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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:10pm On Jul 29, 2020

Joebie:
Stand up!

When he went toe to toe with Dominic Iorfa that waa the day l said he has ARRIVED.

He was able to bully Dominic for a header and score. That's when l said this small boy has arrived. I had been seeing him at City as one small lanky boy from age 13.

Small pikin don turn Man.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:06pm On Jul 29, 2020

Joebie:
i think it's time to hit the ignore button. This type need deliverance

Agreed without reservation or question

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:05pm On Jul 29, 2020

charlesemeka85:
rangers were the only team that showed real hunger in having him. also for a league 1 player the offer he got from rangers was a juicy one which was too good to turn down.

dude was also assured by gerard that he will be in his first team and also gets 20k pounds weekly at rangers. with time he will move

Actually there were a number of Championship clubs, but somehow Gerard convinced him and he was looking at long term progression.

But

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:56pm On Jul 29, 2020

elyte89:
When it comes to player discovery...nobody comes close to thesupernerd,followed by tbaba

I actually knew Maja and Asoro when they were at Sunderland and Maja when he was at City.

What do you mean by player discovery huh

❓

Do you know how many Nigerian origin players that I know from age 12 upwards in multiples football academies across the UK currently.

Dem too plenty.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:51pm On Jul 29, 2020

Joebie:
Well I don't know if anyone mentioned him prior to my post as I don't read every page on this thread. But like I said the first to mention the player is not necessarily the first to know the player. No need for the apologies my bro!

Modified
From my search, it seems Charlesemeka85 was the first to mention his name on this thread. Then I followed days after.

THANK YOU

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:50pm On Jul 29, 2020

sheyishemba:
yh am new here
I have been here since 2016 created my first account in 2018

This current trajectory seems infantile, what is it about.

"Na me first see am, na me first talk am"

Nobody really discovers players unless you are a football club scout or similar.

Should l now post every single Nigerian origin players in the Academies of multiple clubs in the EPL and Championship. So I can be the first to mention him here, that would be very childish.

Then add all the Nigerian origin players who are in the non league system and semi professional leagues.

I only talk about players l consider to be prospects for the SE.

That become problematic because l used the term, " l consider " My approach is not potential but HERE and NOW not potential future.

Meanwhile we have hundreds of players being mentioned in daily basis playing in the most obscure leagues almost beyond imagination. That is where our issues are we don't seem to have clear standards.

But there is one constant that is continous and that's FAVORITISM.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:59pm On Jul 29, 2020

elunico:
Osayi is no threat to anybody in the present team, there's nothing he can offer that those we have can't. He's not better than Bonaventure let alone.

I actually had that thought about him two seasons ago, but not anymore.

One thing that gets players noticed is when you are outstanding in your league then you step up to a higher league and club.

That's what's happening with Osayi.

Football is about continous progression if you are not progressing somebody else will take your place.

In that context there should be continous competition for places, that creates better quality in the team.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:28pm On Jul 29, 2020

IDENNAA:
Again , get this into your mind. Nwakali is a Nigerian born and bred talent. He has privilege , rights and advantage Onomah enjoys in England. The English will not furnish Nwakali with these benefits. Henceforth , we will take care of our own, firstly.

You should be ashamed of yourself your views are retrogressive and backward.

These are the views and practices that have caused the stifling of our nations progression on all fronts.

These are myopic and damaging views upon which TRIBALISM, FAVORITISM, NEPOTISM, RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION are anchored upon.

You are the embodiment of the NIGERIAN PROBLEM.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:21pm On Jul 29, 2020

sheyishemba:
Bro it his choice many people here hype home breed players (awon komekn ibile) so you can't tell him to asses other players, to him he might see thoses players he assess as a prospect like I've said earlier it his choice

Maybe l don't like whimsical assessment from superficial understanding.

As a consequence l would rather talk about the players that l have seen in depth much more than the ones l have not.

It's very simple.

For me to go into depth about a player in Albania or Sweden that l haven't watched in any depth. Will not be true and or particularly fair and objective.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:17pm On Jul 29, 2020

BascoVanVeli:

See all these dictionary insults for nothing. I have no problem with anything u said. All I said was to maintain that same energy when you assess other players.

Energy is not the right word.

I gave you an insight into how l have come to my deductions with regards to Tega.

That elaborate insight should answer the question for you.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:15pm On Jul 29, 2020

Icon4s:
Oga are you trying to say you are not aware that Etebo Left the Championship for Getafe in January this year?

Or what point are you trying to prove by that Question?

He played quite a few games before the January window, l want to presume.

And that should give some statistical insight into his perfomances before he left for Getafe.

Unless their is a minimum number of games required for an aggregate perfomance assessment to be made statistically speaking.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:11pm On Jul 29, 2020

elyte89:
Go and invite him with ur own list

What's your point do you think there are better players huh

❓

Because without prejudice l don't really see any that come to mind.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:25am On Jul 29, 2020

Joebie:
TOP PLAYERS (NIGERIANS) BASED ON CLEARANCES IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Clearances
1. Tosin Adarabioyo (#26) -- 161
2. Dominic Iorfa (#29) -- 150
3. Semi Ajayi (#34) -- 139

These are amazing statistics.

Why because they prove what we have seen on the ground.

Tega l have described as the complete midfielder, an ability to tackle and attack which is very rare as well as control the game with his vision and passing range.

He also has stupendous stamina but also the physicality to deal with anything.

He can be a DM then he becomes a CM then he turns into AM all in the same game.

In his current form there are few players comparable in the context of Nigeria. If he gets to the EPL and he maintains this level of consistent perfomance. Then he will be in the top level.

Nigeria should cap him NOW no need to wait.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:18am On Jul 29, 2020

andrewbaba44:
At least they where stars at mancity so you don’t expect sancho to break in

Solanke that’s playing in the epl is he good enough is he even better than sancho ?

Gnabry will start for almost all epl teams now ,you saw how he disgrace spurs

I rest my case

I always time limit my deductions with the term AT THAT TIME.

Solanke has zero relevance to the discussion.

With regards to Gnabri l agree.

My deductions are very simple it's very difficult for young players to get opportunity to develop in the EPL. You have to be absolutely outstanding to get those opportunities.

It is much easier to get that opportunity to develop and improve in the Bundesliga comparative to the EPL.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:14am On Jul 29, 2020

benji93:
You are not wrong. I mentioned that. But when your team performs badly the null hypothesis is your stategy has been terrible. Ofcourse it would be wrong not the factor other things in our determination of howm uch blame you deserve.

Essentially irrespective of all excuses at the end of the day the BUCK STOPS WITH THE MANAGER.

If they win all the glory is taken by the Manager it's vice versa with failure too.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:10am On Jul 29, 2020

Joebie:
TOP DRIBBLERS (NIGERIAN)
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Successful Dribbles
1. Ebere Eze (#1) -- 136
2. Ovie Ejaria (#3) -- 112
3. Bright Osayi (#4) -- 106
4. Sammy Ameobi (#5) -- 99

Wow !!! This shows the Nigerian DNA we like skill, showboating, Technical football, etc.

At times we forget about end product and emphasis on skills and dribbling. It's got to be focused with an end product.

But the players above l feel have got that understanding and as such have a good number of assists and key passes.

Something that players coming out of the Nigerian football system do not always appreciate.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:04am On Jul 29, 2020

andrewbaba44:
Oga sancho is yet to play in the epl before joining the bundesliga

So you go follow call gnabri flop ?

Reiss Nelson is not a regular at arsenal compared to when he was at hoffenheim

See dude when you want make this comparison at least this players should have game time in the epl then you will confirm that they flopped before you talk ,you are just speaking of guys who didn’t have game time

You are a very bad analyst

They did not game time in the EPL because they were not good enough.

But went to the Bundesliga and excelled immediately.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:02am On Jul 29, 2020

BascoVanVeli:
I don't want the story of ur life. All I want is for u to maintain the same energy u used to rate said player with other guys.

If you can not deduce rational from what l have presented, to explain your retort.

Then I have nothing to say, your mind is closed and your pre- conceived notions blind you to any other considerations.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:55am On Jul 29, 2020

Joebie:
TOP NIGERIANS IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP (RANKED based on WhoScored Ratings)
Rank (Overall rank)

1. Eberechi Eze (#4)
2. Ovie Ejaria (#20)
3. Tosin Adarabioyo (#53)
4. Sammy Ameobi (#63)
5. Semi Ajayi (#96)
6. Bright Osayi Samuel (#100)
7. Dominic Iorfa (#113)
8. Josh Onomah (#158)
9. Luke Amos (#294)
10. Adedeji Oshilaja (#315)

Cc Komekn

Where is Etebo.

If somebody asked that Sammy Ameobi should be considered, l am sure there will be outcry but there are players playing in the very dark backwaters of football Latvia, Albania that people will talk about without any opposition and or ridicule.

In reality statistics are indicative and not conclusive.

Nonetheless, we converge our knowledge of a player with what we have seen on the field of play to make a more holistic and objective appraisal of ability.

What the statistics do show, however is CONSISTENCY.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:51am On Jul 29, 2020

Joebie:
Josh Oghenetega Peter Onomah is named to the WhoScored Championship PlayOff XI (SF First-Leg)
The highest rated outfield player.

Meanwhile they will say one is biased.

Now compare the obsessive fixation and over hype associated with Nwakali, who has done absolutely nothing for 5 years beyond U17 football.

Then l will be accused of favoritism towards Nigerian origin players in the UK.

It's hypocritical double-standard as well as unguarded prejudiced and negative bias towards Nigerian players not considered to be "homegrown" in the context of Nigerian football.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:42am On Jul 29, 2020

benji93:
You are not wrong. I mentioned that. But when your team performs badly the null hypothesis is your stategy has been terrible. Ofcourse it would be wrong not the factor other things in our determination of howm uch blame you deserve.

I am talking perception and the cultural dynamics of management.

Management being subjective in its assessment in comparison to player assessment / measurement which is far less forgiving.

Again there are several variables, does the Chairman and or board like the Manager and is more inclined to over look failings and shortcomings.

That's my view and experience.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:42am On Jul 29, 2020

andrewbaba44:
Lol so martial was bought from the french league and made in the epl?

Comedian

How many years in the EPL ❓ he was a mere teenager when he came 5 years ago to Manchester United , with a big price.

That's the context in which l say he was made in the EPL.

A bit like Thierry Henry when he cam to Arsenal.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:39am On Jul 29, 2020

Joebie:
Add to those Michael Olise

Agreed.

Them plenty oh across the English football academies, on the verge of breaking into the first team.

For some reason not too many striker have come out to show face.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:36am On Jul 29, 2020

andrewbaba44:
He is not better than auba no doubt but he is prolific as auba in the bundesliga

You are just trying to make a case for tammy and nothing else

Timo is better than almost all top strikers in the epl apart from people like Vardy Kane aguero auba and some few others i forget to mention

I rate the epl more than the bundesliga but you dont need to look down on others league most times

Should i remind you that martial is now doing well in the epl than he did in the french league

I disagree he was made in the EPL but cam from the French league, it's been how many seasons of learning and development? ❓

I am just stating facts that's why all these look up to the EPL. You should stop looking up to the EPL lol.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:34am On Jul 29, 2020

benji93:
What! What is your argument? That a bad season doesn't make the audience doubt your abilities? I am not understanding you. It's in the process you find out what share of the blame you deserve.

Managers are given more leeway.

So for instance a manager may fail on one club but all the variables will be taken into account.

And the manager given more of the benefit of doubt.

Which a player will not get.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:27am On Jul 29, 2020

peterd53:
Edin dzeko
Son heug
Vincent kompany
Michael ballack
Sane
Pulisic
Berbatorv
Hamman
Gundogan
Roscisky
Lehman

Do u still need more?

You should look comprehend then respond.

The pertinent qualifying diction used is STRIKER and REPLICATE goal tally.

How many of them are strikers❓

Dzeko has never been able to replicate his goal tally in the Bundesliga when he played for Man City in the EPL. Son is debatable because he has been in the EPL for five season so you cannot really day he has come from the Bundesliga. The only exception is Pulisic.

So we need more to disprove my assertion.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:17am On Jul 29, 2020

Edopesin:
Unintelligent ramblings, you could have just ignored

Who deh follow craze man fight him sef deh craze.

People with vitriolic rancourous rhetoric should have one response TOTAL SILENCE.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:14am On Jul 29, 2020

benji93:
Yes a bad season negates previous good seasons(not fully). It gives one a reason to rethink the opinion that you are the real deal.

That's not the case with Managers more so with players.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:11am On Jul 29, 2020

mank1234:
It's easier for African French players to make it in Europe compared to their English counterpart. It doesn't mean they are better in terms of quality. The reason is because, they are easily absorbed in France because of their policy of assimilation; from there getting to other European countries is easy.

Quality for quality we are better.

Agreed.

However, talent and quality are not constants but variables that change upwards and or downwards depending what is invested.

These French pkayers come to French league one clubs direct from their local leagues in Francophone countries.

They immediately get the better training and development and begin to improve. Before our local league players navigate the crooked agents, and all the other issues from Nigeria to European league football, thier youth is already expired. Irrespective of what official age is on thier passport.

Finally they sometimes start at the most backward league in Europe and take years to get to a better league.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:05am On Jul 29, 2020

charlesemeka85:
saw it on qpr's tweeter handle few minutes ago

Plenty time deh and a lot of Maradona moves before he will decide where to go.

That's the first price offer, somebody may come in much higher. Let's watch the drama play out, Eze is now very very hot property.

And some people will say he is not good enough for the SE.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:03am On Jul 29, 2020

charlesemeka85:
and how sure are you that Nwakali will perform well in laliga next season? Atleast we hv felt aribo's impact in the few caps he got for the national team and already is a top performer in the Scottish league and the uel.

Is Huesca better than rangers? Aribo made the leap to the Scottish top tier from English third tier and bossed the league. Okay I accept that the Scottish league isn't strong enough but what about his performances in the uel so far?

Bros no dey allow sentiment and favoritism blind your sense of judgment. No sane coach will even drop etebo or azeez for a misfit like Nwakali judging by current form let alone aribo who has been good so far for the super eagles.

If Nwakali can't stake a claim in Porto B's starting 11 I doubt if he will make rangers 1st team let alone their bench

Being in a top league does not automatically make you a top player. You can be anonymous and almost a spectator.

I would rather have the most outstanding consistent players in the Championship than a players in a moi moi team in La Liga who has done nothing and will do nothing.

Eze, Tega and Ovie are outstanding players in thier league.

You could add Iorfa and Adarabioyo to that list in the context of defence. And on the wing we have Osayi coming in to stake a claim.

Finally, Scottish Premiership league may have a low rating. however the club Rangers has a much much higher rating than Huesca in European club ratings.

If you have the time look at the players and value of Sunderland and Hulls players and compare to Huesca and you will see gap that will suprise. And these are essential league one clubs now.

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:55pm On Jul 28, 2020

IDENNAA:
Eze is not Nigeria while Iwobi has failed as a midfielder

This is shocking.

Iwobi has failed as a Midfielder but Nwakali has been outstanding and is better.

There is misplaced bias and there sheer utter DISRESPECT.

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