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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:42pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
We should not select based on white man. Select based on tactical Superiority.

Kashimawo Laloko complained about this thing.

They employ men they are better than and shower them with money and comfort.

This man can't even polish Musa Abdullahi books.

Even Bonfere knows the work Miss Abdullahi did in Atlanta. But they don't get celebrated.
Hmmm coach late Musa Abdullahi was my area brother and my YSFON coach when I was growing up....oh my God Egbon Musa was a very good coach.

Joe the issue here is this do we really have the money to employ a good tactician not just anyhow coach.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:36pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Rhor is tactically inept and the team has gone no where in five years.

If that is okay by you, it is your choice. To me it is crazy leaving put local tactician to employ tactically inferior coaches that will not improve the team.
I got your point tactically Rohr is inept but tactically sound local coaches are perceived as set of corrupt people.

Crossroads bro.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:32pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
If Rhor could do what Keshi did for us, you guys will be celebrating Rhor like the best coach since Mario Zagallo.

Rhor can't even do multiple tasks. Like he can't even coach CHAN team. Yet you guys find it easy to abuse an achiever like Keshi and celebrate Rhor.

If Amunike and co did not raise Osimhen and Nacho and they fought their way in their clubs, Rhor would still be begging Tammy Abraham.
Yes Keshi is better than Rohr for sure and the record are there to see,until Rohr prove me wrong with Afcon and solid WC performance.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:27pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
What did Rhor do to prove to you?
Joe do we really believe in our local coaches?NO meaning Amuneke just need to work hard to get eagles job.

Yes Rohr proved nothing even I don't know him until he got eagles job but remember he is a white man so it was easy for him to get the job.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:20pm On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:
There was no achievement there Egbon

He went coached a club in Egypt afterwards with nothing to show sure he was sacked too
AndSunGorilla said taking Tanzania to Afcon since 1980 should be seeing as achievement just like the way we celebrate Rohr for taking us back to Afcon after missing out in two editions.

Emma Amuneke just need to get a job and prove to us that he can do it.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:10pm On Oct 15, 2021
AndSunGorilla:
I disagree with you Egbon. He succeeded wonderfully with Tanzania, came out smelling like Roses. Got them into the afcon since 1980 I think, I won't be shocked if it takes them another 30 years to make AFCON. At d afcon itself, were u expecting Tanzania to win the competition?
Okay but why Amuneke unemployed since that achievement cos I remember Keshi did wonder with poor Togo.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:02pm On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:
Doc. huh

Same amuneke that coached Tanzania where they concede goals with baskets....his goal during that afcon was to outscore u
Nigeria local coaches should go out like Keshi did with Mali and,Togo before talking about their chances with eagles.

Emma Amuneke failed woefully with Tanzania and coaching eagles is still a milestone for him.

It just a pity Rohr is finding it difficult to turn Nigeria team to a classic team.
Car Talk › Re: Stolen Toyota Camry In Port Harcourt (Pictures) by Kog45(m): 10:30pm On Oct 15, 2021
I tire for Toyota and Honda o cos Toyota key dey start Honda vice versa.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:02pm On Oct 15, 2021
fabyom:
Siasia is corrupt! He might be good tactically but like Keshi his call-ups were suspicious!
Also, he made us lose the 2008 Olympic final by starting his boy Isaac Promise ahead of Anichebe against Argentina. The former went on to miss an open goal!
However, I might agree that we give Amunike a chance but my fear is that he might not have the balls to drop his boys if they underperform as Rohr did to Kelechi. I don't see any special stuff Rohr is doing to warrant $30k per month!
Oh you forgot that late Isaac Promise was even the captain and the same guy led the team to the final...did you really gave Siasia 2008 Olympic team a chance.

Bonfrere Jo won Olympic gold with real Super eagles players but Siasia won silver with entirely young ones but here you are criticizing him for not starting very average Anichebe.

The same Siasia went to Rio with no support from NFF and still won bronze.

Pls make we dey praise our own for once.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:58pm On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:
Yes sure
The difference was that westerwolf does his with sense but my Nigerian brothers lost their senses to greed and it back fired
Shady deals with sense abi.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
humility33:
Sure there will be revelations keshi own was too obvious...at least for now we can still at least pick up to 20 players from the listthey truly deserve call ups unlike the time of Keshi

Keshi really learnt the trade of marketing players from the dutch man...... and oliseh try do same by drafting ex players from his brother Ebiede academy
Thank you for saying that they learnt it from white man.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:51pm On Oct 15, 2021
jihday:
Onuachu scored in a friendly against Egypt few weeks before the tournament plus his club form was decent it would have been unfair to drop him for Kelechi
James Obiorah came in for a friendly and had a good game even scored a goal and Ongbinde dropped Wilson Oruma but that decision na corruption cos is a local coach but if na white man decision James dey form.

Hope Jihday you got my point.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:45pm On Oct 15, 2021
Danielnino00:
But Rohr has been calling up Musa and Shehu despite the obvious fact that their time in the NT is up..
You talk say na Sokoto connection..

Do you seriously want to tell me that Keshi was acting on his own with the dubious call ups that went on under him??
Some don't know that Nigeria national team call up no be here o.

This is a fact Olishe made Musa eagles captain just to secure his job.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:41pm On Oct 15, 2021
12large1:
The first time that chidera ejuke played for Nigeria was when I noticed that he is a baller. Another baller is Frank Onyeka! Sometimes, you just need to watch a player once and make your judgement. Nigeria squad can actually be Good if our coach can select his best players and the right formation. When Ndidi transfer to a big club, onyeka could even be his replacement at Leicester
Thank you Large....watching Ejuke for just five minutes gave me joy.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:41pm On Oct 15, 2021
jihday:
even for NT Nacho’s form had seriously dipped , didn’t score in about a year. I bet you Westerhof would have dropped him quickly
Pls compare Siasia form with Richard Owubokiri and Mike Obiku forms should tell you that Westerhof will never dropped Iheanacho for Onuachu.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:37pm On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:
Dont mind some of my brothers here who wanna turn a blind eye
After the Big Boss won the Nations cup he began to feel himself and believe he can turn any mediocre player to great okocha or kanu.... he first tried this with Confederations cup and it backfired but still he continued and cost us afcon qualification

Corruption of the late coach was so mind blowing and I perceive he learnt it from westerwolf system of team management no wonder the dutch who pose as agent and coach kept sticking around hoping he gets the super eagles job again prior old age come calling
Oga humility thank you for saying Keshi might have learnt those tricks from foreign man(Westerhof).

I hope not to hear some revelations when Rohr must have left eagles as manager..bro hope you know that some players and Rohr were being manage by the same agency.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:32pm On Oct 15, 2021
chrisooblog:
Egbon Westerhof also used to drop squad players when needs demanded. Owobokiri that was killing it in Portugal and even scored against South Africa during the 1994 WC qualifier was barely called again but Efan Ekoku that didn't do anything in the SE he took straight to WC. Ugbade that was dropped for Emenalo nko? Clemens too dropped a few notable players during his time but I give it to him he knew how to strike a balance and motivate his players.

Keshi in a bid to mold his own team I think picked players based mostly on how loyal they were to him instead of first using ability/talent as a bench mark. Every good coach has an ego but you shouldn't let it blind you from working with the best talents just because they won't bow to you.
Good for mentioning Ugbade case.It was painful cos we all thought Nduka would be the first Nigerian to play all FIFA World Cup.

I asked Westerhof after some years and he said he wasn't satisfied with Ugbade.He need solid back up for Ben Iroha.Some one recommended Emenalo to him and first training he was better than Ugbade and he gambled with it.Remember Iroha got injured against Bulgaria and Emenalo stood in throughout our other matches.

I love Richard Owubokiri so much but Clemens made it cleared to me that Ricky was not his type of striker cos Owubokiri needs delivery from others to perform and his decision on Efan Ekoku was simple he said Efan was very average but still press like Yekini.

Westerhof decision on Rufai was simple he said he didn't believe in Rufai until goalkeeper trainer told him that Rufai is the best amongs keepers in camp.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:19pm On Oct 15, 2021
Karlovych:
Don't forget Uche Nwofor who played only 3 matches in the entire season for Henreveen in the Netherlands made the WC squad
Pls how many matches has Valentine Ozomwafor played this season and even last season.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:12pm On Oct 15, 2021
TheSuperNerd:
Osimhen's and Naija Players Transfermrkt Value Updates

*Victor Osimhen's Value rises by 10M euros. Now Top 7 in the World for Strikers/CFs only.
*Osimhen and Ndidi joint most valuable Naija stars today
*Osimhen is second most valuable Striker in Italy according to Transfermrkt
*Osimhen's Strong on-field performances having top effect on his ever rising Market Value



Note: Transfermrkt Values are renowned and well followed by Market experts but Neapolitan market transfer sources already place Osimhen's Market Value close to 120Million euros especially in the eyes of ADL.

Remember I once asked which African Striker apart from Osimhen is going to experience astronomical Market Value increase before the year ends and towards the end of the 21/22 season. It is just 7 matchdays in, and we are already having our answer. Watch out for more Value rise for the Monster Machine. cool


Others:

▶️Sadiq Umar's Transfermrkt Value rises from 15M euros to 18M euros.

▶️Paul Onuachu's Transfermrkt Value rises from 20M euros to 22M euros.

▶️Frank Onyeka's Transfermrkt Value rises from 6M euros to 9M euros.

▶️Taiwo Awoniyi's Transfermrkt Value rises from 5M euros to 8M euros.

▶️Moses Simon's Transfermrkt Value rises from 7M euros to 9M euros.

▶️Terem Moffi's Transfermrkt Value rises from 10M euros to 12M euros (#1 most valuable at Lorient).





Cc Andrewbaba44, Osimhen now sits above or joint now with Gabby J. Very soon, him go fly past am. You remember what we said about this few weeks back when you showed surprise at the previous Value ratings. wink
Nice one Doctor
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:06pm On Oct 15, 2021
elyte89:
It wasn't poor sir..in fact majority were in support of DT decision due to his club form..we all know prior to nations cup,nacho wasn't playing regularly coupled with his poor goal record for d national team..I think dis is where foreign coaches edges our own...deir selection is still 70percent based on club performance unlike ours,na egunje (but tactically so far, our coaches too can withstand d white coaches employed here cool
I got your point and mind you i rate foreign coaches ahead of our own but talking shit of our own just damn too much here.

Iheanacho was dropped for poor goal scoring with national team and Onuachu was banging goals for national team then abi?

My man I will never dropped Iheanacho with suoerb goals ratio with eagles then for Onuachu and tell me what Onuachu played at afcon.

Why Rohr not gamble with Iheanacho.This was one of the decisions that make me zero my mind on Rohr.

Westerhof gambled with Amuneke against Zambia afcon 94 final and it paid off

Westerhof gamble with Rufai at Afcon 94

Bonfrere Jo gamble with Tijani against South Africa Afcon 2000 semis.

Bonfrere Jo took unfit Amuneke to Atlanta 96 cos he knew what he can do and what happened in the final he scored the winning goal.

i rate Iheanacho higly when it comes to goal conversion.Iheanacho will never missed those Osimehn chances against CAR in Yaounde.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:51am On Oct 15, 2021
chrisooblog:
Iheanacho's form during that period was seriously poor so it wasn't an obviously bad decision to drop him for Onuachu who was decent att the time
Bro this is more reason I respect Westerhof...Clemens will never dropped Iheanacho for Onuachu at that period.

My man Westerhof let me realized that there are national team player and he know how to psych them up even if they are not playing regularly for their clubs.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:26am On Oct 15, 2021
chrisooblog:
Ideye wasn't really one of the main men in the national team then. Plus his club form wasn't exactly earth shattering during that period. Ighalo was coming up during that time so Ideye making way wasn't really controversial if you ask me.
During Keshi period his Club form too dropped after afcon though I would have taken him over Uchebo but remember Rohr dropped Iheanacho and took Onuachu to Afcon which till today was a poor decision to me.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:24am On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Who dropped him after the Zambia game ?
Oh sorry he was dropped after Algeria match by Rohr.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:22am On Oct 15, 2021
charlesemeka85:
God bless you bro. Tony Harris and keshi made a lot of money from players just to ship them abroad and get caps in the national team

Imagine then Gabriel Reuben was a perennial bench warmer at Scottish club kilmannock but constantly got invited to the national team?

Prior to the 2014 World Cup Reuben was almost 6 months out injured and didn’t feature for his Scottish side let alone make the bench to their games but made our World Cup squad. Even then kilmannock head coach once stated that he wonder how Reuben who finds it difficult to break in to his team gets called up regularly by an African footballing power house like Nigeria

How did Uchebo and amoebi make the World Cup team at the expense of an inform ikechukwu Uche and obafemi martins then?

How did uzoenyi make our World Cup team at the expense of red hot standard liege imoh ezekiel who with bashuayi were the hottest young strikers in the Belgian league then and finished with double figures in the same league uchebo finished with 4 abi 6 goals that season with relegation battlers then cercle Brugge?

Even an inform Abdul ajagun then with panathiniakos never got a chance
In a nutshell,highly corrupted Keshi coached Mali,Togo and Nigeria with success,qualified Nigeria and small Togo for WC.Thief Keshi won Afcon....ole keshi took Nigeria to second round of WC.

I hope Rohr surpass this feat.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:11am On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:
I still wonder by brown ideye could not make it to the 2014 FIFA World Cup
Andrew but you are not surprised how the same Brown Ideye was dropped from eagles after good match against Zambia.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:07am On Oct 15, 2021
charlesemeka85:
sarki is not a mad man to make such claims and with the shady practice then in the national team I strongly believe his claim 100%
Oh Sarki is not a mad mna for making such claims and funny enough you believe him 100%.

Case close Oga Charles.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:05am On Oct 15, 2021
chrisooblog:
Them Tony Harris people. Stories about how Gabriel Reuben made the 2014 WC squad are still fresh in my memory.
Yeah agents everywhere even in present SE.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:27am On Oct 15, 2021
charlesemeka85:
it was obvious to all super eagles fans then that the coaching crew then fielded players who gave them egunje

We all knew this then
Oga Charles can you name one with evidence and I will shut up.

Mind you I prefer foreign coach o but castigating our own anyhow without proper evidence no for me Oga Charles.

Hope you remember recently Bonfrere Jo allegations against Westerhof.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:16am On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:
He would have got the call up had it been he pays with the coach we had then anything was possible
Emmanuel Sarki that Mikel housed for years in London,with Mikel relationship with Keshi he doesn't need to pay anyone for invitation.

If I tell you how James Obiorah,Vincent Enyeama and Seyi Olofinjana got their eagles invitations you will be surprised cos these are good friends of mine....a lot accused Onigbinde of bribery but James didn't pay a dime before making 2002 WC ditto to Enyeama.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:56am On Oct 15, 2021
humility33:
Bro keshi tried or he was after his pocket

Just read from Sarrki that he was asked to pay 5k dollars to play for Nigeria reason why he choose play for Haiti

Andy the corruption amongst our indigenous coaches and FA is just too worrisome Thats why me dont want any of them to take over from Rohr

Only God knows how much that Switzerland wondering boy Stephen Okoh paid to get call ups from Swiss second division
Oga humility why are you always castigating indigenous coaches.

Bro if I dig into shady deals of foreign coaches and agents you go dey agape o.

My man I handled Westerhoff utilities bills when he was in Nigeria and I want to tell you handling Nigeria national team is a very difficult job.Pressures from everywhere.

Oh you think Musa and Shehu are getting call up just on merit abi...if it is an indigenous coach inviting the duo I know a lot must have said dollars don pass.....

OK Oga humility say something on Chiiedebere Nwakili invitation? even Maduka Okoye a bundesliga div 3 player?though is our number 1 now...hope you remember the same Keshi that invited Okoh a swiss div 2 was the same that invited Leon Balogun a div 2 player then...

Bro pls easy on our local coaches o and even our NPFL players...you run this people down like kilode....

My Oga humility abi you no be naija ni.

I want to tell you that Willy Bazuaye remain most uncorrupted ever Nigeria national team coach.This is a man that turned blind eyes to his talented son Baldwin Bazuaye.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:48pm On Oct 14, 2021
wayodude:
He did say that, I was surprised too! I always thought his first game was against Cameroun away. I thought Paul Hamilton was the coach in the Angola game. I was 10 yrs old then so maybe I didnt know as much as I thought.
Paul Hamilton was in charge against Angola
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:34pm On Oct 14, 2021
AndSunGorilla:
I think you are right, meanwhile who was the coach when we drew 2-2 in Angola?
Paul Halmiton was in charge and remember we came from two goals down to level up with goals from Ademola Adeshina and late screamer from Stephen Keshi.

Nigeria had a good national team build up after we failed to qualify for Egypt 86 by losing to Zambia.Coach Chris Udemuze was sacked after Zambia match and Halmiton was named as his successor temporarily based on his achievement with 1985 U 20 team and this gave opportunity for some 1985 U 20 players like Samson Siasia,Monday Odiaka,Andrew Uwe who was named captain of new Super eagles and surprisingly he captained eagles when senior player like Keshi returned back to the team after he was banned from eagles for reporting late to camp by Anthony Ikhazobo.

NFA later appointed a German Manfred Hoener as eagles coach.Hoener took us to maroc 88,after he left,Paul Hamilton took over and build a very strong team that are ready for qualifications to Italian 90.He did well but surprisingly NFA was looking for foreign coach to take over,which they later did with Clemens Westerhoff though it later paid off cos Westerhoff was able to build a solid team from Algiers 90,Senegal 92,Tunisia 94 and later US 94 and the team remain the best till today.

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