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KingGBsky:
Believe it or not, Ibos largely developed Lagos

You people have started with your propaganda again. Do you chaps get a kick out of spewing lies? Or are you wired to thrive on deceit?

potent5:
Are you leaving? You don't want a reenactment of the facts and issues in the Cameroun case anymore?

Ojele.

Anuofia! The reenactment you could NOT provide several pages back, when you were asked to do so? The reenactment of the ICJ ruling, that you dodged before deciding to take refuge in banalities, when you were asked to substantiate your views? See this efulefu!

wanimo:
The truth is very bitter. Igbos even after they were left with only £20 after the civil war have become very rich through hard work and enterprise. The own 70% of Nigeria. From the South to the north to the west. No wonder Arewa Youths out of hatred and envy are eagerly waiting for abandoned property.

However, this is not 1967....this is 2017. We shall achieve Biafra through a referendum, come back to Nigeria as foreign investors and continue to dominate. Person wey pass person pass am

Stop dreaming. It is time for you to wake up. Nigeria does not need your kind of investment, when there are other ethnic groups and nationalities that can offer far superior types of investments, than you can ever hope to provide, waiting in the wings. The minute you leave, other nationalities or ethnic groups will come in to fill the gap, while you are still looking for ways to apply for entry visas into Nigeria...

raker300:
Well, the middle belt officially apologized to the igbos over the biafran war..something no other Nigerian could do.

I say we should invest there but do so with extreme cautions..once your investments is returned, get set to leave.

Ehn? Which part of the middle belt offered this so-called apology? On what day? Have the Igbo or the Biafran soldiers apologised to the Middle-belt for the needless killing of their people during the civil war?

KINGwax007:
this chest beating won't take u nowhere.

If u think people are envying u then pull out and relocate to your place na...

Hehehe.... another Kaduna declaration is loading!

Dedetwo:
The stream of thought of certain numbskulls in Nigeria should be made a case study. Even in colonial era, the attainment of independence does not signify that citizens of the new countries should forfeit accrued properties in their nation of resident. Anyway, we are talking about Nigeria where a so-called professor in international law insinuates that agitation for self-determination is act of war.

And we would all be waiting to see those numbskulls who think they can eat their cake and have it, when it comes to land matters in Nigeria, after their so-called Biafra is declared. Wasn't that how some people lost their properties in Port-harcourt during the civil war?

kelly72:
One question for you though
Are you so poverty stricken that Igbos get to own 70% of your land??
Where is your shame?
Soon Igbos will take away all your daughters and you will sit in your poverty forming revocation.

Point of correction. Igbos do not own 70% of anybody's land outside Ala Igbo. Mba nu! The governor was referring to 70% of the CofO papers that he signed. Those CofO documents he signed, may probably just cover less than 10% of the entire land holdings in the whole state. Can you spot the difference? Or are you so shameful that you are ready to twist the governor's words into another piece of propaganda, for your gullible people to swallow?

Finally, please do you even know what is 'poverty forming' about revocation of a CofO? Are you aware of what you are saying? It is the person whose CofO papers are revoked, that may end up as a pauper, after losing all the money spent to procure the document. Be guided.

jpphilips:
IPOB is a disgrace to igbo people.

True!!

baddooboys:
I have done mine and came out with the conclusion that Igbo's own most properties in Lagos

Then your research is grounded in fallacy, as your hypothesis does not correlate with any known parameters in the Land Registry. So discard it.

potent5:
What qualification do you have? If at all you have any such qualification in international law, I bet you must have been taught by a misguided prof like Oyebode in one of those private schools dotting all over the Nigerian landscape. Little wonder you reason like a historian journalist only interested in interviewing for answers rather than reading for them, especially when you have been referred to a source. Your problem is self-inflicted. Should you want to do another academic program, please choose a school properly so called.

Oh dear, you are still here ranting and showing us how shallow your mind is. Please continue... keep providing us with good entertainment! Daalu zi!

madjam:
The Leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, Nnamdi Kanu, has vowed never to associate with “yoruba people”, or any the corrupt leadership of Ohanaeze Ndigbo.

He also vowed never to associate with past or present Governors of Nigeria, urging his followers to kill him, if he breaks this oath.

In his words, he said:


More @>>> http://trendzbase..com/2017/07/i-would-rather-hang-myself-to-deaththan.html

Lalasticlala, Mynd44

Fayose!! Fayose!!! FFK! FFK!! Are you hearing? How many times did I call you both? Nnamdi Kanu has used both of you for his cheap publicity, and is now on the verge of dumping you. A word is enough, for the wise. Make una siddon jejely for una corner, una no go hear word! Chai!

baddooboys:
Y not make it public??

Why not do your own research?

Dumaknesset:
Good point, a governor sign less than 50 cofos on the average per year, now what does 70 percent of 50 translate to, besides the governor noted it, cos it is an aberration and he gave reason for it, he ascribed it to indigenes fleeing cos of the never ending crisis there. I go to court most of the times and in most courts on matters dealing with recovery of possession, igbos are always the defendants, that does not give me the right to say that igbos don't own properties in Lagos or else where. it is just plain stupid to Arbitrary carve out crazy unsubstantiated stats.

Wait, o! For Igbos to be mostly the defendants in lawsuits relating to recovery of properties, it means they are mostly the defaulting tenants who are owing their landlords huge arrears of rents, not so?

cmon:
For a 2010 Vehicle, you should be running on Comprehensive Insurance. If you are a lekki residence, then you should also include a flood option in your insurance cover. If you did all that, simply call your insurance company and they will take care of this.

If you are driving a 2010 Crosstour and don't know you ought to have comprehensive insurance, oga, OYO is your case!

Comprehensive insurance does NOT cover flood. Please do not mislead people. Flood is regarded as an 'act of God.'

baddooboys:
So we should believe you

You should believe the data on owners of CofOs issued in Lagos, that have been captured at the Lands Registry and Ministry of Housing in Alausa. Do your research and compare it with Fashola's stories....

potent5:
You are an archetype of Nigeria and a true example of the problem with Nigeria, always waiting to be spoon fed with everything, always seeking the next shortcut to solution.

I won't indulge you pathological shortcut mentality here; it's not my making that you are not grounded in the subject under discussion. Take the advice I proffered and get schooled in a proper academic environment.

All your driveling and antics for me to chronicle ALL issues in the Cameroun case are just consistent with your nature but I won't be moved by it. I referred you to the case ab initio and if it's in your nature to refer people to a subject you know nothing about, well I am different.

Go and read the case as advised or, better still, go and study international law. By so doing you would have solved one of Nigeria's problems of shortcut and hard work in your own life.

You do not even know the kind of qualifications I hold in international law, yet you are here making unfounded noise. I told you before : "The more you talk, the more you expose your unmitigated ignorance and delusion. You have NOT been able to answer any of the questions posed to you so far, instead you take refuge in sly derision, contemptuous comments and insulting innuendoes." And you just proved it again with your lengthy needless epistle, full of sound and fury signifying nothing! Now, have the floor and continue to spew more garbage, so that everyone can actually see that you have nothing upstairs.

bigtt76:
When countries are investing in underground acquaducts to solve flooding issues whilst utilizing the space over them for building structures, some people are her canvassing the demolition of entire estates.

I wonder where this sudden hatred came from. Given the opportunity, I'm sure some people wouldn't mind killing every land owner in Lekki or VGC. A beginner nor be den fault say they could afford it. They chose to stay there for some reason. Besides none have come out to beg for assistance or complain... Let's leave them in peace.

On Ambode's yarns .... Let him and his team clear the drains/canals first and see if flooding would occur before re-engineering sh1t else he would embark on a project that would worsen everything like the on-going road modifications on the Lekki axis

Beautiful! Well said!! May God increase the wisdom He has deposited in your life....

Duru009:
"85% of the property in Lagos are owned by hardworking and diligent igbo people. I love the Igbo people that is while i made them part of my government. No state in Nigeria can develop adequately without the input of an igbo man"

(Babatunde Fashola, The Nation 6th April 2013)

Haba! Have you forgotten that Fashola is a politician? A politician will tell you anything you want to hear. Believe him at your own peril! He may have said that to canvass for votes prior to the election period. Please don't tell me that you believe him. Or are you that gullible?

Ikology:
I thought you will accept it whole-heartedly. People struggle to buy properties with hard-earned money, all you could talk about is revocation of COA. Whatever you wish others will befall you.

Do you know what a CofO is meant to be? It only grants a leasehold, over the land to the person who applies for it. Those who struggle to buy land with their hard earned money in places owned by other ethnic groups, should learn to respect their hosts, instead of insulting them and visiting them with bile. Or they may end up discovering that their CofO will be revoked, starting with your own.

fatiaforreal:
When it becomes important, you will know the true meaning of C of O!
It doesn't represent Certificate of 'Ownership', it simply represents Certificate of 'Occupancy'. It is a function of the political situation, it can be forfeited at any moment.

No mind dem. They have forgotten that every state governor has the right to revoke a CofO, if he so desires. It is totally within his powers. Let them keep dishing out their ethnic slurs, and mantras of hate, in their bid to actualise Biafra. If they do not learn the language of diplomacy, they may end up using their landed properties, to pay for their hate-filled utterance.

Sagay212:
Igbos own 100% of the properties in Lagos. They even own the state house. Are you happy now?

Una no go take laugh kill person for here, I swear!!

potent5:
My friend, I am not a historian like you. And if you expect me to embark on a narrative of the issues addressed by the court in Cameroun case when I don't need to for obvious reasons (which cannot be obvious to a historian like you), you are wasting your time. I have already drawn your attention to the issue relevant to the matter in hand but you keep on carrying on like the historian you are. It's not my fault that you don't know case analysis which belongs in the realm of advocacy; I won't turn a lecturer here on case analysis just to pull you out of legal oblivion.

This your enumerate this and that can't portray you as knowing what you are saying, when you can't even make a head or tail of what I am talking about.

If someone is ignorant of a rocket science it is a waste of time trying to remedy his plight on Nairaland forum, especially where the ignoramus has no potential whatsoever for a good student on the subject.

International law was one my favorite areas as a student and I have some of the best authoritative texts in it my library. Just so you know. If you want to know case analysis, go and study law and stop exposing your ignorance here.

You know what? The more you talk, the more you expose your unmitigated ignorance and delusion. You have NOT been able to answer any of the questions posed to you so far, instead you take refuge in sly derision, contemptuous comments and insulting innuendoes. Your plight is really beyond redemption. I cannot help you if you refuse to learn, or to free your mind. The day you decide to list all the substantive issues addressed by the ICJ in the Nigeria vs. Cameroun case concerning Bakassi peninsula, in accordance with international law principles, then you would be taken seriously. Now, please kindly get off my mentions.

fulanmafia:
The manner of the struggle itself is extremely foolish, which makes your goals unattainable regardless of their perceived merits.

What are your options?

Civil disobedience? You will be continually ignored until it turns violent, which is not in your interest.

Referendum/Restructuring? You need serious diplomacy to make the required constitutional amendment possible. Diplomacy that you and your kin have defined as "ass-licking the Abokees and Afonjas" and is thus forbidden (highlighting the legendary foolishness of the IPOB approach)

The UN? This is a dead end because the same charter expressly recognizes the sovereignty of Nigeria. Read the clause on self-determination exhaustively to understand this reality. Laudate can help break it down to IPOB sized chunks for easier understanding if you are serious.

War? This is your only realistic option in light of the ideology of your agitation. This is exactly what the erudite Prof. Oyebode was emphasizing. I'm sure you're not inclined towards this option judging from the tone of your original post.

Your only real two options are diplomacy or war. Therefore to tread the path of diplomacy is in alignment with the concept of IPOB becoming a political party through which it can lobby to promote its interests, despite the rib-cracking hilarity of the idea of IPOB's ability to play Nigerian politics.

You dey mind dem? A large number of the IPOB crew are so clueless, that if wisdom or knowledge came and tapped them on the head, they would just brush it aside, instead of grabbing it with both hands. A lot of the pros and cons of their actions, have been broken down into small bits not just on this thread, but on many other threads, but they have refused to look, listen and learn. They believe in rushing headlong into an uncertain event, only to come out on the worst side of it. Then they turn round looking for whom to blame for their misfortunes, as they play the victim card. They are allergic to diplomacy. And they have not learnt from the lessons of their forbears, and the events of the late 60s. Leave them. E go soon do dem like film!

Ikology:
May you suffer same fate which you which land owners. May your words hunt you

Right after that same fate befalls you first, and haunts your own people. My own minority ethnic group does not insult others, and neither does it wish others evil, because they want a new republic. So don't worry, no bad fate can come my way....

MultiCEO1:
Dumb. Who will be the worst for it? The state IGR of course. Even after Biafra is granted, you and your likes will be granting us lands for free just to make us invest in your states and boost you IGR. You see how the various state governments worship the Chinese investors? We will become the new China to you all, the darling investors being wooed with tax cuts and free lands with guarranteed protection of lives and investment. You have very little regards and appreciation for us because we are still here with you. Wait until we are gone.

Nah! The dumbness is actually oozing from your words. How can Nigeria grant you land for free, after you eventually get your Biafra? When the Nigerian authorities are not daft? Or is that another chapter of the book on delusion that Kanu has sold to you gullible lot? You are obviously dreaming. Please wake up. Right now, your state governors have been unable to turn your South-Eastern states into an El Dorado, so what makes you think that they will turn Biafra into paradise overnight? You want to become the new China? Go right ahead. Who is stopping you? Don't worry about our IGR. Other ethnic groups or nationalities will move in and take over once you leave. All the commercial transactions you have been engaged in, within our country are not rocket science. Others can easily do it.

You claim we have little regard and no appreciation for you. Do you and your crew have any regard and appreciation for other ethnic groups? You and your folks are masters at sowing conflict, ethnic slurs, bile and hate.... yet, you want others to appreciate and regard you. Haba! You cannot plant yams and harvest potatoes. It doesn't work that way. You sef, check am nah!

cumbak60:
See the trash that is coming from a supposed educated fellow. Tribal bigots everywhere.

Thanks for telling us that 'trash is the name you were baptised with, at birth. And you are actually the Commander-in-Chief of Tribal bigots, have you forgotten? Why are you calling others the names, which are rightfully your own?

RonJeremy:
you've clearly exposed how lazy your people are and can't wait to feed on the sweat of the Igbos. Maybe if you concentrate on learning the work ethics of the Igbos then you and your likes may have a brighter future than your current miserable self.....

See this one! Are you not the miserable pathetic clod, who ran away from your land in Ala Igbo, to other people's lands, and then turned round to claim you developed their place? Nothing stops you from buying land in your village and developing it, so why are you crying about the fear of losing lands in areas that are not your own? Your future will soon be much darker than it is now, if you do not advise your brother Kanu to stop beating the cymbals of hate against other ethnic groups. You chaps are the ones that will bear the brunt of his actions, if care is not taken.

sexy74:
If you are exposed and can write this rubbish i feel sorry for you. What did they do wrong?
The C of O was not gotten illegally so you doont have to cheat them out of it later based on your premise.
This your actions encourages laziness.

You are the one writing rubbish. All lands are vested in the state govt. The CofO merely gives a leasehold of a certain number of years (e.g. 99 years or less), to anyone who applies for the land. Nothing stops the state govt from taking it back, and in some cases paying compensation of some sort, if need be. Educate yourself. Nobody is cheating anybody.

Oloriode:
Wetin I wan talk

It looks like a barracks. Very few parking spaces. If residents of each flat decide to park their cars within the compound, it would be congested. I hope they also have adequate lifts or elevators in each building? Another thing - Inadequate recreation area. Why is the space within the premises, so small?

ChangetheChange:
Re-Engineeer canals?
Instead of demolishing the entire Lekki and VGC like they did to Maroko

Ambode u are wasting ur time and Lagos state money, if u like restructure the canals, flooding on the island will remain inevitable, as long as Lekki phase 1 and VGC still exists, the flooding will never stop, those estates are meant to be canals/ drainage ways in the first place and not housing estates.

The greatest fear of Lagosians is now The Eko Atlantic Project, the inevitable DOOMSDAY mother of all flood due to the Eko Atlantic is less than ten years from now--Quote me anywhere

The only lasting solution is to Demolish all the houses in Lekki and VgC and convert the whole land to CANAL in order to allow for proper flow of water and prevent flood.

There should be nothing like Lekki phase 1, VGC and other estates on lekki /Ajah axis, those places should be entirely a canal and not housing estates---Quote me anywhere

Oga, there is no need to demolish houses. All they need to do is to construct proper storm water drainage channels that are several feet wide and many metres deep, to channel the floodwater away from different areas of Lekki, Victoria Island and VGC, straight into the lagoon. The lagoon front in all these estates, should be left open and kept free from any structures, so that floods can drain away naturally through those foreshore areas and riverbanks.

Dolphin Estate Ikoyi is another water-logged area that deserves attention. When they allowed the mosque and church there to exceed their boundaries, as they sand filled the natural drainage channel through which water runs off into the canal, the whole estate started having massive floods from 2001. Across the bridge on the other side, there was a time the canal close to Osborne Foreshore was unblocked and de-silted, so that storm water could flow through unhindered. This was done under Fashola. Ever since Ambode came in, that drainage canal has been blocked, and the floods have decided to make Dolphin Estate-Ijeh road, their permanent abode.

afroniger:
That's what a good leader does, he responds.

Ambode is not serious. Under Fashola, they had an Office of Drainage Services, whose job was to clear canals, drainage channels, culverts, storm drains etc. They even had a Permanent Secretary who was an Engineer, heading that office. They worked tirelessly under Fashola, to ensure the canals and storm drains were weeded and kept clear of blockage, before the rainy season started. What happened to that office, after Ambode took over? They all went to sleep. _mtcheew...

Another thing is that a lot of dredging and reclamation of land from the lagoon, has been going on unabated in Lekki, Banana Island and its environs, without adequate attention being paid to the surrounding environment, or infrastructure. The new 150 hectares estate called Orange Island coming up at the end of Freedom Way, past the 3rd gate of Lekki Phase 1, is a classic case. Land is daily being reclaimed from the lagoon and the sea, so that more plots can be sold to the nouveau riche, at exorbitant prices. Ok, they keep forgetting that water will always find its level. And one day 'agaracha go enter market, e no go return...'

potent5:
My friend, that you quoted some report of what the ICJ said to the two parties in paraphrase has actually lent credence to what I've been saying. The judgement of the court in that case has several issues which came up and it's one of those that I've been drawing your attention to but your parochial stubbornness won't allow you to understand basic principles of advocacy. I am beginning to think that I have been wasting my time and I doubt if you are even a lawyer. Otherwise, how on earth can you not understand rudimentary aspects of analysis of judgment.

Well, you ask: "So why are you still making noise about it?" It's simply because your so called Russia trained prof is putting up similar feeble arguments in his interview as was done by Bola Ajibola (and Co) who was a judge advocate in the case.

All your submissions are are akin to what a historian will do: just give us a narrative of what took place without more. This is not an issue for historians, okay? Thank you.

I have come to realize that the point I am making is beyond your understanding and apparently there is nothing I can do to change you except you take your time to undergo proper training in international law, case analysis and advocacy in a proper university, not all these Nigerian private universities you people run to for quick action

You see, until you can free your mind to think logically, I can't help you. You keep running from pillar to post clutching at straws, in a bid to sound important. Unfortunately, your ignorance becomes more apparent with every effort you make.

You started by trying to use the matrimonial causes act, to draw parallels with principles of international law. Next, you laid emphasis on Nigeria's argument at the Nigeria vs Cameroun case at the ICJ, where you stated that 'Nigerian domestic arrangement was used as a basis to escape its international obligations,' as if that argument was a superior one. Now, you have started rambling about how 'the judgement of the court in that case has several issues which came up.' Your statements are full of form without substance. Can you see all the empty shadows you have been chasing?

Ok, outline those several issues contained in the judgement of the court, so that everyone can see what you are trying to say. List them out one by one. Just ensure you do not end up confusing yourself as usual, in your parochial stubbornness.