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Solosolojohquay:
I think the story is true that the crown alafin is wearing now was given to him I used to wonder why the late alafin adeyemi always wore (abetiaja cap) during outing why the other lesser king wore their crown same thing is with the new alafin now always on cap I think the only crown the alafin has now is the beaded ancient crown proof me right if am wrong from this perspective is clear to note that ooni is the superior king can you if count the crown of ooni .

The problem is that in the past the most powerful Yoruba states were controlling Ife unlike now that the government is controlling everybody. If we were still using the old system the Ooni would be respected but not feared or obeyed. The person feared or obeyed will be the head of the most powerful state

Babinski:
It is a common historical account that the Ijesa people originally lived in Ile-Ife before migrating to Ilesa and environs. The Ijesa trace their origin to Owa Obokun in some accounts and to Owa Ajibogun in other accounts. Both were said to be sons or grandsons of Oduduwa.

No genuine historical account affirms that Ile-Ife was ever under the protection of Ijesa. Oduduwa is widely agreed as the first Ooni. It is also widely agreed that Ooni is contracted from Oonirisa meaning "owner or custodian of the gods or dieties".

Sorry to say but the "Omo Oluwo ni" story is no more than a feeble and laughable attempt at revisionism.

Of course there were people on Ijesa land before the arrival of Owa Ajibogun. Erinmoje was on Ijesa land. Owa Obokun who is son of the last Oduduwa came from Ile Ife and established a new dynasty and nation state but the land contained people before him. Remember that the last Oduduwa is not more than 1500 years ago and that is quite recent

Babinski:
The "Adimu" story is not supported by established historical accounts. It is highly unlikely that a slave would be elevated to Priest-King status and left in charge of an ancestral kingdom by Oranmiyan going by known Yoruba traditions and culture.

The Ooni is also known as "Arole Oodua" (heir to Oduduwa). It is therefore clear that Oranmiyan as a descendant of Oduduwa would be very unlikely to thrust a slave into the role of an heir to Oduduwa by installing the slave on the throne of Oduduwa.

According to Ijesa account, Oyo has not always been prominent and Ife was at one point mainly under the protection of Ijesa. The Owa Obokun was a son of Oduduwa and when there was civil war in Ile Ife, he quelled the war and said the unborn child of Oduduwa's Oluwo will be made King. Ijesa account says he was the one that impregnated the Oluwo that belonged to his Dad. The child of the Oluwo became the first Ooni. When the kid is regally dressed, people will ask who is this child and they will say Omo Oluwo ni which was contracted to Ooni

aribisala0:
Some things are irrelevant
Whether Old Ife kings were called Ooni or not is not relevant and you simply have no way of knowing that because you were not there

That is just a diversionary argument

Lagos was not always called Lagos so what?

Throwing in random unverifiable claims does not advance the argument
Claiming odu ifa is another unnecessary diversionary device
Are you a babalawo? Let us not get into all of that

The issues are simple
Today there is no basis for anyone to claim he is paramount king in Yoruba land .
There is nothing like Yorubaland. We can maybe talk of Yoruba land but not Yorubaland. So I agree that Ooni should not make such titles but NO ONE SHOULD. NOT OONI NOT ALAAFIN

Ooni of Ife is just like maybe the Pope

Elegushi and Oba of Lagos are more relevant than. Alaafin

The Alaafin can install the Aare ona Kakanfo and the title is recognized across Yoruba land. That is more or less the only title like that. Then the Alaafin is the most senior Oyo king representing the overall Oyo culture of Oyo, Ibadan, Ogbomosho, Ilorin. That is quite a lot. The Ibadan empire claimed to be working on behalf of the Alaafin and Ogedengbe of Ijesa before falling out with Ibadan went on expedition on behalf of Ibadan as far as Benin and etc. Ibadan was Oyo and was controlling Yoruba land up till the outbreak of the Kiriji war. Yoruba land was a consortium of sovereign states like the Greek states which fought amongst themselves and Oyo was the most successful in the past few centuries. Ife has been under protection since time immemorial. In the past the place was seen as a holy land and not a political headquarters. You can't be that when you are under protection

CodeTemplarr:
Proper Housing? - Housing is cheaper in the north.
Education/Healthcare - Their allocations from FAAC covers those.
Job opportunities - They dont want industries and are only passionate about political domination via religious brainwashing.
Internet - Satellite and GSM cost same for all.
Food - aside being basic, Nigerians spend 60-70 percent on it so anyone who overcomes that can never be the poorest region. Never.
Only intra-state transport is where they lack behind due to higher average distanc between locations.

I don't think housing can be cheaper in the North than in the normal second tier Nigerian cities except it is low quality housing. Building cost is the same. Then I researched number of hotels per state and found out kano has less than 250 hotels when Oyo has over 1000. I wonder if it is because of religion. They should not be poor because they at least have food and should be able to build on that. Then lack of education culture also adds to the poverty because if you are not educated that is a dimension of poverty. They need to start with compulsory education for all. They just need to take it as seriously as they take Quranic education. Then they move to supporting production even if it is leather products that they will start from. Another problem they have is that their culture sees nothing wrong with begging for alms and that can affect overall productivity

Zeebuy:
VAT has not, and has never been a criteria for measuring development in any part of the world. I don't know why you guys keep mentioning VAT. VAT simply shows how well a government taxes the citizens. The SE has, historically, not been focused on taxations as much as the SW has been.

Also, it's laughable you're basing your criteria on the number of hotels in a state. Imo State, I'm sure, has more than 1000 hotels

The information is available online. Rentech has all the data. I can't remember the figure for IMO but Anambra is the highest in the east and it is 749 hotels. It is the only SE state higher than Osun state. Osun is the third highest in the SW after Lagos and Oyo states. Delta has more hotels than any SE state at over 800. SW too is not doing IGR. Only Lagos is doing IGR in the west. All indicators that can be gotten say Oyo state is second to Lagos in everything apart from IGR. It can do the IGR too but the leadership is not yet ready

Zeebuy:
I don't think it's a coincidence that the SW state with highest number of non-yorubas, and also Nigeria's former capital, is one of the top states.
If you guys claim it's so easy, why have you never been able to replicate same in any SW state? Aside Lagos, every other state in the SW is a shithole

After Lagos the next most developed state is Oyo state. It used to be Oyo before Lagos as at decades ago. VAT collection attests to this. I researched the number of hotels and it says the same. Oyo has the second highest number of hotels in the country at 1008. I can't remember Lagos figure. Anambra is the highest in the east at 749 or so. Edo is around 725. Delta is over 800. Osun. Is 697. Only Anambra is higher than Osun in the SE. Enugu is just over 500.

flexyrule:
Is that what you tell yourself at night before heading to bed?

Without the Oil and gas from the Niger Delta, you won't ever see light to power your phone to type that comment.

Know this and know peace!

Oil and gas gives money to government. There are more than sixty million people earning income to feed a total of over 220 million in the country. Oil is less than five percent of the economy and it goes to the government which employs maybe 1.5 million people in total.

Putinofrussia:
SW really trying with the loads of the poor people from almost all regions of Nigeria pouring into SW especially Lagos everyday.
Praises to the Omniscient for keeping us safe.
Ondo has been consistent in leading the pack for a couple of years now.

If you go to other regions too, you will see Yorubas dominating many of the trades. Hausa come mainly for seasonal jobs. They have farms back at home that they go back to. I don't think for instance that Lagos is more cosmopolitan than PH but it has three times the population. It may not even be more cosmopolitan than Benin and high population is opportunity for revenue

gidgiddy:
In 50 years time, Gwari people will be claiming development because the capital was moved to Abuja

You can't compare the Gwari to Yoruba. Eighty percent of cities in Nigeria when the British arrived were Yoruba. Ibadan was the largest urban center. It is mainly Yoruba cities that got depleted for Lagos to grow. The Gwari had no city before colonization.

There are many dimensions of poverty. Lack of proper housing, lack of proper education, lack of health care, lack of job opportunities and even lack of internet access is a form of poverty and etc. People in the SW have more access to a quality life.
Agriculture and being able to feed yourself is the base of any economy and once you get that right the rest should be easy with good leadership. In the late nineteenth century what Japan had in excess was rice and not much else. Their ambitious government took rice tax from farmers and auctioned the rice in markets for revenue. They invested what they got in education and production. The government will set up companies and hand it over to private players later and now Japan is where it is today.

What should be done with sovereign debts?

High income countries should first deflate their cost of living by forcing down rent. If cost of rent reduces to less than three hundred dollars per annum for a three bedroom house then per capita income will not be more than three thousand dollars per annum in any country. It might be less. The GDP of western or high income countries will go down nominally by over 95 percent but productivity will increase since jobs will return from overseas. Their economies will stop being mainly service based. If the GDP goes down by 95 percent or more nominally and the cost of living is flattened out, prices of things will come down sharply and sovereign debts will have to be revalued down with the same factor with which the GDP nominally went down. The US sovereign debt of 37 trillion dollars will be revalued at less than five percent of that and etc. There will be a need to issue new currencies. It may not be necessary to reduce the sovereign debts for all countries. It will only be necessary for countries whose nominal GDP goes down. Then all sovereign debts can be added together and acquired by a new United Nations. The United Nations can be reformed in such a way that each country will contribute and send elected representatives according to economy size. Government revenue will be indicative of economy size and a small percentage of government revenue will be okay. You send elected representatives to the United Nations according to your financial contribution. Oil, gas and any other resources jointly agreed upon should be taken over by the United Nations for revenue too.
Nations can operate without debt. That used to be the case in the past and it can be the case again.
The whole world should then join hands together to pay off the debts with United Nations assets.
What the United Nations needs is to be reformed not an expansion of the United Nations security council.

MaxInDHouse:
You are deceiving yourself!

It's like telling people that the only way to avoid dying by food poisoning is to stop eating totally.

Ọmọ it's by verifying the type of food you eat not avoiding food completely because that will speed up death kíákíá!

Did we die when all cultures held on to their spiritualities and theologies?. No. We had one less reason to fight and kill each other. The world will be better off that way. Without religion

MaxInDHouse:
We aren't bothered if you don't accept our book but one thing is certain it's only adherents of our book that's making peace globally while all of you are fighting and killing one another for reasons best known to you! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Earth will be returned to spiritual tranquility and decorum as it was before religion and peace will be negotiated. Wars will end. It is a matter of time but it will not involve the whole world becoming Jehovah witness. Infact religion has to end before peace can be guaranteed as religion itself is another cause for war

MaxInDHouse:
It's an evil thing to be spiritually blind and deaf at the same time.

Now let me enlighten you why what you are saying makes no practical sense.

Imagine the only religion that promotes orderliness and unity in thoughts: Jehovah's Witnesses Organization as we bow to the arrangement set by Jesus all of us globally do things humbly with love, joy and peace {Galatians 5:22} so that whoever is with us can never ever pick up weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4; Matthew 26:52

Now to your idea where each person is listening to his/her own minds (spirit) Vladimir Putin is listening to his own spirit, Volodymyr Zelenskyy is listening to his own spirit and they are in control of thousands carrying weapons it led to war.

Had it been all of us subject ourselves to the same line of thought as promoted by Jesus {John 17:22} and his Apostles {Act 2:42; 1Corinthans 1:10; 1Peter 3:8} how can two individuals who have subjected themselves to Jesus believe in fighting and killings to resolve issues? Matthew 5:38-40

So we know that it's the same spirit that is blinding all of you even though you people are using different names to promote your me-first ideology claiming it's ifá/holy ghost that's speaking to each of you! 2Corinthians 4:4

Since people started using holy books instead of divination to know the will of God, what we have had are wars over God because interpretation of the book will differ. If a book can not be questioned that is a dangerous book. If President Putin and President Zelensky are fighting a holy war then it can never be resolved. Thank God they are fighting over territory. People have always fought over territory. Religion is a new reason to fight wars which never existed before holy books.
Whatever you say, it is better to rely on divination than on holy books which simple google will tell you is unreliable. Type contradictions in the Bible into google and see.
Even from your spirit, you can get wrong messages if you apply too much pressure and are over inquisitive. How much more when you subject yourself to a book you say can not be peer reviewed?. Nothing is more foolish.
However it is only something that is peer reviewed that can be accepted by the academic community and the whole world not your Bible

MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry each person will contact his or her spirit whether ifá or holy ghost and come up with different lamba!

If you really know how to contact your spirit, your spirit will confirm everything I have said. The problem we have in the world is that people no longer commune with their spirits as it used to be. They now rely on holy books

MaxInDHouse:
So your own ifá is related to Hinduism?

And you want to convince educated ones on Nairaland using Hinduism and claiming it's ifá.

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself you can only make sense to people who don't have any idea about ifá and never read books about reincarnation or Hinduism.

There is nothing like life for dead people in heaven all dead people are in their graves awaiting resurrection and no evildoer can be among those Jesus is taking their because whoever is going to heaven must be born again.

So continue with your lamba!

Other than knowing the basics of Hinduism, I have not studied it into depths. I know however of the belief in reincarnation but what I am saying are what I got by thoroughly interviewing my spirit with IFA divination. However most human cultures believe in reincarnation in one form or the other before religion came to upend the decorum. IFA just confirmed and explained it to me

MaxInDHouse:
But i'm not related to (Ògúndábèdé) Oníkòyí nah!

IFA told me that even Jesus still helps people when they call on him

MaxInDHouse:
OK so it's not only on earth that people can die there is death in heaven too shey?

Light spirits (Spirits with no incarnation can die through human actions). They usually die while helping human beings while heavy spirits only die when they drop from the last empathy rank by debate loss or by doing evil

MaxInDHouse:
Your previous response when i asked if it's possible to be a benefactor spirit in heaven yet as a former bandit on earth.

Yes if someone was bad on Earth does not mean the spirit can not help when in heaven. It is like if you have a bad parent that most people hate. They will still help you.

MaxInDHouse:
So back to what your earlier statement that being evil now doesn't automatically mean you can't become a benefactor spirit saint in heaven, right?

I said evil doing ends on Earth. You can't be evil in heaven. Any spirit you pray to can help you if it is still alive in heaven

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted shows you've been lying all these while because in our previous discussion you said Oníkòyí (Ògúndábèdé) is now a saint in heaven and i should pray to him for help.
So can you now correlate what you just typed up here with what you told me earlier today about being evil on earth?

Remember that Oníkòyí (Ògúndábèdé) was a renoun bandit who became rich and famous through robbery.

So go ahead i'm reading your next post!

Elimination from heaven happens only when you do evil or lose a debate at the lowest empathy rank. It does not happen automatically when you do any evil. For any habitual evil doer, elimination will be unavoidable in the long run but it may not be in a single life time

MaxInDHouse:
Question!


Answer!


So there is nothing bad in being evil since everyone will later become saints in heaven even though the evildoers they were here on planet earth but in heaven they will become saints and be in a position to help righteous souls on earth!

When you do evil you drop in empathy rank moving closer to elimination from heaven. If evil is your expertise gained from several incarnations, then there is no way you can escape elimination from heaven in the long run. When you are on an incarnation as an expert evil doer, other onlooking spirits will work hand in hand for you to lose debates and get eliminated from heaven.
If you are praying to someone whose expertise is evil, you might be praying to nothing since the person may have been eliminated from heaven

MaxInDHouse:
Question!


Answer!


So there is nothing bad in being evil since everyone will later become saints in heaven even though evildoers they were here on planet earth but in heaven they will become saints and be in a position to help righteous souls on earth!

There is everything bad in being evil because when you do evil you drop in empathy rank and that draws you closer to elimination from heaven. Also if you do evil often it will become your expertise and when you are incarnated other spirits will be planning for you to be eliminated through debate.
Spirits can help people with anything and it is not because they are saints. Everybody is well behaved in heaven because there is no allowance to do evil. Spirits can help you with practically anything but they often restrain themselves.
In short if you are prone to evil doing there is no way you can in the long run escape elimination from heaven

MaxInDHouse:
OK i can call upon the spirit of a terrorist thief who became famous through evil deeds on earth but now has repented in heaven to become a saint.
Meanwhile i'm not from the lineage of Oníkòyí which means we are not related in anyway but initially you told me that it's my own spirit god in heaven that i should connect with.
You are here always complaining due to people innocently practicing different religions like Christianity and Islam as if that's evil yet the same you said Oníkòyí who is a renown terrorist and thief has suddenly become a saint in heaven that i can connect for help.
Please don't you think popular people like the Popes or Great Kings and Queens or popular people like Ayodele Babalola, SBJ Oshoffa, Mose Orimolade, Kumuyi, Adeboye, Olukoya, Oyedepo, Idahosa, Oyakilome and many more famous people like Mohammad Ali, Michael Jackson will later become saints in heaven for people to start connecting them for help?

There are no villains in heaven largely because they can't hide secrets from each other and it is possible to call upon any spirit to help you. In heaven they cooperate with each other but don't have superiors like we do on Earth. Once you have paid your tax from the food you harvested on Earth you are free to do whatever you want.
Your own personal God is most important to you. It is what the Yoruba call ori. After that those interested in your progress are your ancestors. Your ancestors will help you automatically but then if you call upon any other spirit including those you mentioned they can mobilize help for you.
These are all answers I got while interviewing my own spirit with IFA. Other people can do their own research

MaxInDHouse:
Like what exactly did they do?
Entertainment, terrorist activity, robbery, fraud, riches, beauty and other weird things. I remember a man in the Odù known as "Oníkòyí" his ifá is called "Ògúndábèdè" he lived as a warrior and thief, according to his oríkì when leaving home he goes with a lot of treasures so that whenever he comes in contact with a warrior greater than him he negotiates with such a person but whenever there's no one to contend with him he steals and kills bringing spoils back home.
Till today Oníkòyí is remembered for his territor and robbery.
Do you agree that he is now one of the famous gods in heaven now?

If you call upon him he will help you and he might even be currently incarnated. Any spirit you call upon will help you. Spirits will often help their family members or people in their lineage over others but if you call upon them based on what they did during a certain incarnation then they will help you

However evil doing ends on Earth. There is no evil doing in heaven

Gabrielshow24:
Whaaaaaat 😳? You don’t mean it! 😳

Wow. Just… wow 😂. This your ‘theory’ is wild—Netflix no even get this kind script. Are you sure it was heaven they carried you to, and not Nollywood set? 😂

‘Empathy rank’? 🤨 Abeg, what’s that? 😂 Na video game abi na Pokémon card levels? So if I just dey behave nice, I go dey level up from E-rank to S-rank? 🤔 Make I no hear say I turn Sung Jin-Woo overnight oh 😂. Next thing now, una go talk say spirit food dey stocked like Jollof rice in coolers for heaven.

Honestly, thanks for the early morning laugh—my ribs don nearly scatter. I must have woken the kids up with this one 😂. If spirits dey really debate for two years just to give birth, abeg where dem dey stream am? I fit subscribe? 🤣🤣🤣

See as you downplay my months worth of research!. I was not taken to heaven. All I did was interview my own spirit using IFA divination

Ofunaofu:
If your concern is truly about upholding democracy and constitutional order, then that principle must be applied consistently not selectively, based on political loyalty.

You're calling Osun State a 'coup against democracy' for lacking elected local government officials, yet turning a blind eye to Rivers State, which currently has no democratically elected local government chairmen, is under an unconstitutional state of emergency, and still receives federal allocations simply because it serves Tinubu’s political interests, not the interests of the people. Why the double standard?

Selective enforcement of the law is, in itself, a betrayal of democracy.

Moreover, the Osun LGA issue is already before the courts and it is the judiciary, not the presidency, that is constitutionally empowered to resolve such disputes. Withholding federal allocations which belong to the people, not the governor is an unconstitutional abuse of power and an overreach of executive authority. Infact, An executive rascality

If President Tinubu truly respects democracy, he must defend it consistently not only when it aligns with his personal or political agenda.

I agree with you that all states should be held to the same standard. I believe once democratically elected leaders are lacking in the local government of any state then the allocations should be withheld

MaxInDHouse:
I understood fame made some humans gods amongst other humans but since you say each human has his/her own particular god what then makes the gods popular in heaven?

Do they become popular gods in heaven due to the fame they/their bodies had on planet earth?

Yes they become popular on Earth because of what they did on Earth. There is no spirit lording it over any spirit in heaven. Worship only goes from Earth to heaven never heaven to heaven

How do you address the issue of elections not being held in states with governors using sole administrators?. That is a coup against democracy and it is wrong to release local government allocations to a state that is not holding local government elections. There is a stale mate in Osun presently and it should be solved. An out of court settlement should be explored. It can be possible to hold a new election where all parties will participate

MaxInDHouse:
So in order word you are your own god and everyone has his/her own personal god in the so called "heaven"
What exactly does these gods want from humans?
Or
You're just saying this as another idea to be added to 60 billions ideas according to the number of gods and their human bodies here on earth?

Yes the God that owns you is the one you should tend first but as we have popular human beings we also have popular Gods and those are who Yoruba call orisa. Orisas are spirits of prominent ancestors and we also have the God grid that controls both heaven and Earth.