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Lagosians know the difference between Tinubu and SanwoOlu.

You get it?

didroon43:
Hmm... what does this mean!

Lagosians know the difference between Otedola and his opponent when they made him Governor.

Again Lagosians know the difference between APC Tinubu and APC SanwoOlu.

Do not mess with Lagosians. Their silence must not be taken for granted.

O To Ge!

Honestly, I think Ndi-Igbo have overstepped their boundaries.

Yoruba must be careful and deal with them jejely. The wrath of Yoruba must not spill blood.

We are not violent people until pushed.

Please vote your wish and let atounrinwa be ashamed.

There are reasonable Igbo within us.

Na Ogun ai take beg una.

Interesting but need more contributors. If you look at the silver lining, rejection of Tinubu in Lagos is an eye opener.

The fear now is the lack of consensus on Adediran or Doherty.

ImperialYoruba,

Well said.

I am sure you remember Mama Oye, the one in Iya Oye song mother of Yinka Rhodes by Ebenezer Obey. Apart from their Yoruba root, they also have roots in Ghana or Togo.

To your point. A song got my attention in a Cuban store once. It was a Yoruba dialect I could only make out a few words. Then in many Brazilian religious ceremonies, they sing in Yoruba.

If those ones can trace their Yoruba ORIKI through songs and religion, why not returned Africans?

It is nothing but inferiority complex. The type that banned vernacular in schools. Just like when we were growing up, some of our friends did not speak Yoruba and some spoke in funny accent like Chinedu.

I remember what Magistrate Gbajabiamila said in those days: these kids could neither speak English nor Yoruba. In short, inferiority complex is a devastating disease that eats into the new generation.

When a boy told them his name is Chukwu, he was told that was devil's name. He protested that Chukwu meant God. They baptized him as Godwin. Still remember my Things Fall Apart

ImperialYoruba:
Identity alteration is part of methodology for changing consciousness and subdue the will.
Slave owners across the sea gave their slaves new names.

When Britain declared war against slavery many generations existed bearing new names, and barely had any link left in their ḿemory of their African beginning. For many of them, their tribal link was passed down as a pride of heritage. Those who had not lost their African names or the link back to their homeland were just one or two generations removed from Africa.

Rhodes-Vivor would have been one of those with lost memory of African name, and family roots, all he would know was he came from a Yoruba tribe.

Your point about name adaptation and voluntarily altering one's identity to fit in with a foreign ideology is a valid point, and I agree with you. What I said above is just a recount of the root reason a Rhodes-Vivor came about.

Also, we must give recognition to many returnees who rebelled against their foreign name-identity, and adopted new local names going forward.

I don't believe Rhodes-Vivor knew what their family name was pre-slavery, but I am convinced they were at liberty to also re-immerse fully into their Yoruba identity after settlement in Lagos, but chosed not to. Reason for that is not part of my business.

ImperialYoruba,

You are absolutely right.

But remember most real Lagosians are as guilty. Even those with Yoruba names Anglicized their names (Tokunbo to Toks, Babatunde to Babs)

Vivour and Rhodes have Yoruba names but like many Africans and African American or British, pride themselves on English, Christian or Muslim religions.

Look at the good part of this WakeUp call. It has sensitized and educated us.

Chinedu missed road, no be small O!

ImperialYoruba:
For any person that want to fly GRV in our face as an original Lagosian, I ask what is the depth of his originality in Lagos?

His great grandfather was rescued at sea, or possibly freed from a foreign plantation and resettled in Sierra Leone. Among the freed persons that came from Sierra Leone to settle in Lagos in 1845 forward, Rhodes-Vivor was one of them. He met Ijebu, Oyo, Egba, Ekiti, Awori, Hausa, Tapa already living in Lagos.

Oshodi Tapa served Oba Eshinlokun and some of his sons. I am talking of late 1700s to mid 1800s. By the way, Eshinlokun's grandfather was an Ijesha man. Now we are talking of 1600s into 1700s.

Make una no let me pull out my diary of early Lagos o. Abi una don craze ni?

Tell GRV the real commonwealth is the one his great grandfather met on ground in Lagos, a pan-Yoruba community that existed as an elite society, and with representation from Okun, Offa, Iseyin, Oyo, Ijesha, Ife, Ondo, Owo, Ibadan, Ogbomosho, Egba, Ijebu, Awori, Popo. In extension were the Tapas, the Hausas.

God punish GRV and all una biafrans. We will declare war against terrorism and evacuate all ipobs from our land. You better sit straight and face your spare part income, or you return to that hell hole in Onitsha. Freaks!

The First Obi Of Lagos was Ashipa, a title still active in all Yorubaland at home and abroad. Marrying other ethnic or subYoruba does not cede Lagos to them.

Several attempts to usurp EKO-ILE, From the days of Portugal LAGOS to British and now the last comers accommodated and tolerated in Lagos in the 20th Century.

Go and ask about Ojora Family, they would fight for 100 year until they eventually win. Go find out about their court cases.

This obsession with Lagos and Obi Wake Up Call has sent tolerance ofIgbo in Lagos back a hundred years.

In 1921, Amodu Tijani also known as Chief Oluwa of Lagos along with Nigerian nationalist Herbert Macaulay took British colonialists to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council (JCPC) in London over a case of stolen land.

The Yoruba chief charged that the British had no authority to take control over indigenous Nigerian lands. Thus, he requested that the ownership of the land returned to Nigeria and that the rightful owners be thoroughly compensated.

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/this-nigerian-chief-reclaimed-stolen-lagos-lands-from-the-british-in-1921-after-suing-them-in-london


399 Amodu Tijani Appellant; v. The Secretary, Southern Nigeria Respondent. Privy Council
PC
Viscount Haldane, Lord Atkinson, and Lord Phillimore.
1921 July 11.
On Appeal from the Supreme Court of Nigeria (Southern Province).
Nigeria--Lagos--Native Tenure of Land--White Cap Chiefs--Communal Land-- Acquisition of Land by Government--Compensation--Public Lands Ordinance, 1903 (No. 5 of 1903, Lagos).
The radical title to land held by the White Cap Chiefs of Lagos is in the Crown, but a full usufructuary title vests in a chief on behalf of the community of which he is the head. That usufructuary title was not affected by the cession to the British Crown in 1861; the system of Crown grants must be regarded as having been introduced mainly, if not exclusively, for conveyancing purposes.
Upon the land held by a White Cap Chief being acquired for public purposes under the Public Lands Ordinance, 1903, the compensation is payable on the footing that the chief is transferring the land in full ownership (except so far as it is unoccupied); the compensation is to be distributed among the members of the community of which he is Chief according to the procedure provided by the Ordinance.
Observations with regard to the native tenure of land in West Africa, and as to "stool" lands.
Judgment of the Supreme Court reversed.
APPEAL by special leave from a judgment of the Supreme Court of Nigeria, Southern Province (January 4, 1918), affirming the judgment of Speed C.J.
The appellant was one of the Idejo White Cap Chiefs of Lagos. By a notice dated November 12, 1913, certain lands situated at Apapa were acquired by the Government of the colony under the Public Lands Ordinance (No. 5 of 1903) for public purposes. The appellant as head chief of the Oluwa family claimed compensation on the basis of ownership of the lands. On a summons taken out by the appellant under the Ordinance above named Speed C.J. held that the appellant was entitled to compensation on the basis of his having merely a right of control and management, not on the basis of absolute ownership. That decision was affirmed by*400 the full Court (Speed C.J. and Ross, Webber, and Pennington JJ.)
The material facts appear from the judgment of the Judicial Committee.
Special leave to appeal was granted on June 25, 1918, leave being reserved to the respondent to object at the hearing of the appeal that there was no jurisdiction to grant leave to appeal.
1921. June 6, 7, 9, 21. Hon. Sir William Finlay K.C. and J. A. Johnston for the appellant. Upjohn K.C. and Vernon for the respondent.
In the course of the argument reference was made to Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria v. Holt , both in the Supreme Court [FN1] and on appeal to the Board [FN2]; Oduntan Onisiwo v. Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria [FN3]; to the following unreported decisions in the colony, Callamand v. Vaughan (1878), Ajon v. Efunde(1892), Ohuntan's Case (1908), Taiwo v. Odunsi Sarumi (1913); and to Secretary of State v. Kamachee Boye Sahaba [FN4] and Durga Prashad Singh v. Tribeni Sinyh. [FN5]Also to the Public Lands Ordinance (No. 5 of 1903) and to earlier Ordinances - namely, No. 9 of 1863, No. 10 of 1864, No. 9 of 1865, and No. 9 of 1869 - and to Historical Notices of Lagos by Rev. J. B. Woods (1880), Report of Land Tenure in West Africa by Rayner C.J. (1898), Notes of Evidence taken by the West African Lands Committee (1912-1914), and
Irving's Titles to Lands in Nigeria (1916). FN1 (1910) 2 Nig. L. R. 1.
FN2 [1915] A. C. 599.
FN3 (1912) 2 Nig. L. R. 77.
FN4 (1859) 7 Moo. I. A. 476.
FN5 (1918) L. R. 45 I. A. 275.
July 11. The judgment of their Lordships was delivered by: VISCOUNT HALDANE.

https://www.jurisafrica.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Amodu-Tijani-Case.pdf

Whoever the Speech Writer of Jakande was, she or he was just quoting several attempts to usurp EKO-ILE, From the day of Portugal LAGOS to British and now the last comers accommodated and tolerated in Lagos in the 20th Century.

Go and ask about Ojora Family, they would fight for 100 year until they eventually win. Go find out about their court cases.

This obsession with Lagos and Obi Wake Up Call has sent tolerance ofIgbo in Lagos back a hundred years.

In 1921, Amodu Tijani also known as Chief Oluwa of Lagos along with Nigerian nationalist Herbert Macaulay took British colonialists to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council (JCPC) in London over a case of stolen land.

The Yoruba chief charged that the British had no authority to take control over indigenous Nigerian lands. Thus, he requested that the ownership of the land returned to Nigeria and that the rightful owners be thoroughly compensated.

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/this-nigerian-chief-reclaimed-stolen-lagos-lands-from-the-british-in-1921-after-suing-them-in-london


399 Amodu Tijani Appellant; v. The Secretary, Southern Nigeria Respondent. Privy Council
PC
Viscount Haldane, Lord Atkinson, and Lord Phillimore.
1921 July 11.
On Appeal from the Supreme Court of Nigeria (Southern Province).
Nigeria--Lagos--Native Tenure of Land--White Cap Chiefs--Communal Land-- Acquisition of Land by Government--Compensation--Public Lands Ordinance, 1903 (No. 5 of 1903, Lagos).
The radical title to land held by the White Cap Chiefs of Lagos is in the Crown, but a full usufructuary title vests in a chief on behalf of the community of which he is the head. That usufructuary title was not affected by the cession to the British Crown in 1861; the system of Crown grants must be regarded as having been introduced mainly, if not exclusively, for conveyancing purposes.
Upon the land held by a White Cap Chief being acquired for public purposes under the Public Lands Ordinance, 1903, the compensation is payable on the footing that the chief is transferring the land in full ownership (except so far as it is unoccupied); the compensation is to be distributed among the members of the community of which he is Chief according to the procedure provided by the Ordinance.
Observations with regard to the native tenure of land in West Africa, and as to "stool" lands.
Judgment of the Supreme Court reversed.
APPEAL by special leave from a judgment of the Supreme Court of Nigeria, Southern Province (January 4, 1918), affirming the judgment of Speed C.J.
The appellant was one of the Idejo White Cap Chiefs of Lagos. By a notice dated November 12, 1913, certain lands situated at Apapa were acquired by the Government of the colony under the Public Lands Ordinance (No. 5 of 1903) for public purposes. The appellant as head chief of the Oluwa family claimed compensation on the basis of ownership of the lands. On a summons taken out by the appellant under the Ordinance above named Speed C.J. held that the appellant was entitled to compensation on the basis of his having merely a right of control and management, not on the basis of absolute ownership. That decision was affirmed by*400 the full Court (Speed C.J. and Ross, Webber, and Pennington JJ.)
The material facts appear from the judgment of the Judicial Committee.
Special leave to appeal was granted on June 25, 1918, leave being reserved to the respondent to object at the hearing of the appeal that there was no jurisdiction to grant leave to appeal.
1921. June 6, 7, 9, 21. Hon. Sir William Finlay K.C. and J. A. Johnston for the appellant. Upjohn K.C. and Vernon for the respondent.
In the course of the argument reference was made to Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria v. Holt , both in the Supreme Court [FN1] and on appeal to the Board [FN2]; Oduntan Onisiwo v. Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria [FN3]; to the following unreported decisions in the colony, Callamand v. Vaughan (1878), Ajon v. Efunde(1892), Ohuntan's Case (1908), Taiwo v. Odunsi Sarumi (1913); and to Secretary of State v. Kamachee Boye Sahaba [FN4] and Durga Prashad Singh v. Tribeni Sinyh. [FN5]Also to the Public Lands Ordinance (No. 5 of 1903) and to earlier Ordinances - namely, No. 9 of 1863, No. 10 of 1864, No. 9 of 1865, and No. 9 of 1869 - and to Historical Notices of Lagos by Rev. J. B. Woods (1880), Report of Land Tenure in West Africa by Rayner C.J. (1898), Notes of Evidence taken by the West African Lands Committee (1912-1914), and
Irving's Titles to Lands in Nigeria (1916). FN1 (1910) 2 Nig. L. R. 1.
FN2 [1915] A. C. 599.
FN3 (1912) 2 Nig. L. R. 77.
FN4 (1859) 7 Moo. I. A. 476.
FN5 (1918) L. R. 45 I. A. 275.
July 11. The judgment of their Lordships was delivered by: VISCOUNT HALDANE.

https://www.jurisafrica.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Amodu-Tijani-Case.pdf

While all the attacks between SanwoOku and Vivour dominate online, it is a mystery that

Funso Doherty

has not gained ground.

It looks like APC, PDP and Labor Party obscure Funso Doherty.

What about Funso Doherty folks?

Credit Vivour for putting issues on the table, though some of them are outright outlandish. His opponents must come out and debate the feasibility and counter his proposals.

We must shift the focus from ethnic bashing which is in reaction to Igbo greed that Lagos is within reach.

Lagos is no longer for SALE.

Focus must shift to Doherty and Adediran "Jandor" and compare their own proposals.

But Alpha Beta Must Go!

He had Yoruba name. Google it.

His Christian name is Crowther

a4cube:
If this true why is Crowther his surname?

Most of them were not and have never been slaves. Ajayi Crowther ship was captured on the sea and returned before reaching slave plantation.

English or Portuguese names were not different from Muslim names given after they have been converted to Christianity or Islam.

It was a pride to have Christian or Muslim names throughout Africa. Christians and Muslims, foolishly, still take pride in it today as first or last names.

Most Yoruba know their Yoruba family name and more important, their ORIKI. Any Lagosian without ORIKI or Yoruba names is not from Lagos.

God I do not like Tinubu because of his flawed, soiled and sour character. So unbecoming of a Yoruba leader.

But he won this election! Unfortunately, the same people he made will force him into a run off and he would lose.

Why? Igbo would vote against him massively.

When you eat with a devil or ride the back of a lion to victory ........

Buhari got you again!

Nothing has changed since Fulani continue to Fool Hausa and others that the North is One.

They have decided that power must remain in the North.

Pity those thinking they are voting for Obi or Tinubu, wasting their votes.

Obi is a conduit for Atiku just to get settled positions for himself and his followers like Zik did with Tafawa Balewa.

Tinubu knows Buhari and the North are fooling him.

Nigerians must face Atiku and break the Amalgamation into convenient Regions.

So every move by Tinubu is news

Some of you guys are just sickening

What good is the money to Alamsco now.

Yet, most of us are still ready to do anything for money including risking our lives.

Vanity first by any means and die later!

Finally found this article!

But this author wrote another one about Yoruba ladies. Each culture has their desirable ladies.

However, the money culture has destroyed our morality today.

i dated some igbo chicks, served in Igbo land, married one years later. don't be decieved about niceness, its relative! I can't even recommend one for my brother, if u know the sh!t my nysc roomatr did with engaged and married Igbo women you go hail. so luck up brother, there are good n bad chicks everywhere, no tribe beta pass.

Clap for yourself. If Israel can so it, so can Nigeria. What an achievement eh?

A country that cannot securely print its own money is a satellite nor a country

Since many Nigerians are making money out of the misery of the poor on new naira, which is usual for the big boys, I have been wondering when the Foreign exploiters and their accomplices are going to make foreign cash out of this.

They just gave us an answer!

einsteine:
Israel prints its currency abroad. There is nothing wrong in printing currency abroad.

When I saw - I am getting tired, I know where you are heading.

Peter Obi is part and parcel of the destroyers of this country just as you are. Nigerians are suspects in every country in the world and continues to be. At the risk of death penalty, they have not stop invading other countries.

Where is your welcome mat as you like to fool yourselves?

Until you revolt against your oppressors as others in those countries you love did and build your own country. No Black man will be respected or even welcomed anywhere in the world.

If you like, loot your father, mother and country you will remain at the bottom of the caste system forever.

Sorry, that was s computer auto correct.

Tell us where you are from.

Certainly not from any Royal House IN Edo

gregyboy:
You're edo and so what...

Greyboy, you harbor serious inferiority complex. What is your beef?

Tell us where you come from, certainly not from any royal house I'm Edo.

There are those of us that cannot wait for this Election to be over so that we can face more pressing needs like Abject Poverty and Regional Self Determination.

Tired of all the fake promises

This Abubarka spontaneous confession is the biggest Endorsement Sowore ever got.

But most Nigerian Youths are to naive and blind to understand it.

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Re: Abdulsalami Abubakar: Some Of Us Will Leave Nigeria If Sowore Becomes President by Okealaaye: 8:10pm On Jan 21
Sowore is the genuine youth all the so-called Nigerian youths should have supported instead of the packaged 62-year old forming youth. In the first place, he doesn't have any baggage hanging on his neck and he's more vibrant than most of the others. How old was Zik, Awo, the Sardauna and most of the nationalists of the precolonial years when they became prominent? The Nigerian youths are the most self-defeating eunuchs anywhere in the world. Instead of supporting one of their numbers they keep on whipping up tribal emotions. What a clan of shortsighted fools these are!

You would expect that Indian actors like in other countries have thriller, musical and scary movies. But the ones that have high foreign demand are musicals.

Most Nigerians should be ashamed of the 3 leading Presidential candidates.

We have alternatives across the country that do not have experience in nefarious activities.

Christistruth01:

By the way Gen Theophilus Danjuma’s Father was a Hausa Muslim From Zaria Originally who had

to flee Zaria With his wife for Taraba where he had some relatives after they convertied to Christianity

Thanks for the correction. It also make you wonder how ingrained Fulani domination of Hausa remains.

Not only in Danjuma but with Buhari with Hausa mother. Does it mean that a Yoruba or Igbo wife of Fulani can pursue Usman Dan Fodio mission?

Watch out for El Rufai.

How many years later do we now realize that the reputation that took Buhari to Presidency was not his but that of Idiagbon.

Buhari fooled not only most Nigerians but Idiagbon too who thought he was a patriot.

Buhari a halfbred, actually had nothing solid but remained a religious fundamentalist carrying out the dream of Dan Fodio against Hausa and the rest of Nigeria

He got the opportunity after the first coup help by Gen. Danjuma, who is not even Fulani or Hausa. But exploited and established the distrust of our natural ally.

There are those women that down grade to watch man, gate man, house boy and even invite crazy guy across the street wondering about his dick!

Once the husband or boyfriend finds out, they finance the guy. Are those not women?

Recipe for bondage forever!

Rolings:
You surely dont know how RICH this country is....it only needs someone to unlock the riches....
As long as we still maintain our Capitalist orientations Nothing will happen....the western capitalists will always step in to help.
Argentinians are not leaving their countries as refugees......but Venezuelans were because of socialist posture of the government
As socialist leaning as buhari was he didnt do anything extremely Socialist in nature and as such didnt incur the wrath of western capitalists

Look, I am not going word to word or one to one with uninformed arrogant brats.

As a doctor, you should have known what I mean by jack of all trade. But then, maybe some Nigerian medical schools specialized early as a first degree.

But for those who understand what I mean, they would take it as a compliment.