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When you learn a language from birth or there after, you do not know how difficult it is to learn it later in life.

Great job.

Shalommy:
Tell me more, my man. Chaii

I just found out myself but I will be researching it more. Very proud of it.

I wish I knew in all these donkeys years we were dancing Calypso in school. More Trini Winy Tiny girls could have fallen by claiming ownership. It does not matter that I am neither Erik nor Ibibio but I love Edikang Ikong.

So!

Kaiso is a type of music popular in Trinidad and Tobago, and other countries, especially of the Caribbean, such as Grenada, Belize, Barbados, St. Lucia and Dominica, which originated in West Africa particularly among the Efik and Ibibio people of Nigeria, and later evolved into calypso music.

I did not know that:

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Some of the flies following them to the grave must be included in front of the firing squad.

Each time you see abject poverty anywhere in Africa, blame it on Nigerian politicians first before individual countries.

If these do or die followed the days of Nkrumah, Azikiwe, Awolowo, Balewa and Animu Kano; the is no way Nigeria would be in this mess.

Nigeria that stood up for all Africans at home and Diaspora gave birth to cowheads. Even Ants plan their population and resources better than Nigerians.

We were too busy beating our chests on past glories and achievements nobody contributed to.

Just look at the glorification of Presidential candidates and praises of ghetto called progress as magnificient records.

No wonder our best talents are selling one another and selves into slavery with their life savings.

This is big in world press.

Another used nega bit the dust.

African politicians take note

This is deeper than inferiority complex.

Africans that voluntarily japa to sell their organs, would not sell their talents at any price? In this case stolen skills from developing countries. There are no slave ships forcing Africans in. It costs a life savings to buy a ticket.

Nigerians go for the highest bidder, no matter where their skill or labor is needed. I keep on saying it, do not train doctors by other countries' standards. Our medical needs are primarily infectious and parasitic diseases that can be treated by more Community Health Officers. These japa doctors know more about exotic foreign diseases than African diseases.

Do not blame doctors alone, most Nigerians want to earn British or U.S money without investing at home. The first million or less a Nigerian makes is to buy ticket asking for where he can invest outside Africa. Looters steal billions to take out.

Do not forget, Nigerians rejected cassava bread that can be source at home for wheat bread sourced outside home. The same is true of most things, even when Europeans and Americans pay more for organic foods we mostly grow at home.

You were born African, you want to be white, eh. You will pay through your nose. High tech slavery, no be small.

Dog wey wan loss, no dey hia wisslu.

There are sincere arguments on both sides but it should saddens every African that we still think importation on free liberal market is our Salvation.

Yes, China paid a price for closed market but in the end there is economic progress to show for it. It went from famine to food export.

China sucked import of factories in with cheap labor. By the time USA realized that they depend on China cheap import, it was too late. Even ordinary Covid-19 products like mask have to be rebuilt at a higher cost at home.

My question is if Nigerians have been suffering based on cheap imports like food, machineries and labor forever, how much more price are we willing to pay, for how many more years?

China and other Asian countries paid for their closed markets. Indeed, no country including USA has an open market, they have selective open market. Listen to their politicians on both sides rail against free market!

Why do Africans use their intellect to argue for dependency, free and open market when no other developed or middle wealth country does?

All for self-interest that has never moved any country forward. What have we gained from Structural Adjustments, Devaluations and importation of used goods, garbage and foreign skills called expatriates.

They sold us Structural Adjustments and Devaluations using our foreign graduates from their universities to back them up and apologize for Structural Adjustments later.

Which African country has ever recovered?

Here we go again!

Some people will never stop until they liquidate Nigeria patapata.

Atiku wants to sell all assets owned by Nigeria.

Obi wants to open Nigeria yash wider for foreign bangers.

Tinubu wants to see Biden as USA spy so that all the money stolen can remain safe in America. He should go and ask Noriega.

Poor Nigeria, everyone for himself, nobody for the people because many are daft.

It was this same liberation of the economy that turned us into abject poverty by importing garbage and emptying foreign reserve.

They call it different names.

Even those of you that have never seen an airport or see the walls of any college would call Sowore names you do not understand.

The only way you can qualify to be a Presidential candidate in Nigeria is to be a SCAM or certificate FORGER.

Which of the Presidential candidates has more integrity and character more than Sowore?

But then, Sowore is not a looter, terrorist, ritualist or a drug peddler.

Just an activist.

Youths joblessness could lead to Anarchy or Youths joblessness has already led to Anarchy.

We are on a slippery slop, gripped by Vagabonds-In-Power. Nobody knows the end of the barrel.

Just look at our choices for President.

Jesus, Jesus, Jesus!

Please leave him out of this

How many of them did he marry?

Blue86:
As the man before said, that if you knew the behavior of this people searching for husbands, you would pity the husbands.

I will also add, most of this women searching for husbands, are searching for husbands in the form of a fat bank account.
Which probably won't look their way, bit just to sleep with them.


But if people followed Christ Jesus, and listen to his leadings, he will guide them to lie down in peace.

PS : Believing in Jesus is not the same as walking with Jesus.
However walking with Jesus starts with believing in Him.

Some of these guys were born or grew up there but because of their names we call them Nigerians.

Understood, their mentality and culture are far from those of Nigerians.

It does not mean we do not have enough of our local criminals. Let Americans deal with their own devils.

sharone21:
There is nothing wrong in adopting children....'Children don't have sin'.

For those advocating that the adoption should be kept secret, we all know eg Flavour adopted a boy from Liberia who is growing fine and to being a handsome man

My little concern is in the area of inheritance, will the adopted children get equal share like the biological one or they should just be give something to at least get by in life?

Just asking and I need intelligent response.

The best time to show appreciation to children and adopted children is through inheritance. How much are you willing to give a child that called kidnapper on you because he thinks you are "stingy "?

Please do not blame Op for speaking from personal experience. The way a kid turns out depends not only on genetic but also environmental factors.

It is nature v. nurture.

The majority of those that brought Nigeria down today, in drugs and rituals have legitimate fathers and mothers.

Many fathers and mothers will tell you that out of all their children, those taking care of them today are adopted children from outside or from relatives.

Bestcreamreview:
Your points are not valid at all because many children who grew up with their real parents end up doing yahoo, cultism and other vices. Adoption is not the reason they ended up like that, I can't believe someone would come up with something like this, it makes zero sense, I don't know how some of you think

Keep up the hate and abuses, it is the best way to get Yoruba votes.

Look, many Igbo came to the West with only singlet on their back. poor and broke, they had to find jobs the next day after generous accommodation by their brother or if lucky as helps with Yoruba.

They did not come with a penny.

School cert salary was 15 pounds a month, boiboi about 6 pounds.

Igbo were not the only ones that lost lives and properties, all their properties were kept and returned to Igbo in the West.

Many lost their lives in the hands of Igbo soldiers fron Cross River, Rivers to Midwest.

They were not given 20 pounds to start all over, only Igbo did. Awo was accused of trying to buy their votes.

See what Igbo think about 20 pounds today.

Only a fool living in Nigeria will believe this Fulani suckered fact check.

AK-47 issued and bought for Fulani herdsmen roaming around the country cannot be in possession of Katshina security for fear that disgrunted Boko Haram may attack Buhari again as they did in Kaduna?

Are you nuts up your nose?

We should feel sorry for Nigeria where we have looters and drug dealers competing for the President. They are the same ethnic groups since the beginning of Nigeria. Fulani, Yoruba and Igbo. If they are not in charge, they dominate the cabinet.

The other ethnic groups that make up the majority of Nigerians are relegated to the back. The love of looters and drug dealers have obscured sincere activists that Nigerians are not interested in.

Polls are used and manipulated to dispute the only votes that matters on the election day. The polls can then be used as pretext for rigging.

Nobody can blackmail Nigerians you hate to vote for them by force. If you want their votes, love them first, not hate them.

Olu317,

Oh yes, some of them are here. But no one of them have been able to contradict your version of history. You know they are watching!

Olu317:
Well if you believe it then know it is the truth.Although some people will come up with their own version about Oyo's false accounts. But fact is that Olugbon, Aresa , onikoyi and four others were born by Yeyesuse in Igbo Iwara ife.

Adelogbon founded Igbon....There was a saying in the ancient time,
" Olugbon n gbebo, yeye re n gba pese" Ba esua ,Oroloto, Aresa, baba okunoye, Aroni Ako, Olukoyi Omo Eru Ofa."

Let their descendants add inputs to their ancestors history. It is definite,they are here online.

Olu17 your information makes sense. Onikoyi and Aresa made it all the way to Eko or Lagos. What about Olugbon?

What is the Oriki of Olugbon, Aresa and Onikoyi, is it different or similar?

Olu317:
Authentic oral verified account. Ṣọun is not ọyọ́ or ọlọ́yọ́ descendants.

You didn't even allow me to edit the information I am posting to be well arranged before your response. .

Besides, the Olúgbọn, Aresà, Onikóyi, Ọlọ́yọ́ are cousins through the household of Oduduwa.

Painful experience. A friend changed the first and the last name because the father was irresponsible.

The father's family was wealthy and the son spent one holiday with the father's mother once. He came back glowing about how rich the grandmother was.

The mother asked him one question as a kid: how much have they contributed to your being?

Since then, the son was happy to bear his mother's name.

Nothing sweat a white man pass than making love to their slaves in secret. They even sell their own children that came out of it into slavery.

Now that Charles the III son Harry is doing it legally and openly, they wan die. No wonder they lynched Black men that did it to their luring women inside out.

E pain dem no be small.

fman:
Link oo!!!
Abeg.
Make I believe u
Else forgerrit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5frsIsxhQpo

This one is also figment of imagination abi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5frsIsxhQpo

Minjim:
This is just a figment of of dilusional imagination.
You think if such truly occur the eagle eye journalists and phographers around won't notice it?
It's only you watching on TV that'll now notice it

http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=2305

Oduduwa must have been here before Christ, going by parallel archeology of the Yoruba, Egypt, Greece and Rome with the history in the Bible or the Koran. Unless those before him were many centuries old before he was born! He traveled through the Nile river, spread Yoruba civilization and religion. Yoruba, named in Arabic writing noted them for their religion, before their present country brothers became aware of them. See Beginning of Ethnic Formation. During Oduduwa�s exploration, he had children Yoruba usually name AdeTokunbo, Omowale, Magbagbeile and others overseas. He was revered because his descendants were kingdom builders and they also unified the Yorubas. Oduduwa proved his Ife royal blood by displaying his crown, a book in verses and an obelisk. Zo Giwa mentioned these three items in his article.

Olu317, thank you very much.

There was this article I cannot get hold of right now that logically claimed there must be Oduduwa Before Christ. It could not be the same Oduduwa from Ifa that came after Obatala and United the Yoruba.

I think the article was Yoruba World Exploration but I will read up on it again.

Olu317:
Hahaha, I do not know where Professor Olupona got his detail o.Baba Akinjogbin even mentioned that there were two kings during 46th king era which were prior to Obalufon II era.

Both Oral historians and research based fact have different views as relate to Ifẹ history. The fact is that Òogún own Adé Are being worn by Ooni of Oduduwa household ancestors and not Obatala or Ora ifẹ.

Ora ifẹ is the first settler and followed by Òogún. This is the reason Ora ifẹ is deified as the oldest in ifẹ historical account.

Where did Prof. Olupona get 101 kings from if Yoruba had only about 4 family heads unified by the king who took his name from Ifa as Oduduwa?

Oke Ora was supposed to be where Alias Oduduwa came from

Please explain.

Olu317:
What Professor Akintoye wrote is not correct as regard certain information on Iléifẹ history. Infact the Ọ̀bà history being circulated is absolutely false as it concerns ancient era.

The founder of Ọ̀bà,will shock to your bone that this city was founded by Ora ifẹ descendants. Verifying their most revered traditional ancestors pitch this tradition of ọ̀bà people to Obálúfọn.The same Ọ̀bálufọn is a paternal descendant of Ora.

You see, there are flaws in many of the oral accounts of Yoruba kingdoms simply because, everyone want association with Odùduwa dynasty. Unfortunately,this is partially wrong even if there are intermarriages between the principal lineages that came to be ifẹ groups, yet distinction still exists.

The dynasty being referred as pre Odùduwa era was not a unified system but a chosen rotational system which is rotated among the thirteen groups. These same thirteen groups came out from four set up even lesser than four if we probe further but not one source.

In proper set up, Odùduwa ancestors are distinct lineage from Ora mfẹ. Infact the name odùduwa is a copied or reincarnated one from the heavenly odùduwa in Ifa corpus who was without human birth that descended via chain-ẹ̀wọ̀n-Òogún. The proper place of Odùduwa ancestors land is called Obìrì in Owàra or Iwàra or Iwàran
Aptly posits as Owàragún or Iwàragun or IwàraÒogún. The pioneer Òogún, a mighty spirtual warrior established the household of Odùduwa in ancient Iléifẹ.

Ifá corpus mentioned this city as the city where overall king will come from when a particular being Orúnmìlà birthed his children who were eight in numbers and gave them names accordingly.

So putting Ọ̀bà affront of Yorùba history is a fabrication to suit some quarters,in just the manner that nearly all Ekitis kings claims Odùduwa paternal ancestry which is basically false because many of these Baalẹ turned kings are Oramfẹ paternal descendants and odùduwa families members maternal descendants.

In Ifá corpus, Éjìgbomẹ̀kun is a the major market being known and this market is linked to ancient Iléifẹ and Ọ̀bà is no where to be found among the earliest cities among the eight cities founded by Orúnmìlà descendants.


Cheers

Unfortunately, she did not bring her twin sister in because she has none.

But one of her friends or enemies would sneak in making it two for too.

One of them would still cheat. Once you start getting it from two, the next one is easier.