area74:
Hello house,

Please I will like to know if UK universities accept our MSc for a PhD Admissions.

I look forward to your responses.

Thank you.

Very well so.
They do.

kode12:

Somebody help me answer this please. The website is showing that they've moved from ivie house, but still has there as its address.

What I saw on the website was the they moved TO the address you just wrote not FROM.



https://pos.tlscontact.com/lgv_en/index.php/

justwise:


Newcastle is a lively city with a lot of foreign student population and the university is a very good one, the university is a member of the prestigious Russell Group, very few universities in the UK are in that group.

Newcastle University Russel Group?
Yeah

Northumbria University, Newcastle. Russel Group?
Nah.

OlaLiberty:
Good day all. I'm going for 18 month MSc. programme but my passport will expire in 15 month time. Do I need to get a new passport now before applying or renew the current one when it expires?

If you have up to 6 month validity in your passport, and you have empty pages on the passport, you are good to go.

LagosismyHome:


Thanks a lot ....

so just to clarify , the actual submission of all your document and application can be done online. You only need to go Lagos or Abuja for biometric?

I would allow some other person to answer this.
I am an old man.
During my time (and a lot has changed).
You will submit the ONLINE form online.
Then have all your supporting document (originals) and take them with you. Later, it was changed to have the documents scanned on-site and the originals returned to you. Then it was changed (from new testimonies) to a kind of elective ‘document self upload’ where you will scan them yourself at home, upload to portal and carry the originals (I assume for sighting) on the day you attend your biometric data capture.

Hope this helps.

Trizadove:

8. On day 28 ( I personally recommend having patience till day 30). Go to your bank and print the account statement.
9. Press the submit button on your application portal and book for your biometrics.


If the money has been there for longer, that is amazing. However, ensure that as at the day you clicked ‘submit’ if you do a BACKWARD countdown, the balance should never have dropped to anything less than the Onda rates on the day of submission.


If you require any more clarification, ask.

Thank you for this response
Are you saying I can submit bank statement of just a month or 2 and not the regular 3-6months? Like if I open an account for this purpose and run it for a month, I can submit it like that?

Also, please are you saying there won't be anything like letter of explanation to further explain where the money came from?

On the biometrics please, would someone who has previously given biometrics within one year still require to give biometric again? (Unlike the Canadian application where your biometrics is valid for 10years)

1. There is nothing like ‘regular 3-6 months when it comes to UK Tier-4
2. Ordinarily, UKVI does not normally care where the money came from. On the chance that they asked you (probably at interview or on the form) about how you are funding your studies, a simple straight answer like:
“My dad is funding my studies. For this reason, he has transferred the required funds into my account for the 28-day period as stipulated by UKVI”

Or it could be:

“I previously won a lottery. Rather than waste the money I won, I decided to use it to educate myself. I have maintained the funds for the 28 day period as required...” Bla Bla Bla....

3. Canada is in North America. UK is in Europe. INEC biometrics cannot be used for BVN biometrics.

On a final note, I would plead with you to follow the links provided by some great Nairalanders yesterday. If you read that meticulously, you will NEVER go wrong.
If you require any interpretations? Then this thread has been a wonderful place.
It worked for me fantastically years ago; it will work for you too.

LagosismyHome:


Please can you explain how this Biometrics work . Are you given dates close to when you submit the application

As soon as you click ‘Submit’ you normally would be re-directed to the TLS website. Here you create a TLS account, input your GWF number and choose a suitable date that you would physically go for the biometrics capture.

Chinlin:
My people una well done o
Abeg someone should kindly explain this 28 day rule for me coz I’m a bit confused.
Must the money be in the account for exactly 28 days? Or do they mean the money should have been in the account for at least 28 days?
If the money has been available for like 2 months nko?
How does it work please?

1. Get a rough estimate of the money you will require (using Oanda rates)
2. Add some few hundred ££ to the required money (I would recommend £1000 if you can).
3. Put the money in your personal account (or your parents’ account).
4. As soon as you are sure that the money is there, and the bank book balance reflects the money, make that that DAY 1.
5. Leave the money there till day 2
6. Leave the money till day 3
7. Leave it there till days 4,5,6,7...28 (during these days, money may come INTO the account. But make sure that any money leaving the account does not make the balance to go beneath your previously estimated/calculated required funds.
8. On day 28 ( I personally recommend having patience till day 30). Go to your bank and print the account statement.
9. Press the submit button on your application portal and book for your biometrics.


If the money has been there for longer, that is amazing. However, ensure that as at the day you clicked ‘submit’ if you do a BACKWARD countdown, the balance should never have dropped to anything less than the Onda rates on the day of submission.


If you require any more clarification, ask.

Newbetterphase:



Good evening All.

Please I really need your say or input. I just got an admission offer from Northumbria University for a 2 years Master's degree.

Can someone tell me about the university and Newcastle. I don't know much about the school because I was planning to go to Robert Gordon University but the study module and duration of Northumbria University is well structured than that of RGU.

I want to know how good or bad is Newcastle city and Northumbria University?

My personal opinion.
1. Go to the school where your research shows you will get the best education.
2. Both Northumbria Uni and RGU are not in the top tier of UK universities so they may essentially be the same.
3. You mentioned that you have taken time to peruse the modules and structure of what both offer and you are impressed with Northumbria. Go to Northumbria then.
4. I have been to both Aberdeen and Newcastle. Both are fantastic places. Both are amazing.
5. You want to know how good or bad Newcastle is. Sorry. The cup is either half full or half empty.

mogatti:


Whether you are 100 years old, you are still a child of your parents and this issue has nothing to do with personal opinion it is clear if u critically look at it, a parent can support their child and provide a letter to back that up and if their child has dependants who happens to be under the child then automatically they can support them. If you agree that a parent can support their child whether his is 100 years or a matured man as u said then that's it. Am nt here to claim I know it all or take sides or go back and forth but the fact is a parent can support their child and if he has dependants automatically it can cover them but it's better to have d funds in the main applicants account which co ERS for him and his dependants and my broda I rest my case.

Unfortunately, the ECO is not expected to use YOuR logic or your own definition of a child and assign ‘automatic’ visas.
I am speaking from experience.
‘Automatic’ does not apply here, especially where the guidelines has SPECIFICALLY mentioned the only two people whose account statements can be accepted for a tier-4 DEPENDANT.

The ECO uses the guidelines and not Nairalanders opinions or interpretation.
That is why it is important to always point persons asking these type of questions to the guidelines.


If folks ask questions such as:
Newcastle vs Aberdeen which is finer?
Or
Northumbria vs Robert Gordon which is sexier
Or London vs Glasgow which one has higher knife crimes.... aha...... then we can air opinions on those kinda questions.

mogatti:


My broda look at it from this angle, the main applicant can have the funds in either his account or parents account. That is very clear, so if the parents can support their child and he happens to be going with his dependants automatically they can support the dependants through their child. Its a different ball game when the child related to the parents willing to sponsor is not applying.

Mogatti:
Where did you infer that ‘automatically’ from?
From your own logic and inference right? Not from any guideline.

As soon as an applicant shows that s(he) has a dependant, it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever that the applicant will still present his parents’ bank statement.

To make it worst, the main applicant having shown that he is dependant on his parents will still want to have a dependant. That means (dependant)^2
Dependant raised to power 2.

In the UK, an 18-year old (even if unmarried) is NEVER EVER referred to or seen as a CHILD.
It bothers me that you are using the word child in this context.

mogatti:

We are all here to learn and not prove who knows better no1 knows it all so pls let's have that behind our minds. That said, a parent can support their child in the sense that the funds can be in the parents account and if the child happens to be going with his or her family(dependants) it means the funds in the parents account should show that it would be enough to cater for their child and his dependants. This should be accompanied by a letter from the parents however to make d application straight forward it is advisable for the main applicant to just have the funds in his or her account. Simple

The only issue with this is that it is YOUR OPINION and not what the guidelines says.

Does it even sound right to you that you are referring to a Main applicant ( who has a DEPENDANT ) as child?

You are using the word ‘child’ to describe a fully matured man who not only has a wife, but the wife is his DEPENDANT.

Like I said, that is entirely your own personal ‘common sense opinion/interpretation’ but that is not what the guideline says.

justwise:


I still maintain everything I said on this issue, you don’t have to take it but I disagree with you.
Move on because you can’t convince me on this.

I don’t need to convince you on this. I think the other fella has done justice to it, by providing links and screenshots.

Of course you can maintain it, but it is incorrect.
Human beings can sometimes get a few things wrong, occasionally. Just like you did on this one.

I hope that the person who asked the initial question is able to sieve between Justwise's personal opinions vs UKVI guidelines.

justwise:


I completely disagree with you on this, the rule is not clear on this issue and it’s a loophole which can be explored.

I promised to move ahead.
I thought you would admit that you got it wrong (or probably mixed up a bit).
It would appear you are adamant.


How clear do you want the rule to be?
I saw that someone has graciously provided screen munches and link to the guidelines.

I would expect that for a PBS system, you all that is required is for an applicant to cross the Ts and dot the I’s. To do what the guideline says, rather than do what the guidelines did not say, just because someone feels there are loopholes.

I think you are mixing these things up.
The use of the word ‘Sponsor’ by you shows clearly that you are mixing it up.

Guidelines stipulates funds to be in main applicant or dependant applicant’s name. Shikena.
Any other 3rd party is counterfeit.....

LagosismyHome:


Your mother will work for the main applicant as a parent

but for your dependent the rule is : You must have proof you have the money, and that it’s been in your bank account or your dependant’s bank account for at least 28 days before you or they apply. Please do not use your mother account for your dependent

SOURCE:
https://www.gov.uk/tier-4-general-visa/family-members

LagisIsMyHome had already provided the answer to this. Including a valid link on the UKVI website, which clearly stated that Money must be in DEPENDANT or MAIN APPLICANT’s account.
That is very clear.
But Justwise’s argument was that that portion did not outrightly exclude Mother-in-Law’s account.

Even after drawing his attention, he went on.

My dear brother Justwise, I understand that sometimes one mixes up Tier 4 vs Visitor vs Tuwr 2 etc...
On this matter, on tier-4 you were wrong.
Mother in law’s bank account CANNOT be used for daughter in-law applying as DEPENDANT of mother in law’s son.

Let’s move beyond this, and see how we can be able to help other applicants with other questions.

As for this matter, even if 1,000,000 cover letters are written, it’s a NO NO NO.

Let’s move on

justwise:


You are obviously deliberately misleading people here because i never say that and i also stated that the mother can transfer the money into the son's account then they can apply together, did you read that part?

There its again



One of the reasons why i hardly type lengthy answers here is because people can't be bothered to read beyond two lines.


You completely misconstrue everything i wrote here for reasons best know to you

Please do well to continue with the short answers, especially if the long ones make you to write a good answer in paragraph 1, then go ahead to mess up the good answer in paragraph 2

justwise:
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If that is your understanding then great go ahead and do that

I don’t need to do that because I follow UKVI rules not Justwise’s gut feelings.

justwise:




I said this in my first reply here but it seems that people don't read that part

How can you give a sound advice in paragraph 1.
Then go ahead to give a rubbish advise in paragraph 4.
Then proceed to insist, even after several to-and-fro that a daughter in law can use a mother in law’s bank statement?

Nobody is disputing your first advice. It’s the second part of your advice that is not right.

iamfelixy:
My school sent 2 CAS to me,I paid €4000 it reflects on the first CAS, AND €3975 on the second cas, stating that charges has been deducted.

Please guys would there be issues if I go with the one stating €4000

Which one was sent last?
What was the other information provided when they sent the second one?
Why would you want to use the first when there has been a second (which may suggest that the first was an error?)


My candid advise:
Send an email to the school and ask them why they sent you 2 different CAS and which one are you supposed to use.
(Eventhough I have a feeling you know that the second over-rode the first, but you just want to test the waters).

justwise:


Show me where in student visa guideline that it mentioned that a mother can not sponsor her son and daughter inlaw when the son is the main applicant.

Okay ohh.
Justwise has changed the guidelines to now allow sons and daughter in-laws to use the bank statement of their mother-in-laws to apply for tier-4 dependant visa.

Let me ququ ma go and use my father’s bank account to apply for dependant visa for my son.

All I need to do (according to Justwise) is for my dad to write a letter that the money in HIS account is available for his GRANDSON whose father is a Tier-4 applicant himself.

justwise:
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Yes and if he is going to use bank loan it will be for both of them unless he wants to travel alone.

If he uses a bank loan, the account statement will be in the name of?

A. main Applicant
B. Dependant
C. Mother in Law
D. The Bank

justwise:


The same way its not written anywhere that a mother can not sponsor his son and daughter inlaw

Justwise,
I understand you want to argue on this matter as though it were an academic exercise.
But this your post is outrightly misleading.

I put it to you that your statement here is misleading. The guideline is CLEAR, very CLEAR on how proof of funds for a DEPENDANT can be got. Mother in Law is NOT, repeat NOT, I repeat NOT eligible to submit her account statement for her daughter in law.

I’m surprised that you are using YOUR OWN LOGIC to advice this guy, rather than direct him to the guidelines.

justwise:
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Yes and if he is going to use bank loan it will be for both of them unless he wants to travel alone.

I am an old man, and my memory seem to be failing me. I do not recall the OP saying he wanted to use a Bank Loan.


Let us assume (without conceding) that he wishes to use a bank loan. Whose account statement will he submit? His own. In his name. Besides as per the T4 guidelines, if he has the money in his account for 28 days will there be somewhere on the statement to say it was a bank loan?

Why are you bringing bank loan issue into this?

justwise:


If the student visa rule allows an applicant to use bank loan then what is wrong with using his mother's money for such application?

Oh No... the issue is not about him using HIS mother’s money.

The issue is about him using his mothers money to apply for HIS own DEPENDANT.

justwise:


Yes i saw that but still doesn't make much of a difference, he has to add his birth certificate if he is using his mum's bank statement and not transferring the money and his mum has to add a cover letter to support his application. The most important thing here is to convince the ECO that his mum is truly going to make that money available to be spent in the UK

As a grown up adult, a married man even if he is applying a lone question will be asked why the mum is sponsoring him, this is why i stated before that its important for him to convince the ECO that the mum is more than capable to spend such amount on himself and the wife.

How many cover letters is that?
2?
One for her son and one for her daughter in law?

Okay ohh.
If Na be be ECO (which I’m not), I would kick out the application. Something is definitely not right.

Why should an ECO ‘waste’ time to read cover letter from mother-in-law?

What you are suggesting leaves the onus on the ECO to show some ‘understanding’.

But if an ECO is to go by the book, there is nowhere in the guidelines that qualifies a mother-InLaw’s bank statement to be used by a daughter-InLaw who is applying as a dependant.

My final thoughts on this JustWise:
You may not be wrong about this, but leaving the decision to be at the discretion of ECO (after a long cover letter) doesn’t cut it for me at all. Since this is not an academic exercise, I think OP should simply ask his mama to transfer the funds to his account.

Trizadove:


thank you for your response
actually, our schools are different
my school sends transcripts directly to the institution, with the name written on all pages of the transcript
it was even an insider that i rubbed his hands to get my transcript scanned to me, that was why i got the one wt me that year. trying to avoid the cost, but seems i will request for a new one now

Please Trizadove what school is that?

In this era of online application and upload of transcripts into application portal.

I’m sure if you try to tell your school that your prospective school wants the transcripts scanned, they will refuse and tell you that’s how they have been doing it since 18-MungoPark.

Ola9292:
Please I am traveling for my masters with my wife and I am using my mum’s statement of account. Will it work for both of us?

1 sentence advice:

Convince your MUM to transfer ALL the funds (covering you and your wife) into YOUR OWN PERSONAL account.


I swear if I’m the ECO and I see the type of application you have asked on my desk, I will personally pick up the phone to call you (applicant) and ask you if I look like a fool to you.

Your wife is DEPENDANT on YOU who is dependant on your MUM. And it is YOU that wants to go to the UK with a DEPENDANT. Shuooo....

The use of parents account is because you are dependant (so to speak) on your parents. The use of Mother-inlaw’s account is what?
This is cracking me up real bad.

justwise:


Why not, as long as the money is enough for the couple, transfer the money to the main applicant's account and apply together.

It will not be out of place for the embassy to have some doubt about the possibility of the mother expending that much on her son and daughter inlaw. To clear that..pay the fees and drop deposit for accommodation.

Lastly..during the interview main applicant should be able to explain if asked what the mother does for job and that the money will be available for them to be spent in the UK.

Justwise,
Kindly read what you wrote (bolded by me) and place it in context of the original question.

justwise:


Why not?

Justwise:
Are you saying MY wife can use money in MY OWN MUMMY’s account for her prove if funds?


That means if my wife is the main applicant and she uses money in her FATHER’s account, then I too can use money in my FATHER IN LAW’s account?

Wow... I never knew that was possible.

Trizadove:


Thank you so much,Are you saying my transcript addressed to another school in Canada can suffice? I have diploma statement of result, my BSC certificate is ready. Am I good to go?



Thank you so much
I need my undergrad transcript to apply for my MSC
Since you said its not necessary, I would just send my BSC certificate alongside my application.
I'm grateful

In my former school, transcripts are not addressed to a school ON THE TRANSCRIPT itself. Only the back of the envelope.
If you can get your transcript. Scan it in good quality scan. Upload it (where necessary) on the application portal. You are good to go.



Follow what the application portal of your prospective school says. If he said it’s not necessary, he is speaking about his own experience. His own school. Not yours.

Chinlin:
This tuberculosis test for uk visa.. is it sputum test or x-ray?
Another thing is, for someone that recently conducted medical examinations(xray and blood tests) in the same IOM for another country but was refused visa, does the person still need to do another test for uk?
Or can’t they use the records they have?

1. Chest X-Ray
2. Common sense would think that the answer is yes. With UKVI, sometimes common sense isn’t common (those people head dey touch). I would pay and do another test for UK visa. I no wan hear stories that touch...