₦airaland Forum

Mujtahida:
I think there's common sense in what the goodjoe said. I even think that to the u17- down to the u20 should be left exclusively for Nigerian home grown talents except foreign born players who are exceptional at that age (those who are in the field will be able to spot an exceptional player when one pops up)

At the stage of the 17-20 age grade, the stake in footballing terms is not too high. We can safely keep it for our local boys without too great a loss.

That's not a merit based system but a discriminatory and excluding one. That's essentially favoritism.

It enthrones mediocrity so because your in Nigeria born and or bred you should be favoured.

The NFF youth teams are not a social welfare programme.

Icon4s:
I would rather say 'he should be allowed to compete for a place'. No automatic place for any player.

Agreed in principle.

However, how does one justify the inclusion of Nwakali in the U23 is that not undue favoritism and far from objective.

Joebie:
Personally, this is how I see it. Let me use investments as an analogy, if you see a promising stock would you not consider investing in it?
If you feel there is something special about a player and you are in danger of losing the player and you MAY regret it in future won't you go for him? The problem is when we think these countries should give us a handout and make things easy for us. It's never been so. It's always competition even from pre-colonial years.

Africa need to wake up and really compete in every regard and stop talking about PRIDE.

Martin Keown said of Traore considering his BLISTERING DEVASTATING PACE possibly the fastest player in the World.

That he is like a learner driver behind the wheels of a Ferrari. However, it seems like he is finally learning how to control and master the powered speed at his disposal.

IMO once he learned how to use his unique attributes he is UNSTOPPABLE. That's incredible potential not suprised Spain want him thru have nobody like him.

And if he learns how to merge speed with technique. He will be great asset for any team and his time in the Spanish team could be very long Indeed.

charlesemeka85:
And where have Spain been all this while but only gave him a call up to just because he has opened talks with Mali?

He was called up to replace Rodrigo who is currently injured but those that mean the Spanish national team selectors can't fish out another Spanish young talent from the almighty laliga to replace Rodrigo instead of stooping so low to invite a player from wolves?


In your own valuation do you think traore is good enough to have a long career with the Spanish national team? Why is the call this sudden? Because he scored a brace against man City made it good enough for Spain?

Go relax abeg

The debate of which to choose Spain or Mali is a difficult one.

Playing for Mali will add no value to Traore in terms of value or recognition. He is already playing in the EPL. However, playing for potential world champions will add value and recognition.

In this regard which would you say was of more value 10 caps for Spain or 30 for Mali ❓

Traore is well known to the Spanish FA having played youth football at Barcelona.

But most importantly they simply do not have anybody like Traore in the Spanish team. He brings something DIFFERENT and still a lot of quality.

Joebie:

You get a job offer from Employer A and that was the only job offer at the time and you agree to it. Tomorrow when you wake Employer B give u job offer.. So you don't have a choice to make again because you had agreed to the first one? You call that test of character?

Anyway we have different mentality. Different perspectives I guess. no need to argue.

Some people have a very different understanding of what they think wisdom is.

charlesemeka85:
I bet you guys that is Jose mourinho returns to the epl will will break the bank to get ndidi and oshimeh

Why do you think that❓

Any transfer rumours concerning the two you have mentioned. I haven't heard anything.

jihday:
If he declare and he's good enough to displace those in the team he'll play, we can't be using players we don't need just to cap-tie them that will be unfair

So it's more fair to give positions to those who haven't played a competitive football game.in thier club for 10 months.

What's fair and what's not fair ❓

I am saying we don't have any clear standards in the NFF.

Joebie:
Who else but Tammy!!!

GBOSA scores again.

He was the highest goal scorer in the EPL for about three hours he is now number 2, after Vardy slapped Arsenal.

charlesemeka85:
Adarabioyo, Eze, Ajayi and Ejaria starts for Blackburn, QPR, westbrom and reading

And so did Iorfa with Odubanjo on the bench for Wednesday, Luke Ayodele Moses also started for QPR, to name a few others. Them still plenty for Championship.

andrewbaba44:
Lol

Same thing in KL and even Cairo

Which one be KL cause me l don't know oh please.

Icon4s:
Bros, I have not seen your nomination. Please u still have 2hrs to do so

I nominated BascoVanVeli ages ago check.

somehow:
The foreign coaches do theirs like it's part of the job. You can sometimes mistake it to be legal unlike the local coaches who do theirs without tact.

Another point is that most Nigerians don't see the corruption in foreign coaches handling the national teams due to complex.

I do.

Essentially because l personally know the European based agents some of them use.

andrewbaba44:
How can you tell me if someone is progressing at 21 he should not play youth football?

Fabregas and aguero where already progressing at age 19 and they are still playing youth football.

I said " If you are progressing in football at 21 you should not be playing youth football " l am talking youth club football not youth national teams.

When you look at European teams most players at U21 level have already played 2/3 seasons of first team football.

In this regard national team U23 is for players who are established young professionals, playing first team football in thier respective clubs.

andrewbaba44:
I have no problem with nwakali sha, i will accept him as far as he is playing for the u23 and not the super eagles

But i hope you will not be supporting a bench warmer being called to the super eagles?

Anyway thats why i trust rohr, and i can see the reason you dont like rohr , maybe because he doesnt call bench warmers like nwakali to the eagles

Dont come here and say your performance in the national team keep you there when you cannot even make match day squad for your club, i can only accept a bench warmer in eagles GK area

I disagree with you STRONGLY.

First of all football us a very short term career.

At 21 if you are progressing you should not in any shape or form be playing youth football. Ideally you should be a young experienced professional.

The U23 is like the testing ground for younger professional players to gain access to the SE.

It's a aberration from general accepted best practice to select a player who has not played football for near 10 months. And an insult to players who are and have not been selected.

There is no EXCUSE.

It opens the door very wide for NFF officials to make thier deals and blatant sharp practices. We are Nigerians we know what can happen.

kellycute:
he go still deny am even if we post screenshot lol. He go use style ignore the main point and focus on another wey nor dey relevant then he go use English dribble himself comot. You can't pin komekn down Lai Lai cos his evasive skill is topnotch.

Both you and Safarigirl have NEVER EVER been able to date to SUBSTANTIATE any of your befuddled self birthed assumptions with one SCREENSHOT not two just one.

One again l Challenge you, please get Indignant and show just one post. No need for long story show the one post.

But both of you can NEVER you shamelessly tell blatant lies birthed from your jaundiced self birthed and justified presumptions.

You just hide and EVADE.

However, thier is a difference between the two of you on a very few occasions Safarigirl has been able to humbly apologise and concede mistakes. You have NEVER.

Lucque:
Mr Southgate,

They say Common sense isnt common.
I was going to write a long epistle
on how ur comment was both rude
and slightly disappointing,
given the fact that i have never insulted
or ridiculed u on this thread...

but then i thought abt how pointless it would be given how you are the most sound minded and unbiased and unsentimental moniker in your own eyes....

well, lady x made a comment abt ex chelsea players flopping...u responded by calling non chelsea players..i drew ur attention to the comment, and you decided to go low...very low....

Well abt nepa...the assumption that i live in Nigeria...or dat i live in an area wer power is a challenge is just comical.

You have EVADED the Question ❓ COMPLETELY.

You raised an observation birthed from your imagination. I gave you a screen shot with her comments. And you don't even address your blatant MISREPRESENTATION and are still trying to defend the indefensible.

Have some dignity, yes it's a faceless forum but still show integrity.

I still think light no deh for wherever you deh, you clearly can't see.

kellycute:
bro, I'll remind you January OK but please dont try to act evasive using your legendary skill "show me where I ever said that, or quote me verbatim bla bla bla" when I bring it up thereafter.

Nb: 2 goals in 2 games for nacho while your exceptional talent Solanke gat 0 goals in 12 games this season. Na wa

I have never recommended SOLANKE for the SE so what is the relevance or comparison for ❓

kellycute:
bro, I'll remind you January OK but please dont try to act evasive using your legendary skill "show me where I ever said that, or quote me verbatim bla bla bla" when I bring it up thereafter.

I challenge you to find one quote where I said Solanke is Exceptional talent and or is a prospect for the SE.

Just screen shot it's not hard.

Joebie:
madam.. Alaba denied they asked for bribe. He did not deny the report that the coaches said our U17s was meant for local bred players.
please follow context.

I remember the USA born Abuchi Obinwa Nigerian origin player who failed MRI in Nigeria.

His mother had to pay the NFF over a 100k naira for the test ( supposed to be free) and when she asked for the test results, NFF begin speak Chinese.

To think that Ademola Lookman and Ovie Ejaria both got screened for the U17 but nothing happened.

Joebie:
Na wa o. Player comparison and preferences is something displayed by many here. The bad blood talk weak me.

Agreed without reservation or question.

I think it mirrors unconscious and conscious bias and prejudice. The very thing upon which TRIBALISM is anchored upon.

Why cant it just be the best players irrespective of location, place of birth or background.

somehow:
You self no say none of them is a saint, both home and foreign coaches.

Not when Nigerians are the ones running the NFF and employing these coaches.

Agreed without one iota of reservation.

There are things l know and there are things I can't prove so l keep QUITE.and watch with amusement.

somehow:
It is only when it's not a white coach that this accusation starts flying around like say we don't see what happens during the tenures of foreign coaches.

The only difference between Nigerian coaches and the European ones.

Is Nigerian coaches dont do thier corruption with coded discretion, just blatantly.

Abusule007:
Only God knows the reason why we always witness this non payment issues with our NFF all the time.

Is it that there's no money to pay players?

Do you know there was a time bonus were all paid in raw cash.

I wonder WHY ❓

kellycute:
it is very clear.... Nacho will leave Leicester January and that gonna be a good development cos he need to play football. I predict he gonna remain in epl. Bookmark this page.
Cc komekn lol.

I know the term Fan is derived from Fanatical and that in itself alludes to being without rational and objective thinking.

On what basis will KC remain in the EPL ❓ 4 goals in three seasons at Leicester.

And this is where the fanaticism goes over the top, my questions will deduced as HATE by some. It's just as plain as daylight but for the fanatical they are so blinded they can't see even when the sun's is out.

Joebie:
Hopefully things will change soon. We got Osimhen getting better and even better. I see him in a big club soon. Denis, Okereke are also in the horizon. Time will tell

Bit concerned why is Osimhen not the toast of the French league. I noticed that Slimani name was put in ahead of him.

Not sure why.

Statistically speaking Osimhen goals have pushed his team ahead almost single handedly.

somehow:
Can you beat your chest to say there has been any national team selection across all boards without one form of shady undertone before be it local or foreign coaches

You should know nobody wants to hear or admit to that bitter truth.

Danielnino00:
Nwakali isn't doing well at club level agreed.. But he was called up to the u-23 on the back of his impressive performance at the u-17 level and at club level..
So far he has performed well at the u-23 level..why drop him now?
Ur performance at club level will earn u an invitation to the national team, but ur performance in the national team will keep u there... Nwakali has earned his spot in that team..there's nothing u can do about it except to cry..

I expected a lot more from you but it seems my expectations are too high.

How can you use past glories of youth football of 3/4 years ago to JUSTIFY a players selection into the current U23. That's simply Ludicrous.

It is an insult to players who are working hard and striving we select a players who hads not kicked a competitive ball for near 10 months.

This is the kind of regressive thinking that has brought our nation to its current state. Favoritism and Nepotism.

kellycute:
we know what u are doing. If you ain't hyping your borough Carpenters, u will resort to hyping some of our home-grown players against each other just to cause unnecessary bad blood. A time is coming and I won't be surprise when you start supporting nacho agaisnt oshimen. Even if denni is technically astute than Musa and nacho, leave am like that we like am. Dennis is way better than your solanke... That's even an insult to dennis cos solanke nor reach. Uzeonyi is even better than your crappy solanke.

Once again you jumped on a bandwagon of created self birthed assumptions.

I challenge you to give one post where I recommended Solanke for the SE and or rated him as EXCEPTIONAL TALENT.

I said this ages ago Solanke will never play for Nigeria.

So what's the relevance of Solanke to the discussion. Are you recommending him for the SE. ❓

Lucque:
She said ex-chelsea...not all football teams from epl...m not part of the argument o...i just wanted to set d argument straight..

You jumped in to add your view but it's jaundiced because its based entirely on perception not facts.

But very disappointing because these are facts easily established by reading the her posts and the subsequent follow up posts.

But in case NEPA cease light for your side and as such you could not see. Look at the screen shot and the comments in bold.

So what would you call your comments Objective, Balanced or something else.

Koboko99:
He has a club and he's having work permit issues. That will be sorted out later this month...clearly you've decided to skip that news here.

If my memory serves me right he still trained with the arsenal first team before the start of the season, so it's not like he's been sitting at home drinking beer.

Yes, clubs will hardly release their players since it's not in the FIFA calendar. Azubuike has to miss the first game because of this. I guess you didn't read that here too.

We had hundreds of players across Europe. And they can not all play at the same time. Kelechi has delivered everytime he was called upon. My cousins who were at the stadium told me he was given a standing ovation the last time in Asaba.

You are in no position to judge my values, norms and sense of fair play because you're no better....

You're trying to make excuses for Sven Goran Erikson for taking Theo Walcott who didn't even play 1 minute for Arsenal to the world cup.....the biggest soccer tournament on the planet.

I bet if rorh had taken an unknown Nigerian kid from Sevilla academy to the nation's cup you would have sent assassin's after him.

First of all what on earth has Walcott going to the World cup near 15 years ago for England, with this matter ❓ It MAKES NO SENSE.

A player has not played a competitive game of football since March this year. The reasons why are totally IRRELEVANT.

Do you think any player will be invited to any European national team when he has not played football for near 10 months. That's making national team selection a comedy before the world.

Oh he trained with Arsenal and he did so well they RELEASED him. See how you are reasoning it's so regressive and snacks of double standard.

The issue is not how good he has played in the past. But denying pkayers who are more deserving OPPORTUNITY.

jihday:
I really don't get your train of thought.

What has KC got to with the current discourse on Okereke, It's seems you have deep seated resentment towards KC and Osimhen

But what has made you so BITTER whaaaaten the two of them do you

You tell me ❓

You are the only one here who has brought the name Okereke into the discourse.

Please explain the WHY, WHEN and WHAT FOR

Subzero047:
No you should explain it

After making a deduction on my comments, you are now asking me to explain.

That's essentially putting the cart before the horse.