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i couldn't believe that story on the fact that her monthly salary is N7,800.
N7,800.00 monthly salary, cleaning job at airport? abi na N78,000.00?

Mr. Fashola! stop shifting blame. Tell us what your were able to do on those matter with the taxes collected from lagosians?

arcbay:
Please stop contradicting urself and accept you were wrong!!! Did u read ur post that I initially quoted? You claimed ur quack VET confirmed the purity of the pup and that u were sure because it was sold to you by ur Lebanese colleague...

Anyways, I hands off now, just want people to learn thru you, always take criticisms as a medium of advancement and leverage on ur spotted weaknesses... Just so you may know, those 3 pups u posted are all Mongrels in the making... The 3 of them put together shouldn't be more than 3,500 Naira...

NOTE TO ALL:
The fact that a pup looks cute at the moment doesn't mean they will retain those features when fully grown, always endeavor to seek advice before choosing ur pup.

that is your own headache. i love me all my pets

Prodeegee:
the first one...a big fail

the second one...Nigerian shepherd dog

the third one is angry about something. try find out pls i wouldn't know that

now the question is, are they 3dogs? or the same dog in different costume?

they are 3 different dogs. you funny.

you mean to say the 3rd one is not a pure bred?

archy @5 months. the name was coined from acrchbay (the whistle blower)

@4months

here we go.
@ 4months

arcbay:
Bros, can you please post recent pictures of ur pups, we agreed 2 months... I'll be happy if u prove me wrong.

now i know that you never not read my subsequent comments.
please go back and do that.
FYI, the dogs are crossed and i have been refunded as agreed with the guy and also kept the dos.
however i will still post their pix and the pix of the newly acquired one

i like this script.

infact i expected worst.

my take, APC watch your back. obj can not be trusted.

even the mod still addressed this man as "emir of kano" after he had informed the public that he should be addressed as "Sakin Kano"

Me think Buhari said nothing like first lady if voted.

no bad.
i have a friend like that. just show him the hip....

anyone who believes this shit needs an urgent brain transplant.
BUHARI, this is democracy.

i pray so. i bought 1 carton of kroka fish for 16k 2days back

arcbay:
Guy...If you wanna learn, you need to get your mind straight and stop hanging in-between...

Firstly, I don't recall saying anything that only black and tan GSDs are pure bred.

Secondly, you said you were taken to the vet doctor who treats the sire of the pup and he confirmed that the sire is pure bred...Are you this gullible? What were you expecting the vet to say? You expected him to say the pup ain't pure right in front of the client?
also, I wonder why you keep emphasizing on the "Lebanese guy" issue. Does being Lebanese make his dogs pure? Is that your criteria for judgment.

Finally, I want you to know I only offered my advice in my previous post and meant no harm. My prayer for every breeder and pet-handler is that WE WILL ALL MEET AT THE TOP. My prayer is that one day other countries can look up to Naija in terms of breed standards and quality. I don't want you to see it as if i'm criticizing your pups. If I did, t'was just to make you work for the best.

Anyways, I still stand by the bet...IN 2 MONTHS TIME, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO POST THEIR PICTURES. Please be a perfect gentleman and upload the pictures whenever I ask of them. I want every NLder to see what your so-called pure-bred pups will turn into.

take am easy!
you have your point to prove. however, i want you to understand that the parent dogs i.e the father pure gsd while the mother cross gsd/. more like a 100% and 50% averagely 75% more or less purity.
that been said, 2 months is a deal.
i have never said i am an expert. as a matter of fact i am not a breeder but i'm curious to learn.
furthermore, thank you for blowing the alarm, that has given me more instinct for inquiry and refund of about 60%

thanks

update.
I bought the dog from a Lebanese colleague in the office.
upon further inquiry, I was convinced that the dogs are gsd aside goggle search and visit to the Veterinary Doctor who does treatment for him.
in fact, i was taken to see the first owner of the sire which happen to be in her third generation.
The stud was imported from France during his holiday visit which i am aware of.

i also attached picture of my mongrel (jackie) for you to compare.

@Arcbay please advance your knowledge, not all gsd are black and tan or slant back.

more pictures

pictures

i recently discovered that many acclaimed breeders and buyers here don't really know about this dog specie.
so i decided to make Google my friend and stumbled on this article which i believe will assist newbies like myself in selecting your desired GSD. i also attach pictures of different colors of GSD you might have not come across

Website http://www.germanshepherdfacts.com/

Short Historical Overview

In accordance with the official provisions of the German Shepherd Dog Club (SV) e.V., located in Augsburg, a member of the Federation of Dog Clubs in Germany (VDH) is the founding organization of the German Shepherd Dog and therefore, responsible for the breed standard. Work on this document was begun at the first membership meeting in Frankfurt/M on September 20, 1899 and is based on proposals by A. Meyer and v. Stephanitz. Additions and revisions to the standard were made as follows: membership meeting on July 28, 1901; 23rd membership meeting on September 17, 1909 in Koln; Board and Executive Committee Meeting on September 5, 1930 in Wiesbaden, and the Breeders Committee and Board Meeting on March 25, 1961 in conjunction with the WUSV (World Union of German Shepherd Clubs) and during the WUSV Meeting on August 30, 1976 where the standard was agreed upon, revised, and approved by the Board and Executive Committee on March 23 and 24, 1991.

Planned breeding activities began after the inception of the SV in 1899. The German Shepherd Dog was developed from herding dogs in service during that time in Middle and Southern Germany. The goal was to produce a high-performance working dog. To accomplish this goal, the Breed Standard of the German Shepherd Dog was created. This document addresses both physical qualities as well as character attributes.

General Appearance

The German Shepherd Dog is medium sized, slightly longer than tall, strong and well muscled, bone is dry, the whole dog presenting a picture of firmness.

Important Measurements

Height at the withers for males: 60 - 65 cm, bitches: 55 - 60 cm. Length of torso exceeds height at the withers by 10 - 17%.

Character

The German Shepherd should appear poised, calm, self confident, absolutely at ease, and (except when agitated) good natured, but also attentive and willing to serve. He must have courage, fighting drive, and hardness in order to serve as companion, watchdog, protection dog, service dog, and herding dog.

Head

The head is wedge-shaped and in harmony with the dog’s size (length app. 40% of height at the withers) without being coarse or overly long. The head should appear dry, and moderately wide between the ears. Seen from the front and side, the forehead is only slightly domed, the center furrow is either absent or only slightly visible. The length ratio of skull to face is 50 : 50%. Skull width approximately equals skull length. Seen from above, the skull slopes into a wedge-shaped muzzle. The stop should not be pronounced. Upper and lower jaws are strong, the bridge of the nose should be straight, not a Roman nose or dish-faced nose. Lips are taut, well closed and of dark color.

The Nose

The nose should be black.



Teeth

The teeth must be strong and complete in number (42 teeth as per formula). The German Shepherd has a scissor bite, where the upper incisors must meet the lower incisors in a scissor grip. Level bite, overshot and undershot teeth are faulty, as well as widely spaced teeth. A straight incisor tooth line is also faulty. Jawbones must be well developed, to permit deep rooting of the teeth in the gum.

The Eyes

The eyes are medium sized, almond-shaped, set slightly oblique and not protruding. The color should be as dark as possible

Ears

The German Shepherd has medium-sized, upright ears which are carried erect and perpendicular to one another, pointed and open to the front. Tipped ears and hanging ears are faulty. Laid-back ears are not faulty when the dog is in motion or resting.

Neck

The neck is strong, well-muscled, and clean cut (without folds of loose skin). The angle of neck to torso is approximately 45 degrees.

Body

The top line extends from the point where the neck meets the skull past the well developed withers and the gently downward sloping back to the slightly sloping croup without a visible break. The back is firm, strong, and well muscled. The loin is broad, well developed, and strongly muscled. The croup should be long and have a slight downward slope (approximately 23 degrees from horizontal) and should merge smoothly into the tail set.

Chest

The chest should be of moderate width, the underchest long and pronounced. Chest depth should be approximately 45 to 48% of height at the withers. The ribs should be moderately sprung. Barrel shaped or flat ribs are faulty.

Tail

The tail reaches at least to the hock joint, but not past the halfway point of the hock itself. The coat is slightly longer on the underside of the tail. The tail hangs in a soft, saber-like curve. When the dog is excited or in motion, the tail is somewhat raised, but should not reach past the horizontal line. Surgical corrections are not permitted.

Limbs

Forelegs

Seen from all sides, the forelegs are straight and absolutely parallel when viewed from the front.

Shoulder and upper arms are of equal length. Both are held snugly to the body by strong muscles. Angulation of shoulder blade to the upper arm ideally is 90 degrees, but up to 110 degrees is permissible.

Elbows may not turn out when the dog is standing or in motion or be pinched inward. The lower legs viewed from all sides are straight and absolutely parallel, dry, and well muscled. The pastern measures about 1/3 of the forearm length and is angled 20-22 degrees to the foreleg. Pasterns with an angle of more than 22 degrees or very steep pasterns (less than 20 degrees) reduce working capability especially, endurance.

Paws

The paws are rounded, tight, and arched. The soles are hard, but not brittle. The nails are strong and dark.

Hind Legs

The rear legs have a pronounced rounded knee or turn of stifle which projects the dog's rear quarter well behind the point of the pelvis. Seen from the rear, the hind legs are parallel to one another. Upper and lower thighs are of approximately the same length and form an angle of 120 degrees. Thighs are strong and well muscled.

The hock joint is strong and dry and the hock stands upright under the joint.

Paws

The paws are tight, slightly arched, the balls of the feet are hard and dark, nails strong, arched, and dark.

Gait

The German Shepherd is a trotting dog. Length and angulation of front and rear legs must be in proper proportion to one another to permit the dog to move the rear leg underneath the body, matching the reach of the rear legs with that of the front legs and at the same time, keeping the topline over the back relatively undisturbed. Any tendency for over-angulation of the rear reduces firmness and endurance of the dog and therefore, working capability. Correct body proportions and angulation result in a ground-covering gait which moves close to the ground and conveys the impression of effortless movement. With the head held slightly forward and the tail slightly lifted, the dog trotting evenly and smoothly, we see a softly moving topline which flows without interruption from neck to tail tip.

Skin

The skin covers the body loosely, but without folds.

Coat

Coat Characteristics

The correct coat for the German Shepherd is a stock coat (outer and under coat). The top coat should be as tight as possible, straight, coarse, and clinging closely to the undercoat. The head, including the inside of the ears, the front of the legs, the paws, and toes have short hair. Neck hair is longer and thicker. On the rear side of the legs, hair length increases downward to the pastern and hock. The rear of the thighs is covered show moderate "pants".

Pigment

Black with reddish brown, brown, tan to light-grey markings. Solid black, grey with darker overcast, black saddle and mask. Inconspicuous small white chest markings, as well as lighter pigment on the inside of the legs is permitted, but not desirable. All dogs, no matter what their color, must have black noses.

Missing mask, light to white markings on the chest and inner leg sides, light toenails, and a red tail tip are signs of faulty pigmentation. Undercoat has a slight grey cast. White is not permissible.

Size/Weight

Males: Height at the wither 60 cm to 65 cm
Weight 30 kg to 40 kg.

Females: Height at the wither 55 cm to 60 cm
Weight 22 kg - 32 kg

Testicles

Visual inspection must show two normally developed testicles fully descended into the scrotum.

Faults

Any deviations from the above listed points are considered faults. Points deducted must be in accordance with severity of the deviation. :

kuzee:
yu could ave make an enquiry before getting them..now it will be quite difficult returning those breed..
what is the cost of the pups yu bought?
dat pups suld be less dan 13k minimum ...
if yu plan on breedin it,it wil be hard for yu to get a client,even if yu do..the price will still be very much less..
return the dog by fire by force if i were yu.

No long thing! i bought it from a lebanes colleague in the office. i have already told him my intention to return them. trust me he will refund my money except he wants me to use my official powers.

arcbay:
No Hard feelings bro...It's always difficult accepting the truth especially when we are the victim...Mark this date, I will re-call this thread exactly 2 months from now, asking for the recent pics of those pups of yours, I just hope you can be a perfect gentleman and post pictures by then, just so others can learn from the situation.

I'm not saying I know it all, as a matter of fact no one is an island, but I must point this out...I've spent all my life around dogs, that I can tell what a pup will grow up to become, by just studying the features from birth. I'm sure most breeders and pet owners in here share this view too...
It's only a matter of time, I hope you don't end up feeling bad about the pups you bought...Pups are perfect companions, just give them the love and attention they deserve and watch them grow, but one thing you should note is that they ain't good for breeding...

no prob. however, further inquiry from the owner revealed that one was a gsd crossbred while the other a pure gsd bred.
although i want to return them even though they have been with me since they were 4 weeks old. i may keep them based on bargain
you will be updated.
thanks

arcbay:
These recent pictures just revealed their true features...I just hope you haven't paid...And you said the breeder claimed they are from good pedigree? My guy, if what the breeder said is true, then i'm sure he meant to say they are from good "poordigree"...Don't be deceived, those pups are only a lil different from the average mongrel...Truth be told, please don't take any offense here, just don't want you falling prey...A pup's features diminishes as it grows older. They might look a lil ok now but soon enough, they'll grow into long-necked, tiny fisted, pin-mouthed pets...#LET'S SAY NO TO IMPURITIES#

now i'm beginning to doubt your knowledge about gsd.
except there is a mix up.
i personally saw the parent before paying.
well i will do more findings.
however, please note that not all gsd are black and tan, how about the one from google

check out my gsd pup. 7weeks 2days

i don't think the guy is a maga.
he just want to entice the babe to inherit her parent property he said "her parent her stinkingly rich" and the babe don catch the drift.
otherwise, he is a stupid maga.

@op. she dey feel sorry for you.

as much as I would have loved apc, they keep flaunting their ignorance at every instinct.
this looks like a road under construction.
it would have been good if apc complains about slow pace of the work.
some thing like incompetent gej contracted incompetent contractor to .................

he can only receive such gift if he is a director of the company or his proxy.
a man of integrity will not receive a gift he did not ask for.

zicky:
This group just lightened my mood, posted to Jigawa from port Harcourt , wen I looked at the map of Nigeria and notice I'll b moving from one end of the country to another I wz scared couple with the security situation in the North. Jigawa here I come, sule lamido will welcome me

YES.
WISH YOU SAFE JOURNEY BETWEEN COME AND WITNESS THE GOOD GOVERNMENT OF JIGAWA STATE DOING GREAT WITH LITTLE AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND PROBE AMEACHI THEREAFTER.

mharyhorwa:
hi, am a lady from lagos posted to jigawa. I almost fainted when i sw my call up letter. I need help on how to gt to jigawa nd maybe a fellow traveller too.[color=#000099][/color]

Jigawa is not bad, just that it is not as lively as lag if you are a fun loving person. however, you can always port to kano for fun. just be careful where you go.
HOW TO GET TO JIGAWA.
option 1: book a flight to dutse, if the local route is available and get a taxi to take you to camp.
option 2: (A). board luxry bus to kano from (AGEGE, OYINGBO, ILE EPO DEPENDING ON PROXIMITY TO YOUR LOCATION E.T.C). you can choose between G.U.O Groups Motors, EZEWANTA, GOBISON (their buses are new). DON'T TRY TO BOARD BESTWAY, THE YOUNG OR BONNYWAY except you want to have a boring journey)
(B) DROP AT NGWUAN UKU there is a park there and it is good for your convenience. IF YOU DROP AT SABON GARI PARK. YOU WILL HAVE TO CHARTER TAXI TO ANY OF THE NEAREST PARK)
(C)) AT THE PARK BOARD VEHICLE GOING TO DUTSE (note there is nothing like jigawa bus) Dutse is about 45mins to 1hr and your Camp is just by the road. Beside they have a nice camp. SAFE JOURNEY AND GOOD LUCK. THANK ME LATER

NB: AVOID GROUP TRAVELLING WITH OTHER MEMBERS AND BE SMART

Siena: When you say "bearing noise", do you mean the engine has a knocking / rattling sound? Please clarify.

. something like rattling at high rmps when I press the gas pedal at idle. although the car still moves fine.

good day yoga Siena. thanks for or response to my thread on 4 4 7 pin carburetor. well it happened that my supply and return hose were weak and were leaking. it has been replaced and the fuel consumption is OK without having to change the carburetor. the new issue is that I noticed the bearing noise from the engine and my Mech said he will change it along side the con rod. hope it will be OK as I will be travelling with by DEC for about 6.000km. your advice pls. VW ventof

good day yoga Siena. thanks for or response to my thread on 4 4 7 pin carburetor. well it happened that my supply and return hose were weak and were leaking. it has been replaced and the fuel consumption is OK without having to change the carburetor. the new issue is that I noticed the bearing noise from the engine and my Mech said he will change it along side the con rod. hope it will be OK as I will be travelling with by DEC for about 6.000km. your advice pls. VW vento