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Judek2:
And now that the whole world have him, was he still sent to the Jews only??

How can the whole world have that which Jesus Christ said belonged only to the Lost sheep of Israel? Use your head to realize that rather this means that what the whole world supposedly has is a fraud, not Jesus Christ!

Ken4Christ:
■ Every of Paul's writings were revelations from Jesus Christ himself. Jesus laid the foundation. The Apostles built on it. Without the writings of Apostle Paul and the other Apostles, there will not be the New Testament church. There would not have been instructions for us to live by. And no one is comparing Paul to Jesus. He wrote what his master Jesus revealed to him. Paul's writings were not his personal opinions.

These claims which are based on assumptions of yours — your special interpretations on steroids —do not answer any of the actual questions I asked so what exactly am I to do with this?

So, God of Isreal who bellowed down from Heaven on at least two occasions calling on people to Obey His Son, Jesus Christ, did not get it right, according to you? It was rather thanks to your claims regarding the person of Paul majorly that the New Testament church that belonged to Jesus Christ was able to get up and running, right? The Prophet and Teacher, the Good Shepherd, Jesus Christ, who was sent by the God of Israel was not capable of doing it alone. Paul had to come to the aide for it all to come together. WOW...

All the other 120 or more disciples there on the day of Pentecost— just 50 days after the death of Jesus Christ — were all useless in disseminating the very teachings of Jesus Christ which Jesus Christ Himself must have given to them as well. Right?

Without Paul's letters — he was probably not even among the first 1000 of the disciples of Jesus Christ seeing as he came on the scene many years later — the New Testament church would not have known what to do? Una never talk who do una this thing.

See wetin religion don do people head for Nigeria abeg! Which kain nonsense be this one abeg!

thinkmoney:
God measures and judges everyone accurately. However, when it comes to consistency of style, longevity, less controversy, knowledge, piety, good family reputation, church organization, coverage of the Bible and repertoire of Bible knowledge no modern mainstream pastor or preacher comes close to Pastor W.F. Kumuyi.
I try not to be sentimental or bias (you too can give mind to this assumption). I in fact, do not agree with him on the doctrine of Trinity and use of Gods name mainly, but then he has been extraordinary. I by Gods grace have gone deeper than his Deeper Life.

This is the foolishness of many that I can't seem to wrap my head around. You do not agree with him on doctrines he preaches but you are sure that even in this disagreement you have with Him, God is certainly in it all? Are you people for real? Surely, you understand that here you just declared the god you serve a god of confusion, right?

Plus1234:
■ The guy you are supporting is the op(Antichristian) .You don’t need it bro , it leads to nowhere good. Stop antagonizing or twisting the Bible.

I am equally against religion including the religion of Christianity which I continue to point out is antiChrist in its very orientation. So, what makes you think or conceive that I am your brother in this?

Jesus Christ condemned religion beginning with the religious leaders of his time along with their doctrines and traditions which He pointed out were lies designed to deceive and delude many away from the one path that is the Truth of God, so why in the world would anyone who knows Jesus Christ abide any religion including Christianity?

Plus1234:
■I doubt if you are sane.How dare you support a known antagonist of Christ.
■ It even baffles me your mum is a deeperlifer.

Support a known antagonist of who? How?

My mum still drags herself around as a deeper lifer, following after mogs/gods of men as juju worshippers drag after their babalawos, but what has A to do with B?

For those who truly care to know the Truth of Jesus Christ as presented in Scripture, below is in fact what Jesus Christ instead said. You can compare for yourself the Truth of God as presented in Scripture separate from the lies presented by your Christian lord of lies— religious authorities.

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While in the desert, God sent snakes to kill the Israelites for complaining. And then God told Moses to lift a bronze snake proclaiming that those of the people of Israel— no mention of the foreigners who lived among them in the entire tale— bitten by the snakes(condemned to die) who would choose to look up at the bronze statue would be saved from death(condemnation of death), a sentence inflicted on them by God Himself.

4 The Israelites left Mount Hor and traveled on the road that goes to the Red Sea. They did this to go around the country of Edom. But the people became impatient.
5 They began complaining against God and Moses. The people said, “Why did you bring us out of Egypt? We will die here in the desert! There is no bread and no water! And we hate this terrible food!”
6 So the Lord sent poisonous snakes among the people. The snakes bit the people, and many of the Israelites died.
7 The people came to Moses and said, “We know that we sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray to the Lord. Ask him to take away these snakes.” So Moses prayed for them.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a bronze snake and put it on a pole. If anyone is bitten by a snake, that person should look at the bronze snake on the pole. Then that person will not die.”
9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole. Then when a snake bit anyone, that person looked at the bronze snake on the pole and lived. - Numbers 21 vs 4 - 9

Moses lifted the bronze snake, and those who looked at it lived.

Jesus Christ told you in His Gospel that in much the same way that Moses lifted the snake in the desert for the people of Israel so also He too would be raised as a beacon for those among them — the people of Israel — who wished to live after they had been condemned to die by God of Israel - Deuteronomy 28.

14 “Moses lifted up the snake in the desert. It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted too.
15 Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life.”
16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.
17 God sent his Son into the world. He did not send him to judge the world guilty but to save the world through him. - John 3 vs 14-16

God is responsible for condemning the Israelites to perish in the grave — lost. And He, God then also sent Jesus Christ to save the same people... Israel... after condemning them to die. Same as He did with the serpent back in the desert.

So, in essence, The World that Jesus Christ was sent to is the same world that consists of those condemned of Israel aka the Lost sheep of Israel. Just as Jesus Christ made clear. But here you are saying instead that Jesus Christ came to some other people than the one Jesus Himself said His Father sent Him to, How come?

saintkeppy:
What's the need for all this English test when we all are English-speaking country? UK schools do not need this to gain admission. Time to check for alternative test like PTE or schools that do not require any of these, after all the aim is to japa.

English speaking my arse!

christemmbassey:
Most of the times christians and non-christians make the mistake of attributing everything in the bible to christianity. because of this christians feel obligated to defend some events especially those that happened in the old testament time. I want to state here that old testament judaism is a separate way of worship from christianity, Paul alluded to this when he stated in Gal:1:!3-14, "my conversation in time past in the 'jews religion". So my christian brothers and sisters let us consider this and be guided when we response to issues of the bible, we are christians and not jews. What do You think?

First of all, Judaism is a religion that came about around the time that the Jews were exiled in Babylon. Some among the people decided to emulate the Babylonian religious system which they had experienced during their time in captivity and brought the religion back with them — notoriously referred to as the LovePeddler of Babylon. God disavowed the religion and disavowed all of His Old Shepherds in the land even before that time because of it. Jesus Christ famously cast the religious leaders of His time down as children of the devil and even went as far as to speak curses on those who would emulate such ideas in His name. So, when Paul spoke to the Jews, he was not speaking to the religious leaders but to the Jewish people — descendants of Benjamin, Judah, and Levi in particular. Paul disconnected himself from religion to become a follower of Jesus Christ, remember?

thorpido:
He was sent to the whole world but His primary constituency was Israel.Why did He say this if He was sent only to Israel...And Jesus came and spake unto them,saying,all power is given unto Me in heaven and on earth.Go ye therefore and teach ALL NATIONS,baptizing them in the Name of the Father,and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost,teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.and lo,I am with you alway,even unto the end of the world.Amen(Matthew 28:18-20).

While in the desert, God sent snakes to kill the Israelites for complaining. And then God told Moses to lift a bronze snake proclaiming that those of the people of Israel— no mention of the foreigners who lived among them in the entire tale— bitten by the snakes(condemned to die) who would choose to look up at the bronze statue would be saved from death(condemnation of death), a sentence inflicted on them by God Himself.

4 The Israelites left Mount Hor and traveled on the road that goes to the Red Sea. They did this to go around the country of Edom. But the people became impatient.
5 They began complaining against God and Moses. The people said, “Why did you bring us out of Egypt? We will die here in the desert! There is no bread and no water! And we hate this terrible food!”
6 So the Lord sent poisonous snakes among the people. The snakes bit the people, and many of the Israelites died.
7 The people came to Moses and said, “We know that we sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray to the Lord. Ask him to take away these snakes.” So Moses prayed for them.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a bronze snake and put it on a pole. If anyone is bitten by a snake, that person should look at the bronze snake on the pole. Then that person will not die.”
9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole. Then when a snake bit anyone, that person looked at the bronze snake on the pole and lived. - Numbers 21 vs 4 - 9

Moses lifted the bronze snake, and those who looked at it lived.

Jesus Christ told you in His Gospel that in much the same way that Moses lifted the snake in the desert for the people of Israel so also He too would be raised as a beacon for those among them — the people of Israel — who wished to live after they had been condemned to die by God of Israel - Deuteronomy 28.

14 “Moses lifted up the snake in the desert. It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted too.
15 Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life.”
16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.
17 God sent his Son into the world. He did not send him to judge the world guilty but to save the world through him. - John 3 vs 14-16

God is responsible for condemning the Israelites to perish in the grave — lost. And He, God then also sent Jesus Christ to save the same people... Israel... after condemning them to die. Same as He did with the serpent back in the desert.

So, in essence, The World that Jesus Christ was sent to is the same world that consists of those condemned of Israel aka the Lost sheep of Israel. Just as Jesus Christ made clear. But here you are saying instead that Jesus Christ came to some other people than the one Jesus Himself said His Father sent Him to, How come?

otheloze:
I stumbled on Mathew 10:5,6 and was astonished, can any body give a view on this chapter
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus Christ was sent, not to the Jews alone but to the Lost sheep of Israel of whom the Jews where only a part.

FxMasterz:
■ Demons are speaking through you. Go for deliverance asap. Jesus loves you but He hates the demons that are controlling your life.

See Christianity's brand of holy spirit lies abeg!!!

In the Gospel, Jesus Christ made clear that His love belongs only to those who love Him — those who obey His teachings and commandments.

9 “I have loved you as the Father has loved me. Now continue in my love.
10 I have obeyed my Father’s commands, and he continues to love me. In the same way, if you obey my commands, I will continue to love you.
11 I have told you these things so that you can have the true happiness that I have. I want you to be completely happy. - John 15 vs 9 - 11

God's Love for men has always been conditioned on obedience to His teachings and commandments — God's Law. It was so in the Old and remains so even today.

13 The greatest love people can show is to die for their friends.
14 You are my friends if you do what I tell you to do.
15 I no longer call you servants, because servants don’t know what their master is doing. But now I call you friends because I have told you everything that my Father told me. - John 15 vs 13 - 15

To put it differently, Jesus Christ said those who do what He tells them to do — obey His teachings and commandments — are His friends; meaning those who are born-again and yet refuse to obey His teachings and commandments are His enemies.

But Christianity clearly rejects the Truth of God as it asserts instead its brand of lies using the name of Jesus Christ.

FxMasterz:
■ Get delivererance, after that, the Holy Ghost would teach you the scriptures.

Una deliverance scams abi na magic shows wey una dey use enslave the minds and lives of the gullible? No thanks! Una brand of holy ghost wey dey teach una to lie lie pass even those who admit they don't know God? HA HA ... the hilarity!

chakula:
■ The Bible insists that God alone is to be worshipped: “When the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites, he commanded them: ‘Do not worship any other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them. But the LORD, who brought you up out of Egypt with mighty power and outstretched arm, is the one you must worship. To him you shall bow down and to him offer sacrifices. You must always be careful to keep the decrees and ordinances, the laws and commands he wrote for you. Do not worship other gods. Do not forget the covenant I have made with you, and do not worship other gods. Rather, worship the LORD your God; it is he who will deliver you from the hand of all your enemies.’” (2 Kings 17:35-39).
■ Jesus, on whom be peace, believed in this, for he also stressed it in Luke 4:8. And Jesus too fell on his face and worshipped God (see Matthew 26:39). Paul knew that Jesus worshipped God (see Hebrews 5:7). Paul taught that Jesus will remain forever subservient to God (see 1 Corinthians 15:28).

The problem with many of your folks is that you use search filters to search through scripture and then you declare yourselves afterward knowledgable of the content of Scripture.

God of Israel informed His people that He was sending them a new agreement for them to worship through His many prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, etc. Please invest ample time into actually reading through the book for your own self before you come back out making baseless claims such as these.

chakula:
■ Many people use Paul’s writings as proof that Jesus is God. But this is not fair to Paul, because Paul clearly believed that Jesus is not God. In his first letter to Timothy, Paul wrote: “I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions, ” (1 Timothy 5:21).
It is clear from this that the title God applies not to Christ Jesus, but to someone else. In the following chapter, he again differentiates between God and Jesus when he says: “In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, ” (1 Timothy 6:13).
Paul then went on to speak of the second appearance of Jesus: “the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time.” (1 Timothy 6:14-15).
Again, the title God is deliberately turned away from Jesus. Incidentally, many people think that when Jesus is called “Lord” in the Bible that this means “God.” But in the Bible this title means master or teacher, and it can be used for addressing humans (see 1 Peter 3:6).
What is more important, however, is to notice what Paul said about God in the following passage, which clearly shows that Jesus is not God: “God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever.” (1 Timothy 6:15-16).

Indeed, Paul understood well that Jesus Christ was a separate submitted being to the God of Israel. He, Paul, was, after all, a former worshipper under the Old Law and knew quite well that Jesus Christ was not YHWH, the God of Israel, even though Jesus Christ had become God over him, Paul, by his submission and obedience to the New Agreement, Jesus Christ

Dpharisee:
When my wife tried to mistreat the child staying with us (I don't call her maid) I made it clear it would never happen under my roof, she wakes up and goes to bed when kids her age normally does and not earlier or later and eats whatever my kids eat and when we go out for outings no one should know she is not our child by looking different.
I maintained my strict instructions and as always expected she blackmailed me that I was molesting the girl and that was why I was treating her special. It got to a point she accused the girl of being possessed as told by a 'Man of God', I told my wife that if she is possessed it means that all of us in the house are possessed because we all drink from the same cups and her response was that I don't know anything about 'Spiritual matters'.

You try! If say na me, the fact that I am married to someone who would even conceive such evil against a child no go fit sit well with me at all. I go don waka out of that marriage from the first moment of discovery.... the END! I would do it to equally teach my own kids that I love them but I also love all other children out there as well.

Joagbaje:
There is a difference between the rapture of the church and the second coming of christ. They have 7 years in between.

This claim of yours is bogus!

OP, you need to stop smoking whatever brand of religious weed you have been smoking abeg!

z11111:
Dear Admin, My wedding is less than a week away but I am far from being very happy at all. I made a serious mistake and I am getting married to someone I do not love to pay for that mistake.

A mistake? Your dick mistakenly fell into her vagina and got her pregnant? LOL....

You traded your happiness for chains the moment you decide to satisfy your urge so better marry her according to traditional obligation and sort your life from that point.

SakuraSimiola:
Panel discuss the effect Christianity has had on Igbo culture.

Interesting that the panel did not equally attempt to debate the usefulness and effectiveness of many of Igbo cultural traditions as well particularly those that concern the place of women and children in the society. Many of those have equally caused tremendous damage even as other religions have.

FxMasterz:
■ The difference here is that you're not doing anything which is of God. I'm not insulting you. I'm really telling you you're demon possessed and need deliverance. The Pharisees were merely insulting Jesus. But here, I'm giving you my honest recommendations.

You who worship men as gods over you would know the difference between that which is of the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ (who was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel) from that which is not? HA HA... I Laugh!

For those not aware, Jesus Christ in John 8 vs 31 - 44 proclaimed that those among the Lost sheep of Israel who reject God are children of the devil whereas those of them who continously accept and obey His teachings and commandments will be transformed to become Children of God. These children of the devil are the same angels of Satan--- goats --- whom Jesus Christ mentioned would have their end in Eternal Damnation--- Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46.

Paul proclaimed that Jesus Christ was His master and given that the world His professed master sent servants out into was the world that comprised of the Lost sheep of Israel. What purpose would Paul have had to declare an idea different from that stated by his very master? Was Paul a deceiver or a wolf in sheep's clothing?

FxMasterz:
■ I have told you that you're demon possessed. Go for deliverance asap.

I am immediately reminded of how even the Pharisees concluded that Jesus Christ was possessed by Demons mainly because He did that which was of God.

ProudNigerian01:
■ The world is full of lies, you know the truth and how best to live and show that truth but you will do nothing to change the narrative or expose the truth to many (besides a select few on nairaland) .
■ Rather, you are comfortable intruding every religious thread to spread your truth and point out the
errors of others. You can and should do more than condemning others. It's been interesting having a discourse with you. God bless.

1. God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ, said the best way to live is to exist in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments alike-- God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God. But clearly you don't agree with Him and would rather I step beyond God's Bounds ---- the Truth of God --- to deal instead with that which has nothing to do with the Truth.

2. Pointing out the antichrist lies of men which has nothing to do with the Truth of God is part of my obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. You don't like it...it's OK.

ProudNigerian01:
■ If all the men of God in Nigeria say they do not belong to any religion but have a mandate to obey their master, will that mean they are no longer liars?

Nope! Rather, your mogs and pastors claim they serve the God of Israel through His Son, Jesus Christ, yet their every action speaks otherwise. Jesus Christ said that by their fruits you shall know those who belong to Him and those who do not. Jesus Christ gave His followers about 100 laws and teachings to live by. Your gods of men there blatantly violate those laws and teachings of Jesus Christ with almost every word they speak and every action they take using the name of Jesus Christ. That is what makes them liars!

Roger3D:
Did your criminal daddy GO really drink tea with God?

The man is a con artist and nothing more.

bsalawu:
Happy Birthday Daddy. May God keep you more in Jesus Name. Amen.

Which Jesus? Adeboye's god is not Oyedepo's god is not Oyakilome's god is not Okotie's god is not MFM's god is not Damina's god is not Mbaka's god is not Jerry Eze's god is not .... and all of these are far removed from the God of Israel and Jesus Christ, His Son, who said He was sent ONLY to the Lost Sheep of Israel. So, which God?

With Christianity alone backing over 47,000 sects/denominations, all of them worshipping a different deity— that's approximately 47,000 different idols—, you would need to be specific when speaking of a deity.

iramure:
he is actually ensuring that church goers reason with their anus to keep them permanently under religious bondage. By this people will continue believing in fairytales and keep donating to his pocket

Isn't that pretty much same as what much of the local traditions had people doing before his lot came into up the scam? So what aspect of that has anything to do with colonial masters?

ProudNigerian01:
■ You said all men of God and politicians are liars, does that include you as a man of your God?

I am not of any religion neither am I a man of God. I am simply a servant with a mandate to obey my master.

Kingzjayzee:
if u ask me, na who I go ask?

So, you lied?

ProudNigerian01:
■ So it suits you to do nothing? If people like being lied to so there is no point trying to tell them the truth? So no need to correct or stop the lie?
■ For a while you have made it a duty to comment on religious threads, supposedly correcting errors. Why have you been doing that? As apparently you have no business or interest in changing the narrative on people being told the truth.

1. People will always seek out what they truly want and desire. That the majority desire lies does not mean there are not a few who seek the Truth and nothing but.

2. I do it because I hate the lies spewed in the name of the God of Israel and His Son, Jesus Christ. I am not here to change the world but rather to do as my God commands me to do.

Ebios:
Meaning? That's a wrong analogy because the situation on ground is different from your anology. We are talking about pastors and members Pastors are not CEOs but humans representing God but they are not God. God is the CEO of the churchtongue

Look, open your eyes to see what is right in front of you as it is. Humans representing God? Are you sure you are OK upstairs? How can a perfect God have fallible humans representing Him? Your problem is you wish to usurp the man's seat in his own private business and are desperately using the mention of God to play your scam. Pastors and mogs are conmen — businessmen who use the name of God to lie to people up and down. You seem to think you can scam a pastor with your brand of scam. E no dey work!

Dbestbrest:
Happy birthday Daddy Adeboye. May the Lord continue to keep you for His good works He's doing through you. He will give you peace of mind and long life so that we can continue to celebrate you in the land of the living. You have impacted so many lives with the word of God and we are not ashamed to be identified with Jesus Christ. Happy birthday Daddy G.O

Which God? Adeboye's god is not Oyedepo's god is not Oyakilome's god is not Okotie's god is not MFM's god is not Damina's god is not Mbaka's god is not Jerry Eze's god is not .... and all of these are far removed from the God of Israel and Jesus Christ, His Son, who said He was sent ONLY to the Lost Sheep of Israel. So, which God?

With Christianity alone backing over 47,000 sects/denominations, all of them worshipping a different deity— that's approximately 47,000 different idols—, you would need to be specific when speaking of a deity.