₦airaland Forum

The Most Civilized Ethnic Group In The World

Scholars throughout the world that have studied the Yoruba Culture and Religion have been intrigued by the ancient history of YORUBA of West Africa. German explorer Leo Frobenius came across some sculpted bronze heads and terracotta figures in Ile-Ife, convinced he had discovered remains of the mythical lost city of Atlantis. Beyond the way Yoruba accommodate other religions and cultures without giving up their own, they have surprised other scholars, so much that doctoral students must be careful how they present dissertations for approval. You may see within the same family a Reverend father, a respectable Imam and a prominent Babalawo. This is a volatile mixture in most cultures.

https://www.modernghana.com/news/1221711/yoruba-united-nation-the-most-civilized-ethnic.html

Nigerians are something else abeg.

When Tai Solari mandated farms for students at Mayflower, some of us hated the school. Then universities started feeding us on small small change, we protested against bad and monotonous food. OBJ cancelled the damn thing. See us noaw, Abi.

Why can't universities do CRISP, Nuclear, History at the same time let Nutrition dept. handle foods production instead of Zimbabwe white farmers that ditch their country. Shey, wheat na local production since unable nor want eat agbado bread?

After winning Lagos in the Presidential Election, he went to Alaba to thank those who voted for him and brought Gbadebo Chinedu on his cocktail.

They actually believed it was the Igbo votes that make up "99%" of Lagos population and pay all the taxes that voted for Obi in their dreams.

Of course it was nightmares.

In retrospect, it was a mistake for Obi to bank on Take Lagos Take All. Lagos is a Prize state but not Nigeria. The Presidential vote demonstrated the votes of fair minded and detribalized people that exercised their rights to vote regardless of creed or ethnicity.

You cannot praise them during Presidential Election and demonize the same people after for demonstrating their preferred choice.

If Obi lost his State and only won Abia or maybe one more in the South East so far in the Gubernatorial Election, he lacks basic solid support his handlers echoed on social media.

Well meaning and reasonable supporters know that but others think force, intimidation and excessive exuberance can earn them what they want.

A lesson for Tinubu, Atiku and Obi.

Go back and read what you wrote. Some people think you suffer from blind spots. But it is intentional and deliberately indifference. Nothing more vicious.

Even within yourselves your clannish behavior is unprecedented. When Lagosians voted massively for Peter Obi, it was based on tribal and religious grounds?

What is incredible is that you guys believe yourselves!

chivic:
Actually Lagos took the headline because it was only in Lagos that tugs where hired to ensure ethnic cleansing.It was only in Lagos that we saw a semblance of xenophobia attack against non passived Yoruba.It was only in Lagos that a market belonging mainly to non indigenes was burnt down because some people felt that it was only igbos that voted against Tinubu as if people do not have right to make thier choice in a democracy.
There was great violence in Rivers and massive rigging in other places like Kaduna and imo but non was tribalized.Tribal sentiments or religious sentiment can brake a nation.

Wow!

But for this single and only advert, Obi could have won.

Some people are so so silly, would hold unto a straw to survive. Ndi Ara.

I commend your good intention. There were worse adverts everywhere here and outside Nairaland.

I hope you understand that no matter what your good inention is, you can only do your best. It is good for good conscience.

But note, you can never please most of the Ndi Igbo. They will seize on it and find fault.

Well done Seun. More grace to your Elbow.

Sigh of relief.

This is legal cigarettes folks. It could be worse. I remember that in the late 60s Nigerian smokers used to crave for Nigerian made cigarettes in England. The problem here is the quantity.

Seriously, every Igbo know what their parents taught them about Yoruba and every Yoruba know what their parents taught them about how to be kind to strangers.

No need for denials, fingers pointing or projections.

Igbo know and Yoruba know how we got here.

Lagosians know the difference between Tinubu and SanwoOlu.

You get it?

didroon43:
Hmm... what does this mean!

Lagosians know the difference between Otedola and his opponent when they made him Governor.

Again Lagosians know the difference between APC Tinubu and APC SanwoOlu.

Do not mess with Lagosians. Their silence must not be taken for granted.

O To Ge!

Honestly, I think Ndi-Igbo have overstepped their boundaries.

Yoruba must be careful and deal with them jejely. The wrath of Yoruba must not spill blood.

We are not violent people until pushed.

Please vote your wish and let atounrinwa be ashamed.

There are reasonable Igbo within us.

Na Ogun ai take beg una.

Interesting but need more contributors. If you look at the silver lining, rejection of Tinubu in Lagos is an eye opener.

The fear now is the lack of consensus on Adediran or Doherty.

ImperialYoruba,

Well said.

I am sure you remember Mama Oye, the one in Iya Oye song mother of Yinka Rhodes by Ebenezer Obey. Apart from their Yoruba root, they also have roots in Ghana or Togo.

To your point. A song got my attention in a Cuban store once. It was a Yoruba dialect I could only make out a few words. Then in many Brazilian religious ceremonies, they sing in Yoruba.

If those ones can trace their Yoruba ORIKI through songs and religion, why not returned Africans?

It is nothing but inferiority complex. The type that banned vernacular in schools. Just like when we were growing up, some of our friends did not speak Yoruba and some spoke in funny accent like Chinedu.

I remember what Magistrate Gbajabiamila said in those days: these kids could neither speak English nor Yoruba. In short, inferiority complex is a devastating disease that eats into the new generation.

When a boy told them his name is Chukwu, he was told that was devil's name. He protested that Chukwu meant God. They baptized him as Godwin. Still remember my Things Fall Apart

ImperialYoruba:
Identity alteration is part of methodology for changing consciousness and subdue the will.
Slave owners across the sea gave their slaves new names.

When Britain declared war against slavery many generations existed bearing new names, and barely had any link left in their ḿemory of their African beginning. For many of them, their tribal link was passed down as a pride of heritage. Those who had not lost their African names or the link back to their homeland were just one or two generations removed from Africa.

Rhodes-Vivor would have been one of those with lost memory of African name, and family roots, all he would know was he came from a Yoruba tribe.

Your point about name adaptation and voluntarily altering one's identity to fit in with a foreign ideology is a valid point, and I agree with you. What I said above is just a recount of the root reason a Rhodes-Vivor came about.

Also, we must give recognition to many returnees who rebelled against their foreign name-identity, and adopted new local names going forward.

I don't believe Rhodes-Vivor knew what their family name was pre-slavery, but I am convinced they were at liberty to also re-immerse fully into their Yoruba identity after settlement in Lagos, but chosed not to. Reason for that is not part of my business.

ImperialYoruba,

You are absolutely right.

But remember most real Lagosians are as guilty. Even those with Yoruba names Anglicized their names (Tokunbo to Toks, Babatunde to Babs)

Vivour and Rhodes have Yoruba names but like many Africans and African American or British, pride themselves on English, Christian or Muslim religions.

Look at the good part of this WakeUp call. It has sensitized and educated us.

Chinedu missed road, no be small O!

ImperialYoruba:
For any person that want to fly GRV in our face as an original Lagosian, I ask what is the depth of his originality in Lagos?

His great grandfather was rescued at sea, or possibly freed from a foreign plantation and resettled in Sierra Leone. Among the freed persons that came from Sierra Leone to settle in Lagos in 1845 forward, Rhodes-Vivor was one of them. He met Ijebu, Oyo, Egba, Ekiti, Awori, Hausa, Tapa already living in Lagos.

Oshodi Tapa served Oba Eshinlokun and some of his sons. I am talking of late 1700s to mid 1800s. By the way, Eshinlokun's grandfather was an Ijesha man. Now we are talking of 1600s into 1700s.

Make una no let me pull out my diary of early Lagos o. Abi una don craze ni?

Tell GRV the real commonwealth is the one his great grandfather met on ground in Lagos, a pan-Yoruba community that existed as an elite society, and with representation from Okun, Offa, Iseyin, Oyo, Ijesha, Ife, Ondo, Owo, Ibadan, Ogbomosho, Egba, Ijebu, Awori, Popo. In extension were the Tapas, the Hausas.

God punish GRV and all una biafrans. We will declare war against terrorism and evacuate all ipobs from our land. You better sit straight and face your spare part income, or you return to that hell hole in Onitsha. Freaks!

The First Obi Of Lagos was Ashipa, a title still active in all Yorubaland at home and abroad. Marrying other ethnic or subYoruba does not cede Lagos to them.

Several attempts to usurp EKO-ILE, From the days of Portugal LAGOS to British and now the last comers accommodated and tolerated in Lagos in the 20th Century.

Go and ask about Ojora Family, they would fight for 100 year until they eventually win. Go find out about their court cases.

This obsession with Lagos and Obi Wake Up Call has sent tolerance ofIgbo in Lagos back a hundred years.

In 1921, Amodu Tijani also known as Chief Oluwa of Lagos along with Nigerian nationalist Herbert Macaulay took British colonialists to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council (JCPC) in London over a case of stolen land.

The Yoruba chief charged that the British had no authority to take control over indigenous Nigerian lands. Thus, he requested that the ownership of the land returned to Nigeria and that the rightful owners be thoroughly compensated.

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/this-nigerian-chief-reclaimed-stolen-lagos-lands-from-the-british-in-1921-after-suing-them-in-london


399 Amodu Tijani Appellant; v. The Secretary, Southern Nigeria Respondent. Privy Council
PC
Viscount Haldane, Lord Atkinson, and Lord Phillimore.
1921 July 11.
On Appeal from the Supreme Court of Nigeria (Southern Province).
Nigeria--Lagos--Native Tenure of Land--White Cap Chiefs--Communal Land-- Acquisition of Land by Government--Compensation--Public Lands Ordinance, 1903 (No. 5 of 1903, Lagos).
The radical title to land held by the White Cap Chiefs of Lagos is in the Crown, but a full usufructuary title vests in a chief on behalf of the community of which he is the head. That usufructuary title was not affected by the cession to the British Crown in 1861; the system of Crown grants must be regarded as having been introduced mainly, if not exclusively, for conveyancing purposes.
Upon the land held by a White Cap Chief being acquired for public purposes under the Public Lands Ordinance, 1903, the compensation is payable on the footing that the chief is transferring the land in full ownership (except so far as it is unoccupied); the compensation is to be distributed among the members of the community of which he is Chief according to the procedure provided by the Ordinance.
Observations with regard to the native tenure of land in West Africa, and as to "stool" lands.
Judgment of the Supreme Court reversed.
APPEAL by special leave from a judgment of the Supreme Court of Nigeria, Southern Province (January 4, 1918), affirming the judgment of Speed C.J.
The appellant was one of the Idejo White Cap Chiefs of Lagos. By a notice dated November 12, 1913, certain lands situated at Apapa were acquired by the Government of the colony under the Public Lands Ordinance (No. 5 of 1903) for public purposes. The appellant as head chief of the Oluwa family claimed compensation on the basis of ownership of the lands. On a summons taken out by the appellant under the Ordinance above named Speed C.J. held that the appellant was entitled to compensation on the basis of his having merely a right of control and management, not on the basis of absolute ownership. That decision was affirmed by*400 the full Court (Speed C.J. and Ross, Webber, and Pennington JJ.)
The material facts appear from the judgment of the Judicial Committee.
Special leave to appeal was granted on June 25, 1918, leave being reserved to the respondent to object at the hearing of the appeal that there was no jurisdiction to grant leave to appeal.
1921. June 6, 7, 9, 21. Hon. Sir William Finlay K.C. and J. A. Johnston for the appellant. Upjohn K.C. and Vernon for the respondent.
In the course of the argument reference was made to Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria v. Holt , both in the Supreme Court [FN1] and on appeal to the Board [FN2]; Oduntan Onisiwo v. Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria [FN3]; to the following unreported decisions in the colony, Callamand v. Vaughan (1878), Ajon v. Efunde(1892), Ohuntan's Case (1908), Taiwo v. Odunsi Sarumi (1913); and to Secretary of State v. Kamachee Boye Sahaba [FN4] and Durga Prashad Singh v. Tribeni Sinyh. [FN5]Also to the Public Lands Ordinance (No. 5 of 1903) and to earlier Ordinances - namely, No. 9 of 1863, No. 10 of 1864, No. 9 of 1865, and No. 9 of 1869 - and to Historical Notices of Lagos by Rev. J. B. Woods (1880), Report of Land Tenure in West Africa by Rayner C.J. (1898), Notes of Evidence taken by the West African Lands Committee (1912-1914), and
Irving's Titles to Lands in Nigeria (1916). FN1 (1910) 2 Nig. L. R. 1.
FN2 [1915] A. C. 599.
FN3 (1912) 2 Nig. L. R. 77.
FN4 (1859) 7 Moo. I. A. 476.
FN5 (1918) L. R. 45 I. A. 275.
July 11. The judgment of their Lordships was delivered by: VISCOUNT HALDANE.

https://www.jurisafrica.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Amodu-Tijani-Case.pdf

Whoever the Speech Writer of Jakande was, she or he was just quoting several attempts to usurp EKO-ILE, From the day of Portugal LAGOS to British and now the last comers accommodated and tolerated in Lagos in the 20th Century.

Go and ask about Ojora Family, they would fight for 100 year until they eventually win. Go find out about their court cases.

This obsession with Lagos and Obi Wake Up Call has sent tolerance ofIgbo in Lagos back a hundred years.

In 1921, Amodu Tijani also known as Chief Oluwa of Lagos along with Nigerian nationalist Herbert Macaulay took British colonialists to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council (JCPC) in London over a case of stolen land.

The Yoruba chief charged that the British had no authority to take control over indigenous Nigerian lands. Thus, he requested that the ownership of the land returned to Nigeria and that the rightful owners be thoroughly compensated.

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/this-nigerian-chief-reclaimed-stolen-lagos-lands-from-the-british-in-1921-after-suing-them-in-london


399 Amodu Tijani Appellant; v. The Secretary, Southern Nigeria Respondent. Privy Council
PC
Viscount Haldane, Lord Atkinson, and Lord Phillimore.
1921 July 11.
On Appeal from the Supreme Court of Nigeria (Southern Province).
Nigeria--Lagos--Native Tenure of Land--White Cap Chiefs--Communal Land-- Acquisition of Land by Government--Compensation--Public Lands Ordinance, 1903 (No. 5 of 1903, Lagos).
The radical title to land held by the White Cap Chiefs of Lagos is in the Crown, but a full usufructuary title vests in a chief on behalf of the community of which he is the head. That usufructuary title was not affected by the cession to the British Crown in 1861; the system of Crown grants must be regarded as having been introduced mainly, if not exclusively, for conveyancing purposes.
Upon the land held by a White Cap Chief being acquired for public purposes under the Public Lands Ordinance, 1903, the compensation is payable on the footing that the chief is transferring the land in full ownership (except so far as it is unoccupied); the compensation is to be distributed among the members of the community of which he is Chief according to the procedure provided by the Ordinance.
Observations with regard to the native tenure of land in West Africa, and as to "stool" lands.
Judgment of the Supreme Court reversed.
APPEAL by special leave from a judgment of the Supreme Court of Nigeria, Southern Province (January 4, 1918), affirming the judgment of Speed C.J.
The appellant was one of the Idejo White Cap Chiefs of Lagos. By a notice dated November 12, 1913, certain lands situated at Apapa were acquired by the Government of the colony under the Public Lands Ordinance (No. 5 of 1903) for public purposes. The appellant as head chief of the Oluwa family claimed compensation on the basis of ownership of the lands. On a summons taken out by the appellant under the Ordinance above named Speed C.J. held that the appellant was entitled to compensation on the basis of his having merely a right of control and management, not on the basis of absolute ownership. That decision was affirmed by*400 the full Court (Speed C.J. and Ross, Webber, and Pennington JJ.)
The material facts appear from the judgment of the Judicial Committee.
Special leave to appeal was granted on June 25, 1918, leave being reserved to the respondent to object at the hearing of the appeal that there was no jurisdiction to grant leave to appeal.
1921. June 6, 7, 9, 21. Hon. Sir William Finlay K.C. and J. A. Johnston for the appellant. Upjohn K.C. and Vernon for the respondent.
In the course of the argument reference was made to Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria v. Holt , both in the Supreme Court [FN1] and on appeal to the Board [FN2]; Oduntan Onisiwo v. Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria [FN3]; to the following unreported decisions in the colony, Callamand v. Vaughan (1878), Ajon v. Efunde(1892), Ohuntan's Case (1908), Taiwo v. Odunsi Sarumi (1913); and to Secretary of State v. Kamachee Boye Sahaba [FN4] and Durga Prashad Singh v. Tribeni Sinyh. [FN5]Also to the Public Lands Ordinance (No. 5 of 1903) and to earlier Ordinances - namely, No. 9 of 1863, No. 10 of 1864, No. 9 of 1865, and No. 9 of 1869 - and to Historical Notices of Lagos by Rev. J. B. Woods (1880), Report of Land Tenure in West Africa by Rayner C.J. (1898), Notes of Evidence taken by the West African Lands Committee (1912-1914), and
Irving's Titles to Lands in Nigeria (1916). FN1 (1910) 2 Nig. L. R. 1.
FN2 [1915] A. C. 599.
FN3 (1912) 2 Nig. L. R. 77.
FN4 (1859) 7 Moo. I. A. 476.
FN5 (1918) L. R. 45 I. A. 275.
July 11. The judgment of their Lordships was delivered by: VISCOUNT HALDANE.

https://www.jurisafrica.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Amodu-Tijani-Case.pdf

While all the attacks between SanwoOku and Vivour dominate online, it is a mystery that

Funso Doherty

has not gained ground.

It looks like APC, PDP and Labor Party obscure Funso Doherty.

What about Funso Doherty folks?

Credit Vivour for putting issues on the table, though some of them are outright outlandish. His opponents must come out and debate the feasibility and counter his proposals.

We must shift the focus from ethnic bashing which is in reaction to Igbo greed that Lagos is within reach.

Lagos is no longer for SALE.

Focus must shift to Doherty and Adediran "Jandor" and compare their own proposals.

But Alpha Beta Must Go!

He had Yoruba name. Google it.

His Christian name is Crowther

a4cube:
If this true why is Crowther his surname?

Most of them were not and have never been slaves. Ajayi Crowther ship was captured on the sea and returned before reaching slave plantation.

English or Portuguese names were not different from Muslim names given after they have been converted to Christianity or Islam.

It was a pride to have Christian or Muslim names throughout Africa. Christians and Muslims, foolishly, still take pride in it today as first or last names.

Most Yoruba know their Yoruba family name and more important, their ORIKI. Any Lagosian without ORIKI or Yoruba names is not from Lagos.

God I do not like Tinubu because of his flawed, soiled and sour character. So unbecoming of a Yoruba leader.

But he won this election! Unfortunately, the same people he made will force him into a run off and he would lose.

Why? Igbo would vote against him massively.

When you eat with a devil or ride the back of a lion to victory ........

Buhari got you again!

Nothing has changed since Fulani continue to Fool Hausa and others that the North is One.

They have decided that power must remain in the North.

Pity those thinking they are voting for Obi or Tinubu, wasting their votes.

Obi is a conduit for Atiku just to get settled positions for himself and his followers like Zik did with Tafawa Balewa.

Tinubu knows Buhari and the North are fooling him.

Nigerians must face Atiku and break the Amalgamation into convenient Regions.

So every move by Tinubu is news

Some of you guys are just sickening

What good is the money to Alamsco now.

Yet, most of us are still ready to do anything for money including risking our lives.

Vanity first by any means and die later!

Finally found this article!

But this author wrote another one about Yoruba ladies. Each culture has their desirable ladies.

However, the money culture has destroyed our morality today.

i dated some igbo chicks, served in Igbo land, married one years later. don't be decieved about niceness, its relative! I can't even recommend one for my brother, if u know the sh!t my nysc roomatr did with engaged and married Igbo women you go hail. so luck up brother, there are good n bad chicks everywhere, no tribe beta pass.

Clap for yourself. If Israel can so it, so can Nigeria. What an achievement eh?

A country that cannot securely print its own money is a satellite nor a country

Since many Nigerians are making money out of the misery of the poor on new naira, which is usual for the big boys, I have been wondering when the Foreign exploiters and their accomplices are going to make foreign cash out of this.

They just gave us an answer!

einsteine:
Israel prints its currency abroad. There is nothing wrong in printing currency abroad.

When I saw - I am getting tired, I know where you are heading.

Peter Obi is part and parcel of the destroyers of this country just as you are. Nigerians are suspects in every country in the world and continues to be. At the risk of death penalty, they have not stop invading other countries.

Where is your welcome mat as you like to fool yourselves?

Until you revolt against your oppressors as others in those countries you love did and build your own country. No Black man will be respected or even welcomed anywhere in the world.

If you like, loot your father, mother and country you will remain at the bottom of the caste system forever.

Sorry, that was s computer auto correct.

Tell us where you are from.

Certainly not from any Royal House IN Edo

gregyboy:
You're edo and so what...