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Nchenches:
There are more than 70 million Igbos worldwide.
What else do you think Igbos need you tiny minority stragglers, undocumented persons of unknown ethnicity, for?

The whole population of the SE plus Delta North and Rivers Igbos is 25 million as can be deduced from their NIN registration figures compared to Lagos state assuming Lagos to be 23 million and that figure contains millions of non Igbos in the cities and other places
Igbos in Yoruba land should be around 2 million if Yoruba is 70 percent of Lagos and Igbo is one quarter of the rest added to less than 500 k Igbos in the remaining five states. Yoruba in Lagos can be eighty percent though

Igbos in the North will be like 700k. I know this because non Yorubas from all over the country are less than three percent of Osun. I grew up there and I am sure of this which means southerners in the North can't be up to two percent of the population by any means since Northern states are not as urbanized as Osun and Igbos will be less than one third of the total number of Southerners. Northern states are not half as urbanized as Osun.
Igbos in the US of the less than one million Nigerians there will be like 200k. In Europe maybe another 200k or less. Yoruba are more than half of Nigerians in Europe and North America as well as Australia

All Igbos in the rest of the world can not surpass one million maybe not up to half of that.

How then did you arrive at 70 million? Are you counting all African Americans as Igbos?

So from this analysis, Igbos worldwide are way below thirty million in population if you remove the non Igbos living on Igboid land.

If you are using too high estimates for yourself then you will be wondering why you are not making some mark when others are when the problem is that you are not up to what you think you are up to.

If Igbos were seventy million
Their segment of Nollywood would be the biggest
They will have a high number of high net worth people in Nigeria
They will have the highest number of Professors and even lawyers, doctors etc as well as even UME candidates among others.

Should there be a limit on wealth acquisition?

In my opinion, the answer is No. Wealth accumulation is just a game. It is the biggest game in town. There should be freedom and most people agree on this and part of freedom is to be able to pursue what you want that is not of harm to anyone. If it is a free market economy, then it will be wrong to say people should not be wealthier than a certain threshold.

However every worker must be made to join the effort or rather the game of wealth accumulation and that will be enough. If you have enough for yourself, then there will be no sense in complaining that someone has too much or more than enough. Making every citizen an investor-worker hybrid is the main intervention that is needed along with making high net worth people pay their fair share of taxes and this starts with them paying themselves taxable wages higher than anyone reporting to them. Also, when residual incomes like dividends reach a certain threshold then it can be taxed at the highest personal income tax rate or even higher. Those are the kind of interventions needed most and definitely not putting a ceiling on how high anybody's net worth should be. The use of money for the society is to create more value to help the society move ahead, therefore if you spend excessively on luxury, you should be taxed. Net worth after all is mostly in equity and
equity may theoretically not yield any income for years but also equity is the basis for controlling a company. If you tax equity or take it away from those owning it in the name of keeping them under a net worth threshold then you are taking it away to give to entities or individuals who may not have the wherewithal to run the company in question.

So let people accumulate whatever they want while operating under the agreed upon guidelines but others must join them because if there are no millions of people forming the market, nobody can get wealthy. The millions of people that make up the market must therefore join in the biggest game in town even if only passively and that is the right way to respond to the issue of some people getting too wealthy. If you can not beat them, then join them is the right response or way forward

gidgiddy:
Gowon did what he had to do? He created states without referendum? If Gowon actually cared about what Nigerians wanted he would have conducted elections at the earliest possible date and left office. It is for civilians to create states democratically, not for military officers to create them by decree.

It is supporting the wrong thing that made Nigeria the mess it is today. Gowon went on to violate Aburi agreement, create states, fight civil war, kill millions

Where is your Nigeria today?

Gowon created Plateau State. Ask Gowon if he can go to to places like Bassa, Bokkos, Riyom, Barkin Lardi and many LGA's areas of Plateau State where people are being massacred daily? Abi it was all about state creation?

You are saying what Colonel Ojukwu should have said in 1967 instead of going to war and I believe if he had said what you are now saying then General Gowon would have agreed or don't you think so? Words can do things that firearms would not be able to achieve. Why didn't Colonel Ojukwu ask for a referendum? Or a return to democracy?

gidgiddy:
Im happy Gowon lived long enough to see what the 'one Nigeria' he fought for had become today. Gowon cant sleep in his own local government in Plateau State today, the place has been overrun by banditry. Plateau State has become a killing field

Gowon went to Aburi, Ghana, reached an agreement with Ojukwu. Swore in front of the Press, and the then President of Ghana, General Joe Ankrah, that he would abide by what was agreed

Then Gowon returned to Nigeria and violated everything that was agreed at Aburi with Decree 14. Who can blame Ojukwu for then declaring Biafra even though it led to war?

Ojukwu tried to prevent war, he took the risk of going to Ghana where the Ankrah could have connived with Gowon and killed or arrested him. But he took the risk to prevent war. Aburi was the final straw that broke the camels back

Its very unfortunate that Gowon decided not abide with what was agreed

It has remained the story of Nigeria where political leaders promises only to blatantly disregard it just like Gowon did

General Gowon did what he had to do. Granting states to the minorities can't be faulted and it was supported by the majority of Nigerians especially those who were given the states. The owners of the new states were very happy and in actual fact that is what mattered most. The governor's of the new states were indigenes of those states and at a point General Gowon agreed to regional armies etc but Colonel Ojukwu refused. If you think it was worth it to go to war over state creation, that is your prerogative. After that, he had options, he could have secured the East and faced the direction he was being attacked from. The federals were running out of ammunition too not that it was easy for them and if Biafra maintained control over PH, Bonny and Calabar then it may have been possible for them to win the war. Pakistan seceded successfully from India so it was not something impossible. Biafra instead opened another warfront to the west despite knowing that the two regions to the west had announced they will not allow an invasion of Biafra from their land and this resulted into a marine invasion of Biafra by the 3 marine commando that set sail from Lagos and that was the main reason Biafra lost. Who will win or lose was not determined from the beginning. Creating states was the right move by General Gowon because you would have done the same in his shoes. If I were Colonel Ojukwu I would have restrained myself from trying to take Lagos

Opiletool:
Below is a comment from Celestial777 made in another similar thread.


"Ifa loba
Orisa losin
Eledumare nikan lo to gbe okan Le

Odu irete
Ifa condemn idol worshiping
Ori ni a ba bo..a ba fi Orisa sile...ijo
Ti ori ngbeni nibo ni Orisa wa


Let's now talk about Orisa
What is an Orisa? Orisa is someone great that has live on earth before.
Awon ti ori sa so to
That is why you get the term orisa
Is like using the name of baba Oyedepo to pray
Like God of Oyedepo
So Orisa is a medium to get to Eledumare Agotun
Like in Catholic each profession has its own patron saint.
E.g saint Peter patron of fishermen
Saint Thomas Aquinos patron of sailors
So Saint Ogun is Patron of blacksmith and welders

Eledumare only is to be worshipped....the means is now left with you.
I chose to go through Christ for a reason cos
The story of creation said Eledumare and His only son word (oro) were the only one present when the world was about to be created.
Eji ogbe say so
And my Bible said the same
2. Secondly it is only Jesus that knows what happens when we die ..i mean after life
The Prophet Mohammed s.a.w
Said he dont know what will happen to him at death but Sheikh Ali and the rest should always pray for him...
3. Ifa said the good Priest and all those that venerated there Ifa well well while on earth will have surplus to eat at imere
That is why when a babalawo want to give kudos to his late boss he will say ...ki awo ire ma je ni imere
4.Jesus said in my Father's house there are many mansion there if no be so i will not say so

Listen that never mean I condemn any religion cos I know there are predestined Muslim and predestined ifa priest as well.
Well to me i know they will make heaven..very sure cos they are predestined.
Someone said what about Orumila
Baba is just a witness when humans are choosing destiny
Eleri ipin.....means witness to Destiny"

There is nothing wrong in worshipping or greeting people whether dead or alive. It is just reverence and there is no human being that does not do it except you are not human. Don't be deceived that Jesus is worshipped and Mohammed is not. In what way exactly? No one is more worshipped than Mohammed. Don't be brainwashed.

Then orisa is just an exceptional person in Yoruba thought. They are people that added to civilization or advanced human civilization in any sector. It can be by inventing something or by being a very successful monarch and etc. There are several Ogun. The inventor of money was Ogun, the inventor of iron was Ogun, the inventor of markets was Ogun. Any inventor is actually an Ogun because Ogun is the path clearer and founder. Ogun was Onire, Alara, Akirun, Ajero and etc. Obatala is a benevolent elder more often male than female. Osanyin is magician and healer that uses natural things. Oya is a female energy associated with swift change. It is the female version of Ogun. Esu is analytical, deliberate and etc. He wants you to use your common sense and wants you to suffer if you don't. You need Esu to always make the right decisions. An Esu incarnate will not take nonsense from anybody. Esu will always write a perfect PhD dissertation and etc etc.

People who manifest these energies greatly become orisa and if you worship them as the Muslims do Mohammed it isn't wrong. Let the Muslims stop worshipping Mohammed before their opinion on how other people worship who they respect can be taken seriously

Conservarmy:
If dangote can do it, he can aswell. Pocket your excuses

He can as the most recent just built refinery cost 470 million dollars in Angola and it is 30,000 BPD but I guess no pipelines. However he did not have the vision and if he starts now, it will take years to finish. This is why Dangote must be commended. Merely building the refinery doubled Dangote's net worth but he will not be able to succeed unless they ban imports for him like they banned cement. He can't succeed in a free market if he owns the refinery ninety percent the way he owns the cement business simply because he is owing banks at high interests.

The companies in the cement sector in Nigeria too will have to change ownership structure if the ban on importation is lifted

Samantha125:
I don't see anyone getting lynched... Like I said, show me evidence of people getting lynched for being illegals.

People were beaten to death by security forces. Some people were shot to death by masked men. A taxi driver was killed in the same way. The ones done by security forces can't be excused but you are saying the other ones were random crimes that could have happened to anyone? You may be right but the reality is that there is xenophobia in South Africa that needs to be managed. Manage the people working in your economy or deport them without harming them.

Samantha125:
Show me evidence of people being lynched for being illegals?

The news is all over the internet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWwrTAuYt9I?si=3ZSGsYJt5uB1o07E

QuinQQ:
Who said anything about nukes?? He'd destroy Iran with conventional bombs as he previously threatened - and the Pope and other religious leaders strongly condemned the statement.
An armed robber won't suddenly stop being an armed robber. The internet is full of testimonies of people who changed their ways after they found religion

You can't destroy Iran with conventional bombs.you can just damage not wiping off the map as you originally inferred and people have been changing their ways before religion was invented, I am surprised you don't know this

QuinQQ:
There is now Christian and Moslem morality even in wars. What do you think prevents Trump from bombing Iran to stone age? In the old days he'd have done that long ago. Also, an armed robber could have been converted on his way to rob you without you ever being aware of it - that religion just saved you

The US could have nuked the USSR before the USSR acquired nukes but they didn't and now they will not nuke any country or is it now that many countries have nukes that they will use nukes in a war they initiated? President Trump has announced that there will not be the use of nukes and it is nothing to do with Christianity but to do with maintaining balance and peace on Earth.
People changing from their evil ways have existed since the beginning of time and it is not something introduced by religion. The only thing introduced to Earth by religion is aggression over God and nothing else

1nice:
You are talking nonsense.

History says south south region was part of old eastern region. Old eastern region which consist of the south east region and south south region was later declare Biafra by ojukwu at that time.


Watch your fellow Edo people celebrating Biafra below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuuEx9z0gBE&pp=ygUqRWRvIHBlb3BsZSBzYXkgZWRvIHN0YXRlIGlzIHBhcnQgb2YgQmlhZnJh

You are obviously a young man. SS is six states. Four were in the Eastern region while two formed the Midwest with capital at Benin as at 1967 when Biafra was declared However there are Igbo speaking people in the Midwest and I guess that is the source of your confusion

QuinQQ:
I humbly took your assumption to Google. See the answer below.

We know at least no one takes defeated people as slaves anymore or as sex slaves. There were also nothing like war crimes

In the pre Christian world, they fought only over territory but in the Christian world, they now fight over faith in addition to territory. We don't need more reasons to fight wars and even wars over territory are no longer common as it used to be while war over God continues

QuinQQ:
That's exactly why some people stayed with traditional religions - they found it more beneficial to them! Others did not abd stayed Christians or Muslims. The richest man in the world is agnostic/atheist who brags he has never prayed in his life. Then there are other billionares who attribute their success entirely to their faith and prayers. Will you tell them to abandon it because it causes wars (according to you)?

Anything that has been established to cause wars shouldn't be allowed in public. It should not even be encouraged in private

QuinQQ:
We pretend to believe in God yet we take God out of the equation of things. We have to believe that what God originally intended is what finally made it's way down to us despite all the tortuous routes.

People can be converted to religion by force, by intimidation, by indoctrination and by band wagon effect, BUT those things can't keep them converted. What keeps them converted is that it WORKED better than what they had before. And they've become convinced in their hearts of the authenticity and beneficiality of what they converted into (compared to what they had before)

Christianity and Islam trying to convert the whole world do not work better than traditional spiritualities that maintain their own lane and let others breathe! People who say God is a maniac burning idolators and unbelievers in hell are not the right guys. Tell me one thing they added to human civilization other than new reasons to fight wars and hate people? There is nothing they added more than negatives ie jihads and crusades

QuinQQ:
But have you ever considered that the end product we have today is how God always intended it to be - that these are the true words of God? It is like, say, you give someone a letter to deliver, but you know they'll rewrite it b4 they deliver it. So you write it in such a way that after their rewrite the final product will be exactly the letter you wanted them to deliver!

These bible books had been lying around for centuries before they were compiled into one volume. So at what point did they become the word of God when even the authors can not be clearly identified?

Then people are converted to religion by force, by intimidation, by indoctrination and by band wagon effect. Not by reason

Sonofgod1990:
The money is not much bro. Just that you don't have it

Commercial bank interest is over 25 percent in Nigeria. Fixed deposit rate is like 15 percent. One million dollars is 1.5 billion naira and if you fix it at 15 percent you will take home over 200 million naira every year. The interest on one million dollars for one year in Nigeria is more than enough to live on in Nigeria

jidesp:
Many people who learned Hausa found it easy. Ironically, there great local technicians in the North. They just need books. Not necessarily in English language. Hausa(physics etc). That would allow some groups in the north not to perceive pursuits of knowledge as BOKO haram.

Major population in the North Engage with their local languages. However, the Language itself isn’t developed

Yes any language is easy if you want to learn but the Yoruba have no reason to learn Hausa. They would rather be teaching another language in their schools that is more in use. The Yoruba surpass the Hausa in population in Nigeria

QuinQQ:
I have a question for you and I want an honest answer:
Despite all that, it is working for people. What do you have to say about that?

That doesn't mean a thing. Are people's idols not working for them?

The bible is not just one book but a collection of books written over thousands of years with most of the authours' identity unknown.

The old testament isn't written in the language of the characters it talks about. It was written thousands of years after their languages went extinct and there are no accounts in any other languages apart from those relatively new languages. Actually not very strange because in a thousand years time, all Yoruba history written may be in English alone

When being compiled, some books were removed because the compilers do not like the contents. The Catholic bible, the Ethiopian bible and probably some other Bibles have some books that do not exist in the European bible

The bible is full of contradictions. Just type contradictions in the bible inside google

Therefore read the Bible as it will give you insights into many things but never be so naive as to think it is the word of God because it was written by mere men and it is full of errors too

Samantha125:
If you're in the country illegally or committing illegal dealings, then it means you're a danger to society and whatever happens to you is none of my concern.

We all know that underworld dealings have their own consequences, you live by a gun, you die by one... If I ask you now to provide me with evidence of your legit and law abiding brothers who were unalived by the alleged "xenophobic attacks", would you do it?

It is an uncivilized and barbaric behavior to lynch people for being illegals in your country

Samantha125:
The apartheid regime only started in 1948.

Hausa could be recognised as an official and national language of Nigeria alongside English since the language makes up the majority.

The schools curriculum would also require alterations so that the learners/students can be eligible to do their native languages as home languages in their schools in accordance to their regions, English as a first additional language, and Hausa as a second additional language... Hausa learners/students could then be given an option to either do Yoruba or Igbo as their second additional language in their schools since they'd have been doing Hausa as their home language.

I once suggested this many years ago but I have changed my mind. There are more Hausa speakers in Nigeria than Yoruba speakers including L1 and L2 speakers but Yoruba people as an ethnic group surpass Hausa people in population in Nigeria. In west Africa, people speaking Yoruba are close to 100 million including L1 and L2. Such a language does not need to shift for any other language on its own land

I believe they were producing for export or are they selling that much meth in the country?

New odus of ifa May 20 2026.

Ose Irosun

When my neighbor prospers it will reflect on me and I will absorb it

This was the IFA cast for western Europe that rode on the industrial revolution breakthrough of their member England to world prominence

It was cast for the rest of the world that copied western Europe's industrial revolution and became prosperous.

They were advised to sacrifice
They listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
The prosperity of one person or one section of the world can radically bless the world


Odi Owonrin

The solution to any problem can be generated from any of God's creations

This was the IFA cast for Osanyin the commander of all natural elements
On the day he was coming from heaven to Earth
He was advised to sacrifice
He listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
Osanyin would use water to light fire while offering fire to quench a person's thirst
Anything created by God can be used for anything you want to use it for, you only need to know how to activate it. That is the philosophy of Osanyin.


Iwori Irosun (Iwori Ijesa)

The more people in a sailing boat, the more it rocks and the more jolly the journey

This was the IFA cast for the professional business founder whose work for the economy is to set up companies, run them profitably for some time and then sell the controlling stake at a profit to new investors

It was cast for Dr Lawrence Omole the founder of IBPlc the first Nigerian founded manufacturer to successfully list on the NSE and make the company a living thing with it's own life.

Otura Ogunda

We do not know exactly where our feet is taking our heads but we know God will make it be a better place

This was the ifa cast for the whole world whose lot is getting better as people do things and other things happen on their own

They were advised to sacrifice
They listened and complied

The King of England was forced to sign the Magna Carta and it had to be efficient British companies via the corporate model of doing business expanding the British empire instead of the crown. The crown in other countries never achieved much

The managers of the companies were put under pressure by shareholders seeking profit and it led to the industrial revolution

Religionists went on rampage all over the world causing all kinds of ills and disturbances and it led to peer reviewed spirituality.


Otura Irosun
If you dig deep, you will find treasures
If you travel far, you will get to lands where they serve their meals in cooking pots
All things are acceptable unless they are morally wrong

This was the ifa cast for the person who became irreligious as a result of reading very widely and thinking very deeply
He was advised to sacrifice
He listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
Real in-depth scholarship with breadth and width and deep reflection will always lead to the realization that God is not partisan and that he is definitely as reasonable as a kind hearted old man

Ofun Oyeku

A farmer feeding his cow as if he were a servant serving the master is only because the farmer wants to milk the cow

This was the IFA cast for the government that fixed minimum wage high so that it can be taxed

They were advised to sacrifice.
They listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
When the government wants the lowest paid worker to be well paid, it is to secure their own cut

Osa Otura

Water will never naturally flow up a hill

This was the IFA cast for the level headed child of God who worshipped other Gods just because violent Jihadists say other Gods must not be worshipped

It was cast for the sensible child of quarrelsome parents who was nice to relatives that were nice to him against the instructions of the parents

It was cast for the anarchist that will promptly break a law that they see as unfair


OSE Osa

The honour children give to their parents is automatic and it is wishful thinking to think it can easily be taken away.

This was the IFA cast for Other Gods on the day they were coming from heaven to Earth and the Muslims were saying only Allah must be worshipped

The Other Gods were advised to sacrifice.
They listened and complied
Their sacrifice reached Olodumare and was perfected
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
The children of the orisa continued to worship them and they did so even more intensely despite the antics of the Muslims

Otura OSA

Competitors often are the last to acknowledge our accomplishments

This was the IFA cast for President Bola Tinubu of Nigeria who would not be acknowledged as an expert by opposition despite solving the same problem in two different places

He modernized Lagos revenue profile by freeing the state from dependence on allocations when he was governor and he also modernized the revenue profile of the Nigerian federal government by ending the dependence on free oil money as President.

Without his inputs the two constituencies may have remained financially lame.

Oturupon Osa

When leaves have been wrapped around soap for long enough, it will become the same as the soap

This was the IFA cast for the Berom the indigenous people of Jos North in Nigeria on the day they were wondering what the status of the Jassawa should be. The Jassawa are the descendants of non indigenes, many of whom came from Niger Republic to work for the British at their mines during the colonial era.
They were advised to sacrifice
They listened and complied
The ancestors of the Jassawa left their old homes without looking back and their descendants today are part of the Berom because of that!. People who are not attached to any other place are part of where they are.


Ogbe Ogunda

Teteregun abeso woroko
A difa fun onile fuja ti o dooto

Won ni ko rubo
O gbebo nbe O rubo

Emi onile fuja ti o dooto
Mo kole Owo
EMI onile fuja ti o dooto
Mo kole Aya rere
EMI onile fuja ti o dooto
Mo kole omo rere
EMI onile fuja ti o dooto
Mo kole aiku baale oro

Translation

Teteregun with it's bountiful seeds
This was the IFA cast for Onile fuja (he who built castles in the air) that would become a reality.
He was advised to sacrifice
He listened and complied

I am Onile fuja the one that built castles in the air that would become a reality
I have built a castle of money

I am Onile fuja the one that built castles in the air that would become a reality
I have built a castle of a good wife

I am Onile fuja that built castles in the air that would become a reality
I have built a castle of children

I am Onile fuja the one that built castles in the air that would become a realty
I have built a castle of longevity and longevity is Lord over prosperity
ASE

Note

This is talking about the power of imagination as the beginning of creation. The alignment you need first is imagination which will later lead to articulation then later execution.

gidgiddy:
Yes, Gowon was totally right to go back on an agreement he made with Ojukwu, and Ojukwu was totally wrong not to accept that like a happy slave

The mentality of Nigerians is shocking

They all have to answer to the people they are working for because those people are not their slaves

gidgiddy:
The point here is that at Aburi, Gowon and Ojukwu agreed that there would be no tampering of the structural arrangement of Nigeria "during the period of Military rule" . Only for them to return to Nigeria, and three months later, Gowon enacted decree 14 that abolished all four Regions, and created 12 new states to replace them. It was a direct violation of the Aburi agreement and the final straw. It led to war

Nigerians including Easterners told Gowon to renege on the agreement. He can't determine such for the whole country

gidgiddy:
States are not supposed to be created in military rule. State creation needs dialogue, consensus and referendum. Thats why states should only be created during civilian rule. A military leader had no business drawing maps for people with military decree, and it was agreed at Aburi thats it should be so

Yes but if Colonel Ojukwu had used that argument, he would have had an upper hand and maybe civilian rule would have been restored for the purpose of state creation but the states would still have been created because the independence constitution allows it. Even if no civil rule, he could have insisted on a referendum and that would have been a set precedent. He did not do all that. He only insisted that no state must be created out of the Eastern region

Ready2speak:
Convenient excuse to hide from reality staring before our very eyes.
Is Ojukwu around to defend himself of the purported agreement with the French branch of the Rothschild banking family?

For those that knows the truth, it's obvious Gowon is lying. If his position where to be true, why did Biafra lose the war since same Rothschild also control of the British & American political/business establishment?

The French approached and wanted the oil wealth of Biafra before they could officially help. They demanded total control and a contract that will last for many years. The young patriotic officers refused such second slavery to another foreign power.

France finally helped in sabotaging Biafra.

Since Gowon wants to play the ostrich while the middle belt burns with Plateau in particular bearing the brunt of the attack, let him go ahead.
Afterall we all are witnesses to what is going on in Nigeria after Nigeria celebrated the defeat of Biafra. Hope Nigeria is now an el-dorado.
Folks, you be the judge.

Why did Biafra lose the war? Can Biafra win again after Bonny, Calabar and PH fell to the 3 Marine commando? Any other resistance after that was just to mark time. Biafra's fate was sealed when they drew the west and Midwest into the war and the 3 marine commando set sail for Calabar in response. When you have no industrial capacity and all or most of your ports had fallen to your adversaries, it will not matter much again who is helping you.

gidgiddy:
Gowon is an old man in his 90's, one of the last major players of the civil war still alive. Before Gowon joins his ancestors, let him answer one question:

Why did you go all the way to Aburi, Ghana, to reach an agreement with Ojukwu, that was meant to prevent war, only to come back to Nigeria and break the agreement with Decree 14, which then led to war?

Why should Ojukwu refuse the creation of a state that was being clamoured for? He could have asked for a referendum instead and be right but he had no right at all to unilaterally say No if the people wanted it. Other states were created in other parts of the country as well

Then a coup that did not succeed all over the country would still have inevitably ended in a civil war to conclude the coup unless a kind of truce was reached.

If he had agreed to the creation of states, the war may have been avoided

uKnighted:
I've been trying to figure out what the Itsekiri are because they speak a Yoruba type language but there's some people who say they have no association with the Yorubas.

Now, there are groups in genetic ancestry databases for "Urhobo", "Central Esan and Urhobo", "Urhobo and Itsekiri", and "Itsekiri" now: https://admixr.com/23gg

This post and replies are interesting as an outsider. Some African Americans, like me, are starting to see the specific "Urhobo and Itsekiri" tribe for the first time now in our results and trying to get the history down because these companies will report we have significant Nigerian ancestry, 30-50% on avg with specific tribes now. I've talked to a guy from Ondo state who's met many Itsekiri and said he can understand the Itsekiri because of his own dialect.

Does anyone know of the Olukumi people in Delta? If they may be connected to the indigenous Itsekiri before Ginuwa?

There are people who speak Yoruboid languages but don't identify with the Yoruba chief among them is the Igala in Kogi state and some groups in Eastern Nigeria. Igalas have ancient Ifes on their land. Up to four or so but their main King the Attah of Igala is not a member of the Yoruba dynasty. It is possible that some Onus in Igala land are descended from ancient Ife royal families but not the Attah. Itsekiri on their part have their leadership descended from that dynasty via Benin and Itsekiri would have been there before the establishment of Benin. They are according to them a mix of Ijebu, Ilaje and Igala The Olukumi in my opinion are from the old Benin city and are presently speaking the old language of Benin city but because the language they speak is not different from Owo's Yoruba dialect in Ondo state, many say they migrated from Owo but Owo and Benin spoke the same Yoruba dialect in the past. If Owo and Itsekiri are not exactly the same then Olukumi and Itsekiri too are not

Let other people too pen down their accounts. Kudos to General Gowon for putting his pen to paper.

Yes the war could have been won by Biafra because onlookers were following and they knew all that led to the war and would be careful to take sides

As for the Yoruba and the Midwest, they were pulled into the war when Biafra invaded their lands. They did not join the war. It was brought to them

AMINDA:
Well. That's the morally flexible individuals for you. They are promising every region and their dog the presidency now but will backstab them all as soon as their tin-god gets re-elected. They couldn't make Tinubu president so why should we believe they have what it takes to make any region president? The North made Tinubu president!

P.S: When they talk about Northcentral, they simply mean a Yoruba from Kwara.

Same applies to the Fulani that fought tooth and nail to have another Fulani as President after Buhari both in the APC and in the PDP So why accuse others of what you are guilty of? If Atiku wins, the Fulani have no plans to hand over to any other ethnic nationality after his term unless they fight for it as did Tinubu. If any ethnic nationality can do such in this Nigeria it is actually the Yoruba. So therefore support the breakup of Nigeria so that all groups can develop their lands without encumbrances while adding value to humanity.

taiwiki:
you guys can never mention anything about islam except lies. Prophet Muhammad s.a.w and Quran clearly mentioned every state after death and also mentioned his state after death and would be the first human to step into paradise. The prophet always state that he doesn't know the future except what God reveals.

Just like how many idol worshippers are deluded by worshipping men who walked earth, eat, drink and sleep that's how you guys worship Jesus who did the same. Even though Jesus clearly told you there is only one true God to be worshipped.

That's why your God's chosen people call you guys idol worshippers.

The most intensely worshipped human being is Mohammed but Muslims conveniently miss that fact. How in the world will anyone say Jesus, Buddha or any deity for that matter is worshipped on this Earth more than Mohammed? Mohammed to Muslims is who Allah have to take permission from before telling people anything. Allah is working for Mohammed. So he is not only a deity but more than a deity to Muslims