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Education › Re: RELIGIOUS TENSION: We Don't Want Christian Workers Again In Our University by laudate: 12:02am On Jun 05, 2017
malton:
Look, you're daft!

Do not mistaken the intolerance of your people to mean a lack of willingness to live with anyone.

You guys are the biggest beneficiaries of this union. Without it, you'll be no better than the present day Somalia.

Of the five, the first two were installed because you guys hadn't more qualified candidates than either of Ishaya Audu or Norman Alexander at the time. In addition, were he not Ahmadu Bello's personal physician, Audu might not have been appointed. Because his was a slap to their face. You'd understand why only if you know the history of how his family converted to Christianity.

Or you think we have forgotten so soon how Professor Nok was denied a clear win on account of him being a Christian of Southern Kaduna extraction?

Also, if you had been to any university in the East, you wouldn't have drawn that embarrassing analogy.
Exactly!! sad In the federal universities located in the Southwest, Muslims have also been VCs in different universities, at different points in time! Especially, in Lagos. So what is he saying, sef? shocked Does Zaria not have a sizeable population of indigenous Christians from Kaduna State?
Education › Re: RELIGIOUS TENSION: We Don't Want Christian Workers Again In Our University by laudate: 11:58pm On Jun 04, 2017
Hash86:
It isn't about ' you can't live with northerners' it's all about 'Northerners not willing to live with you people'
Just forget about the topic of the post which is misleading nobody says he doesn't want to leave with anybody, is all about fairness. Out of 12 ABU Zaria's VCs 5 are non Muslims how is that possible in the south
Out of 12 VCs in ABU, 5 of them were Christians. And so what?shocked What is so bad about that? It means 7 of those VCs were Muslims. What on earth is your problem with that? Is ABU now a state-owned university, and no longer a federal university?
Properties › Re: Properties For Quick Sales by laudate: 11:46pm On Jun 04, 2017
Barbara007:
36 plots of land directly facing the road at ibeju Lekki, it is a quick sales the owner want to sell to recoup money for a project, price is N1.5m per plot.
What area in Ibeju-Lekki? Is it on firm land? Does it have a CofO or a gazette?
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 11:03pm On Jun 04, 2017
kingzizzy:
The above you posted was when Ojukwu was still Military Governor of the Eastern Region and still under Nigeria. What I meant about Ojukwu controlling the Oil was after he declared Biafra
Nope. What I posted was about events that took place, after Ojukwu had declared secession. sad

kingzizzy:
What you posted about Nigerias Naval strenght and their ability to enforce a blockade is laughable. Another Lagos/Ibadan media concoction. The Nigerian Navy was just roughly 10 years old when the war began in 1967. Im sure they had some gun boats, rafts maybe even some small vessels. But they had no Warships to enforce a Naval blockade, not even close. To enforce a Naval blockade, one woould need Warship almost as large as the oceanliners that deliver and take goods. Gun boats cant do that.

British Warships blockaded Biafra, Russian Airplanes flown by Epyptian pilots gave Nigeria air superiority.

International intervention won the war for Nigeria. Nigeria has never won any war where they were not militarily supported by at least 2 nations. Had the international community stayed clear of the Nigerian/Biafran affair, their wiuld be no country called Nigeria today
What I posted about Nigerian naval strength in the 60s comes from a reputable source, which cited old war records. sad I even provided the link and url. Are you saying all those vessels, NNS Ogoja, NNS Lokoja, NNS Nigeria etc., did not exist? shocked Provide your own facts and sources as well as the url links, so we can all read and verify.

All your theories about needing naval warships as big as ocean liners do not hold water. How many nautical miles wide was Bonny? What makes you think that three or four smaller vessels could not have enforced a blockade in that area? huh

As for airplanes, your so-called Biafran airforce relied heavily on mercenaries, just like the Nigerian side. Count Gustav von Rosen that Swedish fighter pilot along with Portugese, American, German mercenaries, flew fighter jets on behalf of Biafra during the war. His flights for Biafran rebels were carried out using small Malmö Flygindustri MFI-9 light aircraft produced in Sweden, in the 1960s in a ground attack role.

By the way, didn't France also support your Biafra and provide them with weapons? Why are you now acting like your Biafra was handicapped, after you had asserted that "Ojukwu was in a very good position to have won the war. Ojukwu had the support, manpower and the Oil"?
Politics › Re: Ohanaeze To Igbo: Come Out And Vote In Lagos LG Elections by laudate: 10:43pm On Jun 04, 2017
Origin:
With their numbers and if they united they could front an Igbo Governor in Lagos and win.
On which planet would that happen, please? Don't you chaps want Biafra again? shocked
Politics › Re: "The Goals They Want To Achieve With New Biafra" - Tanko Yaksai by laudate: 10:31pm On Jun 04, 2017
Amberon11:
Why are you raining insults on him? His father can be ikwerre and his mother Kalahari. This is the very reason the SS can never join Biafra. Your fellow igboid groups can join but for all the insults you have meted on the rest of the rest of us, we will never join.
I no know say you sef see am! shocked It really baffles me, that many of these IPOB chaps cannot reason logically. Are inter-ethnic marriages forbidden in Nigeria? huh Do you know how many of such mixed unions (i.e. Ikwerre/Kalabari) exist? Both ethnic groups are in the same Rivers State for goodness sake!! angry
Politics › Re: "The Goals They Want To Achieve With New Biafra" - Tanko Yaksai by laudate: 10:14pm On Jun 04, 2017
7lives:
Ignorance is terrorism, ( Ojukwu never Declare a war, he only declare Independence ) Does Nigerian Constitution made provision for declaration of Independence.
If it's that easy, so many villages would have become a country.

Get knowledge, get wisdom, GET A GRIP, I rest my case.
Una no go take laugh kill person for here....!! cheesy shocked grin
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 10:00pm On Jun 04, 2017
OAUTemitayo:
The United States and Europe held that any referendum without the express approval of Ukraine is illegal?
What nonsense!
When America, Europe and NATO in general backed Kosovo forces to secede from Serbia did they seek approval from the Serbian government?
He'll no!.
Instead they launched airstrikes against Serbian military.
The people of Crimea didn't give Krushev the authority to transfer them to Ukraine so that argument holds no water.
And your 58% assumption is wrong.
I keep telling you to stop believing thrash told by BBC about Russia, it's junk.
You call it ... nonsense??! shocked Haba! Did you even read about the reasons they gave for disagreeing with the referendum? No, you just jumped in here to call it 'nonsense.' undecided Anyway, since you have refused to free your mind and reason logically, who am I to disagree with you?

Nobody said that the people of Crimea gave Krushev the authority to transfer them to Ukraine. So where on earth did you get that idea from? huh Certainly, not from my post.

And the 58% population of Crimean citizens, who are cited as being Russians were not given by me. It was from a census conducted in Crimea in 2001.
According to the (2001 census), the ethnic makeup of Crimea's population consists of the following self-reported groups: Russians:1.18 million (58.3%), Ukrainians: 492,200 (24.3%), Crimean Tatars: 243,400 (12.0%), Belarusians: 29,200 (1.4%), other Tatars: 11,000 (0.5%), Armenians: 8,700 (0.4%). This combines the figures for the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol, listing groups of more than 5,000 individuals. "Autonomous Republic of Crimea". 2001 Ukrainian Census. Retrieved 2014-03-24.; "Sevastopol". 2001 Ukrainian Census. Retrieved 2014-03-24 . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea#cite_note-5
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 9:37pm On Jun 04, 2017
TheCabal:
You know this how ?
He must be psychic. cheesy He knew it by telepathy. He was not born during the war.... so he must have seen it in a dream.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate:
kingzizzy:
As I said before, Ojukwu was in a very good position to have won the war. Ojukwu had the support, manpower and the Oil. Had Ojukwu been able to export Oil and buy arms, food and other supplies, there is no magic that Nigeria could have done to win the war. The reason Ojukwu lost was the Naval blockade enforced by British Warships. In 1967, the Nigerian Navy was still in its infancy, It was just roughly 10 years old. Nigeria had no warship or even the technical know how even operate one. Nigeria did not acquire any Warship untill the 80's. Even now, Nigeria has no carriers and less than 5 Standard Warships. Warships cost hudreds of millions of Dollars. So when you say that Biafra was the weaker side, I laugh. The massive military support Nigeria got from Britain and Russia is what won the war for Nigeria.
Ojukwu had....what? huh Which manpower and which oil? shocked The same oil that he could not get any royalties from? undecided The same oil that Shell agreed to remit its' proceeds to the Federal Govt?

You claim that Ojukwu lost the war because of the naval blockade. NO!! angry That was not the only reason. He lost the war due to his shortsightedness, megalomaniac tendencies, poor military strategies, failure to properly strategize and anticipate his opponents actions, failure to accept advice from well-meaning individuals within and outside his enclave, failure to distinguish between propaganda and reality, failure to recover from the currency changes carried out by the Nigerian govt during the war, failure to provide independent sources of food for his teeming Biafran population, inability to replenish weaponry and expended arms etc.

Just for the records, your theory about Nigeria lacking naval ships, is not totally accurate. They had a few ships which were retrofitted with weapons.

Nigerian Navy on the Eve of the Nigerian Civil War

Before the Nigerian Civil War, the Nigerian Navy had acquired a considerable number of platforms either by new construction or by transfer of old ships from the United States, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Germany, and France.

Nigeria’s only frigate, NNS Nigeria, was constructed in the Netherlands in 1965. Many ships owned by the Nigerian Navy originally belonged to either a European nation or the United States. Nigeria, with its ambition of developing a sea-going naval force, had refrained from acquiring only older vessels, but rather followed a pattern of buying newly constructed ships from the naval dockyards of Europe and the United States.

Foreign technical expertise was readily provided by the British before the Nigerian Civil War, and the Russians during the war, covering planning and execution of maintenance activities.....

Before the first shot was fired during the Nigerian Civil War, the Nigerian Navy had already been called to duty. The Navy was ordered to carry out a blockade of Port Harcourt and the Bonny littoral space, thereby denying the Biafra Republic free access to and use of their harbours. The blockade was introduced by the Federal military government to stop ships from anchoring at the two Biafra ports....

During this period, the ships were few and unsophisticated and, apart from this, they were refitted abroad. However, second level maintenance was properly planned and executed by well-trained technical personnel using maintenance facilities and spares provided. As expected, maintenance and availability of ships throughout this period under foreign technical management was good as evident in the successful use of the vessels to prosecute assigned tasks in the Nigerian Civil War...

During the civil war, NNS Ogoja led all nine coastal operations from Lagos to the coastal areas of Biafra. There was NNS Nigeria (a frigate) which was the flagship; it was too big for such coastal waters as the entrance from Port Harcourt to Bonny. It would have been too risky to assign NNS Nigeria for such coastal operations within the Nigerian waterways; as such, it was used as a guide up to the fairway buoy in the entrance of Bonny.

The ships that took part in the coastal operations in Bonny were: NNS Nigeria, the flagship under the command of Captain Soroh; NNS Penelope, under the command of Commander James Rawe, which was the Nigerian Navy scout ship; NNS Lokoja, a landing ship, under the command of Lt. Cdr. A. Joe; NNS Ogoja was under the command of Lt. Cdr. Akin Aduwo; NNS Benin was under the command of Lt. Fingesi; NNS Enugu was under the command of Lt. A. Abdullahi; MV Bode Thomas was under the command of Captain Laniyan, Merchant Ship and Logistic Ship, Nigerian Port Authority; MV King Jaja was a Merchant Ship and Logistic Ship belonging to the Nigerian Port Authority.

The Navy’s assignment was to liberate Port Harcourt, Calabar, Warri, and other coastal states. NNS Ogoja functioned in an assault capacity followed by NNS Lokoja carrying the troops and their ordinance for a landing, later described as one of the best operational assignments by any of the navies in the world.....

At the Bonny jetty, the landing went on without hitches for the Nigerian troops. Unfortunately, Biafra naval forces on NNS Ibadan, a vessel seized at the Calabar naval base immediately after the declaration of Biafra, had sighted the Nigerian troops landing ashore. A few kilometres from Bonny and Peterside, the town opposite Bonny, the first battle to control the sea began. The Nigerian Navy through NNS Ogoja was able to incapacitate the seized ship now owned by Biafra. The Biafra commanding officer beached the ship at Boiler Point and escaped with his surviving men into the mangrove swamp.

With the neutralisation of NNS Ibadan, the Biafra Navy was no longer a threat to the Nigerian Navy. The Biafra forces however attacked Bonny again after sending aircraft to bomb the ships on patrol in Bonny and the oil tank farms. The Nigerian Navy was able to safeguard this oil terminal and the aircraft were repelled by naval ships through its Anti Air Warfare(AAW) ammunitions, without causing any damage to them....
http://www.ijnhonline.org/2016/11/17/nature-and-impact-of-involvement-of-the-navy-in-the-nigerian-civil-war-1967-1970/
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate:
OAUTemitayo:
Sometimes I just laugh at you people following western media on Russia internal issues.
You are the most misled people I have ever seen.
1. Crimea has always been Russian.....Fact
2. It was Nikita Khrushchev an ethnic Ukrainian who gifted Crimea to Ukraine as a gift when he was the Soviet Leader. .....Fact
3. Over 90% of Crimeans are ethnic Russians...... Fact
4. When former Ukrainian leader was forced out of power by rioting protesters, the first thing the new regime did was to cancel the use of Russia as a language in schools, offices and all line of public administration ( Just tell me how Ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea will be happy with such?)
5. Crimeans rejected such and with the aid of Russian supported insurgents seized the critical assets in Crimea
6. They first declared Independence (Against your assumption that Russia seized their land)
7. They conducted a referendum on whether to join Russia or not
8. Over 90% voted to join r
Russia ( Of course Crimean Tatars voted against, it's not unexpected, majority must have their way while minority have their say)
9. Russia accepted their reintegration back to where they have always belong in their heart.
10. As for the part he visited, it was Sevastopol.
Misled? huh In what sense? shocked It is sad that you have just quoted facts, but have not placed them within the proper context.

Crimea, Ukraine, Russia and other EU countries are located in Europe. If I needed to get news about any of these countries, would it not make sense to tune in to the likes of CNN International, BBC, Skynews etc. who have reporters on ground in those places, and news gathering operations within those territories? Would I be seeking for news about these countries from NTA, WAZOBIA radio or Voice of Nigeria? Especially when they do not have reporters on ground in these countries, and they lack a media bureau in those places?

I do not speak Russian, so surfing a Russian news channel would not help. Are you trying to say that you have never checked the Western media for news about Western nations? So what do you mean by 'misled?' shocked

First of all, Crimea is populated by a mix of different nationalities, not just Russians. Both Ukraine and Crimea (when it was formerly under Ukraine) used to be part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (U.S.S.R.), before the soviet bloc broke up in 1991, into about 12 different independent Soviet republics. Russians are said to make up 58.3% of the Crimean population, followed by Ukrainians which make up 24.3% percent, then the indigenous Crimean Tatars which are now over 12% (but used to be 34%). Other ethnic groups are Belarusians, other Tatars and Armenians. So to say 90% of Crimeans are Russians, is wrong.

According to historical records, Crimea was part of old Russia in 1783, but was then transferred to Ukraine in 1954. Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev was a politician who led the Soviet Union during part of the Cold War. Khrushchev saw the transfer as a way of fortifying and perpetuating Soviet control over Ukraine. undecided

Yes, Crimean legislature and the local government of Sevastopol (which were both subdivisions of Ukraine), had declared their independence in March 2014. But that was prior to Russia's annexation of the land. After this declaration they then opted to join Russia, through a referendum.

But then, the Ukrainian government, United States, European Union, and several other nations stated that "any referendum held by the local government of Crimea without the express authority of Ukraine is unconstitutional and illegitimate." It was also stated that Crimean authorities do not possess the legal jurisdiction to conduct it. How can a referendum be held by a district or a state within a country, without the express approval of that country's govt authorities? You sef, check am nah. cheesy For example, when Scotland held its referendum, was it done behind the back of the UK prime minister, or enacted without the approval or support of the UK authorities?

Even the advisory body of the Council of Europe, composed of independent experts in the field of constitutional law faulted the referendum. sad It declared that the referendum was illegal under both Ukrainian and Crimean Constitutions, and violated international standards and norms, because self-determination was to be enacted within the framework of the existing borders, and not as an external self-determination through secession. Moreover, any referendum on the status of a territory should have been preceded by serious negotiations among all stakeholders, and that such negotiations did not take place.

Just before Crimea declared independence, there was unrest in Ukraine as well as parts of Crimea which led to a military intervention by Russia in Crimea. It took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider unrest across southern and eastern Ukraine.

On 27 February masked Russian troops without insignia, took over the Supreme Council (parliament) of Crimea, and captured strategic sites across Crimea, which led to the installation of the pro-Russian Aksyonov government in Crimea and the declaration of Crimea's independence.

Ukraine considers the annexation to be a violation of international law and agreements by Russia, including Agreement on Establishing the Commonwealth of Independent States in 1991, Helsinki Accords, Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons of 1994 and Treaty on friendship, cooperation and partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine.

The event was condemned by many world leaders as an illegal annexation of Ukrainian territory, in violation of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, signed by Russia. It led to the other members of the then G8 suspending Russia from the group, then introducing the first round of sanctions against the country. The United Nations General Assembly also rejected the vote and annexation, adopting a non-binding resolution affirming the "territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognised borders". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation
Now, I do not dispute the fact that your friend visited Crimea or Sevastopol. But I doubt if he sampled the opinions of a wide range of Crimeans drawn from different ethnic groups. If he spoke to the Russian citizens resident in the city, he would get a response that would be quite different from those held by the Crimean Tartars or those of other ethnic groups in Crimea, based on recent events that have taken place there. undecided

There have been many reports of legitimately-owned assets of Crimean citizens and Ukrainian businessmen being seized by the state authorities in Crimea, after independence was declared and the entire territory was annexed by Russia. Are you saying those reports are false? Are you implying that those who have had their assets seized, are happy with the turn of events? Would such people not be disenchanted with the pro-Russian regime in power? sad
Politics › Re: Biafra Receives Knock As South-south Disown Secession Plans by laudate: 4:00pm On Jun 03, 2017
7lives:
Why force referendum on other tribes?, you no know the boundaries of Igboland?.
Oh I forgot, you guys are land grabbers, wonder shall never ends, a tribe that hate others now wants to play lovey dovey because it will help their selfish domineering agenda.
How about encouraging the SS and MB to struggle for their own Independence?, you said they were slaves in Nigeria, yet you want to force them into another in Biafra helloooo who exactly are you trying to fool?.
Even with the so called referendum, did you guys honestly think these people will follow you.
The world has evolved beyond your myopic view, what seeds have your fathers sown into the lives of the people you want to take with you, other than exploitation?.
Or don't you think that one good turn deserves another?.
You dey mind dem? In their deluded mind, they are also planning to foist a referendum on Igala people in the Middle-Belt, Itsekiri people in the Niger-Delta and God knows how many other ethnic groups, elsewhere. Igala people are almost 50% Muslim & 50% Christian, while the Itsekiri people are more closely related to the Yoruba, than any other group. I don't know why these pro-Biafra crew do not think properly before making tall claims. mtcheew....
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate:
OAUTemitayo:
While I agreed with most of your points, your stand on Crimea is very very wrong.
Crimeans are very happy to be in Russia.
A friend that visited the place in December told me that Ukrainian sentiments there is hardly existing.
They are ethnic Russians so you should know they will be at peace with Russia than Ukraine.
Which set of Crimeans? shocked The ones that recently left Russia to go and settle in Crimea? Or the Crimean indigenous people such as the Crimean Tartars? What part of Crimea did your friend visit and how many people did he talk to?

Crimea's New Russian Overlords Are Seizing Thousands Of Businesses | LAURA MILLS and John-Thor Dahlburg, Associated Press | Business Insider |

One day in October, a dozen armed men in masks drove up to the gates of Yalta Film Studios. They weren't actors, and this was no make-believe. It was a hostile takeover, and the movie sets, littered with debris from a Crimean War reenactment and a faux Mexican village, were the target.

"They forced all the employees onto the ground, sealed off the premises and halted the work of the studio," said owner Sergei Arshinov. The studio, nestled in hills overlooking the Black Sea, is just one of thousands of businesses seized from their owners since Crimea was annexed by Russia.....

Owners have complained that the beneficiaries of some seizures aren't Crimea's people, but the local politicians now in charge, backed by Moscow. Their appeals to police, courts and even Russia's leading authorities, they told AP, have gone nowhere.

"It turns out that, as corrupt as the Ukrainian government was, they didn't allow themselves to do what the Russian Federation is now doing," said Zhan Zapruta, lawyer for a bus company seized by armed men in September...

"If we look at the law, then there is no basis for this — it's simply a takeover," Garfner said. The nationalization attempt, he said, "was clearly just a land grab, because it's big money."

Since joining Russia, Crimea's leaders have asserted a power none of their counterparts in the vast country's other regions has: the right to order nationalization of property. They also possess a unique brand of muscle: the so-called self-defense forces that answer to Aksyonov, and helped quash dissent during the campaign to secede from Ukraine in February and March. Those forces, made a permanent police auxiliary force on Nov. 26, have been involved in many of the real estate takeovers...

IT'S A CIRCUS'
For many in Crimea, euphoria over union with Russia has ebbed, and the property grab is one reason. Food prices have also surged, the inflow of tourists to the Black Sea peninsula's beaches, spas and hotels has flagged, and the hoped-for flood of investment from Russia has yet to happen.

Serhii Kostynskyi, a former Crimea-based businessman, journalist, and analyst, is one of the many thousands who have left to live and work in mainland Ukraine. He likens present-day Crimea to a town captured by an army and handed over to the victorious soldiers to loot.

"It's a total policy of banditry," said Kostynskyi, citing a term from the Russian underworld: bespredel, or utter lawlessness.

http://www.businessinsider.com/crimeas-new-russian-overlords-are-seizing-thousands-of-businesses-2014-12?IR=T
Politics › Re: How Ojukwu Starved Thousands Of Biafran Children To Death by laudate: 2:50am On Jun 03, 2017
Aluko was grandstanding. US declassified documents have shown that Ojukwu rejected relief in the form of food coming into Biafra through a land corridor, for its' citizens.

6. Biafra has so far blocked both daytime flights into their one working airstrip, and various proposals for a land corridor, ostensibly for military reasons. The Federals reject air drops as potential gun running, and a river corridor as a military disadvantage.PA/HO Department of State EO 12958 as ammended April 21 2005 (Declassified) https://2001-2009.state.gov/documents/organization/54578.pdf
TV/Movies › Re: Zee World Movies And Soaps Official Fan Page by laudate: 2:24am On Jun 03, 2017
So Roshni Patel, Sid's wife did not die in that train crash in King of Hearts. She has now undergone a makeover and has become Ragini Desai. I wish her mother Didi Patel had not died in the previous episodes. This show is just going from bad to worse.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate:
TheCabal:
At the recent Kampala Peace Talks, Dr. B. J. Imkeme from Calabar, a retired Senior Medical Officer in the employment of the former Eastern Nigeria Government, who is well known to the other side, gave a resume of rebel atrocities in the South-Eastern State in the following words:

It was clear to all right thinking people that these people (the minorities) wanted to remain within the Federation of Nigeria but with States of their own in which they enjoyed the right of self-determination. This did not suit the Ibos of the newly declared ‘Republic of Biafra’ and so they were determined either to force the 6 million non-Ibos into their Republic or to exterminate them systematically. To this end, Ibo soldiers were quickly sent to all non-Ibo areas with instructions to keep down the people, detain or even kill all who dared raise a voice in protest against the idea of ‘Biafra.’

The Provincial Secretary for Calabar, an Ibo man, called a mass meeting in June, 1967 and addressed the Calabar people thus, and I quote: "‘You Calabar people say you want a State of your own. Let me tell you that by the time the Federal Troops come here to enforce this mad idea there will be no one left but grass and weeds, for we shall have flattened your land and lolled all you Efiks.’"

From then on, the non-Ibos of the Eastern Region were subjected to torture, detention, all forms of human indignities and even killing.

In Asang, a town in Enion Division where I come from, and which is just a mile from Okpo, my own village, all the inhabitants numbering about 400 were carried away to an unknown destination. Two women, one a relation of mine, who had been bed-ridden for two years were slaughtered in cold blood because the soldiers said it would be a burden to carry them along and they were under instructions not to leave alive any person in the town. On the way out a woman gave birth to a babe, and was groaning in her travail. The soldiers bundled her out of the canoe which was taking them away, shot both mother and the innocent child only a few minutes old.

In Attan Onoyon, another town in Enoing Division, the whole town was burnt down together with all the people the Ibo soldiers could lay hands on.....
Wow!! shocked I had forgotten about this book. This is an excerpt from CRISIS AND CONFLICT IN NIGERIA : A Documentary Sourcebook 1966-1970, Volume II by A.H.M. Kirk-Greene, isn't it? It was published by Oxford Press.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 2:00am On Jun 03, 2017
Ojukwu: Hero or Villain? | By Max Siollun on December 16, 2007

The federal government attempted to implement the Aburi agreement in diluted form by enacting a modified Constitution (Suspension and Modification) Decree which turned Nigeria into a de facto confederation. Ojukwu declined to accept the initial draft and insisted on a full and complete implementation of the accords reached at Aburi.

Nonetheless as the weaker party he could still have showed greater pragmatism to spare further suffering for his people. At this point Ojukwu’s decision making must be questioned. Ojukwu would have saved many lives had he shown a greater degree of flexibility by accepting the Decree as it gave him 90% of what he wanted. In the “winner takes all” mentality that is so symptomatic of Nigerian politics, Ojukwu unrealistically held out for 100% of his demands and in the end, received 0%.


His intransigence placed him and his people in a worse position than they started in. Rather than turning Nigeria into a confederation (which is what Decree 8 did), Ojukwu ’s intransigence gave the federal government an opportunity to overrun the Eastern Region, carve the country into several states and concentrate massive powers in the central government. Forty years later many Nigerians now call for the restructuring of Nigeria, and for devolution of power to its regions.

Ojukwu had a golden opportunity to achieve this over 40 years ago but squandered it. Had he shown some patience he may have achieved his objectives – albeit at a later date. The old adage is that “the best comes to those who wait.”

Ojukwu could have taken a leaf from the book of another infant country named Israel. For several decades Jews fought to be given their own state in what was then British Mandate Palestine. In 1947, they were granted their state but only on half the land that they wanted.

Realizing that it is best to accept what is achievable today, rather than risk holding out for 100% and getting nothing, Israel’s first leader David Ben-Gurion accepted a state but cleverly did not enunciate the borders of this state – this leaving the door open to agitate for more land at a later date. Today the “green line” borders of Israel encompass more land than it originally had at independence. [/color] https://maxsiollun./tag/ojukwu/
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 1:54am On Jun 03, 2017
Gowon’s creation of 12 states in May 1967 has its root in Decree 8, 1967 which he promulgated in March as his answer to demands by Lt-Col Odumegwu Ojukwu for the implementation of the Aburi Accord, named after the venue in Ghana of the meeting held on January 4 and 5, 1967, at the initiative of the country’s military authorities to stem the drift towards the country’s disintegration which began with the first coup in January 1966.

As a result of that decree, the title of the military head of state changed from Supreme Commander to Commander-in-Chief and his word ceased to be law without the support of the regional governors on subjects like commerce, industry, transport, armed forces, police and higher education. In addition, military area commands were to be created as part of the accord. Apparently as military governor of the most aggrieved Eastern Region at the time, Lt-Colonel Ojukwu did not think these and other concessions were good enough.

Not even when the secretary of his government, Mr. N. U. Akpan said the said decree in his view “faithfully implemented the Aburi decisions,” as Professor Jonas Elaigwu quoted in his 2009 “Gowon: A Scholarly Biography of a Soldier-Statesman.”

However, whereas Ojukwu did not accept Decree 8 ‘67 as good enough, virtually all the senior technocrats who were at the Aburi talks condemned it as giving too much away against Nigeria’s interests. Read more at http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/columns/-true-federalism-and-all-that/148320.html#LyoiumQLala1kXfq.99
You can also read this:
“True federalism” and all that… By Mohammed Haruna | Publish Date: May 25 2016 5:00 AM |
In rejecting the decree, Ojukwu stood alone among his colleagues. And his rejection, along with other decisions he had taken like his seizure of some national assets in his region, led to the conclusion among the federal authorities that the man had made up his mind to curve his region into a sovereign nation.

Gowon’s state creation was partly his preemptive strike aimed at isolating Ojukwu. Contrary to the revisionism we have been subjected to all these decades, that move was widely acclaimed as wise. For, up until then giving minorities in each region their sub-regions was widely considered a solution to their agitations that had started even before Independence in 1960. Read more at
http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/columns/-true-federalism-and-all-that/148320.html#LyoiumQLala1kXfq.99
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 1:51am On Jun 03, 2017
Here is an old post from this link: https://www.nairaland.com/3620860/enduring-grip-historical-falsehoods-igbo#53587429
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Ok, some story tellers are using Akenzua's memo to claim that someone else scuttled the chances of a peaceful resolution. Akenzua was just one of the permanent secretaries in Gowon's cabinet. Other permanent secretaries saw things differently. Here is another perspective.

I mentioned in another thread, that Decree 8 met 80% of the demands Ojukwu made at Aburi, yet some simpletons rained invectives on me. angry A wise man would have accepted the decree, and pushed for its implementation, with a view to getting the rest of his demands met, at the end of some other day. But not Ojukwu. He threw everything out of the window, and announced a secession. Now, it is gratifying to see that some other folks have analysed the whole issue, and reached the same conclusion.

Here is another view shared by former super permanent secretary Philip Chukwuedo Asiodu's in an old interview concerning Decree 8 of 1967:

WHY ABURI ACCORD FAILED, BY ASIODU |tnv | THE NIGERIAN VOICE |

Asiodu: But coming back from what I was saying. Go and read decree 8, if we had implemented it - in three months, we would have had four independent states.

Q: Why was it not implemented?

Asiodu: "Because, it didn't satisfy the Easterners. The decree had been promulgated by Gowon. It was to be implemented then. But it was seen by Ojukwu as not being sufficient. I am saying that politics is something which has to be played with some tact. Sometimes my brothers there see black and white where there is immediately green in between. Sometimes, there is really no finesse in politics. They will think the reality is not important as how you get there. The reality was that Nigeria was finished under decree number 8. The reality is that although it was finished, they didn't proclaim 'we hereby dissolve Nigeria'. But that was of no effect. You go and read it. But it was rejected...." https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/thread/12170/87243/1
Asiodu: "Then few of us- Alison Ayida, late Aliu Martins, myself, Abdulaziz, who served in the East, 'we went to ask Ojukwu what is it you want so that we could prepare the ground for a meaningful conference, where every side would know what they are saying.' Eventually, just as Ojukwu was warming up to tell us what he wanted , so that we could have come back to Lagos, sell those ideas to Gowon, and see if we can reach agreement, C. C. Mojekwu came and broke up the meeting.

He destroyed that last chance, and we flew back empty handed. Before they started cooking up the Aburi, they went to with unequal preparation. But before then, General Gowon was only communicating with him as an officer. He did know that behind Ojukwu, people were working. So, we didn't want Ojukwu to get the wrong impression. In anyway, we then agreed that a letter be prepared, addressed from my house, signed by Alison Ayida,who was in Oxford (cuts in, he was in Oxford too?) at the same time? Two of us signed this letter trying to spell out to him the consequences of what will happen if secession was declared. That there would be war and if there is war, until you vanquished federal authority, you will not get recognition which will give you access to the sea, and so on.

I can be embittered. I can feel for my people. But I have a duty to make sure that every step I take, I have calculated all the scenarios and make sure that in the worst scenario , I am not taking them to a worst decision
. https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/thread/12170/87243/1
Asiodu:"When they subjected this Aburi accord to simple analysis, it was simply saying Nigeria is no more practically. And as far as was concerned, the civil war or no civil war, then chaos would have started later. All the same, we said look, … if we still want to be a country….authority which deals with customs, currency, federal trunk roads, foreign and external defences, that is more than enough for a government. But it must be able to act.

You can not say that in the Ministry of Defence, you can not promote somebody a Lt Col, except you have a unanimity. You cannot move one plane to another place except through unanimity. Even when you have those limited powers, they must be able to function. And you cannot function in the context of those things they said. And then what you have is four countries.

Q:And the permanent secretaries vetoed it?
Asiodu: "No. The permanent secretary made analysis and said look, if you are really serious, if you say you are having Nigeria, you must have central function which must be fulfilled. There is no need saying this is central function and you cannot fulfill it. So, we analysed and said these were based on incorrect premises. People came with proper papers, well formulated. The other side just went thinking they were going to do initial breaking of the ice. Therefore, please try to reconcile this to ensure that we still have a country.


Gowon in fairness, vetoed that approach, and still proceeded to have decree number 8 of 1967. If you go and read that decree, and if the East had accepted that decree, there would have been no need for secession. Nigeria would have disintegrated within three months. And you can not move anybody without unanimity. You collect revenue, you cannot transfer it…"

Q: Decree 8 was an affirmation of Aburi accord?
Asiodu: It was an affirmation of the Aburi accord which gave the East under Ojukwu, more than 95 per cent of what Aburi meant. But because there were maybe one or two phrases which they didn't like, if they read that thing and it is still there, they'd have got what they wanted. But it was such that, hostilities would have broken out among four independent countries. Not one on one.

And I think, we don't have much time now. With the present challenges in the country and the lack of serious effort to address the issue, we may even be in worse position if we are not careful. Because, this time, it will not be federal versus Biafra, but among 110 million people. So we are going to end up with warlords, if authorities should finally break down and I appeal to God that we avoid that, by stopping all these jokes as if we can continue milking this country forever.

What we are doing is not sustainable. And the sooner we address, try to create a new national austerity programme, discipline ourselves, decide that we cannot be millionaires, billionaires in little islands with a whole ocean of poor wretched people, there would be this tsunami which will overwhelm all of us
.https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/thread/12170/87243/1
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 1:16am On Jun 03, 2017
HarryDuce:
Just read through your post from the beginning to the end. I'm sure you know that it makes no sense. Be the judge.
Hehehe... everyone knows that chap you quoted, is nothing but a revisionist. wink All that talk about plebiscite was just an attempt to confuse people, and quote facts out of context. If the authorities in the old Eastern region were truly sincere about conducting a plebiscite for the minorities in that area, why didn't they do it when the old Midwest region was being carved out of the former Western region? huh Why didn't Ojukwu conduct a plebiscite before declaring secession? Cunning man die, cunning man bury am! grin
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 1:08am On Jun 03, 2017
kingzizzy:
You are defending Gowon, I am defending Ojukwu. What this should show anyone is that we are different people who have our on different outlook. Since we cant agree, it is only natural to accept that 'one Nigeria' isnt worth the paper it is printed on. Disintegration becomes inevitable. Coming back this thread, when Biafra is achieved, it is almost inevitable that Biafran and Nigerian leaders will have to sit down and discuss the sharing of assets and liability accumulated since 1914. In that meeting, the issue of citizen rights will have to discussed. An example is, what happens to Igbos who have Nigerian mothers and are entitled to dual Nigerian/Biafran citizenship? What about Igbos married to Nigerian women? What about Igbos who own landed properties or other investments in Nigeria? The reason why these questions are important is that it doesnt just affect Igbos, it affects all foreigners in Nigeria. There is no such thing as having one law for Igbos and another for someone from China, we in a democracy not military rule.

In the worst case scenario where Nigeria decides that all Biafrans should go back home.

1) Igbos have the largest investments in Nigeria outside Nigerians themselves. Asking them to go will see the largest capital flight in Africas history and one which Nigeria will not recover from for years to come. Nigerians dont seem to realise that nobody practices 'one Nigeria' like the Igbos. It is an Igbo man that will go to a jungle in Sokoto and build a house.

2) A mass deportation of Igbos will destroy the Nigerian economy. No international investor will ever step foot in Nigeria because what the investor will ask himself is 'if they could do that to people they once called brothers, what can they do to me?'

3) The standing of Nigeria in the international community will be that of a 'spiteful country' ruled by emotion rather than sense.

4) In other to successfully mass deport Igbos, Nigeria will to enact retrogressive imigrations laws that not only infringes on the rights of Biafrans, but all foreigners.

5) Mass deportations will increase international sympathy for Biafrans while making Nigeria a pariah nation
Again, this is why your people are being asked to examine the pros and cons of their proposed actions before they embark on it. cheesy

1). If the Igbo take their investments out of Nigeria, the same Nigeria can also invite different business people from other tribes within Nigeria, West Africa and the rest of the world, to fill the void. This country is populated by resilient people. Yes, there might be a few shocks in the economy, but it would recover. undecided

2). Trying to use scare tactics about how a mass deportation of Igbo would hurt the Nigerian economy, is not going to yield much fruit. This line of argument suggests that you chaps want to eat your cake and have it. According to you lot, Nigeria is a 'zoo.' Everyone has been asking, why are you guys hell-bent on staying inside it, after your proposed republic is launched? shocked Are you scared? Don't forget that Nigeria deported over 1 million Ghanaians in the early 80s. What happened? Kindly remember that nature abhors a vacuum. If the Igbo move their investments out of Nigeria, other groups within and outside Nigeria (excluding the Igbo) would move in to take over those spaces left behind by the Igbo. sad

3). In the international scene there are no permanent friends, only permanent interests. sad Many countries grappling with difficult socio-economic issues, have used mass deportations of illegal immigrants as a means to tackle difficult immigration problems, and prevent crime. If a country like Nigeria, claims that it is just deporting illegal immigrants (who are no longer its' citizens by virtue of the fact that they are now members of a breakaway state), how many nations would contradict its' position, especially when they too have resorted to similar tactics, in the past? With the right diplomatic moves, international lobbyists, and multinational PR firms polishing its' image, that word 'spiteful', may not stick to Nigeria's image for long.

4).Nigerian authorities can enact any law they like, at any point in time. wink All they have to do is create an addendum or exclude certain groups from benefiting from the current immigration laws. Haven't you seen certain countries saying things like: " Citizens of XYZ region do not require entry visas, however this does not apply to citizens from ABC nation..." cheesy

5). Yes, mass deportation might increase sympathy for the Biafrans in the short-run. But in the long run, more nations may end up throwing their weight behind Nigeria. undecided A lot of Western nations are now more inclined towards maintaining their territorial integrity, and securing their borders. Encouraging separatist movements, is now seen as a dicey option which could backfire if different communities (within these Western nations) decide to embark on this trend. In this decade, more Western countries want peace and stability, rather than political upheavals. undecided
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 12:00am On Jun 03, 2017
potter7:
Who feed you this bullshit your spewinghuh You thought ojukwu was "hell bent on going to war"?? Go back to your history books​ and stop spreading half baked information you overhead in a beer parlor.
And who taught you to be uncouth and mannerless when exchanging views online with others? huh Information about the Nigerian civil war, its causes, factors and effects are already in public domain. Go and acquire knowledge in this area. Or is that too difficult for you to do?
Politics › Re: We Expect Yoruba Youths To Be More Like Fela & Less Like Tinubu - YFB by laudate: 8:39pm On Jun 02, 2017
conductor3:
https://web.facebook.com/youthsforbiafra/photos/a.448233185538216.1073741828.448226305538904/448233075538227/?type=3
Na wa for you people. wink You have not received your own Biafra yet. Instead of focusing on how to get it, you are now advising the Yoruba youths on who they should imitate. Biko, are you chaps so afraid of the future that you need the Yoruba youths to also adopt your Atilogwu dance of secession? shocked

Anyway, let me perch in this corner and allow the Yoruba people on NL to give you an answer... cheesy
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 8:19pm On Jun 02, 2017
kingzizzy:
Of course a government can ammend its laws. Im going by what is on the ground at the moment. It is not for me to say what they Government might do or not do. I an one person who believes that Igbos should think about home and developing their land. A mass deportation might be a good thing for Igbos for 2 reasons. It will finally show the doubting ones that 'one Nigeria' was always a scam and also, it will force them to repartrate their investments home.
Good! Now stop singing that song of dual citizenship, or dancing to that tune about expecting the Nigerian govt to allow Biafrans to naturalise or hold automatic residence permits, to stay within its' borders...
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate:
kingzizzy:
What does it take to push the Igbos out? The 50, 000 of them that were slaughtered? The Aburi agreement that was broken? An agreement is an agreement. You dont sign an agreement and come back and say you offering 80%. If Ojukwu had accepted that, what stops Gowon coming back a week later to offer only 40%? If Gowon felt that the agreement he signed in Ghana was to be ammended, it was incumbent on Gowon to call another meeting and discuss an ammendment. The break down of the Aburi agreement was because of the inability of Gowon to implement what he signed. Blame Gowon not Ojukwu.

Gowon left Ojukwu with no option than to declare Biafra when Gowon changed the structural arrangement of Nigeria by abolishing the 4 Regions and creating 12 states. Even as at that, Gowon could have tried other acenues for peace such referendum, plebicite ir a second Aburi meeting. But Gowon rushed to war as his first resort when it should have been his last resort. If Ojukwu had really wanted war, he would have never agreed to go to Aburi where he signed an agreement ti recognise his junior, Gowon, as head of state.

All this was because the Northern oligarchy wanted to dominate the political and economic life of Nigeria. Unfortunately for them, neither Ojukwu nor Igbos were about to take it laying down like slaves as the rest of Nigeria were prepared to
You are beginning to sound like a broken record. undecided If the Nigerian govt at that time wanted to push the Igbo out, they would not have initiated a police action to compel Ojukwu to drop the idea of secession. In fact, Ojukwu was the one who started laying the groundwork for secession, when he started taking over all the federal govt assets in the old Eastern region, and was asking Shell to pay oil royalties directly to him, instead of the federal govt, like they had always done. sad

As for Aburi accord, getting 80% of your demands met, is better than getting nothing at all, not so? shocked undecided If Ojukwu had agreed to take that 80% share that was offered, Nigeria would have been a confederation by now, the civil war would not have taken place, and most likely the 3 million Igbo souls that were lost would probably still be alive today. cry He should have taken a leaf from Ben Gurion's book who negotiated the borders of Israel's lands, several years ago.

Finally, in order to put a stop to Ojukwu's secession bid, Gowon created 12 states, which was a masterstroke. cheesy He wanted to weaken Ojukwu's power base, in order to make Ojukwu see reason, and also wanted to give the minorities of the old Eastern region their own voice. If he wanted to push the Igbo out, would he have done this? Ojukwu did not expect this kind of reaction from Gowon, and it left him floundering. His followers like you, are still making the same mistake till today. Read up Sun Tzu's book The Art of War. It would help you understand a lot of things. wink

Now kindly stop derailing this thread with all your lamentations about Ojukwu and the civil war. Focus on the topic at hand...
Politics › Re: 6 Nigerian States With Largest Muslim Population by laudate: 7:59pm On Jun 02, 2017
veraponpo:
I may not be sure in totality with your statistics but I am sure that :

Taraba is predominantly a Christian State (90%)
Same for Benue (90%)
Same for Plateau (90%)
Nassarawa is about 50/50
Adamawa is 55% Muslim, 45% Christian
Even Gombe state has a number of its citizens who are Christians.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 7:47pm On Jun 02, 2017
kingzizzy:
Personally, I do not believe that the Nigerian Governmebt will embark on some mass deportation exercise of Igbos when Biafra comes. I say this for the following reasons.

1) Biafra is most likely to be multi-ethnic:- Contrary to what some people may think Biafra may not be comprised of just Igbos. It is most likely to be multi-ethnic which means that any sort of deportation will have to take that into consideration.

2) The laws of Nigeria is that anyone born in Nigeria automatically becomes a Nigerian citizen regardless of where their parents come from. I know many Igbos who were born outside Igbo land in places like Lagos, Abuja, Kaduna etc. These Igbos cannot be deported because they are entitled to both Nigerian citizenship and dual citizenship.

3) Although Nigeria can insisit that all Igbos return to Biafra, doing so will damage Nigeria internationally
Has it occurred to you that government can always amend or even repeal any of its own laws, at any time for any purpose? shocked Continue deceiving yourself that the Igbo cannot be deported, because they are entitled to both Nigerian citizenship and dual citizenship. Is it not the Nigerian govt that grants Nigerian citizenship till date? You think they cannot change the laws concerning this aspect? All it takes to change that, is a stroke of the President's pen!!

Afterall, Fashola deported some people from Lagos at one time, and most of your kinsmen cried. Can you see why we keep telling you that assumption is the mother of all errors? sad
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate:
kingzizzy:
You need to brush up on your Nigerian history. All the things you said in the above happend after the war already started except that of Awolowo who visited Ojukwu before Ojukwu declared Biafra. In that visit, Awolowo publicly said that if Igbo leave Nigeria, Yorubas would do the same. When Ojukwu seceded, insread of Awolowo to rally the Yoruba nation and fighting for their sovereignty, Awolowo as the typical 2 faced Nigerian politician he was accepted political position and started saluting Gowon who was young enough to be his son.

Ojukwu did everything he could to avoid war. He went to Ghana and signed the Aburi agreement so that there would be peace, Gowon broke the agreement. Ojukwu offered Gowon referendum so that there would no war, Gowon said it must be 'one Nigeria'. Gowon then declared war and invaded Biafra. Ojukwu never went to war, war came Ojukwu. All Ojukwu did was fight to defend his people.
And you need to let go of your propaganda. sad Unfortunately, this thread's objective is NOT the civil war, so I do not want to derail it. What Awolowo said was that "if the Igbo were allowed to secede or were pushed out, the Yorubas would be left with no option but to follow suit." The question is: were the Igbo allowed to secede or were they pushed out? NO. angry In fact, Gowon initiated a police action to compel Ojukwu to drop his secession plans and remain within Nigeria. undecided Awolowo also begged this same Ojukwu to give him notice and rescind his stand on secession, because the South-west was still occupied by Northern soldiers.

As for the Aburi accord, a decree was enacted which would have given Ojukwu 80% of his demands that were made at Aburi. He rejected it because he was hell-bent on going to war. A wise man would have accepted that offer, and gone back to the negotiating table to ask for more. Just like Israel did, under Ben Gurion. undecided

Ojukwu instigated the war by declaring secession. sadEven after it started, he was given options from several quarters to put an end to it. He refused. Only to turn round and abandon his people on the battlefield.
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 7:00pm On Jun 02, 2017
jpphilips:
This wasted spermatozoa has no idea that Schengen is an EU migration policy? what am i doing responding to a r@tard who hasn't written WAEC, get the fvck off my mention before you infect me with your exponential stvpidity.
Bros, you have made some valid points, but please kindly let us keep things civil. undecided The purpose of this thread is to give the pro-Biafra advocates some food for thought, and make them undergo a process of introspection. Anger and harsh words may derail that objective. Daalu zi! cheesy
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate:
sad lipsrsealed sad shocked huh
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate:
kingzizzy:
Sorry bro but most Igbos dont share your sentiments. The war was forced on Ojukwu. It was far more incumbent on Gowon as head of state to prevent war than for Ojukwu.

Ojukwu was faced with two options. Bow down and accept Nothern domination like Awolowo and Yorubas did or rise up and fight for your sovereignty and freedom. Now which option did you expect an Igbo man like Ojukwu to choose?
Eewo!! Wetin I dey see here? shocked Who fed you this recycled piece of propaganda? "The war was forced on Ojukwu. It was far more incumbent on Gowon as head of state to prevent war than for Ojukwu...." huh

Was it not the same Ojukwu that African leaders including former President Habib Bourguiba of Tunisia appealed to, to desist from war at the OAU Summit meeting in Algiers in the sixties? huh Was it not the same Ojukwu who was so hell-bent on going to war, that he lost the support of Zik? Was it not the same Ojukwu that Awolowo begged to give him notice and review his stand on secession, because the South-west was occupied by Northern soldiers? Was it not the same Ojukwu that Soyinka attempted to broker peace with, in order to stave off the war, only for Soyinka to be thrown in prison on arrival in the West? sad
Politics › Re: Will Igbos Be Deported From Nigeria If Biafra Is Declared? by laudate: 6:31pm On Jun 02, 2017
blueseacats:
I would have taken you seriously, but when I you mentioned all these multinational oil companies I realized you know not what you are talking about. In Nigeria individuals own about 50% of those oil wells then turn around and sell or lease them to multinationals. I know because thats my industry though I don't work in your county. 70 of that 50% are northern owned, when you ask for facts about what's going on in Nigeria I wonder where you expect that to come from when the country don't even know how much they make in revenues.
Point of correction. Nigerians only own less than half of the existing marginal oil fields. sad More than half of the oil blocks owned by Nigerians, are not even in production. The bulk of oil exploration and production (especially in deepwater) is controlled by the multinationals. Kindly crosscheck your facts.

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