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OMANBALA1:
Move on if you can't provide the names and I never compared the north to the west. This is about a quality that is lacking in an average northern players. Most of them are speedy players like Garba Lawal,Tijani Babangida,Ahmed Musa and Rabiu Ali. By the way ,the west has produced some amazing midfield players in Ajagun,Raheem Lawal,Mutiu,Muda Lawal,Haruna Ilerika.

Oh i don't know that was d basis for this arguements.

Good lets go down to memory lane,before d emergence of Henry Nwosu,Eim Esin,Jayjay Okocha, Sunday Olishe, Mikel Obi,player like Haruna Ilerika,Muda Lawal ran d show in d late 70s and early 80s.

Haruna Ilerika was like Jayjay OKocha,very good and solid midfielder.Muda Lawal can be compared to Sunday Olishe.

On northern extraction i w named Garba Lawal as d biggest to come out from north but cannot be compared to Mutiu Adepoju as far as national team is concern,also sani kaita that I w rate at par with Seyi Olofinjana.

Northern extraction player like Moses Otolorin,Kafaru Alabi also did well but not as influential as Ilerika and Muda Lawal.

Nevertheless we don't need this coz National team belongs to every players irrespective where u come from and this thread is too beautiful for tribalism to derail it.

realpoacher:
I am not an active member of this thread but I had to watch the game yesterday in order to correct you guys excessive compliants. You guys go on all the time to condemn all 11 eleven players each time a team loses when in actual sense you guys sense of judgment is terribly wrong.


What I saw yesterday was not bad players per say but bad coaching. I do not hold brief for all the players (tho I do for some) but when a coach do not have 1-2 creative AMF in his team or do not play lethal attacking football, his team will suffer. Simples!

Nigeria's defense have been solid and their passes very nice all through the tournament but the major problem the team had was that they weren't scoring goals, no! They were not lethal in finishing. When you don't attack and score very well no matter how good your defense is its going to crumble when you meet a solid opposition who defends like you but have a terrific attack.

When you lose scandalously like this, one is tempted to blame everyone and rubbish all the players but introducing 2-3 new better players to fill in for the "obvious lapses", this same team would beat the Ghanaians again.

For me, the errors I noticed is that the team lacked creative AMF's who will link the attackers to the midfielders. That's their only errors. Okpoti and Co were starved of the supplies, it was either Ghana's defensive midfielders were too exceptional or our AMF's were poor and were completely neutralized. Either way we lost.

Keeper - defense - DMF's were good, their major problem was their supply in the final third half. For complete 80 minutes there was no shot on target! Can you imagine that?.. Prior to the final, we scored a meagre 3 goals in 4 games against which teams? Benin, Mali & Guinea! Very poor attacking stats I must say. These are teams we should be using for training sessions, if we meant business.

My recommendations, allow the team the way they are but drop 3 reserves and go in search of 3 excellent creative AMF's who can hold their own any day around the final third and we will be home and dry at CHAN

Oh u said it all,u are not an active member of this thread.Am one of d guys who believed so much in this team even telling who care to listen that Adeleye and Eze deserves Team A Eagles call up.

I'm not d type that condemn any team when they lost but d reality is this d team lacks basic thing which u already addressed in your post.I w not deceive u d Benin match really exposed d team and Ghana used d match to nailed us.

safarigirl:
I think some people here owe an apology to Sir Icon4s for challenging him when he said the win over Ghana was nothing to celebrate

I don apologize already madam.

Icon4s:
Did Omeruo kick anyone to commit a penalty against Zambia?

No o but his own style of kung-fu play led to a goal.

tbaba1234:
I think one of the problems with local players is that they are poorly coached from the start. That is why even the talented ones are exposed or have to relearn when they go abroad.

Honestly u are right but did u know that this poorly train thing is not peculiar only to footballers,this things cut across every segments in Nigeria.If u travel out as a migrant u w realised u know nothing when it comes to basic things and whether u like it or not u need to learn from basics again,d only advantage is that Nigerians learnt fast.

somehow:
Point 5 western midfielders that have played in any national team.

Pls what is northern or western midfielders

Icon4s:
For instance Just look at the Sunday Eze that they said deserves a call up. Playing kung-fu in the 18yards box.

Truly Eze was exposed today which is normal in football just like our defenders were exposed against South Africa.I remeber Omeruo do d same kung-fu against Zambia.

OMANBALA1:
I am not surprised by the way Ghana whooped this spineless home based eagles like little kids. I said it here after the first game with Siera Leone that this team is very poor. Salisu is a crappy coach and he chosed a confused Rabiu Ali to anchor our midfield.

Friday John shouldn't have worn the super eagles jersey...Dude has nothing to offer.

Okpotu is a typical physical Nigerian league player. Youth football development is our only hope. Most of these league players started playing from the street and never learn the rudiments of the game. Few can't trap a ball under tension and have no technique. Look at the Benin republic,Siera Leone and Ghana and you can see the quality in their play and individual skills.

U are right.

mumemma:
Ezenwa and Akpeyi...who is better?

Better between d duo,nothing to say coz both are very averaged.I don't even know whom to pick.Hope we resolves this goalkeeping crisis before World Cup.

I watched Nigeria match against Guinea in this just concluded wafu cup and i discovered a lot of things regarding our local coaches and now agreed with a lot who always castigate them,in that match it was too obvious that Dele Ajiboye is better than Ezenwa meaning we might have better keepers better than d duo.

Look at d outfield players,for God sake old Rabiu Ali anchor Nigeria midfield,not condemning d guy but something is fishing,d same thing Aremu,this two guys find it so difficult to make passes and it was hell for Okpotu.

Initially i rate Eze highly but injury to Adeleye exposed him, still has a lot to learn,it was obvious that Adeleye do most of d dirty jobs in d defence and moment he left d pitch,our defence was exposed.

Nothing to say on Okoro and Akas,goldfish 80 just need to tell me why he rated Okoro highly.I watched d guy keenly and i w say he had good games in group stage but Benin,Ghana match showed that he lacks it.

Generally,this team should not be d best from local leagues and with what i see so far Salisu Yusuf and co need to put sentiments apart and give us d best,CHAN is around and this team not a CHAN team.

Icon4s:
Ezenwa busted.

Not his fault man,d last four could'nt cope when Adeleye got injured,d midfield oh my God thrash,in such situations what do u expect from average Ezenwa.

Quite agreed with u now that Ghana relaxed in their last game against Nigeria,it was obvious.

emeka1101:
As I said Ghana has hosted more AFCON than any AFRICAN country.
Which means they can host this CHAN or whatever.
Stop being dumb.

This is what we are saying'DUMB'on football matter,why for God sake.

zuchyblink:
Zambia has better stadiums than Nigeria. Ghana has stadiums and have the finance to build more

Zambia has better stadiums than Nigeria?this is d first time am hearing this,honestly i don't know,pls can u tell me more about Zambia stadiums.

safarigirl:
please, let none of us grace that thread with his presence. I think virtually every one of us at one point or another has been insulted on thus thread badly. I have cried after collecting insults on vthis thread, I have taken a hiatus and I have returned many times. So, why does he want to be a baby?

Let him do whatever he damn pleases and be king of his own land. Only a foolish man sees corrections as condemnations. If he continues with such attitude, even that thread won't last.

None of us should give him the pleasure of our presence. That was a very disrespectful thing to do to the pioneers of this thread and he should be ashamed of himself

Cc icon4s, joseph1013, thegoodjoe, robosky02, kog45, Joebie, Omanbala1, Terzurun5, danycrusoe, certitude and every other member of this thread

My sister i dey surprise o

terzurum5:
"The New Super Eagles Thread: Russia 2018 World Cup and The Dawn of a New Era (The Next Golden Generation)".
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Attention to u gurus in d house, just saw another thread by SuperNerd tagged d rise of Nigeria next's golden generation ..... ..... .....

Honestly am not against d thread,good to have different threads on Nigeria football but my concerns was i w not be happy if what am thinking was what led to d creation of d thread (disagreemens here)if it's, then what do we say about forgiveness who people tagged tribal for expressing his opinions.

I hope SuperNerd comes back.According to Michael2, nobody is irreplaceable but we need a great bond here irrespective where we all come from and make things work.

Pls henceforth no matter d provocation, don't let us descend so low and attack our parents,is nauseating and absurd.

CC:guys in d house

junnyjake:
SE helped his career, no long talk about it.

Yes Super Eagles made Ekong.I remember Oshaniwa case,thegoodjoe said some player need national team to grow or to boost their career while some don't need it,watching Olympics and compared with what he offer now,SE is a blessings to Ekong.

Joebie:
No Ehizibue requires a switch of allegiance. Whereas, Ebuehi never played for Holland's junior teams

If i go by icon4s,we need players who are better than d ones in d present squad,if they are not,then we should relax.If i may ask is Ehizibue better than d current players in d squad (Aina,Shehu,Ebuhei)or Nura Abdullahi who is a full Nigerian coz i believe we are covered in RB but if d guy can play CB like Felix Uduokhai or LB,then we can try him.

junnyjake:
I watched him at Granada, he was skilfull no doubt. But he's not that much clinical in front of goal.

if he really wants to play any part in next year's world cup, he should go back to Spain.

Success part of next year world cup?first he needs to discover his form,truly a skillful player but does skills do it alone,people championing Success are being sentimentals and are basking in d euphoria of past performance (Granada)truth be told he lacks it now and it w take a miracle for him to be in d squad going to d world cup.He is also injury prone, just like Joel Obi,no good coach want injury prone player in his team,no doubt d guy is talented but need to shape up.

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goldfish80:
What we called Pro league back in the 70's and 80's was nothing more than semi professional league where students played for league clubs. That was the reason why so many players of that era left Nigeria to go study in America. People like Okey Isima, Ofoje, Patrick Ekeji, Kenneth Boardman etc....

They hardly payed these guys then. They played for the love of the game and the fame that came with it. I know some of these ex players in person. Someone like Stanley Okoronkwo is actually like family. I can beat my chest and say you know little of what you're talking about.

My man u try o with d names u rolled out especially Ikechuckwu ofoje,hope u still remember Ifeanyi onyedika,Monday Eguavoen a senior bro to Austin,Augustine Igbinabairo,Osaro Obabaifo,Ndubuisi Okosieme senior bro to Nkiru of falcon fame,Taju Dusu junior bro to Tunde Dish,Waheed Akannni,Akinlotans brothers,Niyi Aderinoku(obodo) now a multi millionaire in oil and gas biz.This was d periods school boys played d league and it was fun,most find their way to US on scholarships.

TheGoodJoe:
So to you all unfit players are injured. Haaa.

Don't you know when a player recovers from injury, he still needs to work his way back to fitness? Do you not know a player can be unfit due to hi lifestyle and lack of training and needs to work hard to get in shape and fitness?

Accepted but can u share a link where Shakespeare said Nacho is not fit coz i remember before Cameroon match he was injured.

TheSuperNerd:
This thread is a big joke now honestly.... A thread where idiots are allowed to get away with Insulting someone's mother? A thread where any one can just walk in and attack anyone and when the one being attacked shows how good he is with word jabs, they all take to supporting the one who attacked first.


Like seriously.... I now question the kind of people we have in here. People who will see Rubbish and keep quiet about it but when I begin lashing the negatives and being tough about it... They begin to talk to me.... how classic. It has been nice being on this thread... but I don't roll with hypocrites... I am not here for anyone... I am here for Nigerian Football and its return to Glory days. Time for a move on... Too much familiarity breeds contempt.

But when my mother is brought in and insulted and no one stands up to speak vehemently against that... then it is time to say goodbye. I am progressing well and flying high in my Hopkins research scholarships and other studies partly because of her. You don't insult someone's mother of goodwill and think your life will be okay. Can't believe how people reason on here...



P.S: I named this thread. The elders and people who were here from the beginning know that and they understand my passion buy maybe even they have forgotten. Goodbye and plss don't bother quoting....it is the last you see of me.

Pls where are u going?u just need to remain and let us continue d football education.

Do not worry,anybody that insult any person's Father or mother is not human and u should see that fellow like that,pls don't let us turn this thread to political thread where anything goes,let us keep on showing that respect..

I don't think anybody here w support someone thrashing any parents down here,is not possible,even mere insults are addressed here without rancor.

Pls stay put coz u are needed just like anyone here, your contributions are educating,just be a man and forget any ill feelings.

TheGoodJoe:
There is a big difference between injury and getting back to fitness.

Nacho not fit?pls explain better coz half fit Nacho cannot come in against Cameroon and score,may be he is finding it difficult to adapt to Leicester style which he must do by all means as long as Shakespeare remain d coach.

krattoss:
Am sorry to say this but Leicester might get relegated with these Type of rubbish they 're playing. ..

And I pray ndidi, musa and nacho shines during the 2018 worldcup so they can get a better club..

Or else....let me keep quite..

All they need is playing regularly like Ndidi is doing and clubs w come knocking, Musa just need to move in January but Nacho must be ready to fight for his place in d team coz Vardy,Okazaka are threat and Slimani is watching,hope he grab his chance soon.

Danielnino00:
Another bad week for Nacho..
but we got the 3 points





No Nigeria player has scored a goal in the premier league this season. .. That's worrying...

Pls forget goal first and talk of playing time,Musa not making d squad,Success always on d bench,Nacho still find it hard to fit in,may be Ndidi w give us goal but do we need goal from Ndidi?or probably Iwobi which is unusual,those we need goals from are not making d XI.

bigblangston:
Things will definitely turn around for the better for the lad hopefully, but for dear goodjoe to come up with that excuse of him not been a good fit at leceister is as if he's justifying his earlier stance while he should remain in the hands of the driller and already giving excuse of why he may flop

Excuse for over £20m signing,he either perform or face d music,see Musa now not making d squad.

tbaba1234:
He should have gone on loan to Hull. He would have played regularly and gotten his form back.

Agreed

poshemmanuel:
Ahmed Musa is too good to be relegated to Leicester City reserves..

That's just d issue,Musa in d reserves,Nacho on d bench in a very average EPL team,not good for their pedigrees.

Humility017:
my brother some national team na joke.
they wanna go give other countries cheap points in Russia...

That's d reason d big team prepared for d qualifications, if u failed to prepare d jokers w have their way and they don't care about d result but appearance.Hope u remember Keshi's Togo,Angola went at our expense in 2006,when Okocha and Kanu are tired of playing for Nigeria, picking matches to play,we paid dearly for it

bigblangston:
The way you come up with excuses for Kele boy is shocking, saying he's not a good fit for leceister system is like you are indirectly playing down his quality has a player that can't adapt to any situation or football pattern he sees himself. Was Bolton wanderers playing the one - two football of arsenal before Wilshere burst into world class status? was Daniel Sturridge playing Chelsea type of football at Bolton.

Even the type of football you said he is used to at Manchester City, he still finds himself as a drilling mechanism for the first eleven players at Man City, so what are you proposing for Kele boy, I'm sure you still want him to be a training material at City with all these he doesn't fit a leceister system you are talking about.

This is the time for Kelechi to rise above the ashes like a Phoenix and show us he's the man and by making excuses for him downplays his ability

I hope things turn better for Nacho at Leicester coz if he failed to make it,it w really affect his career.Let keep on watching,d league is still young but not waiting for anybody.

junnyjake:
Guardiola was the worst thing that ever happened to Nacho.

If Pelligrini was still at City, we won't be having this conversation.

God bless Pelligrini wherever he is.

Na thegoodjoe caused all this heated arguments,when we dey tell am sey Guardiola na bad market for Nacho,he no gree,u don see am now.Pls don't karate me.

Joebie:
Why is there no mention of Kenny Otigba. I don't think Troost-Ekong had a better stat prior to his invitation to SE.

I always gbadun u,SE really shaped Troost-Ekong,watching him at Olympics and now,the guy has really improved.

TheSuperNerd:
And Tammy because of Pinnick... Don't you think so? It is no lies or jokes that Pinnick is a close family friend of Tammy's Dad.


Talking about assurance... Victor Moses who Tammy rates and respects at Chelsea called into that meeting between Pinnick and the Abraham family and spoke of how eager they wanna see him in Nigeria's colors... urging him to fly with the Eagles and not choose to hunt with the Lions.

And if England rate Tammy that much, they would give him a call-up at least... Right now na Rashford dey take all the spotlight because he is fully English but Tammy is Anglo-Nigerian... England don't wanna and will never rate Tammy over Rashford and we know why. Tammy does not have a career with England... Nigeria is the best for him.

I wish he play for Nigeria coz we need him than England.

safarigirl:
but the guy no insult you now

The way wey una dey see insult for this NL dey fear me

OK my sister.