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Danielnino00:
I see what u are trying to do..

U wanna raise the bar higher for Umar, isn't it.? He is currently the 5th joint top scorer in the Serbian league with 7 goals and 8 assists!!

If you were in the Eredivisie that may be reasonable but not in a league rated 20 in Europe.

It's progress from the abyss he was in before but not good enough for the SE. That's if we want to pursue excellence and not mediocrity.

Hopefully next season he moves to a higher league and his progression continous. If it doesn't then he remain where he is.

No bar has been lifted if anything the bar is being lowered unfairly to accommodate him by many here.

So what do you see me trying to do please❓

Danielnino00:
He even ranks the English league 1 on par with the Serbian league... Red star Belgrade beat Liverpool last year o..

Manchester United got rolled over by MK Dons 4-0 in 2014 in the FA cup.

Newport County league one club beat Leicester City also in the FA cup.

Does it mean these clubs from lower division are now better? According to you yes. ❓

By the way Liverpool flogged them back to thier level 4-0.

Serbian league is rated about 20 places below the EPL. That makes it considerably lower than the Championship by rational projection.

How much does the league generate and how much is the most expensive players in the league and what the get paid

Compare your findings with the English league one. Better Players generally follow the money.

Rethink your misguided assumptions.

timay:
I agree with your second paragraph ofcourse.

England only deal with players in form. So if he gets better, he will get into the squad again.

This is the reality of England.

If you are not on form you loose your position, Quarrel no deh.

Unfortunately that's not the position of the NFF.

timay:
I'm sure that was the only instance you could mention (Cameroon match), which can happen once in a while. Even the best defenders gets turned once in a while

Collins on the other hand gets turned on the regular by even the most average of wingers. Against Brazil , I just dey shame on behalf of the guy. At a point, the Brazilian team noticed that he's the weak point and Firmino and Gabriel Jesus started making use of his wings. Even a makeshift Awaziem doesn't get turned on a regular like Collins. Nigga is pathetic.

How do you know he was turned

That's a self birthed very misleading opinion without any substance whatsoever.

Stephane the Cameroon no.9 scored the first goal poor defending and positioning by Omeruo from the Cameroon cross.

Second goal was long ball from Cameroon which should have been routine defending by Omeruo but he got bullied by yes Stephane and missed a very routine clearing header.

That error left Aina who was slightly ahead of Clinton but wrong sided in a position of disadvantage as he tried to correct the error by Omeruo.

People will tell blatant lies here not sure why, l would advise dont believe everything you are told here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi-srHxsqi0

chrisooblog:
lol abi how when solanke was signed from chelsea to liverpool there was hype and celebration

How much did Liverpool pay for him for thier to be Hype and celebrations.

Danielnino00:
Kellycute doesn't need to send any screenshot. I remember vividly when u said Solanke was a better striker than Iheanacho... several times U used Solanke to downgrade Iheanacho...

Yes he does because l have called him a BLATANT ATTENTION SEEKING SHAMELESS LIAR.

And if you want to jump on his bus do it with substance not with your opinion.

l look at specifics the diction and the context in which it used to get clarity of meaning. I don't use perception. You have vividly remember wrongly.

There are two aspects ; First, Where it is alleged l called him some special talent and implied l wanted him in the SE.

Secondly, where it is alleged once again completely falsely l said Solanke is miles better than KC.

On this thread not one person has been able to substantiate thier self birthed nonsensical false presumptions.

Danielnino00:
What happened to your "Lion in a small league" proposition?
Or it doesn't apply to the players you dislike??

The proposition remains alive and totally apt.

"It's better to be a Lion in a lower league and club than an anonymous mouse in a top club and league"

If a player is playing in a moi moi league then he should absolutely blow the league away. He should be the outstanding consistent top player in that league.

That position is more pronounced if they have come from a higher league. Consider Osimhen was an anonymous mouse at Wolfsburg goes to lower league in Belguim and blows the league away. Quite rightly so he is now killing it at Lille that's progression.


As always everything in context.

You cannot compare scoring a hat trick against Barcelona to one against say Spartak Subotica.

But back to Omar is he the top goal scorer let's not be too optimistic. Is he in the top 3 ❓ Or is he got the most assists. ❓ Is he a Lion in that league.

Now let's look at Eberechi Eze the screen shot days it all. He is the LION of the Championship that says very emphatically he is ready for the EPL.

Football is crazy a few years ago Eze was released from Millwall a carpenter football club as not good enough.

ILLICITblood:
Exactly


His passport reads 27,If you don't have substantive proof to prove otherwise.. you should just shut up

It's not by big English

Only empty barrels have to be rude and uncouth.

It's very simple passport is not proof of your date of birth. It's entirely underpinned by the information you present.

Joebie:
He was denied by the bar. That’s the only strong team they came against. But overall he has been impressive in UEFA.

Don’t forget your line “Lion in the lower league...” A least we can apply that here.
League 1 or 2 is not better than the Serbian top tier. Partizan is a decent club

Unfortunately Championship teams cannot compete in the UEFA otherwise they would suprise a few established teams.

Serbian league cannot compete with the Championship. And so l place them on league one level.

How many goals has he scored in UEFA that makes him impressive? Then in his club and league is he in the top three goals scorers or let's be overly generous top 5 for such a low league.

Surprisingly the league is rated higher than the Scottish league. Now compare Glasgow Rangers and Celtic two of them were able to beat top level opposition in the name of Porto and Lazio.

Look at how consistently outstanding Aribo has been that's outstanding in my book.

Currently he has not done enough to wash away the the mediocrity that he stained himself with at Glasgow Rangers.

kellycute:
that's komekn exceptional talent o. He said Solanke is mile better than nacho hahahaha.

I challenge you in the open forum to screenshot one post not two. Where I said the bolded first of all.

Secondly, where l said Solanke is SPECIAL TALENT.

Or confirm your self as an attention seeking SHAMELESS BLATANT LIAR.

I have met Solanke and said this many moons ago that he has zero affinity with anything Nigerian. And is not a prospect for the SE.

This is very Infantile thinking.

darkelf:
Who is still defending Solanke in this day and age

Please ask him

darkelf:
Faculty of Carpentry

List of Staff Members

Dean: Ogenyi Onazi

Subdean: Anderson Esiti

HOD: Mikel Agu

Professor: Anthony Nwakaeme

Associate Prof: Onuachu

Senior Lecturer: Bryan Idowu

Lecturer I: Jamilu Col ;Dlins

Lecturer II: Nwakali (both of them)

Assistant Lecturer: Kelechi Iheanacho

Secondary Faculty:

Emeritus Professor (Baruwa and Ejike Uzoenyi endowed chair of Carpentry): Isaac Success

Visiting professor (Woodwork Research): Joel Obi

Senior Research Fellow: Efe Ambrose

Junior Research Fellow: Elderson Echiejile

Research assistant: Ezenwa

You go kill person oh

Eartquake1:
The proof is in his passport

You are making a claim that he is not 27 what is your proof?

I did not make a claim you are, not me.

The discussion started with IllicitBLOOD, you should look at the context before jumping in.

My position is very simple, l will reiterate what l said. That because there is no AUTOMATIC BIRTH DATA CAPTURE in Nigeria.

There is no substantive official verification of age in Nigeria. The source of age is entirely reliant on personal integrity, integrity that can be very questionable.

In Western Europe and most of the developed world. Even prior to birth there is already substantive data capture and at birth there is IMMEDIATE AUTOMATIC DATA CAPTURE CORROBORATED @ MULTIPLE GOVERNMENTAL SOURCES.

There is zero reliance on the individual personal integrity as a source of data.

Passport is not proof of date of birth as a stand alone document.

LaMujer:
watching our highlights now, i am just imagining what would have been of Aina, had he chosen the 3 lions

He would be playing for Chelsea and on £100k a week, and being hailed as the next best LB for England possibly.

In reality nobody can tell with football.

Joebie:
oga his campaign in Europe has been pretty decent. At least he held his own in the their home loss to Man U.

Do you know there are league two teams that have held thier own with Epl teams that doesn't put them on the same standard.

Was it not a league two team that beat Leicester City in the Cup last season. But they still didn't do much more that season.

I remember Southend playing Arsenal a few years ago and almost winning the game.

In cup games anything is possible.

If you put Sadiq Umar in league two honest no bias he will struggle. You said he held his own OK how many goals did he score ❓ over the two legs and you know a lot of thier youth player were in that team.

So how did he hold his own bros.

darkelf:
But odey plays regularly.

See, Nacho is even behind Ayize Perez. Of vardy injures today, Perez would be starting at that position. How can someone be behind vardy and yet has just 2 starts??. Let's be honest, Brendan tells the media one thing (praises nacho) but does another (just 2 starts). You sef, think am now

I had this discussion with TheGoodJoe quite some time ago and he was up in arms that l was essentially being biased and talking rubbish.

I don't know Brendan Rogers personally. But l know a few players and agents who do. And they all say he is TWO FACED.

But that's not relevant as such what Managers day in the press and what they believe and or say off camera are TWO DIFFERENT THING'S.

Brendan has no time for KC that's the reality. But also all the Managers he has played under have found him WANTING. That's three different managers you really can not get more emphatic than that.

andrewbaba44:
You make sense bros

But I still think we will beat Denmark and Austria

I should say possibly because it will be a friendly and to be honest anything can happen.

However, in a tournament settings it becomes a Totally different situation.

Do you remember when we dismissed Denmark in the 1998 Workd cup and we were thoroughly flogged and disgraced by them.

safarigirl:
you have been advocating for some nothing players of recent. Does the here and now not apply to them?

I don't think you should really be saying anything you don't know quality players when they are staring you in the face.

You have NO IDEA.

You are too blinded by emotive sentiment to make an informed decision. You are calling players NOTHING PLAYERS.

So who are the NOTHING PLAYERS by your uninformed sentiment based opinion. ❓

Because you haven't mentioned any names.

Joebie:
It's not always about physicality.. He is doing very well this season. We won't agree on this one.

In that moi moi league.

With low quality teams.

tbaba1234:
I hope Iheanacho joins an EPL team that will give him minutes. I do not like this Turkey talk. Go to Turkey and it is hard to come back to main stream Europe.

Tbaba1234

You supriseme with this comment.

Tell me what team in the EPL will buy a striker who has scored 5 goals over three seasons in the EPL.

Then add his huge transfer fee and wage demands.

I think he may decide to run his contract down because nobody will pay £15 million for him now.

Championship clubs will look at him as not suited and or good enough if they have promotion ambitions.

So Turkey is his best bet at the moment so he may get half of his current pay but because of the favourable tax regime. He may end up with the same money.

Furthermore, the football thier is not as taxing and he may be able to score once again.

Joebie:
Why is it hard for people to understand? I don't label players and crucify them. Follow what they are doing at PRESENT.
Akpeyi is very much hated but I lauded his recall to the team. If KC starts to perform today I will clamor for him as I once did in the past. SENTIMENTS OUT!

Agreed without pause the HERE and NOW is the pertinent issue.

charlesemeka85:
my brother the matter tire me. if rohr wants to bring in more centre halves he should go for any of uduokhai,
adarabioyo or iorfa. these guys are not better than ozonwafor but at least they are playing regularly in their respective clubs. i think the combo of ekong and ajayi should be tried more in subsequent games while omeruo should try to get back to reckoning at leganes

Let me not be biased and negatively subjective.

Why would you consider Ozonwafor ❓ Irrespective of club and league.

Using my never ending proposition for identification.

Has he been consistently consistent with top class outstanding performances for clubland league over time.

Because you have said he is better than Uduokhai and Iorfa. I personally don't think Uduokhai is better than Iorfa from the few times l have watched him play.

I am curious know what your view is which is mostly objective.

Adarabioyo has been dissapointing from day one IMO playing pretty football at Man city. It simply doesn't prepare for the harsh reality of physically intense football in the EPL and Championship.

Not surprisingly Adarabioyo was woeful at WBA he has gone to a struggling Blackburn. Where it is all hands on deck and he may have learned very quickly.

I say this because first time I really watched Tomori playing RB for Hull city he was average if not below. Now he has improved so much in one season he is playing for England.

Players improve with time although not all.

charlesemeka85:
Kenneth Omeruo's irregular game time at Spanish club CD Leganes counted against him when Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr chose the starting line-ups for the two recent Africa Cup of Nations qualifiers against Benin and Lesotho.

Udinese's Troost-Ekong is the only undisputed starter in the Super Eagles central defence, with Omeruo and Ajayi vying for the remaining spot.

While the former Chelsea man has not been involved in four of the last ten games played by Leganes in La Liga, his rival Ajayi has started 17 games for West Brom this season - 16 in the EFL Championship and one in the League Cup.

On why Ajayi partnered Ekong, Rohr told reporters including allnigeriasoccer.com after Sunday's win vs Lesotho: ''Semi is a good partner (for Troost-Ekong) but you know a team can change depending on what the players are doing in their clubs,''

''We had some players with injuries, they didn't play so much, Musa was one of them, he was injured, Omeruo also had the same problem.

''What we have is good competition for the starting positions.''

Today makes it exactly four months Omeruo last played a game for the Super Eagles and it was against Tunisia at the Africa Cup of Nations.

The bold seems ambiguous yes he was owned by Chelsea but never played one game for Chelsea.

Every team national and club is always on the look out for better players to increase competition for places.

We need more players to be invited and tested. We invite a midfielder from the Nordic leagues in the name of Nwakali who had nothing.

Then we ignore players across Europe who are doing good things at thier clubs.

I guess this is Nigeria

Joebie:
Dennis should be tested there.. then we also have Okereke, Dessers, and Sadiq Umar. Yes Sadiq Umar

Sadiq Umar hmmmmm get as he be.

Physically imposing player with zero physicality.

Unfortunately we have not seen Josh Maja play for the SE and he is just about average or below at his club.

The slower paced and less physical game doesn't seem to suit him. Either that or he is simply not good enough.

MetalJigsaw:
And Okocha for the midfield ;DAnd Okocha for the midfield

I have met a few players who were excellent players but completely clueless coaches.

So to make assumption based on players experience and ability can lead to dissapointment.

darkelf:
On another note. What are the chances of the Super Eagles if we should play the following teams (in a friendly or tournament)?

1. England

2. Portugal

3. Croatia

4. Austria

5. Denmark

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andrewbaba44
thesupernerd

humility

charlesemeka

joebie

thegoodjoe

komekn

etc

I can see us beating Austria but not comprehensively.

A possible draw with Denmark.

But beating Croatia, Portugal and England is a very tall order.

ILLICITblood:
Well atleast i never suggested i knew his age

If you can't proof that he is not 27

Then carry your wahala dey go

Ahmed Musa is 27 until proven otherwise

If you can not prove his age then what is purpose of your proposition.

It's vice versa, you can not have it both ways.

Unfortunately and shamefully Nigeria does not have OFFICIAL AUTOMATIC BIRTH DATA CAPTURE. As a consequence it is IMPOSSIBLE to have official age verification in Nigeria.

In Nigeria we rely entirely on personal integrity which knowing our country and it's value system is very very weak indeed.

We can't even have basic free and fair elections.


Consider your claim in bold and the substanceof your initial statement. i.e. " were you there when he was born "

So back to you, prove that Ahmed Musa is 27 ❓

forgiveness:
I understand but we need a better LB.

When you say better it implies he Collins is competent he simply is not good enough.

Although Aina is not naturally left footed he is better by a considerable margin than all our current LB or RB

He has been consistently good for a considerable length of time. Both for the SE and in all his clubs.

forgiveness:
Rewatch the match against Argentina at the world cup then you will accept he is better than Collins defensively.

Okoroji is a natural LB. Rohr should try him out.

Another player i would have suggested is Uduokhai but I don't know his situation regarding playing for us.

Being naturally left footed doesn't mean you are better than a right footed player in the LB position.

It's like saying the only qualification needed to be a LB is to be left footed. There is way more to it than that.

ILLICITblood:
Na you born am??


Minister of age detecting

Minister of knowing age.

Were you there when he was born too ❓

Danielnino00:
On what basis did u conclude that Grujic won't play for Liverpool and Ejaria will?
Klopp isn't British o.. he doesn't do that British favoritism nonsense

Let's just say l KNOW that's all.

Believe it or disbelieve it, it's your choice.

Danielnino00:
I may not live in the UK like u... But having supported Liverpool for over 12 years now, I think I know pretty much about the club...so don't stylishly tag me ignorant.

Harry Wilson has been Liverpool best loan player for the past two seasons now.. a left footed right winger who can function on the left flank and attacking midfield..Salah and Mane presence in the team won't deny him game time.. Shaqiri that is their main backup has been relegated to the bench due to his poor form and Klopp has said nothing about recalling Wilson to fill in for him...
Ejaria is a good player and currently doing well, but he won't be recalled even if he wins championship player of the season.. Marko Gurjic plays in the same position as Ejaria and he had a great season with Hertha Berlin last season and is still doing the same now, but he hasn't been recalled.. Na Ejaria.. lol

I am not stylishly tagging you ignorant.

Living in the UK does not give anybody greater insight about the club than someone who is in Nigeria.

However, knowing the club and the people who run the club does.

Marko will NEVER EVER play for Liverpool no matter what he does.

Ovie has a possibility that's all l will say. A few seasons ago we thought Origi's time was up. It's changed dramatically now.