₦airaland Forum

bentenny:
The moment a state policing is controlled by the governor,everyone in that state will start screaming for it to be removed!
State policing doesn't imply that it must be controlled by the governor!
On a norm,no political office holders should be in charge of policing!

Yes the governor will control it for as long he or she is leader. What is wrong with that? The governor can be removed anytime and the policemen are civil servants. Apart from police any responsible person whose background has been checked should be able to bear arms. Local governments too should be able to have police. Private security firms that are licensed should freely bear arms so that people can hire them. What is wrong with all that?

googi:
Regional Police is a very good idea.

Those claiming the states in a region may not have anything in common in terms of culture and language. Nonsense.

What do Federal police have in common now?

In the first place, we have too many states created to satisfy looters of allocations.

Any of these states can go rogue and start another war. Regional Police is a moderating influence.

The Police Chiefs can be rotated among the states in a region on specified number of years

Yoruba may decide to never leave power again unless Nigeria breaks up. Would you still not like state police? Who do you think you are to be saying a state with millions of people and a governor should not have a well armed police force? Any tier of government should be able to have a police force. If you have a regional police do you have regional government that it will report to? You can have a university police because the university has an administration with leadership.

[quote author=MIKOLOWISKA post=138606514][/quote]Indonesia may have structured plantations more than Nigeria but I think if wild trees are counted Nigeria will have more.

Ego. Why would Iran be pursuing the acquisition of a weapon they will never be able to deploy? Ego. They want it because Israel has it. Why did Israel attack and kill hundreds over nukes when they know Iranian leaders will have to be insane to attack Israel with nuclear weapons even if they had it? Ego. You only start wars that you have a fair chance of winning.

People are just being killed over empty ego

Always analyze these data on a per Capita basis. The SW is almost three times the SE in population. You can't just use absolute numbers to rate the SE when it is by far the lowest in population

Ofodirinwa:
Yawn

How come Lagos and Kano are registering similar number of students for NECO? I don't think the report about out of school students is accurate

AntiChristian:
How many terrorism has it caused since it has been preached for over 1446 years?

People will enter prison if they commit crime - No terrorism!
People will not enter prison if they don't commit crime - No terrorism!

People will enter hell if they commit crimes and disbelief as defined by Islam! --Lawani Terrorism!
People will enter paradise if they embrace righteousness and belief as defined by Islam! --Lawani Terrorism!

You are really asking how many terrorism religion has caused? Before religion the only reason to fight war was control of territory

Open war! Very hilarious

Christlike01:
Until you understand that there is a clear, ocean-wide difference between the Benin royal stool and the Binis themselves, you will keep missing the point. Take it or leave it, the Benin royal stool is of Yoruba ancestry. This is not debatable — I will not argue about it with you or with anyone else.

If Ginuwa was ancestrally a Bini man, why is it that today his descendants — the Itsekiri — speak Yoruba and not the Bini language? As a Yoruba man from Lagos State, I clearly understood much of what Madam Tinubu said in her speech. As a Bini man, do you understand even a little of what she was saying? You need to reflect deeply on that.

It is on record that the Yoruba language was the official language spoken at the palace of the Oba of Benin at the time of the arrival of the Portuguese. Why would the Bini people be speaking Yoruba at the palace of their own king,don't you wonder? This may sound painful to you as a Bini man, but the truth remains that Benin royalty is of Yoruba descent.

Ìrẹ o!

The Benin capital in the fifteenth century was a city of fifty thousand people and it was a Yoruba city not different from Usen, Warri or Akure. They all spoke the same language. It was after the empire declined that Edo speaking people overwhelmed the capital from the suburbs and that would be in the nineteenth century

AntiChristian:
Matters of faith can be seen as lies!

But when the inhabitants of hell enter it then they wake up!

Na at the point of death you'll start seeing hell sef!

People shouldn't be allowed to brazenly make those outrageous religious claims in public because we all know that is the foundation of terrorism. Anybody caught making such claims or threatening people should be liable to pay a heavy fine according to their net worth. If we don't do that we are heading towards ruin as a human civilization

There is no regional government so regional police makes no sense. Any organisation be it a company, residential estate or school have the right to form a security unit and they have been doing so not to talk of a whole tier of government. OAU had a security unit when I was there in the 90s. The only problem is they are not adequately armed and that is the problem that needs to be solved. Any security outfit should be adequately armed so far they are licensed security outfits

AntiChristian:
I don't agree with that folly. Terrorism has already been defined for you. Yet you are here wasting words and time. When you get to the court you'll show us where the hell I threatened you with is domiciled? Has anyone ever seen it yet? It's simply folly suing based on abstract threat that can't be confirmed in reality.

The belief in hell and paradise are matters of faith. And that's the destination of every human and jinn created by Allah!

I am glad you agree religion is all lies but people believe the claims and commit all sorts of atrocities as a result. That can't be gainsaid. Or do you think people don't believe the lies?

AlphaTaikun:
For the benefit of readers who don't know these soecifics, I'll add more CLARITY to what @Freestuffs posted...

The parent ethnic group of Itsekiris is of Yoruba descent from Ijebu, Ilaje, and Ife. The other heritages migrated from Benin Kingdom through Prince Ginuwa who's father was Oba Olua of Benin and Ginuwa's mother was from Ile Ife (Ufe). She was the only one among Oba Olua's wives who was NOT born in Benin. Till date, the Itsekiri lineages of Ijebu descent who have been in that part of Delta State before Prince Ginuwa arrived in 1480 still maintain strong contacts with Ijebuland in Ogun State. Some migrants left Ugboland (Ilaje) in Ondo State more than 500 years ago to establish Ugborodo which is the oil and gas-rich area formerly known as Escravos.

It was the Ijebus (Itsekiris) led by Chief Lenuwa that Prince Ginuwa and 70 of his men who went on exile from Benin met at Ode Itsekiri in 1480. The Ijebus (Itsekiris) knew he was of royal lineage so he was welcomed in there community and hence made a ruler. Other Itsekiri communities have their own traditional rulers too known as Olarajas but the Olu is the paramount ruler among the Itsekiri though I read in past that some Itsekiri communities WANTED full independence.

The two Igala lineages in Itsekiriland migrated there from elsewhere centuries later and they would have felt comfortable settling down there because their spoken Igala language is Yoruboid just like Itsekiri. Even the Ooni of Ife and his royal representive affirmed the Igala presence in Itsekiriland just prior to the coronation of the current Olu (who was then the Omooba or Prince). However, Igala language is more mixed with Idoma in it. About 65% of Igala language is mutually intelligible with the rest of Yoruba language BUT Igala cannot be classified as a FULL dialect of Yoruba because Idoma language takes the rest of the percentage of words in Igala language. Igalas are ALSO made up of mixed ethnic ORIGINS as told by the late Attah Michael Ameh Oboni of Igalaland in a 2017 Sunday Punch newspaper interview which is still online. He talked about the migration along the River Benue of a group of people from Wukari (Taraba axis) who merged with a significant number of Yorubas and Edos near Idah, etc, to form Igala. There's NO doubt that Yorubas and Igalas are close or blood relatives ancestrally BUT that doesn't mean Igalas are Yoruba. Igala is simply of mixed ethnic heritage.

So, Itsekiri language is classified as a DISTINCT language but in reality, it's a dialect of Yoruba BECAUSE the parent ethnic group of Itsekiris is Yoruba with many Yoruba words in it like basket (apere) or the numbers one to ten for instance. The FIRST major oil wells in Itsekiriland are known as "Okan, Meji, Meta, Merin."

Yoruba, Edo, some Pidgin English and Portuguese words are found in Itsekiri language as of today according to linguists. It's the same with many Nigerian languages that are NOT monolithic but infused with some loan words from other languages.

Even Igala has been classified as just a Yoruba dialect by linguists. They say the difference is just dialectical. It is actually Itsekiri that some people say is merely a Yoruboid language but nearby Yoruba clans are able to understand them easily by up to eighty percent.

Edit

Chatgpt says Igala was wrongly classified as a Yoruba dialect by linguists but is now classified as a separate language

writeprof:
I like the title:
Utukpa Oritse - Bearer of the Light of God

In normal Yoruba it is Atupa orisa. The lamp of God

Revolva:
It's a yorubaoid language not a dialect ...it has mix of Yoruba igala and few Benin heritage that is how itsekiri was formed

It is more or less the same thing as nearby Yoruba dialects in Ondo and Ogun states

Gajagojo:
Go to chatgpt.com
Ask which countries have pursued similar policies as part of economy reform after economic crisis
What did they do
What was the outcome

Will the FG also regulate price? If you have only one customer then the person can dictate price. Also a local buyer that is serious can easily secure supply by buying at a premium. I think we pay more for cassava on average than international price. Any serious local user of any produce will not have any problem securing supply even from abroad, having it here is merely an advantage that should not be abused.
People are now asking for strange things. Some say the auto assembly sector should be 'protected' like the cement sector which will obviously lead to us paying double what peer nations pay for brand new cars.
Shea nut processing companies should be supported in other ways different from forcing people to sell to them. We can still have them here even without having any shea nut at all

mrvitalis:
What exactly has Tinubu done in Abuja please name 2

Last year non oil revenue was greater than oil revenue and that has not happened for maybe fifty years or almost. If that is the only achievement, I rank him higher than all Presidents and heads of state since the end of the civil war. This is what I have been campaigning for online since 2007

mrvitalis:
So are you really happy your people voted Buhari and Tinubu?

Igbos know Obi deputizing atiku would give them presidency easily but at what cost? We are not like you people... We want progress not power

I never supported any of them but I am happy that Tinubu is doing in Abuja what he did in Lagos which is wean Nigeria off dependence on oil and gas. That is the main problem with Nigeria and how Nigeria is different from neighbouring countries. I have been preaching this online for almost two decades. I am an onlooker who prefers Nigeria to break up. I will like to see if an Atiku Obi combination can dislodge the current government.
No government can be worse than Buhari's government who printed tens of trillions of naira then borrowed billions of dollars at high rate just to sell in the country to prop up naira value, He was selling dollars at half the free market value to his cronies

There should be no need to force trade. Why will farmers prefer to export rather than sell to locals?. This policy is giving an unnecessary advantage to some people.

Justnation:
You are typing this nonsense because tribalistic tinubu is in power.

Let me warn you after tinubu it will take the yoruba multiple decades to smell the presidency then your mouth will be shut up.

For your information, there is nothing special that tinubu or any yoruba did to assume power except betrayal.
Tinubu betrayed the south by aligning with the buhari group and the north to remove Goodluck Jonathan.
He also sold out his people by keeping quiet all through the buhari poor regime, even when the fulani herdsmen were murdering and destroying the south west including killing the daughter of a south west leader pa fasoranti. Such selfish servitude can never equate to political masterpiece, and the Igbos can never stoop so low for power.

The yoruba cried bitterly and lamented everywhere seeking sympathy over the Abiola June 12 issues, it was out of sympathy that the north allowed their trusted Man -Friday, General obasanjo to take the mantle of leadership already pencilled down for Dr Alex Ekwueme, a south Easterner.

Never fool yourself thinking that we don't know history.

In Nigeria politics the Igbos have been closer to power than the yorubas even with the civil war. Go and ask your father's or read history.

At some point in the past the yorubas were accusing the Igbos of always aligning with the north. We are going back to that era post tinubu.
'Hand shake across the niger' was a yoruba initiative to woo the Igbos and south south pretending to want power back to the south, now they have the power, they want the power for themselves alone insulting and abusing other Southerners claiming that they are political masters.
Betrayal of trust, bribery, and servitude are now political masterpiece, Very unfortunate.

All the bragging and stupid noises these small boys e'rats are making today because of 30k stipend and a laptop will soon end and turn to bitter lamentation.

PETER OBI is coming to power

Stop this talk about betrayal. Nobody is in a contract with anybody to keep supporting them. Any politician or member of the electorate is free to align as they wish. Going by population, Yoruba should not be less than thirty percent in any government, by output, it should be more and if they feel shortchanged, their leadership can align as they wish. That isn't betrayal.

Uchesis:
Spot on


That name doesn't sound like Yoruba to me

The name sounds like my latter end has become easy

Kewekubosineh:
Seeing is believing.

Go to Onitsha markets and see the number of traders who worth over N500million. There are silent millionaires there and don't make noise.

Nwa Boi capitalizes on the riches of their Oga to make their own.

Some Nwa Boi have good capital outlay to start their businesses.

That's Onitsha for you!

Traders have their net worth in real estate. Someone worth 500 million will have up to 15 units of three bedroom in that Onitsha or more. How many traders in the market can boast of that? They exist but they are just a handful.

You can't sign up to serve someone and be making money by the side without the person's knowledge. I believe that goes contrary to the Nwaboi contract

MaxInDHouse:
That is what applies to politics not faith.

When you BELIEVE in APC and your fellow traditionalist BELIEVE in ADC it will lead to quarrel, hatred, fighting and killings.

So it's not religion but politics that leads to unrest!

If everybody abandon nation building as is preached by the JW and are waiting for Jesus' second coming, the whole world today would be poverty stricken and ravaged with disease.

Virgo3:
we need more billion dollars investment but those foreigners only invest in natural resources and naira is extremely weak to make profits outside that oil venture and considering the volatile situation of naira we can't attract investments except those that wants to steal from us.
The only thing Nigeria can invest largely upon is supporting massive migration of skilled labour since it can't employ a quarter of them, support them to go to the west, china and india do all these and thru that they make billions of dollars. Europe build ther country on slave labour without paying, roads infrastructure white house almost all ther wealth was accumulated theft and the labour was free. Now to a 500km road construction is crazily costly but guess what slaves built it for free

Foreigners and locals alike will invest if government provide support. There is advantage of cheap labor especially outside Lagos. Only a few countries are as cheap as Nigeria now. I think Nigeria is the cheapest big market.
Nobody got anything free. What does UK have today that Japan, Germany or South Korea does not have? They got there by increasing their tax to GDP ratio and using the revenue to lift everybody up. If the UK had a low tax to GDP ratio today, they would be a backward country.

Virgo3:
Egypt can't provide electricity for 230 million people 24 hrs a day they will shrink, same as health as the likes. Nigeria has more oil output than Qatar but you can see the massive difference because they are only 3m people on that wealth.
To provide the quality of life enjoyed in SA in Nigeria requires a 500 billion dollars investment, we need 80 000 mega watts and that cost about 80 billion US dollars and health facility that accommodate at least 50 million Nigerians or infrastructure that can cater for all bro. More road networks more of everything than Egypt because we doubled ther population

With around 150 to 200 billion dollars total government revenue per annum in all tiers of government Nigerians will have the same quality of life as Europe including healthcare and the remaining challenge will be infrastructure for industrialization and with private and government investment, the infrastructure challenge can be solved. We can pay for electricity the same way we pay for telecommunications. We don't have up to 35 billion dollars total in government presently. Don't say the money is not there or the people are poor because those are just fallacies

tctrills:
If your evidence is that there are still Jewish communities in the Arab world, may I remind you that the Arab community in Israel is more than 50 times bigger so that's evidence of nothing. Again, there are less then 15,000 Jews in Iran so this is just a child's play compared to pre 1950 figure. Meanwhile the population of Arabs in Israel has almost doubled from the 1940s numbers so you don't have a point here.

Trust me, the people in Sudan will kill to be in the West Bank, the people of Nigeria will sell all they have to live in the West Bank. It's far safer than Nigeria There is no dignity in hunger.

Again if the Palestinians really love dignity, why have they refused the offer more than 7 times now

The point is that Jews are safe in Arab land and any Arab Jew that return there have nothing to fear. The idea that they have anything to fear is unfounded. The reality that Arab Jews prefer Israel is also understandable.
Palestinians say they want their land back while extremist Jews are trying to drive them off the remaining land they are still occupying. Why leave the Jews and blame only the Palestinians when everybody is just trying to get more?

Gaza is not an immigrant worker destination country that people do anything to enter. Countries that are far better off are not even that. Gaza before the destruction was only struggling

erad:
Nigeria should be well over 350m in population by now.

NIN is around 120 million and BVN is around 60 million

OGELEYA:
By population only nai dem dey see naija

Nor by growth

Nigeria also has the largest film industry, highest number of unicorns, second largest manufacturing output and etc etc

tctrills:
You keep giving false information. Who says they can't and wouldn't be stopped if they want to return? Do you have any evidence that the people who chased them in the first place now have a change of heart? If I were a jew, why should I believe you that nothing evil will happen to me if I return to Iran? Oga, provide evidence. Again, not up to 10% of Jews still have family in the Arab world. Please do the maths. If only 20,000 remain and 900,000 left. Please stop spreading falsehood.
Since the Arabs will gain from having Jews, why did they chase them away in the first place? Make it make sense.
Now, to be Palestinians, do you know that the Palestinians in the West Bank and in Gaza (before the war) live a much better live then you Africans? So when you say, "What is important now is for the Palestinians to live like human beings," what do you even mean?
Let me give you figures for pre-war Gaza.
lets compare Gaza before the war to Africa. Human Development Index and Life Expectancy.
HDI (pre-war)
• Gaza (approximate pre-2023 HDI): 0.716
Average HDI of Africa (most recent)
• Average HDI across African countries (approximate mid-range from recent UNDP listings): ~0.674
Life Expectancy (pre-war)
• Gaza life expectancy (prior to 2023 conflict): ~75.5 years
Life Expectancy Average Africa
• Average life expectancy in Africa (recent estimate): ~64.2 years

Electricity — Pre-war Gaza
• Average annual household electricity consumption (approximate Gaza, based on monthly data): ~265 kWh per household per month ≈ 3 180 kWh per year

Electricity — Africa average
• Average per capita electricity consumption for Africa (entire continent, per person) ≈ 518 kWh per year

Water consumption — Pre-war Gaza
• Average daily water consumption per person: ≈ 82.7 litres per day

Water consumption — Africa average
• Average household water use per person: ≈ 47 litres per day (estimated average across Africa)

Africans are the ones not living like humans, not Palestinians. These guys, without producing anything, live like kings when compared to us.

So, making the claim that people who have a far better life than you are not living like humans is rather shocking. Most Africans would be better off in pre-war Gaza.

Yes they won't be stopped and the evidence is that there are still Jewish communities in Arab countries not to talk of in Iran or what more evidence do you need?.

Arabs became hostile to Jews when Jews drove out Arabs from Palestine but there are still Jews in Arab countries up till now. There are Jews in Iran up till now and the Jewish community in Iran have never had issues in that country so it is your position not mine that does not make sense

When you are stateless in this modern era and your country is bombed out with over one hundred thousand killed because you fought for equality then that is living without dignity. Economic well being is not the same as dignity. You can be poor and have dignity.

tctrills:
Let me ask you, if I chase you out of my village, would you come back just because a total stranger on Nairaland told you it was safe to return, or would you return only after strong assurance from me that it was ok to return? Answer honestly.

The Arabs did not chase away the Jews because they had a significant population (even though they had a significant economic presence). But you claim to have some inside information and to know for certain that Jews are wanted back in Arab nations, and for that, you must show evidence.

The Jews would be foolish and suicidal to return to a place where they are hated and unwanted. And to be serious, that ship had sailed its not even needed. The Jews were able to take their refugees from all Arab nations and give them a great life; let the Arabs do the same for their Palestinian brothers.

Let's take Iraq as a case study to give you an Idea of what happened to the Jews because you clearly dont understand the scale

During the 1940s, the Jewish community in Iraq held a significant and disproportionately influential role in the country's economy, particularly in commerce, trade, and banking, but they did not "control" the nation's economy in a structural sense. While constituting a small percentage of the total population, Jews were heavily concentrated in urban centers like Baghdad and Basra, where they played a dominant role in import-export businesses, foreign currency exchange, and the banking sector.

Economic Position of Iraqi Jews in the 1940s
Commercial Dominance: In the lead-up to World War II and into the 1940s, it is estimated that more than half of Iraq's importers and exporters were Jewish.
Banking and Finance: Jews dominated the banking industry, with some of the first banks in Iraq established by them.
Trade Networks: Jewish merchants had extensive international trade contacts, particularly with India and Britain.
Modernization: The community was instrumental in the modernization of Iraq's economy during the late Ottoman and early British mandate periods.

Urban Concentration: Jews made up over 40% of the population in Baghdad in the early 20th century.
Education and Language: Due to modernization and, in some cases, the influence of the Alliance Israélite Universelle schools, many Jews were educated, proficient in foreign languages, and well-positioned for international trade.
Government Role: While economically powerful, Jews faced increasing political marginalization and anti-Semitic sentiment in the 1930s and 1940s, particularly after the rise of pro-Nazi sentiments

The economic prosperity and position of the Jewish community were sharply reversed following the 1941 Farhud (a violent pogrom) and, later, the establishment of Israel in 1948. The Iraqi government subsequently passed laws that froze or confiscated the assets of Jews, particularly those who were forced to flee or were stripped of their citizenship. By the early 1950s, the vast majority of Iraq's 135,000–150,000 Jews had been forced to leave, abandoning assets estimated at roughly $34 billion in modern value.

Now you want us to believe that the people of Iraq are ready to accept the Jews and give them back some of the choicest lands in Bagdad? You are also promising us that if the Jews return, no jew will be hurt? That all of a sudden, the Arabs now love the Jews? Oga, are you joking here?

Nobody is saying Arab Jews should return to Arab land. Not even the Palestinians who are realistic say that but this does not remove the fact they have ties to those countries and can't be stopped if they want to return. Many of them still have family there. Jews like any other people are better off in a state they control. If the Arabs did not exterminate them for thousands of years then they won't hurt them in this modern era.
Arabs have nothing to lose but gain if their Jews return. So quit the argument.
What is important now is for the Palestinians to live like human beings and for onlookers to support them to achieve this. The land will probably be occupied by a consortium of countries led by the US to be rebuilt and later granted independence after they have agreed to let bygones be bygones.

MaxInDHouse:
Do people fight about God?

Ọmọ it's obvious you love deceit like it's your only means to survive.

Get it straight nobody fights for God people fights for politics that's why all those you mentioned are also into hating, fighting and killing one another!🙂

It starts from asking people to believe outrageous and impossible things as a prerequisite for salvation and once you do that it will lead to violence somewhere down the line no matter how good originally your intention is. Only Christianity and Islam do that and they are the only ones that fight wars over God in form of jihads and crusades. There may be politics in it but it is also over God and that is not original human culture. Religion is not original human culture