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NaijaPrince18:
Africa was not always weak but very strong. Colonialism brought religion which has turned Africans into docile people. Once we ditch religion we will take our place

Morbeta11:
Hunger game level 2.......monkey come chop banana....Food Bandits will soon be born.

Antiislaam:
Go and suck your momma's breast maybe you'll sleep. If you don't get it, 4get it then Guy please stop wasting my precious time here, I don't deal with people like you

Antiislaam:
■ Did I said Jesus Christ associate himself with any religion or preach religion we should follow? Stop wasting my precious time here if you find it difficult comprehending my statement I'm here to face anyone following Muhammad, islam and the idol called allah and that is why I am Antiislaam

jackdorsey007:
■ Lol, if you can not tell whom my message if for, and who inspired it, you have a long way to go spiritually before you are able to discern truth from falsehood, but this could be your first start, even when the truth is preached, some still can not recognize it, they will rathe quote every quotable,
■ I am shocked you believe Christianity is the antichrist
■ and somehow believe the scriptures is not altered and created by antichrist led folks for even deeper deception, you re the first of your kind, But on a very good day, you will remember my post and say thank God i read that post.
■ Further more, If you use stimulants like ICE, please stop, you can be very useful to God eventually

jackdorsey007:
■ Clear the confusion for us then, I would love to know if you or i are the lost sheep? or who is the lost sheep?
■ Further more, The entire system we re living with is all an anti-christ system, singling out christianity does not make you right about anything, But within this very system, within the very religion, Lies those who God has chosen, Those who seek true Salvation, Calling anything Anti-Christ does not mean there are those who do not seek the truth within them, who need it, and whom will recognize it once it is here,
■ There are no two Salvation through Christ. So make your case, I have made mine, My case was for you to realize that seeking the kingdom of God is the path to obtaining the righteousness and blessings within, and there re no TWO kingdom of God, There is either this System you call anti-christ (Kingdom of Darkness) or The Kingdom of God, So if you read my post again, you will know where i belong and whom i am calling out to.
■ I still need your answers because from the looks of you things it seems you can not boldly assert which kingdom you belong to or if you re the lost sheep (or found sheep) and how we can identify the rest. If you can not answer those questions, i guess you re not of God yourself and you have only come to do exactly what antichrist will do, pervert the Good message of God and re-advertise everything as of the Devil

jackdorsey007:
■ "My Sheep knows me" If you are bold enough to identify with Christianity, It is a first step of Identifying with Christ, then if you are humble enough to accept him as your personal lord and saviour, My friend the union is formed, For whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
■ You still have not answered my questions, there are 5 questions, Because claiming that only Christ can identify them means no preacher or disciple of Christ should bother preaching the message of truth as Jesus had asked his disciples to do and make more disciples to continue same work, It also means those sheep who had been found and have the spirit of Christ in them can not be inspired by Christ through the holyspirit to identify the rest of the sheeps or obtain spiritual and intellectual knowledge on how to identify and aid propagate the kingdom of God, What you re saying is not making sense to me at this point until you answer the 5 questions, if you do not have the answers to the 5 questions, what makes you so sure that my method of preaching is not an inspired method aimed at fishing and reaching to the lost sheep who might come across this post, There is no other religion or God that claims to offer salvation through Christ except the Creator of All and Jesus , what is the need of discussing whom "SALVATION" is from in my original post, it is like asking the confused question they are asking now in the world about what a woman or man is or how can we identify them, when we know there are only two reproductive organs assigned to either gender to identify them. If a lost sheep comes across a post related to salvation through Christ, and the kingdom principles as stated, should it not be clear to the lost sheep what is going on here.
■ Did you understand the main point of the post (which is about the blessings of God) or were you merely carried away by the idea of the lost sheep of isreal? Do you intercede for people in your heart as you go about your day? Or is that something the lost sheep of the kingdom of God should not do?

kingxsamz:
■ You're fighting over nothing bros.

jackdorsey007:
■ Clearly there has to be a common way to identify the lost sheep of isreal if they have been scattered around the world, Which is what i am asking you, because shouting "MY LOST SHEEP GATHER HERE" will not do the trick, as it's not the title that will gather them, but the message of truth.
Lol, Maybe I should have added "To the lost sheep of Isreal only" at the beginning of my post so that they will know themselves automatically and gather here, NOOO my friend, When you re preaching the message of God, you preach to all, and when the right individuals come across the message, they will recognize it, "‘I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep." (John 10:14-15, NIV)
■ I still need you to answer those questions Sir. Also i need to learn how this affects my original post, because i still do not understand why it is relevant to address whom the salvation is from and for, merely stating the salvation and whom it is from, is enough for those who believe it is for them to accept it, or isn't it, I have so many questions for you my friend, but let's start there, and don't run oh

jackdorsey007:
■ You have not answered my question, you mentioned the scriptures were about 2000 years ago, i am asking who is salvation for as of today, who exactly is the lost sheep of isreal today?...

jackdorsey007:
■ Lol, Who is the lost sheep of isreal sir? explain to me in your understanding based on today, are you the lost sheep of isreal, or better yet, who is not the lost sheep of isreal, or what exactly does it mean to be the lost sheep of isreal, i want to understand you clearly

1 The word of the Lord came to me. He said,
2 “Son of man, speak against the shepherds of Israel for me. Speak to them for me. Tell them that this is what the Lord God says: ‘You shepherds of Israel have only been feeding yourselves. It will be very bad for you! Why don’t you shepherds feed the flock?
3 You eat the fat sheep and use their wool to make clothes for yourselves. You kill the fat sheep, but you don’t feed the flock.
4 You have not made the weak strong. You have not cared for the sick sheep. You have not put bandages on the sheep that were hurt. Some of the sheep wandered away, and you did not go get them and bring them back. You did not go to look for the lost sheep. No, you were cruel and severe—that’s the way you tried to lead the sheep!
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16 “I will search for the lost sheep. I will bring back the sheep that were scattered and put bandages on the sheep that were hurt. I will make the weak sheep strong, but I will destroy the fat and powerful shepherds. I will feed them the punishment they deserve.” ...- Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 31

jackdorsey007:
■ Well, my friend, I urge you to read and understand the expression of Love of God in John 3:16
John 3:16, which states, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
He didn't say, only some who believes in him, the factor there was "Whoever believes" , There has to be a soul, and that soul has to believe in order to be saved, If there is a soul who does not believe then he won't be saved, Your connection of Moses and Jesus is not clear, Sin is death, anyone who sins have chosen death hence all have sinned (condemned to die) not necessarily physical death, But because sin still remains a choice, a redemptive way was sent in the person of Jesus to save all from death.
God's perfect will is for all to be saved, 1 Timothy 2:4, which states that God "wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth."
But he also gave us all a choice to not be saved or not to come into agreement with his knowledge.
In Matthew 28:19-20, Jesus commands His disciples to go and make disciples of all nations, indicating a universal scope for His message of salvation.
In John 3:16, Jesus declares that God's love extends to the whole world, not just to a specific group of people.
Throughout His ministry, Jesus interacted with individuals from various backgrounds, including Samaritans, Romans, Greeks, and others, demonstrating His concern for all people.
Additionally, the Apostle Paul, in his letters, emphasizes the universal nature of salvation through Jesus Christ, proclaiming that salvation is available to both Jews and Gentiles alike (Romans 1:16, Galatians 3:28).
I think you re trying to say that God condemned all then sent a solution for few, But that's not the case, If not, I still do not get your point, communicate with me your own understanding of the scriptures, combining multiple scriptures to form an article might mislead you and i and those who will come to this thread

23 But Jesus did not answer her. So the followers came to him and said, “Tell her to go away. She keeps crying out and will not leave us alone.”
24 Jesus answered, “God sent me only to the lost people[d] of Israel.” - Matthew 15 vs 23 - 24

jackdorsey007:
■ Good, Great, Weldone, So you just answered you first few questions, who is the salvation and who giveth it, Jesus is the means to salvation giveth by God the Father, John 3:16, which states, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." So based on all your posts, have i said anything that is off the point in my original post, I believe all your posts to align with what was posted originally, or don't you think so?

4 The Israelites left Mount Hor and traveled on the road that goes to the Red Sea. They did this to go around the country of Edom. But the people became impatient.
5 They began complaining against God and Moses. The people said, “Why did you bring us out of Egypt? We will die here in the desert! There is no bread and no water! And we hate this terrible food!”
6 So the Lord sent poisonous snakes among the people. The snakes bit the people, and many of the Israelites died.
7 The people came to Moses and said, “We know that we sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray to the Lord. Ask him to take away these snakes.” So Moses prayed for them.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a bronze snake and put it on a pole. If anyone is bitten by a snake, that person should look at the bronze snake on the pole. Then that person will not die.”
9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole. Then when a snake bit anyone, that person looked at the bronze snake on the pole and lived. - Numbers 21 vs 4 - 9

14 “Moses lifted up the snake in the desert. It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted too.
15 Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life.”
16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.
17 God sent his Son into the world. He did not send him to judge the world guilty but to save the world through him. - John 3 vs 14-16

jackdorsey007:
■ John 10:30 (NIV): "I and the Father are one."
■ John 14:9 (NIV): "Jesus answered: 'Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?'"
■ John 17:21 (NIV): "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."
■ John 10:38 (NIV): "But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."
■ John 12:45 (NIV): "The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me."
■ John 14:10-11 (NIV): "Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves."

jackdorsey007:
■ Lol, You missed out on the understanding about the relationship dynamics of the trinity, But that's fine, You will think differently after tonight
John 10:30 (NIV): "I and the Father are one."
John 14:9 (NIV): "Jesus answered: 'Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?'"
John 17:21 (NIV): "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."
John 10:38 (NIV): "But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."
John 12:45 (NIV): "The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me."
John 14:10-11 (NIV): "Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves."
■ You need to realize that whatever Jesus does or says he does or say as a direct reflection of God, which is exactly what salvation is about, God gave us choice, but desires that we are one with him, such that we become a direct channel of his glory on earth, so he sent Jesus (came as flesh) to exemplify what it means to be one with God, United us with his spirit and here we are.
■ My post is mainly about how to live that kingdom life in our modern times, where people are confused as to what to do next after salvation, Just like now, I am praying for both of us to gain better understanding from this thread and nourish the lives of those reading this by enriching their spirit, So what you can do is also project same wishes towards myself and others who will read this such that they do not come into confusion as they come across this, such that you and i are both inspired with the truth through the holyspirit to serve as a channel for God himself to make his knowledge known to all.

jackdorsey007:
■ You speak of Jesus and His Father as though they are entirely seperate entities, Jesus said, He and his Father are one, Are you forgetting that part?

jackdorsey007:
■ I understand your confusion here, But let me simplify it for you so you don't end up thinking like every upcoming occultist does, Salvation is reunion with the Father whose will he is fulfilling,
■ There had to be a relatable channel to God beyond mere do's and dont's, Christ becomes an embodiment of what you should be or do in order to be one with God, God has never shown humans what he will act like, talk like or behave like if he was amongst humans, So he came in flesh as Christ and He is saying Become like me (emulate my ways, behaviours, thoughts, desires, deed etc) while you re on earth so you that you can be one with me who is in above all. I can dive deeper if you wish

14 “Moses lifted up the snake in the desert.[a] It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted up too.
15 Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life.”
16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.
17 God sent his Son into the world. He did not send him to judge the world guilty, but to save the world through him.
18 People who believe in God’s Son are not judged guilty. But people who do not believe are already judged, because they have not believed in God’s only Son. - John 3 vs 14 - 18

jackdorsey007:
■ Salvation could only come from one Source, Jesus Christ

jackdorsey007:
■ Christians have been misled to believe that Satan gives you in 5G when you seek because he is also quick to take from you once your exchange (soul) has expired and God takes so much time before he can bless you.
This is so untrue because the biggest blessing God can give you is Salvation, And salvation comes with his Kingdom, The mistake Christians make is that they obtain Salvation and then Start seeking wealth or health and what have you when the entire package comes together, When you accept Christ as your personal lord and savior, you accept all his thoughts, desires and intentions for you, Which was written to be of "Good" and not of "Evil".

AntiChristian:
■ Israel get God! But Nigeria no get!
■ God is for Israel so who is for the others? Satan! No wonder Satan is the God of this world in your Bible!

Expanse2020:
■ Ehen to you your own understanding to understand what the father said ....I see where the problems lies

Tobdek:
■ Lol. Do you live in Nigeria at all?

Tobdek:
■ I'm trying to avoid the negative attention that might generate. Who'd want to associate with an atheist in this hyper-religious clime?
■ More importantly, I may lose opportunities because of it.

Expanse2020:
■ You don't assume in what you don't know..you just bring your ideology into scripture you don't know about making claimed your assumption should be th fact
who have seen them to know there attribute because someone seeing them in dream baa
Ala magọ ooo

Tobdek:
■ I'm a student who's an undercover atheist. I'm always getting accosted by christian fellowships left, right and center on campus. As someone who hates any type of attention, most times, I pretend to be an unserious, non-churchgoing christian but that only seems to draw these people's attention to me.
Last semester, a guy invited me to church, service was scheduled for 7am, by 6:30am, this guy came to my room to wake me up! His face was literally the first thing I saw in the morning. It was so annoying. This is just one out of the many annoying things this guy and other evangelists have done to drag me to their church. I don't want to be known as an atheist for obvious reasons, yet, I want to ward off people like this guy and his ilk. I'd like to hear from other atheists.

Kizyte:
As far as it has been heated with high temperature

Expanse2020:
■ Your opinion is not welcoming in the scripture joor shift abeggiii 🤣
You should look for concrete evidence to backup your claim

Expanse2020:
■ I want to hear from you that why I asked you..I want to you to give me a better verdict than the opinion you are Making from your head

Expanse2020:
■ Ok how many people claimed they know about the 24elders in the bible....except John no others prophet said anything about them including Jesus

Expanse2020:
■ One of people said it that its only John that know about the 24elders