Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 7:52pm On May 31, 2017 |
Billyonaire: No sir, I use facts, not assumptions:
Akwa Ibom is the highest Oil Producing State and Phillip Effiong, the Deputy of Ojukwu is from Akwa Ibom State ( May His Soul RIP, a great man) Rivers State is the highest producer of LNG, and Rivers State is a pivotal state in Biafra, read about Iqweocha. I am sure you know the meaning of Igwe then add Ocha...(Lol). Komoko, Chokocho, Opiro etc and the Etche environs speak Igbo and these are the territories oil oil oil even untapped.
Yes, if Biafra is declared today, we will have 24hrs electricity. The reason is factual and simple. Rivers State and Akwa Ibom have Independent Power plants that are currently transmitting power to the national grid. I do not want to mention other locations since our arguments are based on these two states. Enugu is called Coal City, I am sure you know what that means. We can power Biafra 24hrs, Yes. I can assure you of this.
If you want us to discuss about the Economic Module that I am presently designing for African Countries. Although I am personally pushing for Regionalism and have already convinced a few Biafrans, for the love of our smart SW brothers, I will not hesitate to change my mind and go all out for Biafra if the SW brothers are not ready to move away from the barbaric Islamists that domesticate women and enslave children.
We all have to wake up and stop hating those who want a better life than the status quo. I am a very comfortable Nigerian, but I am not selfish, I want all others to live in a country that government provides social safety net, medicare, pension system that works etc. And since Nigeria has failed to do this, I consider those who support the status as being MAD. And I know you are not one of them. Sorry bro', you are still basing your assumptions on a lot of delusions.  In Rivers State, the Kalabari, Ijaw, Ogoni etc., are still unsure about becoming members of Biafra. And you have already roped the entire Rivers state into your proposed republic?  Even the Efiks, Ibibio and Annangs are still divided about joining your movement, especially when they recall the treatment meted out to the minorities in the old Biafra enclave. And you are already presuming they would become members of your proposed republic? Haba!! You have even co-opted their lands and electricity generating assets into your proposed country. Chai!!  As for electricity, generation of power is only one-half of the equation. What about the transmission and distribution?  What is the power transmission grid like, in the South-East? All over the country, the transmission grid is inadequate and overstretched which leads to huge electricity loss. And it is this same grid, that you think would give you 24 hours electricity?  Oga, are you allergic to reality? |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 7:15pm On May 31, 2017 |
Qelvin: Passport wey I no fit find again, I use my American passport to travel wherever I want...except Nigeria which I don't plan on visiting any time soon, currently filing for my brother to join me here and I'm good to go...if I die at a ripe old age, only then will my body touch base in the land of my father in Imo state(which hopefully will be Biafra by then) Haba, go easy on the lies, nah! No be you just talk say you still dey use Nigerian passport?  Qelvin: I'm only using a Nigerian passport by virtue of circumstance that alone, it irks me to have to present that rubbish to immigration authorities, and that is why I pray each day I wake up for the quick dissolution of that toxic remindal, a step closer to that bigger reality can't get any more real than this post which makes me even more happy that you Nigerians want the same thing I badly want- a post Nigeria scenario where political alliances are broken between us, that's what I seriously pray for!! |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 7:12pm On May 31, 2017 |
Billyonaire: You will not spill the beans because there is no beans to spill. ECOWAS Treaty guarantees freedom of movement for the citizens of the 16-member states (soon 17). Biafrans will move enmasse out of Nigeria and build a 21-century digitalized country. The Human Resources available in the South South/South East Region will eclipse Nigeria within 2 years. All the Oil companies will be forced to shutdown offices in Nigeria and relocate to Biafra and our airports will be busy receiving FDIs than never before seen in the history of a new country.
We will have Christianity and Judaism as Religions. Which means, TErrorism will be alien to us. Financial watchdogs will not blacklist Biafra so that means, free flow of FDIs. Una go pay una World Bank and IMF loans tire without Oil.
Why would anyone choose to stay behind in a country that can not even generate more than 400 MW of electricity needless to keep the electricity running for 24hrs. Come on, men. Nigerians will BEG to visit Biafra. That is the truth. Guy, your comments are still fueled by assumptions. Every single one of them. You actually think oil companies will relocate their offices to Biafra? What is the proportion of oil fields within your proposed Biafra republic, which are operated by these oil companies? Are they greater than those ones which exist in non-Igbo areas, within the Niger-Delta? Please wake up and smell the coffee.  You think if Biafra is declared today, they would automatically start generating 24-hour electricity? I laugh in French! "Financial watchdogs will not blacklist Biafra......" because of what? What level of gold would be used to back up your currency? Don't you realise that there are many indices that financial watchdogs look out for, before a country is given a clean bill of health? On what premise are you basing these your far-fetched assumptions, biko?  You know what?  Let me leave you to your delusions..... |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 7:06pm On May 31, 2017 |
Billyonaire: OP, Let me correct one impression. Biafra is not an Igbo thing, Biafra is beyond the Igbo construct which has been polluting the cyber-space. I am not Igbo, yet my father lost everything to that war. To me, Biafra is cry against marginalization, a cry against the inhumanity of man against fellow humans. Biafran represents something more than a country. It is a courage to say, 'No' to slavery.
The Answer to your question is NO. Nigeria can not deport Biafrans after secession, this is not 1970s. Biafrans resident in Nigeria and Nigerians residents in Biafra will be offered provisional citizenships with first right of refusal. Sane countries know the value of human resources. If Biafrans are to withdraw 100% from Nigeria. There will be chaos.
* Based on International Law on Migration of the ECOWAS 16-member countries, they will be required to get a Biafran Passport and Resident Permit in Nigeria. And the Nigerians living in Biafra will be required to do the same. Both Nigerians and Biafrans will be given at least 5 years to work out the terms of migration. Travels within the ECOWAS 16-member countries has been VISA-free and will remain so. What is required is resident permit.
* Based on International Migration laws, which I believe same will apply to Nigeria-Biafra relationship, if you own a Landed Property within the country, you are automatically qualified and have fight right of refusal on Nigerian Citizenship. I know many Biafrans will like to move away from Nigeria, and I am one of them, but will lease/rent out my houses in Nigeria and be paying tax to the Nigeria government while I go back to build Biafra. I will not hesitate to go back and help build Biafra to one of the best countries in the world.
* I will keep the last point to myself. Guy, your entire post is based on assumptions and illusions.  And assumptions are the mother of all fvckups. You said: "Biafrans resident in Nigeria and Nigerians residents in Biafra will be offered provisional citizenships with first right of refusal." By who? Who would offer them such an option? Did Nigeria promise this option categorically to your people, or is this just a flight of fancy or a figment of your imagination?  Then you said: "Sane countries know the value of human resources. If Biafrans are to withdraw 100% from Nigeria. There will be chaos." What makes you think that the Biafrans are the only ones competent enough to hold down the jobs, they are currently doing within Nigeria?  There are smart, well qualified Nigerians in many parts of the country. Yes, there might be some issues initially, but for every vacancy on ground today, there are usually more than 5 applicants. So this aspect would be straightened out. As for ECOWAS, no member state of the association can force Nigeria to dance to its' tune. Nigeria still pays the piper in that regional body, so it will continue dictating the tune.  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:51pm On May 31, 2017*. Modified: 7:31pm On May 31, 2017 |
freshest4live: Lol what if Nigeria due to this same bad blood pull out of ECOWAS? You forget that Nigeria pays the highest contributions for the smooth running of ECOWAS? What baffles me, is that some are not even content with the five states alone, you also want the likes of Portharcourt and Warri, and yet you expect to maintain friendly relations with the zoo, well l wish you the best of luck. Thank you, o!  When Nigeria closed its' border with Benin Republic for just two weeks under OBJ, their president ran down here to beg OBJ to relax the restriction. What would have happened to Benin Republic if that closure had gone on for like 6 months? None of the individual ECOWAS member states on its' own can call Nigeria to order, or look at its leaders, eyeball to eyeball. Persuasion, respect and courtesy are key words in diplomatic circles, and these chaps who are beating the drums for Biafra, need to learn it.  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:43pm On May 31, 2017 |
Qelvin: I'm only using a Nigerian passport by virtue of circumstance that alone, it irks me to have to present that rubbish to immigration authorities, and that is why I pray each day I wake up for the quick dissolution of that toxic remindal, a step closer to that bigger reality can't get any more real than this post which makes me even more happy that you Nigerians want the same thing I badly want- a post Nigeria scenario where political alliances are broken between us, that's what I seriously pray for!! Guy, then put your money where your mouth is. Burn that Nigerian passport. You cannot be hating Nigeria and pouring invectives on my country, meanwhile you are using her passport to jet around the world. It is called eating your cake and having it. Oya, burn that passport right now, and renounce your Nigerian citizenship so that we can take you seriously. Go on...I dare you!  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:38pm On May 31, 2017 |
ISpiksDaTroof: And there goes the Biafran showing the world the only way he knows how to communicate....
You can take a hike now. Hehehe.... una no go take laugh kill person for dis place!  We were all having a decent conversation, before their IPOBian internet keyboard warriors decided to inject insults into the discussion. Can you imagine??! Anyway, God dey....  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:34pm On May 31, 2017 |
PFRB: Ok let us get some education. When Biafra becomes a country, it will be part of ECOWAS and Nigeria will also be part of ECOWAS. So both countries will be governed by ECOWAS rules and statutes as fas as movement of people and immigration is all about. Those in the Fed civil service will convert to Biafran fed civil service. Those Nigerians in the Fed civil service in Biafra will relocate to Nigerian fed civil service You have still not thought it through carefully. Which country is the largest contributor of resources to ECOWAS in both human and financial terms? Nigeria. And when this country sneezes, every other member state catches cold. ECOWAS membership does not take away your right as a country to enforce immigration laws and policies to protect your citizens. Those treaties exist on paper, but enforcing it is another thing. I have lost count of the number of times I had to pay additional fees at Benin Republic border in order to get my passport stamped for entry into Cotonou, despite the fact that there is an ECOWAS Protocol on Free Movement of People among the Member States, in place. There are several ways to circumvent the treaty, but I do not want to spill the beans here....  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:26pm On May 31, 2017 |
menxer: And all that you have explained is the domestic law that guides the relationship between the UK and Nigeria?
How do you define international law? Google is your friend. I know you were taught the basics of research in school. This is the time to put what you learnt into use... |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:21pm On May 31, 2017*. Modified: 6:56pm On May 31, 2017 |
Rossikki: There's a big problem with your assumptions here. Most serious trading nations have set up protectionist barriers that prevent the "trade and expansion" of your imagination. Plus, you will struggle to compete with China and the like, for access to those markets. With Nigeria, you have a 200 million-strong market at your disposal. Nigeria is projected to be the world's 3rd most populous nation, after China and India, by 2050, with a population surpassing 1 billion. Those statistics are GOLD for the industrious and entrepreneurial Igbos. But they want to abandon this huge market, this world class opportunity to really explode their wealth and reach, to retreat into some tiny ethnic kingdom, for reasons best known to them. Not smart at all. Leave dem, nah!  Do you know how much the Nigerian Customs Service will make from tariffs and import duties to be levied on Biafran goods?  In fact, those taxes would make their goods so uncompetitive in our local markets, that their exporters will bite their fingers at the losses they would incur. |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:16pm On May 31, 2017 |
ISpiksDaTroof: So, Ghana never expelled Nigerians from their country in the past or you just want to come on here and feed innocent kids with lies again like you've always done? You forgot to tell him that Nigeria also expelled over 1 million Ghanaians from this country in 1983 and the heavens did not fall!  Or where does he think the term 'Ghana-must-go' emerged from? He thinks it is just a description of those tarpaulin bags with zips, used to carry cash around? |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:12pm On May 31, 2017 |
wristbangle: You have analysed it well.
Let me add to your explanation.
Recall that last year, British seek referendum from EU (brexit) which they said by Oct last year, they will become a separate entity on their own? You remember right? Guess the aftermath, pounds currency plunged to all low since 1984, EU countries would not want to recruit brits into their workforce, etc which forced Britain to delay full referendum considering they have more to lose than gain. To think of it, this is a country among the top 10 best economy in the world.
Even the football sector was not spared, imagine clubs like chelsea, Manchester United, etc., paying almost three times as much money as they pay before hence even pay high wage to secure EU players.
When the consequences keep hitting them, they temporarily suspended the brexit frail till when they see they will be sustainable enough to bear their burden without dangerous hit back.
In as much as Nigeria doesn't profit it's citizens, IPOB members need to realise that our past/present polithievans(hausa, igbo, yoruba, etc) are the ones denying us the right to enjoy the wealth of this nation.
They should ask why their regional representatives are silent on this issue?
Anyway if they secede today, good for them (which is what I want anyway) but imagine millions of SE indigenes in lagos, FCT, etc who have to back to their region and apply for visa, work permit to earn income through business trade, job/career, education, etc.
I rest my case. Well said!!  Couldn't have put it better myself. I wish there was a way to dash you 1,000 likes for dis post.  Now that we are breaking down the outcome of their proposed actions to them, I hope they would all wake up and smell the coffee. Please collect two chilled bottles of the best drinks from Mama Tamuno's stall down the road. All the drinks are on me.  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:07pm On May 31, 2017 |
GeniusDavid: Just when i thought my evening couldn't get anyway better, I stumbled on this thread. Laudate, some quite interesting rational thesis you've made. The more you look at it, the deeper it gets and then you realise the Supreme Leader, god of war and progeny to King Odin: Lord Nnamdi, hasn't even had an all-around thought on every possible outcome of the so-called referendum or Separation from the zoo as they say. Can't rule out Biafra ending up as a failed state like Zimbabwe or South Sudan. Na true word you talk, my brother!  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 5:01pm On May 31, 2017 |
Qelvin: I don't want your reality, its worthless to me, could care less if you recommend a million books to me, I hate you not just because you are a bloody Nigerian, but you represent an entity that makes me only see oppression and utter worthlessness to the cause of my people...a caveat of a mistake made by a British cu.nt in person of Lugard, we share nothing in common and I more than want the complete severance of all Igbos from Nigeria...let all their businesses and empires crumble, it will not be the end of the world, they will have a better environment to refit and reorganize, to hell with you man. You hate me because I am a Nigerian? Ah, ok. Hate is a strong word, o. It poisons the soul. Kindly get rid of the hate, before it kills you.  Each time you travel, which passport do you present to the immigration authorities at your international destination? Is it a Nigerian passport? If it is, then kindly burn your passport so we can take you seriously. Until then, all your rants would hold very little meaning for the rest of us. |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 4:53pm On May 31, 2017 |
Agumbankembu: Even if they make money from them, that is their right to do, do we look like we can't pay to run businesses outside Igboland? I agree. And when your expenditure exceeds your income, what would be the next step? |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 4:49pm On May 31, 2017*. Modified: 6:23pm On May 31, 2017 |
Agumbankembu: Indians and Lebanese are here subjugating you in your lands, making money and sending home, or should I talk about the Chinese, you aren't better than them, are you?
Majority of Ndigbo stay in Igboland, propaganda can't change that, unless you show me a reputable source which indicates that. Enyi, don't worry. There are still millions of Igbo living outside Ala Igbo. Nigerian govt will make tons of money from them, when it is time to issue them with CERPAC, work permits and other necessary documents. And I forsee a new non-resident taxation policy in the making. It will be levied on Biafrans that still have businesses in Nigeria, but are currently residing in Alaigbo.. |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 4:45pm On May 31, 2017 |
Qelvin: Pssh Nigeria na country before? Nyggah please! Please by all means let the deportation begin already, if its the USA,England, France and other top European countries deporting Igbos en masse then I will be very worried...heck even better countries like Ghana, Botswana, Ivory coast, Senegal etc.. will gladly open their borders for Igbo business genius to thrive and help informally with their economies, who made Nollywood what is is today? Igbos of course...the fact that foreigners all over the world watch Nollywood is because of the likes of Osuofia, Mr Ibu, Pete Edochie, and loads of stars that give Nigeria some image of respect through entertainment...we will pack our Nollywood and give it a brand new image in Biafra, create a revenue to make it a part of our GDP, a Biafran football team will have no issues thrashing a weak Nigerian team consisting of aboki's, yorubas, and other unforrunate minorities(except we dash una Ihenacho, Iwobi, Ndidi, Onyekuru etc), is it in technology we willl be found wanting? even the biggest Igbo hater will admit that nobody can touch us in ingenuity, we are blessed with educated stalwarts in the diaspora who will be more than willing to come to the new found republic to invest their talents(I gladly will!), millions of curious foreigners will gladly apply for a Biafran visa and passport to come and see what these new republic is all about; thus creating an awareness that there are opportunities worth investing in Biafra...we will make new alliances and diversify our natural and human resources...and not depend on Oyel like brainless Nigerians who can't see past diversification...man I already need that deportation to start already!!! maybe it will make delusional Igbos who believe in the useless one Nigeria dream, bring home their businesses and enterprise to Igboland, fu.ckk Nigeria, hope that country burns soon. Guy, did you ever read that book by Harold Robbins, the fifth-best-selling fiction author of all time who is estimated to have sold 750 million copies of his works? It was called 'Dreams Die First.' It is good to see people like you who would rather buy into an illusion, instead of waking up to reality.  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 4:38pm On May 31, 2017 |
fulanmafia: I'll chip in on this one, its the Home office ( a UK dept).
Ever heard of a trade embargo (such as the the U.S has against Cuba)?
So you want to leave the ZOO but still do profitable business with it?
You guys are really cracking me up over here . Oh, I am just seeing your response. I didn't even know you had given him such a good answer....  |
Politics › Re: What Will Niger Deltans Really Gain From Being Part Of Biafra by laudate: 4:27pm On May 31, 2017 |
Develpeast: Laudate, I am not a nairaland personality who you guys argue with irritating words. If you cannot have any logical argument, then I believe we are done here. There is nothing irritating about what I wrote.  You are just the one who failed to see the logic in it. Sorry, can't help you. |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 4:25pm On May 31, 2017 |
menxer: It's like you argue for arguing sake without recourse to the points you raised. When you said UK enacted immigration laws against Nigerians back then, who help them enforce it?
Nigeria can make a law not to trade with Biafra, it is still an international law because it guides the relationship between two sovereign countries.
Must international law be enforced by a third party?
Na wa to your reasoning. Guy, na you suppose check your reasoning, now.  You were the one who originally assumed that international laws would govern the relationship that Nigeria would have with Biafra. When the error of your logic was pointed out, you resorted to this. Kindly read up on the difference between international law and domestic legislation.  Now let me answer your questions. When UK enacted immigration laws against Nigerians and other Commonwealth citizens, it was done because such immigration laws fell within their sovereign purview, and the law was (and still is) enforced by its own border control agency, upon those coming into its country. Immigration Enforcement is currently handled by a division of the UK Home Office, which is responsible for enforcing immigration laws, in the United Kingdom. Now if you like, do not get a UK visa in your Nigerian passport, before you get to any UK entry point. You will be deported on the next plane back to Lagos. That is the enforcement of their immigration law. |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 3:50pm On May 31, 2017 |
menxer: You misunderstood my using international diplomacy to mean international community pressuring Nigeria. What I meant is, when two countries are relating with each other it's international diplomacy.
International means "beyond national boundaries," in the event Biafra becomes a sovereign country Nigeria's national laws would no longer apply to them but international laws and by that I don't mean to say new laws would not be made in that regard.
Besides, I am not a Biafran or IPOB sympathizer, this is just my opinion for the sake of this discussion. Bros, there is no law that compels two sovereign nations to establish international diplomatic relations with one another. It takes two to tango. You cannot automatically assume that Nigeria will establish diplomatic relations with Biafra, if it becomes an independent country tomorrow...  By the way, who would enforce these international laws that you made reference to? The United Nations? Do you know how many communiques, resolutions, meetings and committees would have to be created to compel one country to accede to the wishes of another? |
Politics › Re: What Will Niger Deltans Really Gain From Being Part Of Biafra by laudate: 3:35pm On May 31, 2017 |
Develpeast: It is you who is seeing the inconsistency. A united south has more influence than the east in Biafra. A united south has no influence against the north talkless of the west in Nigeria. You can debate that all you want.
An urhobo tribe will be well known, better represented in Biafra than Nigeria. You debate that all you want.
Urhobo and other southern minorities have for once in history to negotiate their individual existence before agreeing to be part of a union. If they do not agree, then they opt to stay back with the country.
It is something that you must do and you will not shy away from it. Negotiations must be in place because everyone will be starting from the beginning. It is a big task, but it is worth trying. The Urhobos are saying they do not want to unite with you, and yet you are still insisting on it by dishing up some half-baked theories, that any schoolkid can see perceive as hogwash. Haba! Na by force??  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 3:31pm On May 31, 2017*. Modified: 4:12pm On May 31, 2017 |
kingzizzy: If you take Britain that just left the EU, over 3 million EU citizens in the UK. Will Britain deport them? No, not really.
In the event of Biafra seceding from Nigeria, both sides will have to discuss the sharing of assets, liabilities and debts. This means that there will be a discussion on 'Biafra/Nigeria' reltionship and the status of its citizens. A 'transition period' will have to be agreed on to allow the agreemwnts take effect
It is not likely that Nigeria will start deporting all Igbos straightaway as this could illegal under international law. Another reason why Nigeria wont do this is because it will damage Nigeria and the Nigerian economy irreparably before the international community. No international investor will ever step foot in Nigeria ever again when hear that Nigeria deported millions of people it once called brothers.
Such mass deportations only destroys the credibility of a country Deportation does not destroy the credibility of anything. The UK and USA have been conducting deportations of foreigners from their soil for many years (especially Africans), but it has not affected their credibility one bit. It is this false confidence that you chaps hold on to, that amuses me.  In the past, Nigeria did not give in to your claims. Yet you chaps are cocksure that today they would sit down to discuss "Biafra/Nigeria' reltionship and the status of its citizens." Whosai?!  Assumption is the mother of all fvckups.  Even if they embark on such discussions, Nigeria would have the upper hand and such discussions could drag on for several years! Diplomatic ties are not built on assumptions, illusions, blackmail, subtle manipulations or force. Like I said before, "If you want to establish diplomatic relations with another country, and that nation refuses to recognise you or to agree to establish ties with your country, what will you do?" Are you going to hold a gun to their heads to do so? Nigeria may not deport 3 million Biafrans in one fell swoop, but they could enact laws to make it difficult, (if not nearly impossible) for Biafrans to visit or settle and do business within their borders. There is something called ease of entry and exit. And every sovereign country holds the aces in this regard. That is why today, Botswana citizens with a valid passport do not need a visa to visit the UK, while you and I as well as citizens from over 40 other African countries, do. |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 3:22pm On May 31, 2017*. Modified: 7:34pm On May 31, 2017 |
menxer: You are reasoning from the point of hate, don't forget by then international diplomacy would play its role as Nigeria would be dealing with Biafra as a sovereign nation and all the diplomatic abracadabra would play out. Bros, grow up. Nobody is reasoning from a position of hate. We are just telling you the reality on the ground.  You know very little about international law and diplomacy, to think that pressure can be brought to bear on a sovereign country on how it conducts its internal affairs with regard to immigration. Prior to 1976, Nigerians as well as other commonwealth citizens did not need a visa to visit the united Kingdom. All that changed, when the UK govt enacted new laws to prevent the influx of immigrants. What did the international community do about it? Nothing.  There are several other countries that have changed their immigration policy to suit their socio-economic reality.  What has the international community done about it? Zero. Were you not on this planet when Saudi Arabia refused to receive fellow Middle-Eastern neighbours from Syria and other war-torn areas, into its borders? What did the rest of the world do? They allowed Saudi Arabia to have its own way.  Nigeria is a signatory to a lot of international treaties. How many has it domesticated locally?  Even the ones it has domesticated, how many have been complied with? Continue to bank on international diplomacy to resolve issues, that cannot be backed up by any means of enforcement. I laugh in Cantonese!! If you want to establish diplomatic relations with another country, and that nation refuses to recognise you or to agree to establish relations with your country, what will you do? Are you going to hold a gun to their heads to do so?  You are now banking on the rest of the world to use diplomacy to fight the cause of your Biafran citizens within Nigeria, the same way you chaps thought that Trump would support your plans for secession. Una well done!  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 3:03pm On May 31, 2017 |
Rossikki: They are banking on the "zoo" to give them an "option"? I no know say you sef see am!!  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 2:59pm On May 31, 2017 |
menxer: It won't get to that archaic method, the option to neutralize would be made available to those that doesn't want to go back or have dual citizenship. Says who? Who will give them that option to naturalise? Nigeria?  Let me laugh very well in Greek.  I want to see how you would force Nigerian govt to offer this option.  |
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 2:53pm On May 31, 2017*. Modified: 3:11pm On May 31, 2017 |
Rossikki: Latest estimates put the number of Igbos resident outside their region at 7 to 10 million.
Is the SE prepared to welcome this number of "returnees", after they are declared illegal aliens in Nigeria, and promptly deported? Good question.  Anyone who has the answers should please share them with us. The Nigerian govt will make a lot of money from entry visas, CERPAC, residents permit, work permit etc. annually, once the Biafrans decide to return to Nigeria.  Don't forget that many of them still want to eat their cake and have it. They want to remain in Nigeria running their businesses, and at the same time they want to be citizens of their proposed newly-independent country. What is the population of Biafrans among the Nd'Igbo serving in the federal govt agencies, institutions and parastatals? One needs to look at it.  They cannot continue working in sensitive positions and agencies, since they would no longer be citizens of Nigeria. They would have to relinquish those posts, for bona-fide Nigerians, don't you think so?  |
Politics › Re: Doctors Without Borders And 50 Years Of Biafra’s Ingratitude by laudate: 2:29pm On May 31, 2017 |
Chukazu: Why can't some people read at all?
This news was published by Sun Newspaper It shows the true state of the war, the well organized grand plan of genocide through starvation, which many Nigerian leaders have continued to deny including Obasanjo, but now we know better
It shows those we can truly call our enemies, the likes of Russian, British and Americans, and those who stood by us as friends in deed like Norway (how can one forget the stock fish nutrition) Sweden and Israeli brothers
Now been ingratitude, because we lost in the war, any act of gratitude would seem to the Nigerian government as seeking support from their enemies, I mean how much can one really do when you are not In control of power?
According to a Buddhist proverb.. "to humble an empire, it makes sense to desecrate it temple"... That what Nigerian system and government have done to the south East, because even the Mausoleum of Nnamdi Azikiwe has been abandoned by Nigerian government
But out of the ashes we rise! And your South-east governors, community leaders, millionaires and socio-cultural groups are sleeping which is why they cannot team up with the Azikiwe family, to renovate the mausoleum of the late Nnamdi Azikiwe? Would it be regarded as a taboo, if they did that?  Do you know how the South-West governors team up each year to celebrate Awolowo and honour his legacy? |
Politics › Re: What Will Niger Deltans Really Gain From Being Part Of Biafra by laudate: 2:21pm On May 31, 2017 |
Develpeast: The truth remains that you are scared and in this country, you love playing the little one watching the big boys fight. When the fight comes to you, you will need to call your friends to join you in the battle field which might not always work out well for you because your friends have one or two beef with you.
I believe you say you are urhobo and from what is known in this country, you do not have a fair face in the nation's decision making regarding your tribe. You only depend on the portion that you will get when the south south is called upon. I hope you know this not a fair stand from your tribe because you all need to be heard and when you talk, people will able to listen. Urhobo people need a nationalistic face and Biafra will give you that.
If we come to the worst case scenario, i.e what they say we want your oil. How do you feel when 19 states who do not care about you are receiving more than your tribe receives. You might say delta state receives one of the largest allocations in the country, but what is the share of urhobo people and what is the share of zamfara people in your national cake? igbos are bringing forward, 5 states and a population of 30 million to eat with you, of which they too have oil in their backyard. which is better? A northerner who doesnt even know there is a tribe called urhobo or a tribe who still cherish lives and property and have not in any time taken what is yours.
Urhobos will be richer in biafra, I mean thrice richer than their present wealth in this country. More people will have access to the wealth of its people than what is obtainable in this country.
You have the opportunity to fight for resource control before you join. Isn't that all you want all these years, fighting and crying?
Urhobos do not stand a chance based on ethnic nationality to head this country nigeria, but you have every opportunity to head biafra when you combine forces with other ethnic groups to oust the igbos from the presidency. You know its an easier fight there and you will not deny it. Igbos do not really fight for these positions and they are business minded to chase it most times that is why the east have the lowest voters when it comes to senatorial elections because they simply do not care. If you even look at the presidency, they just dont vote because they do not see it as a success. You have not instilled any reassurance in anybody with this long epistle. It is riddled with inconsistencies. And stop recycling this fallacy that the "Urhobos ....... have every opportunity to head biafra when you combine forces with other ethnic groups to oust the Igbos from the presidency." What strange forces are those? How on earth will an Urhobo man become president in an Igbo-dominated Biafra?  Are you talking to schoolkids? Una no even fit tell beta lie. Chai!  |
Politics › Re: 4 Crucial Reasons Why Igbos Have Not Fulfilled Their Destiny - Reno Omokri. by laudate: 2:12pm On May 31, 2017 |
kingzizzy: 50 years on, you still have a country as disunited as the day the war started, so what was the point?
We should go our separate ways without firing a gunshot, as we should have done 50 years ago, thereby saving millions of lives You are just digressing. Go back and answer my previous question. Stop beating around the bush.  |
Politics › Re: Updates From The IPOB Declared Sit-At-Home Protest (Pictures) by laudate: 2:10pm On May 31, 2017 |
steppins: I can't bothered to explain. I'm not your creator who gave you an empty brain. I see. Thank you for letting us know that your brain is truly empty. Accept my sympathy.  |
Politics › Re: Doctors Without Borders And 50 Years Of Biafra’s Ingratitude by laudate: 2:09pm On May 31, 2017 |
vagabondMynd44: Nigerian soldiers didn't starve biafran children. The biafran soldiers did. They preferred storing food for themselves and the few men they had left to fight leaving the women and children to eat faeces
It was traumatic and terrible I tell you.. Igbos formed hierarchy among themselves, some were to survive by all means while some had to die Hmmn.... how sad.  You forgot to add that the Biafrans were offered a land corridor through which food could be sent to their enclave, but their bearded general rejected the offer. He claimed the food could be poisoned if he agreed to that option, even when there was NO proof to support his assertions. And even though such a thing had never taken place, or was never likely to happen. |