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TheGoodJoe:
Fear God. Fluke to thrash Mali and beat Cote d'Ivoire, the favorites and the hottest talents in the competition.

By the way Keshi failed to qualify for one Nations Cup. Not two. The other was Oliseh that failed.

nelszx:
Park the bus against Algeria away? That defence collapsed completely. How Algeria weren't able to score still remains a mystery to me even at Lusaka against same Zambia. The defence is zero Slimani had a off day over the 2 legs even Bentaleb couldn't trap inside the 18 on several occasions.

Well they won't see wing play for sure cos Rohr must have Marshalled that out already just like Cameroon were unsuccessful with their wing play. Look at the match Zambia away and home to Algeria and tell me if they really packed any bus. Cos what I saw MF and defence collapsed completely over both legs and the stingy Algeria players who wanted self glory instead of square play.

Whoever will play our RB either of Shehu/Aina will need to be up and doing that Mwepu has got sprint to take on defenders and our LB should get complement from the MF cos of the pace of Fashion. But still I believe if we possess the MF their players upfront would just be spectators.

Joebie:
Thanks boss!

daveP:
lol. He and his Chilean namesake are having one kind sleek understanding that would soon make Ozil be forgotten.

Joebie:
Iorfa said he is now available for Nigeria. We will go for Felix and Torunarigha, I'm confident about that. Let's wrap up this Zambia issue. lol

genghiskhan007:
All d aforementioned people you mentioned are of little or no elctoral relevance come 2019
APCmust do their 16 years uninterrupted whether d devil likes it or not
These men do not control INEC, which has been poised to deliver victory to APC in 2019
Akinjide, a Pdp stalwart talking about Nigeria's going forward when his daughter who is under EFCC watch, helped in looting Naija under Jonathan
What is good for d goose os good for d quail
I'll rather listen to Hitler give a lecture on human rights

modelmike7:
only criminals, thieves, rogues, looters and armed robbers WON'T want to vote for PMB!

Joebie:
Omeruo is not even good enough for the standby list right now.

Don't suspect foul play when there is none. Who made move for Sarenren Bazee? Same person also made a move for another German-Nigerian --
I can't remember. We are only hearing of Tammy this Tammy not only because of his exploit in the Championship but he's moved to the Premier League. Added to that Pinnick has a personal relationship with the dad. I'm sure Rohr has he's eyes on those Germans. That's his circle. He knows what to do. Just because he is not loud mouthed like Pinnick don't mean he is not looking to win them over.
Besides, don't forget we made a move on Torunarigha earlier.

Joebie:
Are they ready? What's stopping them now? All the names you mentioned need to switch their allegiance first. After that we have to see what they can bring.. Not a short term solution to me. My point is you need your best alternatives in bench at all times. When those players you mentioned finally make the switch then we can talk about them fighting for the CB spot. For now, I'm stil waiting for you to mention names that can be IMMEDIATE alternatives.

komekn:
I have watched Tosin since he was about 14 at Manchester City. He reads the game well but seems lightweight doesn't have the physicality to impose himself on the game. He has not been able to break into the first team and is indeed a long way off.

Add to that he has not been able to break into the England youth set up in recent times. I do not rate him highly. He desperately needs to go on loan as a matter of URGENCY. Otherwise he can easily stagnate.

Possibly one for the Future. However, if City release him I can see him dropping a few leagues down.

Humility017:
you comparing German league wit the Scottish league....is a gross injustice and loopsided...
even Dortmund and bayern levekersun will beat hell out of Celtic.

every ucl season...bayern do prove their worth and that their triumph in German league is no fluke
calling a young defender like Felix a bench warmer is surprising...a player who had played over 50% of his club football this season...
same way you downplayed ebuehi because he plays in the Dutch league...

mind you the acclaimed one of the best CB in Africa right now...Leon plies his trade in the German league...and doesn't get to play that much...but whenever he plays for Nigeria he shines like a milion stars...
going by your assertion Leon should be a Benjamin.

with all due respect sir...it seems you ignorant of the German football culture, something evident in all their groomed players


same league wit only only dominant champion...bayern and other average clubs..
Germany will build a formidable senior national team, under 23, under 20 and under 17 from and they will be unbeatable and have other nations for dinner even England...

go back to history both male and female football...
besides Brazil....Germany have one of the most robust history in football having won more trophies and appearing in more finals than any other european nation.


Felix don't need experience to get into the super eagles......with his potentials he is raring to go...we should go for him instead...

komekn:

You haven't answered the question, how many games has he played in the Bundesliga for his team

Being in the Bundesliga as a first team player playing regular football is a world away from playing a few games and warming the bench. That's not the pedigree required for the SE.

Wolfsburg was almost relegated last season and are far from being a top club. The bottom section of the Bundesliga I will rate on par with the mid section of the Championship.

Bundesliga is rated 4th in Europe and I have watched quite a few German teams. Which I find to be almost a one team league with Bayern winning everything going almost year in year out. The gap between Bayern and it's closest rivals is considerable.

Unlike in the premiership you really cannot tell each year who can win it. You have almost 5/6 teams in contention every year. Wining the league consecutively or three years in a row is near impossible.

Bundesliga is close to Scotland premier league with Celtic running away with everything for the past few years. It's the performance of Bayern that pushes them up the European rankings.

That's why I can't really see Wolfsburg, Mainz and Augsberg beating Fulham, Derby and Middlesbrough.

It's in thar regard I consider the premiership the most competitive, the fastest and physically demanding intense league in the World.

The Bundesliga may contend technically speaking but that's about it. That's my view on the Bundesliga.

With this in mind why do you regard 20 year old youth player essentially who is inexperienced, untested and unproven a better option than Efe Ambrose.

Dominic Iorfa is fast strong but technically superior with regard to the SE he is not that comfortable on the ball. However, he probably is better than Omeruo who wasn't able to cut it in the championship with Middlesbrough.

Humility017:
dude has played over 3 games this season...
two last games he has played...
you can go find out...

Humility017:
experienced centre half that will sit on the bench...ryt?
do you think efe will like sit on the bench or rather act as back up to the current defenders.....?

you simply not sold on Felix reason because he plies his football in Germany and not in England...
had it been you've been following up the German league...you will know how well he has played this season and minutes he has to his belt.
I remember you once signalled Wolfsburg to be in same lane wit championship club....

let's leave that aside....the German league is miles ahead of the Scottish league...
Felix will offer more in the long run...for Nigeria...the goal is not just now but to build a formidable team that will make a mark in Qatar 2022...and beyond
rather than go for efe I will prefer we even go for illorfa

Napoleon55:
between IWOBI and MOSES SIMON,who starts against zambia?
@Icons,Goodjoe,Mickael2,Goldfish80,forgiveness,etc
for me i will go for IWOBI

BascoVanVeli:
Iwobi gets the started.

BascoVanVeli:
Iwobi gets the started.

Mickael2:
Boss, the discussion was loooong and I sent in that comment around 12am? You can see I even ended the argument myself.

Back to Kanu, Mujitdha I pointed out that a legend need not score goals or even assist but his input in the team is all that matters. I can remember a game against Cameroon(can't remember the year) but we won 2-1 or so(okocha and Utaka), Utaka's goal came from a brilliant pass from Kanu that sent him clean through. Kanu is a legend, that he didn't score goals in the Afcon does not change that fact for me

Mujtahida:
Kanu never scored a single goal at any of the Afcons he participated in

Mujtahida:
Kanu never scored a single goal at any of the Afcons he participated in

goldfish80:
Let's not pretend like we don't know why most people don't see Mikel as a Chelsea legend. I am not saying they are right or wrong but some perspective will do everyone alot of good.

For me, it was pitiful to watch a highly talented player like Mikel reduced to a role of a water carrier. He played with a lot of handbrakes, couldn't venture forward to express himself, he basically lumbered around in his own half,marking out players and providing an extra man for his team to pass the ball to and retain possession.
Look, let's be honest, this role is reserved for technically limited players like Roy Keane, Didier Deschamps and Dickson Etuhu. Mikel was too good a player to be reduced to a lumbering quater back.

If he had played the sort of role he played for Chelsea at the U20 world cup, nobody would have listed him as the better players of the tournament. Why wasn't Sani Keita rated next to Messi in 2005?

We can pretend like we don't know these, I see alot of people on this thread prefer quasi truths. Mikel at Chelsea became an object of mockery when he scored a one off goal off a corner kick against PsG.
The reaction to that goal should indicate what people expected of Mikel at Chelsea.

Yes, he could be a Chelsea legend but he never fulfilled the potential his talent deserved at Chelsea. That is the gospel truth.

Mujtahida:
If you say Roger Milla is a legend now they won't understand.

safarigirl:
Wow, I missed out on the Mikel legend argument

Anyway, as the VP of Mikel Avengers, I must drop my own points last last

7 REASONS WHY MIKEL IS A LEGEND

1. Mikel is a legend because there is NO way you will discuss Chelsea's UCL win without mentioning Mikel.... When they discuss who skinned a Barca player, who gave a vital pass, who made a vital tackle, Mikel will be mentioned. That is what makes one a legend

2. Mikel is a legend because Ndidi named him as his role model growing up....he didn't name JJ or Kanu, he named Mikel. Makings of a legend

3. Mikel is a legend because Leon Balogun mentioned him as one of his role models

4. Mikel is a legend because he was instrumental to players like Ola Aina playing for Nigeria

5. Mikel is a legend because he was the only top player that did not abandon the team during the Oliseh fracas that had Musa as captain

6. Mikel is a legend because with his maturity has come humility, which is why his SE team mates refer to him as ODOGWU and give him the utmost respect

7. Mikel is a legend because he has covered Nigeria and NFF's shame multiple times, he never complains of ill treatment, is it because him eye never see something for this team? No

So, I take God beg people wey no like Mikel, we are not asking for your like, but please, RESPECT the man enough not to drag his name through mud and laugh at his achievements.

neighy:
i actually share your view about di mateo.. His name will go down in history.. I get your point and your view and lastly i respect you, you don't term people whose view contradict yours as "hater"
you be agba and not agbaya infact permission to add "SIR" to your name...

BascoVanVeli:
Efe has not been away from the team for such a long time. At least not long enough for u to put him in the same breath as Taiye who stopped getting invites about 4 or 5 coaches ago. All I know is that if Efe continues in this vain of form it would be very hard for any coach not to select him.

BascoVanVeli:
Efe has not been away from the team for such a long time. At least not long enough for u to put him in the same breath as Taiye who stopped getting invites about 4 or 5 coaches ago. All I know is that if Efe continues in this vain of form it would be very hard for any coach not to select him.

BascoVanVeli:
Efe has not been away from the team for such a long time. At least not long enough for u to put him in the same breath as Taiye who stopped getting invites about 4 or 5 coaches ago. All I know is that if Efe continues in this vain of form it would be very hard for any coach not to select him.

Joebie:
Let me add, just today Hibernian held Scottish powerhouse Celtic to a 2-2 draw AWAY.

neighy:
yea.. Its good to know players like cudicini, mata, ramires, oscar et all are legends nd like u said even di mateo.. Nd now know ur definition of "LEGEND"

BascoVanVeli:
Why do u keep bringing up Taiye Taiwo? Oya when was his last game with the super eagles? Efe Ambrose was a regular until Rohr came around and that was because he had a long spell without playing at celtic. Him and Leon Balogun were forming a strong partnership, remember they were the pair that we used to beat Cameroon 3 nil under Oliseh. Now that he is actually playing week in week out on a good team I don't see why he should not be considered when all u have in mind is Omeruo.

Joebie:
if I am right, I believe it was a stupid own goal against Barcelona in a friendly, that made Celtic fans call for his head. He dropped to lower team, Hibernian, had several MOTM awards if i'm not mistaking and help them to the top tier. Since then he's been a regular. Did Ambrose ever show a loss of form? I stand to be corrected.

Or mabye we should consider a couple of our CB's from WAFU(?).