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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:37am On Feb 18, 2018
asha80:
.....if fact those that grew up in owerri in the early 90s can tell you why kanu nwankwo rose to prominence and a more skillful mate ekenna nnado did not
God bless you for this part.

The best couldn't make it cos they are not discipline,pls what's keeping Mikel Obi going on despite the cash and fame,discipline.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:43am On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
Your question has nothing to do with what I have been typing. Stay within the context of my post if we're discussing my post.

If oliseh was so bad as they have painted it, how then did he set all the records? With which players and staff? Shouldn't all of them be against him or at least most?

Make we reason am na.

Some poeple already have a pre-assumed mindset of Oliseh so anything that supports this, they lash on.

When things was rosy and he was enjoying good performance, some here we're putting up the 'but' in their statements waiting for one slip so they can say "I told you".


Weird set of Nigerians.
Sir,let me end it here
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:33am On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
I read it and it's still the same "blank or general statement" things.

Meaning he got sacked because he dared to behave like how successful coaches behave at his own level?

If you check those against him at the club, you won't be surprised to find out that they are the unchangeable lots who are not ready to have anyone come change things without them.
Sir you haven't answer my question
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:32am On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
Who are the players he "disrespected" at fortuna, and also those staff and workers?

It's easy to paint people bad when they are to be thrown away.

I have at least read how he demoted some of their old players there who happened to be blocking the progress of the club and we all saw the effect in the club's performance

Some people are known to be against change and when they encounter people who come with drastic one, they fight tooth and nails against it.

Oliseh is a change enthusiast which happens to be very vocal, opinionated and blunt. These characteristics aren't what people are ready to face. People with these traits are hated almost by everyone who aren't in line with change or such character traits.


BTW, Ferguson was foul mouthed as a coach and even dealt with some known players.

Same with Mourinho
Same with Simione.
Roy keane

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/879086-the-20-angriest-coaches-in-sports
Same with Pep but he's very discreet with his own ways.

We have alot of coaches with these traits, difference is that they are already big so people don't count these traits as biggie again.

Maradona isn't left out, same with Gatuso.

List goes on.
Sir,pls named a coach sack with attitude issue not poor results then we end this and move on.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
somehow:
Which still raises my question: what is that bad attitude that "only" Oliseh has that other coaches don't have?

Is it that a new coach isn't suppose to have it even if it's in alot of successful coaches?
Oh what a question,meaning you did not read Fortuna Sittard press release on his suspension or what went wrong between him and the club.

Pls can you name a coach sack due to bad attitude and not poor results then we continue.....
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
Loogan:
Lol bro take it easy on him now, he could be your younger brother you know. Guys making mistakes at his age is not uncommon, but I'm not sparing him any criticism his unprofessionalism is disappointing.
I never said he was better than ighalo I only said he was stronger!
My man Isaac Success is like a son to me not even brother and on a good day i supposed keep mute on his issue or be defending him cos i have strong relationship with him right from U 17 in UAE but sometimes we need to leave friendship aside and talks football.

I remember i had a dispute on his scoring ratio with Ighalo and Iheanacho cos the duo are better and told the moniker forget love for footballer and be objective.

Right now Success has missed it and it w take a very discipline Success to come out of it and see football as a serious business,no one is castigating him but want the best for him and only way to say it is to remain balance on the issue.

I remember how Emma Babayaro was bashing Celestine during one of his poor outing for Newcastle live on TV as a pundit,so sometimes when footballers are going astray,the only way to correct them is saying it out not minding what will comes out of it.

I have a brother who went to Italy with Obafemi Martins through Churchill Olishe,better than Obafemi but you know what attitude issue failed him,full of regret as a footballer,who know him,little dollars beclouded him,women and partying failed him now in United States having normal life with no much money again.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:28am On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
Define bad that's only found in Oliseh and no one else.

Define the bad that only Oliseh needs to be "rebuked" on even when ohers have it and are never rebuked like the way some do when it comes to Oliseh.
On ghost mode reading your good discussion with Lucque and junnyake.

Pls think of this,one thing is cleared coaches get sack due to poor results but Olishe was sacked due to poor attitude.

What do you have to say on above paragraph.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
Loogan:
He's one of those who have been in camp, played and rohr looks like he likes the boy, won't be so quick to rule him out just yet.
But if he does lose weight and play and impress! I don't see which other power playing skilfull striker we have in the SE! This guy is probably stronger than ighalo bro, this guy came in about 20mins and bambozed senegals defense. Boy wey him and bailey leg jam bailey "iron man" fall for ground!
He's not called the beast for nothing.
Bro pls let's talk football the way it's cos i don't know why we always saying Rohr love some or are we saying Rohr hate some.

Pls i want to tell you that as it now we have good players who are better than Isaac Success or do you think this present Eagles na moimoi,it will take a very serious footballer to make the team not Sucesss types who love partying,running around prostitutes.

Ighalo and Success? this arguments came up sometimes ago and after thorough research i realized a lot still rate Success with U 17 glory.

Success talent not in doubt just like Etim Esin then who was even far better but what come out of Etim's career was a disaster,so he should learn from example and make life meaningful for himself not even us cos time is everything,better footballers are springing up everyday.

My man Ighalo is better than Success, goal scoring,pace and what they bring to the team generally though Success is very skillful and on the ball damn cool.

Modified... Strongest doesn't do it,hope you know Akinfewa one of the strongest footballer in the world and mind you will all rate Success based on his talent not on his power.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
Humility017:
I tell you...from his act with those english runs gurls...that was exposed I seriously fear for him...he is someone I really don't want in Russia anymore because I fear he gonna be a bad influence on the rest players...giving to wild party and drinking...

the team being filled wit young players need to stay focused and necessary steps need to be taken to aviod distractions...

just take a look at ideye, sadiq umar, oshimen see how ambitous this kids are...
the desire to make the world cup squad is really driving them to go extra mile...
Pls why are we disturbing ourselves with Success.A real student of Nigeria football history would never be bothered cos we have seen enough of them better than Isaac Success in all ramifications but with same attitudes.

Pls do you know Tarilla Okorowanta,Etim Esin,Ochucko Otis,Dondo Ava,Duke UDI,Emma Ebiede,these are extremely talented footballers who are supposed to make it in the world of football but indiscipline ruined them,so Success would not be exceptional unless he changed his attitude.

Some months ago i was telling anyone who care to listen that Success is not a player for this WC,may be 2022 if he can changed but sentiments beclouded some and said am talking trash but good even Success people which i belonged are beginning to see it now.

Sir Komkne always saying it that Success is a failure,pls check Iheanacho now but a lot disagreed citing that he is extremely talented forgetting football is always about discipline not even talent.

Success is someone I know very well right from U 17 in UAE,very bozzling guy who love partying a lot,he shiuld just take it cool and learn from extremely talented players likes Eric Cantona,David Ginola,Paul Gascoigne and Etim Esin,what was the end result.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:02pm On Feb 16, 2018
soetanoreoluwa:
You never stated the cup.
Sammy doing wellhuh
Yes Sammy is doing it week in week out in England division one though not able to leave up to expectations cos by now he should be cutting it in EPL but that's football.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
soetanoreoluwa:
You never stated the cup.
Sammy doing wellhuh
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:45pm On Feb 16, 2018
soetanoreoluwa:
But sani later turned to highest goals scorer.. Where is sani Now?

Sammy ameobi is not doing well either
Sammy is doing well in championship but Sani I cannot say
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:15pm On Feb 16, 2018
daveP:
Not atall. I understood you. I guess the absence of the smiley made it look like I was offended. All cool.
OK my man respect
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:14pm On Feb 16, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Okay Sir.. no wahala... but I recall I was the first one who pointed out that the visit possibly had a timeline.
OK TheSuperNerd 1st thegoodjoe 2nd,i now remember two of you said it but is tbaba1234 an investigative sports journalist cos the guy source of info na first class o
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:52am On Feb 16, 2018
tbaba1234:
It appears Maduka Okoye has confirmed his invitation for March Friendlies.
Darlington Omodiagbe is working the man behind our Germany FBs,strongman behind Victor Osimhen and good representative of Rohr in Germany.

Hope he can convince Uduokhai,already had talk with Akpoguma and willing to convince Uduokhai and Torunarigha.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
daveP:
Nawa o. Someone cannot speak in English again ni. Did I write "overhype" or what?
I thought the word HYPE mean something being done excessively,so if you believe i got you wrong,am really sorry.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
TheSuperNerd:
It would be nice to see him even if it is just for the feel of being with the team but I doubt he would be tested in these friendlies because these friendlies will also serve as our final real match action preps for the goalies Rohr will wanna make final decisions on.

But I won't mind being stunned with another twist from Rohr's mind...

We are here probably playing checkers with who Rohr may settle for in the Goalie position while Rohr is busy playing Chess... loolll... Really hard to tell now that Rohr still mentions an Enyeama and Akpeyi... I just tire honestly. Let the friendlies come already.
Enyeama and Akpeyi,don't you think elders council under the leadership of Chief icon4s are winning.

Truly tire for Rohr but i think march friendlies should tell us where we are going regards goalkeepers but am seeing Uzoho between the sticks against Poland and a convincing performance meaning number one to beat.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
TheSuperNerd:
Hmmm... probably indeed Sire... If I also go strongly by CSN's reports via contacts with the Super Eagles media officer, Toyin Ibitoye. wink Young Okoye seems not to be in the picture for the WC.
Rohr kai I tire o but mentioning the likes of Enyeama, Ezenwa, Uzoho, Alampasu and Akpeyi doesn't mean Maduka is not in the picture but i believe it will take a lion heart coach to take him to WC cos he is for the future.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
TheSuperNerd:
Rohr Keeps World Cup Slots Open For Enyeama, Akpeyi; Monitors Uzoho
By David Meshioye

https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/IMG_20180128_000446-600x400.jpg

Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr has stated that the goalkeeping slots in the World Cup squad are still up for grabs contrary to rumours doing the rounds that he may have made up his mind on the three goalkeepers for Russia 2018, Completesportsnigeria.com reports.
In a chat with Completesportsnigeria.com on Thursday, Super Eagles media officer Toyin Ibitoye disclosed that the former Gabon manager is leaving his options open in the goalkeeping areas of the team, adding that the likes of Vincent Enyeama, Francis Uzoho, Daniel Akpeyi, Dele Alampasu and Ikechukwu Ezenwa will have to fight for the three slots.

Enyeama, who is retired from international football, only recently recovered from a long-term injury and has been inactive for several months, while Akpeyi has not been impressive in his recent Super Eagles outings. Youngster Uzoho is no longer a part of the Deportivo La Coruna first-team squad despite impressing while standing in for injured senior keepers in LaLiga games.

“I can confidently tell you that Rohr has not made up his mind on his best three goalkeepers that will be going to the World Cup. He said Enyeama, Ezenwa, Uzoho and of course Akpeyi will have a chance to get the three slots allotted to the goalkeepers,” Ibitoye told CSN.

“He said he is leaving his options open in a bid to get the best from the goalkeepers. That is where the international friendly matches come in; Rohr will be looking at the players closely and those matches will play a huge role in determining who goes to the World Cup.”

Meanwhile, Ibitoye revealed further that Rohr is eagerly looking forward to goalkeeper trainer Enrico Pionetti’s report on his visit to Deportivo La Coruna goalkeeper, Francis Uzoho. The backroom staff is expected to brainstorm on Pionetti’s report bef ore Nigeria’s friendly match against Poland.


Source: https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/rohr-keeps-keeps-world-cup-slots-open-enyeama-akpeyi-monitors-uzoho/


Cc: Elder Sir Kog45.... Check bolded italicised.... I told you Sir Tbaba1234's reports were true. wink


Russia 2018 WC Countdown: 118 days 15 hrs 57 mins to go
No o i never doubt tbaba1234 reports here cos I do ask him for updates but I think visit is different from attached.

Thegoodjoe was able to.pointed this out during our discussion that probably a visit to have a tete talk with the keeper on his situation at Deportivo

I respect tbaba1234 reports here and never doubt it cos his contributions are top notch.
Sports › Re: The Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: Poland 2019 FIFA U-20 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:38am On Feb 16, 2018
Icon4s:
Nobody is saying we should just flood the team with foreign based players. As many foreign based players as we can get that are good enough to make the team let us get them.
And leave the financial side for the NFF to handle.
icon4s i think you know NFF more based on your experience,so you think NFF is financially buoyant to do this,i think SerVik is right cos NFF i know very well would not waste much money inviting professionals for U 20 team.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:47pm On Feb 15, 2018
comodo:
Mearnt all eyes will not be on him, unlike Salah & Mane that will recieve all manner of flying tackles etc
OK
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:36pm On Feb 15, 2018
daveP:
He is slowly becoming like our most important player. like the way the media are not hyping him as Mane and Salah. These two go hearam for WC.
My man are you saying Salah is hype.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:55pm On Feb 15, 2018
chrisooblog:
bros Na so all of dem dey talk Na who no wan go world cup but on a serious note I think you're being too paranoid about this austin former goalkeeper issue from the little information I know ejide is not an alloy agu boy and besides even though nothing was proven the match fixing matter is still fresh in the memory
Pls who is Alloy Agu boy.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:40pm On Feb 15, 2018
Icon4s:
I don't see him as one for the WC either, but I think he still deserves a place in the squad in one of our friendlies or the 35 man list.

Talking about Sadiq Umar benching Ajayi. That was quite some time ago. How has Sadiq's game progressed since then?

After all Manu Garba dropped Etebor and Ajayi from his 2015 U20 squad. Today where are the likes of Bulbwa, Mathew, Awoniyi and Sokari who made the team. Compare Sokari with Etebor who are like a like for like to each other

Several factors influence players selection. So because Sadiq benched Ajayi at Rio and Sadiq is not being considered yet doesn't make Ajayi not good enough for a consideration.
I think forgiveness has given me vivid reply on this and your first paragraph has settled and it all.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:25pm On Feb 15, 2018
tbaba1234:
I never accused the Manu of taking bribe

But one thing is certain, he left his best players on the bench. Iheanacho, Yahaya, Isaac Success, Chidera Ezeh, Nwakali, were all left on the bench in favor of the home based boys like ifeanyi ifeanyi, Godwin savior who did not have clubs at the time.

We under-performed even though we had better players on the bench. His selection in that tournament baffled the imagination.
I thought Iheanacho and Success had below performance at U 20 WC.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:16pm On Feb 15, 2018
forgiveness:
How can we compare a player that made CAF team of the year with Sadiq Umar, Taiwo Awoniyi and Victor Osimhen?

I don't think they are in the same level. No, not at all.

His only problem is, he has many players ahead of him but it doesn't mean he should not be given the chance.
Not really comparing them but they belong to the same class when we talked of future prospect.

I think your last paragraph has said it all and that's my point cos i see Ighalo, Iheanacho, Kayode,Nwakaeme and Ideye ahead of him
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:13pm On Feb 15, 2018
bengine:
Isn't this a sentiment that won't ensure us get the best talent..why don't you say good scouting and selecting the best regardless of where you are from.. By limiting to 20%FB, you are already setting up a quota system..

The fact is most of this foreign born have a good platform and can be nurtured easily at this foreign clubs..by getting them to commit early with a U20 tournament, Nigeria senior national team can only benefit from it..

I'm not against grassroots players, if there are that good, they should be able to displace any foreign born since most FB are not full time professionals yet at 18yrs..its this kind of thinking that made us loose Alaba!! Today we can't even boost of an above average truly left-footed left back on our national team.

I just dont like the idea of setting a quota system for the U20 team..
I think sir SerVik beautiful comment on this HG and FB has settled it all, try and read it then you will understand my point better.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:10pm On Feb 15, 2018
tbaba1234:
Manu Garba abandoned his best under 20 players on the bench and went for those who were largely still homebased to help them find clubs. The result was a poor performance which did not help anyone find good European clubs.

If you choose your best players regardless of where they are based. The chance for a good tournament is high. This improves the chances for the home-based to find good clubs.
Pls why is it anytime we had poor outing at any tournament with local coach in charge is either they collect bribe or want to sell their players but for their foreign counterparts we find excuse for them.

I know the foreign one always did nothing wrong,they are the best to you guys,against South Africa i remember how some shifted the poor result on home based assistants as if they are dictating to Rohr,forgetting Rohr is the coach.

Pls can you prove it that Manu Garba collect bribe or want to sell some players outside and decided to keep the best on the bench.

Mind you i rate foreign coach far ahead of local ones based on tactical approach to game but trying to rubbish them on unsubstantiated claims is uncalled for.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:55am On Feb 15, 2018
SerVik:
The question of FB for flying Eagles is a tricky one.

Spending scarce resources in terms of flight tickets and logistics for players all over Europe to turn up for an U20 or U17 camping is something many might not see as a wise pursuit.

It doesn't only affect Foreign borns. Sometimes even homegrown talents that moved abroad are excluded from qualifiers for this same reason.

Coaches then make do with the available homebased players. By the time these set of players qualify for the world cup, they'd have gained some level of chemistry and camaraderie, so much so that it becomes difficult to drop these players for the foreign based and dual nationals.

Injection of new players into these set is therefore not wholesome, as very few new additions are made. That is why a player like iheanacho, even with his exploits at the U17 and man city, was still made to sit on the bench for a homebased player at the world cup.
What a top notch analysis! End of discussion [EOD]
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
Icon4s:
I said it, but Bascovanveli, who prefers to project his " Pure Gold " said it is because he is my boy.

Junior Ajayi remains one of our most underrated strikers. It is not every player that I clamor for a national team invite.

He deserves at least a place in the 35 man list. I see him as a better prospect than Brown Ideye and Anthony Nwakaeme. His profile has continued to rise and I see him moving to Europe pretty soon. He obviously is one for the future even if he doesn't make Russia.
Sir this coming WC is not about prospect but performance,so better to have player that would give us optimum performance than only prospect,i remember the same Ajayi was put to bench by Sadiq Umar at Rio.

Truly he is having good performance at Egyptian league and making CAF team but what would you say having Ideye,Nwakaeme even Kayode in Egypt league, pls consider this factor.

I don't think this coming WC is meant for the likes of Sadiq Umar, Junior Ajayi,Taiwo Awoniyi,and Victor Osimhen,as you said i see them as good prospects for 2022 WC.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
Lucque:
How did nothing stop him,?? he wasn't called na... E for just go buy GwG jersey fly himself to camp and join d players??... I dnt believe it will affect our HG development if we pick 90%
FB based on merit ND quality.
Mind u we have been using HG all this while ND it has not translated into anytin tangible... D quality we parade in u-20 world cups are always not up to d expectations... ND saying dat starting now to integrate FB into d fold will affect grassroots development is not true cos we have been using HG since ND I dnt see much development
grin
My man i think U 17 is purely meant for homegrown players and as at that time it will take a third eyes to consider Alaba for our U 17 team and i want you to read Alaba interview,he laid more emphasis on his agent cos thet went through third party who was not even member of NFF who told them that it was was meant for homegrown and they didn't push further,so not anybody's fault.

Oh 90% FB for under age then better to relocate NFF secretariat to UK or Germany meaning our grassroots development programs is useless.

Pls we don't need to argue this much cos what we are saying is simple,the bedrock of any serious football nationa is grassroots,but you want us to shifts it to foreign land in the name of FBs.

Apart from missing out on Alaba David,Ali Dele and of recent Manuel Akanji,pls tell me any FBs that will regret not having in our national teams.

I don't think it's ideal to have full FBs in underage team and I know NFF would not be foolish to adopt such approach, better to have few talented ones not mediocre FBs and mixed it with what we have on ground.

I will never agreed with you that underage team have not brought any good thingto Nigeria football, pls go back to history and you will agreed with me that our under age teams are always solids,forget that will missed out recently.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:27am On Feb 15, 2018
forgiveness:
What about if the HG doesn't have the quality of FB and they are fighting for the same position, should we drop the better one and pick the lesser one because we want HG?

Is it about HG or about choosing the best?

Please, don't forget that the same HG rule denied us David Alaba.
I don't think there is anything like HG rule but Alaba agent didn't do his home work properly and mind you if Alaba was willing to.play for us nothing stop him.

Those that are playing for another country are not the ready to play for us or do you want to say Manuel Akanji was willing cos he has a Father who our called a local bred player who should be his guardian but the boy opted for Switzerland.

My point is this throwing opened U 20 to FBs in the name of catching them young should be done in a way that would not affect the home grown,that's why I suggest HG 80% FB 20 or HG 70% FB 30%.

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