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huxley:
I have dealt with this stupid injunction from Jesus on this thread . Jesus was an ignoramus as is obvious from nearly all his pronouncements.

Huxley so you believe Jesus is real?

Its a start hun

Chrisbenogor:
I guess you have nothing to say ladyT.
Good night y'all.

what did you ask me?

duduspace:
Confusion break back bone, what is equal to death? and what is equal to helping an Ark that was about to fall?
It seems God is not very good in mathematics or probably his definition of equals is different from our definition? but wait a minute, the bible was written for us and not for God abi. Possibly some error in translation?

You're looking for a paradox.

Where is the words you MUST kill?

Death is not the worst thing that can happen to you.

Just ask the guys in Kirikiri

duduspace:
It doesn't "seem" you confuse issues you are actually either confused in reality or stubbornly holding on to positions you cannot defend.
And don't you go around assuming what you know nothing about implying that I go online ferreting for contradictions in the bible, we all grew up listening to all this cock and bull stories but some of use our brains and actually question what we are indoctrinated with.
That is just one example I gave to which you couldn't give a straight answer all the other questions thrown up by others have also never been answered


If only you wouldn't selectively apply your principles or more importantly if only you would learn to question the dogma yu're indoctrinated with.

I cant see what is wrong in loving one another and having peace and knowing when we do die there is a beautiful place of rest.
There are many false teachings and practises but being a true Christian is not about going to Church its a way of life.

No true Christain is HOLY.  We are sinners we make mistakes we do the wrong thing but we are human.

Chrisbenogor:
@david
If you and the OT God and Moses and all that will be there, I think my chances will be better with the likes of Ghandi.
@Lady T
So there is nothing that bothers you about the killings in the bible at all?
Is it moral to keep slaves?

Good question Chris.

Yes it is moral I mean we Nigerians have maids and servants are they not our slaves?
What we must remember is they are not sub-human or animals.

They too must be respected and cared for.

Chrisbenogor:
Busybein,
Hehehehe me I am having fun oh, the God of the bible does not exist , I am just showing people how absurd it is to believe their God is merciful
So make we start na God said you should be put to death if you fail to obey the first set of commandments, tha dude is a monster!    
@ajadrage
And God in his infinite wisdom did not know that love was supposed to exist from the onset, in his infinite wisdom he did not know keeping slaves was wrong, in his infinite wisdom he asked Joshua to kill achan's family.
Dude what are you saying?

No Chris in this life there is hierarchy (an arrangement of objects, people, elements, values, grades, orders, classes, etc., in a ranked or graduated series)
And the bible states very very clearly how slaves and servants must be treated.

Good now you are coming with facts!

duduspace:
I am not upset but I felt your question was an unnecessary one but if you insist on my answering it I do remember the bible saying something like an eye for an eye and whatever that means to you is my answer.

Punishment must be equal to the crime.

Does an eye for an eye mean you must kill?

NO!

Huxley I thank God you are not a Christain.

Because the bible also tells us if your eye causes you to sin pluck it out.

Im sure if you were a Christian you'd have no limbs left.

huxley:
Let us examine the bible standard of morality:

Exodus 21:17  "Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.




Do you agree with the above injunction from the bible?  If not, why not?

huxley:
You are either confused, deluded, ignorant or all three.   Go read ya bible before you come back here.

You are confusing Noah and Moses.

At least come with proper facts and statements.

duduspace:
Selective writing is the more appropriate statement, you don't expect me to be writing the entire bible for you here do you? Why do you ask me the question? you should know what it is? it is in your nature to always confuse and obsfucate issues my point stands that selective justice was applied and even disproportionate  justice IMO but you guys won't hear of it because it questions your belief in God.
But I'm sure you will be quick to point accusing fingers at Allah, Shiva, Krishna or any of the other religion's Gods if there was something like that in their own scriptures.
Hypocrites all of you and always selective in applying your principles.

Why are you getting so upset and refusing to answer my questions?

ajadrage:
Someone would start mentioning the wars of cleansing in the old testament as evidence of the barbarity of the creator, but you forget that the ancient Israel nation was a tool in the hand of the Father to cleanse his land from the abominations that were perpetrated by these nations. Blood for blood, as they were wont to sacrifice human lives, so were their lives required of them by the almighty Justce. Yeah, in his own standards too, Jesus' life became a ransom for sinful and fallen man, thus we do not see further bloodshed from the times of Jesus.

And mind you, millions were not killed in the flood, just the armies of Pharoah when they attempted to harm God's people.

God bless you!!!

Read that Huxley they were not INNOCENT as you claim.

Even in todays science mad world an earthquake or flood where people die is seen as population control.

Chrisbenogor:
LadyT do you honestly believe God will come down in your lifetime?
The kingdom of God has been at hand since or am I missing something here?

Here you people go again.  Darling did I state that?

The fact is none of us know when the time will come no date was given.  All we can do is take each day as it comes learn from our mistakes seek the truth and do good.

The only thing certain to me is death that I know will come to me.  God coming down in my lifetime  

huxley:
How could you say God is merciful when he has killed millions of people, women and innocent children included, not sparing the poor animals too.  Is this the act of a merciful being, or don't you know the meaning of the word merciful?

Who has he killed?

Stop making blind statements come out with facts.

busybein:
maybe u should consider inviting d same God in a law court and ask him this questions?

duduspace:
You are now all singing discordant tunes meaning that you are only trying to justify your position at all cost. someone says it is forgivenes, another says it is symbolism of the ark, somebody else says my post is flawed when I only asked a simple question and painted a scenario when God himself gave the commandment saying thou shalt not kill and never gave a commandment saying thou shalt not lift up the ark if it falls.

He said thou shalt not kill yes you are very right.  
What is the consequence of killing another?
Selective reading once again.

Can you tell us?

Dudu your post is flawed.

I cant see what you are trying to drive at.

He had someone killed and he was punished and the one thing he wanted most out of this world he was not given the grace to do the grace was pasted to his son.

God is a merciful God is it us humans (me included) who are blood thirsty wicked and unforgiving.

By all means question Christianity seek answers but please don't argue blindly.

duduspace:
But isn't that a bit of selective justice on God's part? why God no strike am down immediately as he did to the person who tried to help in lifting the ark of covenant when it stumbled?
If you were a judge and this two people were brought before you who would you kill and who would you give a light punishment?

1. Someone killed a man and started to panaki the wife
2. Your property was about to suffer some damage and someone rescued it

It does look somehow doesn't it, and that is just one example.

No one is even forcing them to believe but this selective reading is just silly at least come with a decent argument!

duduspace:
Murdered a man and stole his wife too, if my memory serves me right.

Yes he did and he paid! Stop your selective reading abeg!

This will be fun!

I have a lot of gifts to give!

BRB

LMAO great thread!

duduspace:
Husshhh, , be careful in accusing our dear Rev/Pastor/Bro/etc David, people might think you're trying to soil his impecabble character.
Though it is interesting to learn that our Dear David might be going down the path of his namesake in the bible (remember Uriah's wife) talking about all those "filthy" parts of the human anatomy in other sections of the site.
Please let us allow him to come out of the closet at his own time and not force anything.

So your genitals are now filthy parts of your body?

WOW!

I take it many of you missed out on simple education this is why simple concepts are hard for you to grasp.

*shrugs*

duduspace:
@Huxley,

That is some serious sh**t you dug up back there, I'm going back to do some research to verify this.

Some sort of clone then perhaps? remember the guy who was asking about the Holy Spirit and Sperm?
not to worry, very soon you'll be telling me its some kind of mystery understandable only by some pastors e.t.c.

I agree Chika!

huxley:
Why don't you cut out all this shilly shallying and answer the questions? Was (Is) Jesus the same as God? Am I correct to use these names interchangeably? If not, why not?

Ok Huxley darling God and Jesus are not the same. Just as father and Son are not the same. Same source but two different beings. Are you getting it now?

Is this too hard a concept for you to grasp?

Huxley I know you are a grown man please act like one.

An entity is something that has a distinct, separate existence.

huxley:
My goodness!!!! Did you read the context of Lev 27. Let me inform you (hope no one is reading, as this might be a bit embarassing). It is talking about things that are offered to god (Jesus) as sacrificial objects. Have a look again:

Let me humour you. Why is Jesus asking that a person that has been devoted to him must be put to death? Why is Jesus calling for the killing of humans here? What is the context of this injunction in your opinion?

Everything you have posted shows you know nothing.

Jesus did not say any of this.

You have no points at ALL!

When did God become Jesus?

Im being stupid even trying to talk to you.

Its ok you dont have to believe I dont care.

But what I care about is your health, I can tell you are under the influence of drink and drugs please stop

Get violent?

You do realise this is the internet?

Or have you smashed your computer/laptop screen in a rage?

You have gone so off point its embrassing.

huxley:
Thank goodness you called it trash or RUBBISH. That is exactly what I think it is. It is from the bible as I did not make it up. Check it out. I am glad you agree with me that the bible is trash.

If you don't agree, I would be much oblige with your understanding of leviticus 27: 29.

Thankx

When did putting someone to death mean human sacrifice?

I feel sorry for you

huxley:
I take it that you have never read leviticus 27. Here we go:

26 " 'No one, however, may dedicate the firstborn of an animal, since the firstborn already belongs to the LORD; whether an ox [k] or a sheep, it is the LORD's. 27 If it is one of the unclean animals, he may buy it back at its set value, adding a fifth of the value to it. If he does not redeem it, it is to be sold at its set value.

28 " 'But nothing that a man owns and devotes [l] to the LORD -whether man or animal or family land—may be sold or redeemed; everything so devoted is most holy to the LORD.

29 " 'No person devoted to destruction [m] may be ransomed; he must be put to death.
30 " 'A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the LORD; it is holy to the LORD. 31 If a man redeems any of his tithe, he must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 The entire tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd's rod—will be holy to the LORD. 33 He must not pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If he does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.' "


I submit that verse 29 is a recipe for human sacrifice. Don't you agree?

RUBBISH stop spreading trash!

All I can say about this is please shut up moaning. You big baby

Adam why do you need to post like a jerk off?