canaanite woman was required to abide by the Law of Moses which happened to the National Constitution of the nation at the time. And for that, she too earned faith, even though she was not of the blood of Jacob.

Yes, she had faith but her faith did not change the fact that she was not one of the Master's children, and as a foreigner she was entitled, even by The Old Law, only to the crumbs from the master's table. She said that herself, did she not? The Canaanite woman was not one of those whom He was sent to by His Father to redeem from the curse of the Old Law since by virtue of her not being an Israelite by birth— not of the blood of Israel —, she did not qualify.

bishop212:
■ that still cannot excuse the place of external influnce on societies whether u are ready to see it or not.

Given the fact that as far back as the 1980s, the official divorce rate in parts of Nigeria were equally high, this claim of external influence, particularly the Western media, holds little to no water. You need evidence and facts, to blame the problem on external influence.

bluefilm:
This is bullshít. Marriage is still important to those who feel like marriage is important to them

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FireUpNow:
It's a lie. Those who still values marriage are enjoying it

Of course, marriage is but does that change the fact that marriage is on the decline meaning that the percentage of those venturing into marriage at the end of each day has seen a big drop? No! Is it necessarily a bad thing? No!

bishop212:
■ thats my own observation, not the absolute reason for the failure of marriages today but pary of the curse. socially and technologically exposed societies and underdebeloped ones cant have same sickness.

Seems more like a conclusion drawn from your refusal to accept that the society which is Nigeria ought to be responsible for its many problems and issues.

Hanndye:
■ The woman in question was asking for a miracle and not salvation. Otherwise she would have been told to embrace Judaism and come close to the Master because of the incoming dispensation. Because of the incoming era even John was born, to make His way straight. John 1:22,23.

Stop twisting yourself into knots over what is plainly written!

21 And Jesus went away from there and withdrew to the district of Tyre and Sidon.
22 And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “ Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David ; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon.” - Matthew 15 vs 21 - 22

The woman in question invoked mercy under the Covenant of David and then asked to be healed by Jesus Christ by it. That was the problem. That Covenant only applied as far as those who were of the Blood of Jacob.

Think of this a different way! According to the same you, Jesus Christ lived His Life in submission to the Old Law of Moses, so why would He have obliged her under the terms of a different Covenant that He was not even qualified to give to her?

bishop212:
the sole culprit responsible for the decay of the marriage institution is western media! they started by feeding us with morally deranged movies where two unmarried lovers will be having sex. this movies are always so romantic and interesting that you will ignore the error ( the fact that they are unmarried) and cocus on the love they are trying to portray that was how yheu gradually eroded the relevace of marriage,making people to begin to thinl that its ok for bf and gf to hv sex
secondly ..they introduced porn. promoted the hell out of love songs.songs that fans the flames of lust . they really worked hard to destroy marriages and its finally paying off.

Interesting claim! So, what you would have us believe is that the divorce rate recorded even in Plateaus state back in the 1980s was a result of Western media?

The Extent and Rate of Divorce in Plateau State, Nigeria 1980 to 1988
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J087v21n03_08
Investigated the extent and rate of divorce, causes of divorce, and attitudes toward divorce laws among 2,000 men and women from selected local government areas in Nigeria. Statistics on legal divorce were obtained from courts, and Ss completed a questionnaire regarding their attitudes regarding divorce. Results show a high divorce rate. Women were most likely to get a divorce in customary court, while men were most likely to get a divorce in a traditional village setting. 71.2% of divorced men had their divorce in courts, while 76.6% of divorced women had their marriages annulled in courts. Adultery and childlessness ranked among the highest reasons for divorce. Women were more likely than men to have negative attitudes toward divorce laws because women are always the victims of divorce and not protected by the law.

Denial is a sickness ravaging the minds of many a Nigerian, it seems!

Ibkay32:
■ Common bro, no one is perfect . She can do mistakes but not all the time. Some co-worker just decided to be a winch

Nobody is talking about perfection here but instead about making sure to double-check one's work to greatly minimize problems. If you have ever been hit by a typo problem yourself, you would understand how important it is for documents to be scrutinized.

joseph1832:
how did you know it failed those before me? Can you provide evidence to back up your claim?

The fact that marriage today is struggling means the measures and ideas implemented around marriage in the past have failed and new ideas are needed.

joseph1832:
■ believe me, I've asked, and the complain I hear is heart breaking. Oyibo kids can't be better than our naija kids.
■ The kids you see misbehaving and doing all sort of nonsense in naija, is as a result of copying the warp behavior of oyibo kids.
■ No right thinking Nigeria kid, who is well brought up in a proper home, can be compared to any oyibo kid(s)

Abegi, make we hear word! Come here and see those very same Nigerians who complain to you raising their kids to equally disregard other people and parents. Their kids are the same kind of arseholes they claim they hate other kids for being.

2. Stop telling lies! The fact that the kids that were raised over the past 60 years are the same ones running that corrupt country into the ground today speaks volumes. Na dem are the politicians of today and many of them didn't even grow up in homes with television or fathers able to afford foreign newspapers. Your kids are not raised any better than the foreign kids are. This lie that they need to die!

3. Stop lying!

Ibkay32:
■ The evil she's preparing for her 😂

What evil? OP's statement is the lady points out typos in the works of her co-workers. Wouldn't the right thing for OP to do be to double-check her work every time in order not to miss anything and as such not get caught by her co-worker?

Divoc19:
■ We are supposed to work as team. I have been condoling her for months until she made this unethical comment today. She’s had many victims on record.

But does working as a team mean she should not point out the errors in your work or something? You have been consoling her for months means other than your responsibilities as a member of the team, you have been paying undue attention to her person in the team, am I right? If you feel she has something against you as an individual then the best thing to do would be to follow the right channels in dealing with that so you both return to focusing on the work and the work alone.

Ibkay32:
■ Without doing you anything evil, her evil is already working on you, if you say you're planning to resign by month
■ You need to stay and face her Cast and bind her evil You go see say she will run comot the organization with notice

Exactly! Imagine someone in this day and age falling so cheaply for psychological manipulation of that kind and then wanting us to believe it was the other woman who caused it.

2. You lost me! Cast and bind what evil? See her run why?

Divoc19:
■ I don’t fight dirty Biko. The sky is wide enough for all.
■ If am not wanted I will continue moving until I start up my own business again. This is why some people get poisoned. I repeat. “Bad energy stay far away” is the motto of successful people. You don’t manage a self acclaimed wicked person. They don’t change. You won’t grow.

How does upping your game amount to fighting dirty? You are aware that your work might contain typos and even gave examples of how those typos could be used as a weapon against your performance. So, what does telling you to make sure to doubly proofread your work amount to asking you to fight dirty?

2. Now you are simply sounding like a typical Nigerian, always thinking enemies are everywhere when they are merely running from their own shadows.

Hanndye:
■ You had based your notion on the Bible and I asked you to to provide the evidence from the same Book and you couldn't. But now you want to go philosophical. That means you lost in the line of Bible truth.
'Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.' 2 Timothy 2:15. is an admonition from Paul to Timothy. Try and do the same. You will be glad you did. Peace.

The very pronouncement of Jesus Christ, the same one you pretend came to save you, are of my opinion? Yikes! So Jesus Christ who claimed to be the Word out of God's very own mouth is no longer so, according to you?

Yaa, this na definitely argument by pigheadedness at play here.
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Olorilolo:
■ Lmao . I'm not one of those who worship at that altar. Marriage is not all there is to life and you can choose to live however you want but my, does it add spices to life? Absolutely. I'll say again, for me, a good marriage is better than being single.
As for trends, people are getting divorced and married everyday. It's been the trend since forever, social media is only just broadcasting it.

The numbers have nothing to do with social media at all. Remarriage trends, even in the south, do not seem enough to counter the abandonment trends. It is partly for this reason that the Government in Nigeria decided it was time to criminalize marriage abandonment for good.

Olorilolo:
■ I'm in one. My parents are in one too. My sister is in one. Let's say I indulge you and I call marriage a business by your definition, Do you quit every business partnership because you have different ideas? Don't you make the best if what you agree and build on that?
■ Anyone is capable of being friends with people, for a long time, us capable of this so called business venture. And murder? Really? What's up with you?

You don't indulge me at all given that marriage has always been a partnership/agreement between a man and woman. Your denial of this fact is what concerns me instead. People quit business partnerships for various reasons and there is no law or reason why they shouldn't, particularly when there is no longer any benefit to be had in the union.

2. To get away with murder is an idiomatic expression

get away with murder
INFORMAL
succeed in doing whatever one chooses without being punished or suffering any disadvantage.
"some local authorities are letting real estate agents get away with murder"

joseph1832:
and live at the expense of your damaged kids? This is why oyibo kids turn out to be exactly what they are today.

Oyibo kids are far better than your Nigerians children. Ask anyone who lives in Oyibo land to tell you the truth.

joseph1832:
■ I'm actually admitting that the married, getting their heads outta their asses, and knowing the happiness of their kids, is paramount and far outweigh their own happiness is amongst the key to successful marriage

Essentially you argue that sacrificing one's own happiness and quality of life for the sake of the children— an idea which failed those before you— is the idea which you are still attempting to sell those of this generation even after they have more than learned that it is typically one of the partners in the marriage that does much of that sacrificing at the end of the day?

You are a comedian, aren't you?