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andrewbaba44:
I believe osimhen will go to chelsea if they make a bid just as you stated, he will easily start at chelsea than napoli, napoli have better forwards than chelsea

I disagree he is technically not astute. There is nobody in the Chelsea team among the forwards that he technically better than.

So how will he easily start.

His main weapon is pace, that his pace will work in a much slower French league but not in the EPL.

He is definitely faster than Giroud but that's not enough he will need more.

TheLoneCitizen:
Barcelona rely on Messi. Barcelona not poor.

Messi is the best player in the world how many times has he won the Balon Dor ❓

Barcelona as a team is excellent but that excellence complements the best player on the world.

They are totally and completely two different situations.

GeneralFarouq:
I do not know why u have to write something as foolish as this,... So U.S is scared of Nigerian govt as to resort to the use of media.

How did you arrive at such a nonsensical proposition devoid of any substance and or rational.

Because I did not and if l did not , who Did That means it must be you.

That being the case look in the mirror, probably wipe it down so you can see clearly. Now you can see, what do you see a!?? ❓ a wise man or the exact OPPOSITE.

Danielnino00:
Osimhen being the centre point of Lille's gameplay simply shows how good he is,don't you think..
Tammy on the other hand has been benched several times by a 33 years old Giroud and now,a much better striker has been signed to give him competition or maybe bench him..





Osimhen got 4 assists and created 5 big chances in the league this season.. Tammy on the other hand got just 1 assists and created 1big chances..

U self judge am..who is the better team player?unless u want to stick with your "stats are indicative " bla bla



Napoli are one of the most tactically balanced team in Italy and maybe Europe... They are a team that have maintained a possesive attacking style of play in the past 5 seasons despite having different managers.. They have/had some very fine players like Mertens,Insigne,Milik,Callejon,Lozano,Koulibaly,etc... Do u really think they would spend that much money on Osimhen if they thought he wasn't good enough to play for them?
On the other hand,Tammy was quite lucky to play for Chelsea.... If they really wanted him,they would have called him back afrer his back to back fine season in tge championship..instead,they waited until a transfer ban came in before giving him and other youth players a chance..
Osimhen worked his way to the top...it wasn't handed to him on a platter of gold!




I have answered your question...
You just decide to pretend I didn't..

Actually it's the contrary, Victor being the center point and focal point of Lille, shows how poor the team is not how good.

The term team is anchored in its entirety on COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY AND PARTICIPATION. The opposite of that is singular responsibility and participation or focus.

When we talk about team work it's about cooperation, sharing responsibility, fusion and convergence of tasks in a collective.

Osimhen is the quintessential number 9 in Lille, everything is about him and for him in the team it's a singular approach.

Osimhen scored 13 goals in the French league one and his team 35 that's over 40% of the goals by one man. The closest person to him had 7 goals in Loic Remy.

Now compare to Chelsea 69 goals in the EPL, Tega 15, Pulisic 9, Willian 9, Giroud 8, Mount 7.

There is really nothing to discuss it's obvious as daylight unless your in darkness.

A heat map reflects more the team strategy not the individual attributes of a player.

Tega earned the right to play in Chelsea after consistent continous outstanding perfomances in the Championship and EPL over three seasons. He is proven and tested.

Everything you have written about Napoli is assumptive deduction by self birthed perception.

Finally, l asked you to name the player attributes that Victor exceeds Tega with to make him better ❓ ❓ But you could not find one. You have avoided the question.

Subzero047:

Shehu paid his dues tho, he was one of our best players during the World cup qualifiers

And if you play your way into Rohr's team you have to play your way out

The bold is entirely your opinion.

Danielnino00:
To summarize, Osimhen is a better team player than Tammy..

Their respective heatmap for the season should tell u something..

Pic 1 : Tammy's


Pic 2 : Osimhen's

Heat map proves nothing it's not even Indicative.

Each team has a different strategy and approach to the game.

First of all Chelsea is not a team that focuses on one player as it's focal point. But rather emphasis is on the attacking formation.

As such you will find a Pulisic 9, Willian 9, Giroud 8, and Mount 8 all scored. What you have is interaction and team play among the forward lines, that's why you have multiple goals from multiple sources. And so Tega scores goals from the interaction between players.

So if he wasn't a good team player in a highly technical team, how did he score 15 EPL goals.

Victor Osimhen position is totally different, he is essentially the team. Their entire team strategy is centred around him. He is the focal point of the entire team, the team strategy is very simple, "give the ball to Victor"

Almost half of all the goals Lille scored in French league one where scored by Victor. That says it all, out of 35 goals scored by Lille in the league, 13 were scored by Victor.

Your proposition is completely wrong the team player is Tega not Victor. Tega scored just about 20% of Chelsea 69 goals in the EPL.

The question is can Victor play as part of a team in a technical based team without him being the focal point. His real test will be with Napoli because for the first time in his professional career he is not going to be the focal point of the team. How will he adapt and can he thrive.

You actually evaded my question when l asked what attributes does Victor have over Tega.

jihday:
Cc: Chriskels

Experienced proven and tested and still the best IMO.

JayromWrites:
In My opinion

Haaland
Osimhen
Martinelli
Greenwood

That's off my head

Martinelli, Greenwood that's not proven just your preference.

Haaland has not had a full season in the Bundesliga again rated below the EPL so on this regard inconclusive. I remember Batshuayi struggling for game time in Chelsea goes to the Bundesliga and scores 7 in 10 games.

Osimhen the world class striker and darling of many on this thread. Again playing in much lower league than the EPL French league one is not on the same level as the EPL.

Scoring 13 goals in the French league is not the same as scoring 15 in the EPL. Their age difference in not even one year, so they are more or less age mates.

In this regard what attributes does Osimhen have that even if you were to make comparison that Tega has not exceeded. So in this regard a big NO.

fufubear:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/160751-chibok-schoolgirls-u-s-will-share-military-intelligence-nigeria-officials.html

US didnt share Intel in general with Nigeria back then

You base you entire deduction on a newspaper report. Which in itself alludes to misgivings about the conduct of the Nigerian military. Considering at that time communications were spearheaded by Alex Badeh ( is there anymore to be said)

adamx23:
Seriously, I've been a silent follower and I've noticed that guy has no iota of love for this country.

Two different approaches.

You have love for mediocrity and incompetence.

I have zero tolerance for both. My expectations for the nation are different from yours. What you call love for the nation is not what l call love.

persius555:
It came as a surprise that the US had to make it public instead of through the Nigerian government. Is the US trying to clear the air on allegations in the public and social media that it is not doing enough with intelligence sharing?

Why would the USA have to resort to public channels to give information to Nigeria.

Does the possibility exist that after several intelligence information briefs to the Nigerian government. There has been no commensurate response to mitigate against the situations raised.

I think we should look at ourselves.

There were claims that when the Chibok girls were abducted USA intelligence pinpointed their location. However, the Nigerian armed forces did not act on the information.

JayromWrites:
So because Chelsea is shit makes Abraham one of the best Striker out there


He isn't even top 5 in the league

He is not even better than Martial

I agree currently and statistically speaking but then again how many under 22 young striker are better than him.❓

Apart from maybe Mbappe l don't know any or do you ❓

TheLoneCitizen:
Rohr doesn't invite by club performance, he's very faithful to his trusted players.

Then why did he leave out KC

viciati:
Baba some of the things i read here is baffling.,Abraham pressing bayerns backline. Abi no be match wey i watch yesterday.. Tammy Abraham is the worst striker we have in a decade. Alvaro morata was way better than him. Even sef the current bunch of chelsea players makes me want to tear the hair off my head. All thanks to mumu Lampard's leaning towards english fools. Our front three against bayern was terrible...Abeg water dey comot for my eye ontop chelsea matter.

Alvaro Morata came to Chelsea with a transfer fee of £60. After two seasons in the EPL his highest goal tally was 11 EPL goals.

So how exactly was he better than Tega ❓ Just in case you have forgotten he scored 15 EPL goals this season.

JayromWrites:
He should be up there with the likes of Lewy, Benzema, Haaland,Aguero and Kane

He is surely one of the best right now, that's why a 44 years old Giroud is keeping him on the bench

He is so good that Chelsea fans are already fed up... One of the Very Best indeed

Which Chelsea striker has scored more than him in the past three seasons, ❓ ❓

So if that is bad what then is good.

Joebie:
He is definitely, not probably, ONE OF THE BEST strikers in the world. But he is an English international and AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, we are not missing him in SE

He is not one of the best young strikers, you could be right, but I think he is.

But then holding on to the term striker, who is better than him currently , do you think❓

I was very impressed with another dimension to Tega game yesterday, which was, blistering pace. I know that he is very technically astute so he doesn't always use pace.

Buy yesterday he was pressing the Bayern backline with real pace very good hold up and link up play.

Unfortunately the Chelsea defence is badly organised the defenders are not particularly bad just not organised. As a result they make silly errors.

Then Barkley hugs the ball too much and does not release the ball.

omenka:
Good evening.

This piece is written in response to:

1. They unrelenting attack on the person of Bola Tinubu by PDP supporters.

2. The anti-Tinubu's opinion thread that made it to the front page earlier.

I'll be as brief as possible because there's a football match to catch.

Without a doubt, most Nigerians are already looking forward to 2023 and politicians and their strategists are already laying landmines for those they imagine would constitute the greatest stumbling block to the realization of their aspirations. To this end, PDP, even though they have yet to give the slightest hint of their flag bearer, has deployed their supporters and surrogates to initiate a relentless barrage of attacks on whom they suspect would be flying the APC's banner- Tinubu.

Nowhere is this more evident than on Nairaland.

There's a problem with this strategy and it has everything to so with human psychology.

Before the advent of the current political jousting, the Yorubas, not surprisingly, weren't as pro-Tinubu as we see them today- at least, not online. This is because they tend not to be as politically intransigent as other ethnicities in Nigeria. They couldn't care less about the intermittent jabs the man suffers, mostly from Yorubas themselves! Today, the story is totally different, no thanks to the endless attacks on his person by not only PDP supporters, but people they (Yorubas) consider OUTSIDERS.

What we are witnessing is a herd resistance to what the Yorubas consider an attack, not only on Tinubu, but on Yoruba interests. As long as the attacks aren't coming from WITHIN, the collective defence being put up for Tinubu should be expected, the staunchest of which, ironically, would come from folks who were once totally indifferent about Tinubu or whatsoever fate he suffers.

Look at it this way: when IPOB attacked Senator Ike Ekweremadu in Germany, it appeared as though most Igbos endorsed the action, with some saying Igbos are not fond of tolerating errant politicians of Igbo extraction. They applauded the perpetrators and scornfully mocked the victim. But, the moment OUTSIDERS attempted to mock and "insult" the same Ekweremadu, they were rebuffed by the same people that had mocked and insulted him!!

The counter productivity of this strategy should be obvious to PDP and her supporters by now. The more you attack and scorn Tinubu, the more Yorubas would push back, and the more the man tends to grow in popularity. I'm not sure these attacks has turned any pro-Tinubu observer to an anti-Tinubu one, but I am VERY SURE it has turned some indifferent observers into his staunch supporters.

I've no doubt in my mind we all desire a better and prosperous Nigeria, let's try and go about it the right way. Unwittingly making a hero of someone you consider a devious villain would hardly help your course. Review your strategy PDP.



God bless Nigeria.

You have personified the Nigerian REGRESSIVE MENTALITY but you then by implication promote and JUSTIFY IT.

Small minded TRIBALISTIC POLITICS and GODFATHERISM.

Joebie:
Komekn how market?

Chelsea got hammered by a very clinical and Bayern.

But Tega had an excellent game should have scored more than the one goal, first time he has had too use out and out pace in his singular pressing Chelsea did not press that well as a team.

Nonetheless, Tega confirmed himself as the probably one the best young strikers in the World.

IDENNAA:
Please, I don't mind interactions with anybody here but let's keep it civil. I don't condone unnecessary insults. Just letting you know.

Well , James Obiora might not be world class because he played mostly for Locomotive Moscow but he sure had abilities to make world class. He was one of the most classiest AM Nigeria ever produced.

Then why did he stay in the obscurity of Locomotive Moscow. Or everyone in the world is blind and you are the only one that can see his outstanding world class potential and ability.

In my opinion he was not better than Oruma

Quality does not hide..

maidaboi:
fear Chelsea fans let's Bayern do the lord job today lol

Chelsea have nothing to fear they have probably the best young striker in the World.

mostob:
I'm not saying he is rubbish but comparing him with Iwobi is criminal.

For the SE Iwobi has been very good.

However, in club football Iwobi has been inconsistent and has huge dips then a huge rise.

And Arsenal couldn't resist the money offered for a player who has promised a lot but never truly delivered.

In comparison l see nothing that Iwobi has done that Willock can not do and even surpass.

One thing I find truly baffling is that Iwobi who is us an AM has a very low goal tally. It seems Willock can shoot something that Iwobi struggles with.

mostob:
Best passing side? Seriously, So if you sign for man city today, you automatically become one of the best football passers? Don't just watch football oga,watch and UNDERSTAND.

Before you can progress to the first team Arsenal from the academy. Rest assured more than ever before you will be technically proficient.

So to say Willock is essentially rubbish is simply not true.

mostob:
Martinelli is a striker bro...and also it is easier to get assists from crosses and cut backs is Saka's case. As for that willock wey you bring,it is laughable. You can't use goals only to compare Joe with Iwobi. Arsenal are 16th in term of goalscoring chances created this season. That should tell you why we really missed Iwobi in the final third. Iwobi might be inconsistent but all your arguments were bore on hate Willock of all people? Damn

Somebody is giving a very articulate and concise explanation for his view point and your response is to say it is HATE.

Contest with him on substance, appraisal even statistics, not emotive ramblings.

mostob:
The same Willock that can not make a simple pass to save his life? And you lied about Arsenal having no problem getting rid of him. Damn! I only blame Emery. Dude really fumbled with that single transfer.

So why is he in one of the best passing sides in the EPL for decoration❓

Watching Bayer Leverkusen giving Glasgow Rangers a football lesson.

They are out of their depth and amount of huffing and puffing will blow the Leverkusen house down.

andrewbaba44:
Agreed about musa bro

People should not be suprised for musa to easily get a team in europe top 5 leagues

I very much doubt him getting picked up in EPL.

But French league a very big YES, La Liga the very poor bottom segment another big YES, and a few teams in the Bundesliga.

TheSuperNerd:
Tammy said No. I moved on. Don't know the shots you talking about unless you being generalistic to several Nigerians' reaction. I understand even whites got involved when he began playing poorly for Chelsea and using that to racially abuse him. Now that's very wrong and immoral.

Back to Nigerians, Nigerians would always react. If Saka perhaps eventually says no today, expect another round of reaction from Nigerians. Nigerians generally don't handle rejection very well I'm afraid. Made my very good friend, TheGoodJoe fly to FINLAND to begin the process of becoming a "FINNISH CITIZEN" one time coz he was "FINNISHED" BY Billing's rejection and his toying with us. Lol

But as for me... I don't take these things to heart at all. I just see it as their choice and move on. Afterall, it is their lives and careers. Also, our national team isn't dead b'cos of their No.




And yes, eventually Osimhen proved himself the better player. He bagged 18 goals + 6 assists in all comps despite having 10 league games to play.
Tammy had a whole season and fell short by 1. He bagged 17 goals + 6assists. Also an impressive return overall but compared to a player who bagged more goals with 10 league matches to spare and couldn't play in them as the league got ended prematurely and refused to return like the others, then surely it shows one is definitely of a higher class. Finito.

When we talk about top goal scorers in general we talk about league games. Why because it is level playing field to assess ability.

In general cup games are not used because the quality of the opposition is not constant, with huge variations in quality.

That's why a lot of cup games with low quality opposition will be given to bench warmers or players returning from injury. Indeed Manchester United just played LASK and fielded 8 teenage debutants.

So when we make a comparison we use a balanced measurement.

The EPL is on a different level to the French league and scoring 15 goals in the EPL is a lot harder than scoring 13 in the French league. This is a simple fact.

No French Striker has left the French league and has been able to immediately replicate thier goal tally in the EPL.

JayromWrites:
They have their reasons

You know better than Fuchs and Ndidi?

Do they know more than the entire coaching staff at Leicester all KC past managers and present manager.

As well as all of his current team mates.

Finally, what else do you expect Ndidi to say, no matter what the truth is.

JayromWrites:
Sylvester Emeka Igbonu while speaking to Brila Yesterday said and i paraphrase "I got a call from Sunday Oliseh while at Denmark, he said he saw my CLIPS and felt i will add something to the super eagles"

People watch Clips Bro

Even though i also feel it's not the best way of ascertaining how good a player is

It depends on how the clips are made.

For instance, if l want to find out about a player I'll go to the club video analyst. And say give 10 minutes 10 minute clips of Nnamdi Brown. I can then have a good idea about the player, what he die with the ball and what he does when he doesn't have the ball.

Finally, knowing how things work in Nigeria and Oliseh penchant for players deals through his preferred agent. That's not a good example to justify clips in professional football management.

But clips that people talk about predominantly here it seems are the clips based on a collection of games compressed into a clip or clips.

TheLoneCitizen:
Former Captain of Austria National team, Christian Fuchs has labelled Iheanacho "The Best Penalty Taker I've Seen".

Fuchs, at 34, is one of the oldest active players in the league and has played in 8 different teams in his career yet rates Iheanacho as an unbelievable penalty taker.

In his club career, Iheanacho has only played two penalties. And yes, he scored both.

So it seems that Christian Fuchs know a lot better than Pep, Shakespeare, Puel and Brendan.

TheSuperNerd:
Elohor Ekpolo starts for BK Hacken vs Norrkoping.
While, 18yrs old Midfielder, Ishaq Abdulrazak of Norrkoping starts from the bench.



Also in the Swedish Allsvenskan, 20yrs old highly rated Youngster, Alhassan Yusuf starts for IFK Goteborg vs Ostersunds FK (Jordan Attah's former side).

I remember him very well.

He came highly recommended but could not cut it in league one with kick and rush Fleetwood town.

A lot of players that can't make it even at English non league consider the Nordic leagues as an option.

TheLoneCitizen:
Eric Garcia is close to a move from Manchester City to Barcelona to replace Pique.

That means Adarabioyo might be back up striker for Manchester City. The player has been talking tough about breaking into the first team, wants to be EPL and UCL winner as well as club captain in 5 years. All this after a fine loan spell at Blackburn.

At this rate Nigeria might find it difficult to poach him.

I know that you've made a mistake because you know Tosin is a defender.