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Meanwhile it is Fulham Vs Brentford.

Game is going to be tough and the prize is EPL football. If Fulham win then Tega will be very shortly in the SE.

Manchester United are playing Astana with the youngest team in Manchester United history.

7 teenagers some are debutants Nigerian origin player Gomez is playing and Lingard has scored.

Edopesin:
Seems the new trend here is to insult someone and apologize only after the other person starts firing back so that people will coarse him to do the same

It's funny we all know the real culprits here but still caution those that were at the receiving end

There's a very bold gap between throwing point blank/outright insults and joking around, You cannot always hide behind "Joking around"

Peace

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Agreed without reservation

Philosopher1979:
If onyekuru does not make it at monaco its not his fault. He has simply not been given a chance.
Monaco is a club suffering from serious administrative problems and they seem confused.

Srcondly the fact that a player is in a low club or league does not make him worse than someone in a better club or league. All those European coaches are simply wicked with African players. Beign born in Europe simply gives one priviledges. A player in croatia may be better than one in England its just opportunity.
Top 5 league mentality is overrated. It has happened and will happen many times in football that a country with average players eill defeat a so called world class team. The average players were simply not given a chance.
This league and club rating is good but immature.
I know people will disagree but its the truth. Someone like Tolu Arokodare may become the best in 5 years. Football is a funny game. I have said my own

I will say it again, where Onyekuru is concerned you have no right to play, you EARN THE RIGHT TO PLAY. Unfortunately Onyekuru has to do more and or has not done enough.

Francophone African countries have direct access to the French league and other European countries league directly from local leagues. So your proposition that European coaches are wicked with African players is simply not true.

In reality the French have been very generous, l do not know for sure but it seems there are more African origin players in the French league than white. Think about it.

Privilege I would not say that player born in Europe have undue privilege. There are laws and we have to work within the law.

If Europe has invested in infrastructure and many African governments have decides to steal public funds and rape the public purse. Is that the fault of Europe. As a result investment in football is meagre.

We have more EPL fans in Nigeria following every game, they know all the players in a team even some in the youth team. Ask these same people to name just 5 players in a local team they may not know. Some people do know the names of our local teams in the NPFL.

Not too long ago AFC Wimbledon and Newport County both beat EPL teams. Does that make them better. No it does not. So if we beat Argentina once do we really believe we are better. It's not so simplistic.

Finally, you do not know the challenges African origin players have to overcome to get to where they are. All the people making decisions are white and most have perceptive and subjective based preference for blue eyed kids.

Subzero047:
Yeah you know every profferessional scout in UK but I said what I said

It's absolutely impossible to know them all.

Don't forget each EPL club will have at a very least 100 scouts at differing levels.

So knowing a few in each club is not particularly important and or impressive.

And it's one thing to know them, but are you just an associate or are you in partnership. In addition scouts get grade, the HO recruitment is far more influential than just a mere scout in theory and general practice.

Bur then there are individuals who are close to the manager and have much more influence than the scouts. For instance when the sons of Sam Allardyce and Alex Ferguson sons were agents. It was very obvious who you needed to contact to get into the club.

Some managers completely side line thier recruitment heads so it's not so simplistic.

But one thing is intrinsically clear nobody is looking at YouTube videos to do player recruitment.

Subzero047:
I don't have time for all your long talk, scouts look at players from youtube clips believe it or not

Maybe in Nigeria.

But not any professional scout l know and know more than a hundred in the UK.

I could add more but then it would be considered posturing by some here and me pretending.

sheyishemba:
Then am sorry I won't be able to answer your question I cant ascertain whether a player that clocked 400 minutes+ with a goal is spectacular or not ...me saying he is spectacular is my opinion.Thank you

Well I can answer it for you he is not spectacular. I watched him several times in training and seen him in a few games.

And he is level headed young man as well, he will have a good career but he is not going to be world class, IMO.

Subzero047:
This guy you think football starts and ends in the EPL, when a scout hears about a player for the first time where do you think he goes?

YouTube clips do not give you exhaustive profile of a player but they can offer certain insights into player attributes like style of play, speed etc

Wow you really do not have an idea of how things work in Europe.

I know Roma and Ajax are monitoring players in EPL clubs who are not even 12 yet. One of them has already got sports deal sponsorship. By the way they are Nigerian origin.

There is huge network of scouts that go to games across Europe. There are too many to mention youth tournament organised by the elite teams of Europe, from U8 to 19.

Years ago Malcom Elias head of recruitment at Fulham. He was at Liverpool, then Southampton. He is very experienced over thirty plus years in the game.

Where did l meet him at a game with the Nigerian U18 all stars that Fashanu had brought over from Abuja to play Manchester United and City. U 18 teams. Why was he there because l invited him.

But to do that they had to play my team first, unfortunately the players were good but not organised and Fashanu is not a great coach.

They lost 8-1.


Langley from United was there too, he has left United now.

These guys are the heads of recruitment and they still attend games looking for the next Mbappe. They don't sit in office watching YouTube.

The environment is somewhat subterfuge with each team spying out each others prospects future and present.

BascoVanVeli:
Okay I am all ears, prove that he is not considered a serious prospect.

The player himself confirmed that he was supposed to be in preseason with the team. If u want to call him a lie then that is your own.

I will not prove to you.

You can take it or leave it.

charlesemeka85:
According to reporting by Spanish sports daily AS, former Chelsea defender Kenneth Omeruo is among three CD Leganes players being tipped for the exit door this summer, the others being Jonathan Silva and Siovas.

Leganes are looking to get Omeruo off the wage bill after losing their top-flight status at the end of the 2019-2020 season.

The former Golden Eaglets and Flying Eagles star is aware that sticking with Leganes would diminish his chances of being invited to the senior national team by manager Gernot Rohr, and look no further than the case involving Simeon Tochukwu Nwankwo who lost his spot to Paul Onuachu after Crotone were demoted to the Serie B.

Omeruo joined Leganes permanently last summer for a fee of five million euros, making him the second most expensive signing in Leganes history.

Los Pepineros may find it difficult to recoup their investment in the Nigerian considering that he's now valued at 2.4 million euros by transfer market experts.

Since his La Liga debut, Omeruo has one goal to his name and was in action for 4,312 minutes - across 51 matches, forty-nine of which he started.

Considering the bold and the very limited funds that is club that cannot compete in the upper half of the Championship.

Look at Stokes team sheet and value and they struggled in the Championship.

Now many just don't appreciate that better footballers follow the better money.

Subzero047:
There are a lot of scouts that depend on youtube compilations if you don't know

You may think I am being conceited and or telling lies.

But l probably know or have engaged with the recruitment teams of at least 70% of all the EPL clubs. And that's my perspective European football.

And I can assure you nobody uses YouTube videos to make player recruitment.

Clubs will start right from age grade competitive football then academy football to create a profile of a player.

So before the player signs professional everyone know who he is. For instance all the outstanding 12 year old players are already known to clubs. Thry monitor them from year to year to see thier progression. I know of clubs who have bought players at 11 years old. From other clubs.

I know of clubs that have brought players from North America to the UK EPL clubs at age 13.

Presenting a player profile will never have s YouTube clip as a basis. All academy games in category 1 academies have games video recorded right from age 9 sometimes younger.

Finally, l never give clubs video footage of a collection of games all compressed into 7 minutes of footage more or less. It's always singular individual games compressed into 6/7 minutes more or less in individual video clips. So what is presented is a number of individual games clips that gives a more rounded view and is very difficult to contrive.

Subzero047:
It depends on the marketing ability of his agent, I don't think he would have gone to Galatasaray and now thinking of Olympiacos with what he has done in the Belgian league if he had a good agent

In all honesty it depends on who his agents knows.

Football is environment where conflict of interest does not get into the agenda. I have known many players signed to clubs because the Manager shares the same agent as the player.

Subzero047:
Leicester are really serious about selling Iheanacho

Crystal Palace, Burnley and Fulham(on the premise that they go up) are interested

Have my doubts about that.

BascoVanVeli:
U are not klopp so u can't say that.

He almost died on the pitch, which one is who couldn't finish a season? The u miss the part that the ref had to stick a finger in his mouth to enable him breathe?

The decision is not singular, the report given to Klopp by the loan players assessment is what will direct his decision.

I can assure you he is not considered a serious prospect for Liverpool to be diplomatic.

Subzero047:
Awoniyi's agent should lobby for him to join one of the promoted German or Italian teams he may revive his career from there

He should start by having a good compilation on youtube

Clubs do not look at YouTube clips as a basis for player selection, well at least the professional clubs l know.

TheGoodJoe:
Mourinho wins games by strict strategic discipline. He scarifices the flare of the game and sticks to the basics of sitting deep and nullifying threats.

He has mastered the basics of the game and applies it perfectly well.

However, when it comes to the tactical evolution football is taking which was greatly pushed by Guardiola, Mourinho is lacking. He seems to me like a drowning man, trying to hold on to what is left of his compact strategy to stay afloat.

However, the younger ones are learning fast. Studying the masters and with time, I doubt Mourinho will keep up.

From Spain, Germany, France, Belgium, even Austria, we are seeing modern tactical minds springing up. Which are more ahead in the tactical sense than what Mou has to offer.

Mourinho is a very apt tactical manager great at strategy and team cohesion, etc

However, he is ZERO on player development and is unable to improve players and increase thier capacity.

In this regard Brendan Rogers leaves Mourinho in the dark, when it comes to player development.

andrewbaba44:
With zouma and rudiger? Continue

Even Johnny Evans and soynucu pair are better than those carpenters

When people say things like this I get confused �, because if you call these guys carpenters.

What then will you call our entire range of CB's. Omeruo, Balogun and Awaziem❓ Apprentice carpenter's ❓ ❓

And when I call them below average very basic l am called a HATER of Nigerian homegrown players as some call them.

bidexiii:
You’re funny dude. Are you saying the Governor his unpatriotic or you’re joking Samuel ?

Either in these thread or out there, we all know that there are and there would always be sabotage’s.

Sarcasm.

Edopesin:
Let them go through lingard's page before talking about Iwobi

Nonsense fans mtcheew

We are talking about Everton and for Everton that is a huge transfer fee and they expect a better return.

And you can't expect them to be looking at Lingard and then become satisfied. Lingard is also a Manchester United academy product that cost nothing.

Iwobi has a lot to prove in his club career there is no other way too look at it.

Subzero047:
Wow this is an extremely complicated deal

Is is not, it's very common practice players exchange, perfomance related increments, etc.

The only thing that's unusual but not surprising is HERE people are adding it all together futuristic and otherwise as well as Inter related costings to say he is the most expensive transfer in Africa.

In general when transfers are made we talk about the transfer fee alone in isolation not the additions.

So in the table we have one set of measurements unique to Victor but then use the standard stand alone transfer fee for everyone else. It's very understandable practice here.

For me the transfer fee is irrelevant but more reasonable taken alone. And that means the expectations will not be OVER THE TOP for such a young player with a lot to learn.

Because if he doesn't hit the ground running and or he doesn't perform to the expectations of a top striker. Very quickly the narrative will change here like camelions.

In my opinion if he can score 15/16 goals in Seria A this season he would have done very well. However, I fear the expectations for him here are over the top ( top goal scorer in Seria A) as well as with Napoli, but not as much, Napoli will be very satisfied with 20+ I think.


I hope he does well and builds his career even more than all expectations.

All is not lost for Chelsea.

They still have the chance to beat Bayern Munich and win the Cup.

andrewbaba44:
Your tears will be so beautiful at the end of the game

Auba will score a brace

You got that absolutely correct.

Aubmeyang is world class.

Chei !!! Arsenal messing up again.

1-0 down.

andrewbaba44:
Arsenal let’s do it boys

Like to see Arsenal win, but it's too evenly matched to make any predictions.

I could end in penalties and a lot of crying for one team that doesn't make it through.

ocelot2006:
I thought I was the only person that noticed the whole f@&k up called close protection during the incident involving the Borno State Governor. Embarrassment is an understatement. They left the Governor so exposed that at I point the Governor was left standing while the DSS agents with their Tavor rifles took cover behind the Governor's legs. The so called Police CTU officers couldn't even bundle the Governor into the safety of the APC and whisk him away. Rather the whole team kept the Governor in the firefight for a considerable period of time. In my opinion it was a MAJOR EMBARRASSMENT.

These kind of incidents open up a whole can of worms.

Look at the chaos and total disorder with no sense of professionalism and structure to what they were doing.

What was the threat, from what l could hear maybe not more than 6/7 misguided elements shooting their AK47's. And look at the terror based fearful response and complete loss of control and zero situational awareness as well as OFFENSIVE response.

Holding that thought, imagine just 3/4 Boko rickety gun trucks had engaged the convoy.

Can you imagine the utter carnage they would have rained on the Governor and his entourage. The chaos would have been off the scale combatants would probably run leaving the Governor to be captured.

Now we an insight into NA response to what should be routine ambushes and or enemy skirmishes. It doesn't look good AT ALL.

sheyishemba:
Folarin is on point he is on the verge of joining Brentford

He would have been better going on loan. Then making a a name for himself. His value will go up and also first team opportunity will become a reality in Arsenal.

He may go to Brentford but there is no guarantee of first team football.

Reading Sky sports transfer portal and the information they are giving about Victor Osimhen transfer fee, is completely different from what l am reading here.

I did say cannot understand why we have so much conflicting information about this one transfer.

Strange a lot of drama before and a lot of drama afterwards agents dispute and the actual transfer fee.

Well with time these things always come out eventually.

I have heard of this Folarin and he has been good at youth level. But can he make the step up to the senior game.

He is being impatient, my advice he should go on loan to another club Championship and or lower positioned EPL club. If he or performs then his position will be completely different.

And £8 million for a player who has done nothing seems high and over the top.

A certain Chuba Akpom comes to mind great at youth level but largely impotent at senior level after several loans.

Righteousness89:
He has made a very Valid Point!

Government should Tread Carefully...

Its Foolishness to Contend with GOD in any form or way..

It's High Folly!

The church building is not God and over blown self seeking pastors and self appointed pastor are not God.

Where two or more are gathered in his name, he is there.

Let every man --- but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Phil.2:12

andrewbaba44:
Tammy is doing well nah ,e no make sense to Dey drag am ,oya why you no drag Tammy ?

Why are you get to speak bad about Tammy ?

If a naija player scores 15 epl goals omo e no go fit do wrong for our eyes on this thread

I don mention azubuike here before saying that if he is playing well for his club then he can be invited but many people insulted him saying he is playing in Turkey expecially Charles emeka even t baba self say the guy no 2 Dey play ,I told them that if he is fantastic he should be but then write am off ,thou he is still yet to be fantastic that will make the coach invite him sha

What about nwakaeme ? Almost all of una sabi write am off just because of 1 game

Nwakali is not playing well so we understand that one bros

But is Tammy flopping ? No ,you suppose know say me I sabi yab those British born but if I see truth I go talk and I no go Dey bias

I can’t tel anyone to stop yabbing nwakali because he isn’t doing well bro and I hope he get back to his best

No be me Dey yab solanke de always call am waste man ?

What’s stopping you from trolling Tammy if I may ask ?

Bros be sincere Biko

I don't think anyone is yabbing Nwakali but it's the sensationalism and ludicrous over hype for a player that has done nothing in 5 years.

Anchoring projected excellence on historical youth football exploits.

These same people will then say others are being biased when players who have done way more are talked about on this forum.

It's simple double standard and hypocrisy.

TheSuperNerd:
All this long talk. My point is simple. Since we have people here who won't leave Nwakali and Zubby alone despite gaining promotion to la liga on his return to football and winning the Turkish league title respectively then let those who won't leave Tammy alone have their say. Afterall, last time I checked, it's no crime to compare players of same position. There was a time both strikers were compared here and it was debated. So why is it a problem now?

One finished with 17 goals in all competitions playing 45 games or so and had a full season + a cup final to play today.

The other bagged 18 goals in all competitions despite having about 10 games to play in the league.

So, let them have their say.

And I don't troll b'cos I would rather give my time to our players. Simple as that. But trust me, trolling is easy... I just decided not to. My stand on our players have been vindicated so many times for many to see just as Komekn has been proven wrong so many times on our lads. So no need to troll. Finito.

I have not been proven wrong ONCE especially not by you and you over sensationalism and over hype of players. And you creation of inconsequential divides between Nigerian origin players in Europe and your definition of Nigerian home grown players.

Maybe in your perception birthed from your own notions. Not once have you proven me wrong.

You are the con always taking things out of context and then pushing a false narrative.

With regards to Victor my comments are always in CONTEXT of THAT TIME and in response to an issue, contention or information raised prior to my post.

Subzero047:
It seems Iwobi is getting the Arsenal treatment all over again

You can manipulate statistics and attempt to present a narrative that maybe acceptable here even believable.

However, move it to another forum and what we claim here as commendable is comdemnable by other fans.

At SE level Iwobi has been very good not neccesarily excellent but very good.

At club level he has not had the expected impact and to Everton fans he has been underwhelming.