₦airaland Forum

franchasng:
The only thing that will prove to the whole world who is who in Nigeria and who is taking advantage of others and who is dragging others backward is total division of Nigeria, possibly using the 6 geopolitical zones as template and with a referendum for communities wrongly placed in another geopolitical zone away from people they share same/similar culture and heritage with to decide which geopolitical zones they want to belong to.



In the absence of this, complete federalism can also be tried but first making sure all geopolitical zones have equal number of states. And it must be complete restructuring whereby every region controls their Police, resources and regional election.


Third suggestion is for Nigeria to emulate South Africa by having three or four active capital cities:


Abuja
Oyo state
Enugu state
Benue or Plateau state


President/Vice operate from Abuja

Senate President & Deputy operate from Enugu

Chief Justice of Nigeria & Supreme Court Judges operate from Oyo state


Chief of Defense Staff and other Military Chiefs operate from Benue or Plateau

So you think it is fair for SE with maybe 25 million people or less to have the same number of states, senators and reps as the SW with more than double that population and more than double the GDP? The only solution is to break up Nigeria

AndroBlaze:
I was waiting for a response like this.

As my people will say, when you are tired of reacting like a "reactor", you will read the article again S L O W L Y and then realise what was actually said.

The official claimed that Kano State had the most students that scored a credit concurrently in English and Maths, but not once did he state they had the highest success rate.

Simply put, if Bayelsa state sent only 1000 students to do NECO, and all those 1000 achieved credits, they would still come last by the man's limited measure ( I am certain he did it on purpose).

That's why if you look at his "success" chart, the states with the highest populations, Kano, Lagos and Oyo are top 3.

So my southern brother, no need to declare war yet, given his audience, it's clear he gave his figures that way to appease them.

Also, a lot of those Kano students will still be southerners anyway, so you can sheathe your sword

I am willing to bet that not up to ten percent or even five percent of Kano students are Southerners

Putinofrussia:
The number of students that passed in Lagos,Oyo are way above the students that passed in Anambra,Abia,Ebonyi.
By sheer number,all the SE states are no match for any state in the SW.

The numbers is a kind of informal census. It shows the population of states relative to each other in a way. It may not be totally accurate though

Putinofrussia:
The number of students that passed in Lagos,Oyo are way above the students that passed in Anambra,Abia,Ebonyi.
By sheer number,all the SE states are no match for any state in the SW.

But performance is not by sheer number. It is percentage that passed

BeautifulMind2:
Who did Yemi Oluwale Kale involved in his survey? He seat in his office and dishing out statistics, Osun Ogun Oyo and Ondo poverty ravaging state, Osun expecially will zero economy life that depends on crumbs from FG.

Only Oyo and Lagos have more bank branches and hotels than Osun in the SW. You can check online. The information is there. Rentech has the information Only Anambra surpasses Osun in the SE in number of bank branches. and hotels . It is safe to say Osun has a bigger economy than any state in the west apart from Lagos and Oyo and also is bigger than any state in the east apart from Anambra

What can be the real cause of killing innocent people at random?

When pension funds were established in Nigeria they were mandated to grow by at least five percent per annum

Now due to the value of the naira being eroded, people's life savings have been washed away. I think the biggest customer of the funds is the federal government of Nigeria and the loans they gave out are denominated in naira. These loans have now been devalued

Loans are affected by inflation but equity is not. It is when you are not doing equity that you seek high returns. When it is equity, the investment itself will grow and the fund will be shielded from inflation

What Nigerian pension funds need today is to shift from investments in the capital or loans market to equity. They will then become like the institutional investors in the USA

https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=54159

In a country where the ministry of internal affairs or home office fixes the minimum wage after calculating what is needed for survival by a person, there will be little relevance for a workers union. If the government always makes sure what is left after taxes are removed from the minimum wage is enough for survival, then workers unionization will not be very necessary
Nigeria has good laws but the enforcement is the problem. We have the contributory pension law for instance and other laws. If all employers are compelled by government to follow these laws then there will be little need for labor unions
Then labor unions are like political parties and some of them even have more financial muscle and better organization than the average political party in Nigeria. Because of this they can add to the quality of nation building going on in any country. People joining hands together have many positives.
Mega churches are also another avenue through which people join hands together. Joining hands together is not a bad thing on the overall

However labor unions should only be allowed to charge membership levies. They should not be allowed to tax production in any form. NURTW collecting money when passenger buses load and oil workers union collecting money when tankers load is illegal PAYE collection and it should cease. Unions should be okay with membership levies alone.

In conclusion if the state governments are properly monitoring corporations within their jurisdictions, there will be little need for labor unions but there is strength in numbers and unionism should not be discouraged.

The most important sector to invest in in Nigeria today is the steel sector. I wonder why no state government is looking in that direction. To invest and lose is more honorable than to not invest at all. There is more than ten billion dollars of revenue per annum to be picked up

Harddiskng:
This is rubbish.

If i own a company, I believe staff have a right to unionize. If i have nothing to hide, what am i afraid of.

In my opinion, Dangote is not a good company to work for. Yes my opinion. From what i have heard, Dangote’s pay is usually sub par compared to the industry’s pay.

However unions should only be restricted to levies from workers. They should not be allowed to charge things that are like income tax. Oil unions want to be charging when tankers load

If the Lagos state government makes sure they all pay PAYE and all have pension accounts and etc there will be little need for a union. However there is no big deal in workers paying union levies. It makes the union to have a voice. Money makes you have a voice

codemaniacs:
you guys information is wrong unless I am reading wrong on guugle..

( Nigeria ) - In 2024, overall Nigerian ports handled 103,336,863 metric tons of cargo..

( Benin Republic ) - The Port of Cotonou handled approximately 9.67 million tons of cargo in 2024

( England ) - In the year ending December 2024, major UK ports handled a total of 422.8 million tonnes of freight..

( Togo ) - Togo's Port of Lomé reported a total cargo throughput of 30.64 million metric tons in 2024

Lome is indeed the biggest now in west Africa. Container traffic is different from cargo. Cargo from Nigeria will be mainly oil. A lot of Nigeria containers does not arrive in Nigerian ports and that will explain why a UK port can have more container traffic than a Nigerian port.. Nigeria can't import less than the UK
https://africa-container-shipping.com/en/top-10-ports-africa-port-projects-in-west-africa/

Kewekubosineh:
Okay

Noted.

But a seaport in southeast will ease of business transactions. You don't need to go through Lagos or ibeto ports in Rivers State.

SE itself is not sitting on the coast. The river port in Onitsha is operational but seasonal because the water is not deep enough all the time.

Emeskhalifa:
My ogar I wonder o.
I see people buy Dangote cement, others buy lafarge or Bua every day here, no one is forced to buy that of Dangote. My question is if Dangote is Monopolistic as people claim all the time, I don't think these other cement producers will even be allowed to produce and sell across the country.

E come be like person no know the meaning of Monopoly again o

We can't say it is a monopoly but maybe we can call it a cartel. They borrow huge money at high interest and expect the govt to guarantee that market for them so they can repay their loans. Cement in China is like 65 dollars per tonne India is less Iran is 31 dollars per tonne but Nigeria is around 108 dollars despite that labor is much cheaper in Nigeria we also have the natural resources. Labour is cheaper in Nigeria than in Iran These big companies could have raised money in Nigeria. There are mutual funds in Nigeria that can raise the money.
We Can't call it a monopoly because you can build your own factory
The best way to run a company is to use equity instead of loans. Imagine big US companies using loans instead of equity

Dalohad:
God gave you Oil wealth that only about 15% of the countries in the world has, yet you want to asphyxiate Nigerians with more taxes.

The best example of how oil wealth should be used is Norway. They invest everything in a sovereign wealth fund now worth over 1.4 trillion dollars Norway has just five million people and their oil income is comparable to Nigeria of 200 million people

To be an efficient country with free education, universal healthcare and etc you have to pay half of your GDP as taxes. Norway is doing more than half

Dalohad:
At whose expenses? Is the business man not going to add the levies to his goods and make sure the common Nigerian buyer pays through his nose.

When you Agbadomudeens jump up to celebrate high generation of revenue by Govt. agencies do you really know what you doing?

You are invariably celebrating extortion, this is the reason prices of goods never come down whenever they go up.

As you celebrate this high revenue generation, do not forget to celebrate the attendant high cost of food, medicines, etc that comes with it.

Customs revenue should not be capitalized on. It should be more of wage tax, corporate tax, property tax and etc. You need a lot of tax revenue to lift any nation.

owobokiri:
Can you show us the WAEC or JAMB registrations that confirm 80% are from Lagos?

I'm waiting..
DON'T RUN!!!

I used to have a table that shows waec registration by states in a particular year but I can't find it again and the info is no longer online. However why do you think NIN registration in the SE will be 80 percent of Lagos if the total population is not thesame percentage? Everybody did NIN. Lagos might be up to 25 million now. Do you think the SE is more than eighty percent of twenty five million?

owobokiri:
Can you show us the WAEC or JAMB registrations that confirm 80% are from Lagos?

I'm waiting..
DON'T RUN!!!

This is a thread about NIN showing Lagos to be over 12 million and the SE over 10 million. I will find the table on waec registration soon

https://www.nairaland.com/8376120/list-igerias-nin-enrollment-across

owobokiri:
@ the bolded..
You got that from Bayo Onanugas propaganda class of mumbo-jumbo!

If NIN registration, waec registration and etc is eighty percent of Lagos what does that tell you? The whole SE is not more than eighty percent of Lagos in population. That is just the truth

Kewekubosineh:
So, you think southeast doesn't deserve seaport?

Southeast deserves seaport. Not Lagos or Ibeto. That's the only way to ease businesses in southeast.

Yes! Southeast deserves seaport! Not Lagos or Ibeto.

Lagos is not the busiest port in west Africa. Lome and Cotonou are far busier and their population is no where near Lagos.
Someone was saying yesterday that the busiest port city in the UK is a city of 30k people
There is already port in Onitsha but seasonal because the river is not dredged
Lagos does not have a monopoly of ports and port is not what drew population to the city. We can say the former status of capital drew population to the city

owobokiri:
Lol,
NIWA is an agency of the federal government, you remember?
Lol
You have never done any sort of reasonable business in the east. I have businesses over there for ages,.. but you want me to beleive you on issues related to businesses in the east!

How are we going to have any sort of "logical" discuss when you are desperate to impose a narrative that the east is empty, which is nothing but a big lie!?

Exorcise yourself of your ethnic de-mons, then maybe, you can see facts and datas for what they are; facts and datas..

The south east is like 80 percent of Lagos in population and that is ok if you consider that it is around the same size as Oyo state. Anambra is the most densely populated in Nigeria after Lagos. The SE as a zone is the most densely populated in Nigeria. It is doing ok as it is. It can't pull more than it's weight

Lagos is bigger today than the western region in the 1950s but what have they done with the huge igr? Nothing. Everything is done in secrecy. No one knows exactly how many are Lagos workers. The western region created Oodua group. What did Lagos create? Nothing. It is a big shame really. The revenue being collected is going down the drain. I used to think they have 500k workers but there is no reason to believe that anymore.

aribisala0:
Felixstowe is the busiest port in the UK . It does more than twice the container traffic of the whole of Nigeria

Fact check me


Now the population is about 30000. Many people in the UK have never heard of the town

Lome in Togo. One port does more container traffic than the whole of Nigeria
.
Its population at 2 million is nowhere near Lagos

Your assumption about population has no logical basis

Dangote imported 150000 containers for his refinery all via Lome

I am sure that Dangote is Not the only one bringing stuff via Lome
And maybe more than half of what passes through Lome comes to Nigeria

Ethiopia is landlocked. It has no port for its 100million plus people. Its economy outperforms ours currently


Everything you are saying about population and congestion is just programming. That is what you insist on believing without any basis

If there is congestion at a port it is down to Nigerian factor and corruption not location. You can have a single port servicing Nigeria in a town no one knows. Why is Lome so efficient at turning containers around? They are serious people. They do not appoint people based on federal character

Not only Lome even Cotonou have more traffic than Lagos

In Yoruba culture someone born before you married into the family ranks above you but they will still respect you if you are older. It is therefore two way. In Yoruba culture you can't call anybody that ranks above you by their names. In the past it used to be aliases

nairalanda1:
So, 30 trillion is enough for 240 million people.

Oga, either you are supporting tinubu, or you are just joking.

Tinubu is a bad leader because we should have a budget of 100 trillion or more...not just 30 trillion

Money can only come mainly from personal income tax now and the federal government is not in charge of that.

[quote author=Gerrard59 post=13688What if the employer does not pay a salary to himself or pays just the minimum wage?

That is tax avoidance rather than evasion.[/quote]Laws can be made to take care of all that. CEOs paying themselves one dollar per annum should be illegal

delkuf:
i dont think you are living in Nigeria. Because if you do, you will see how this squeezing from the poor Nigeria and living lavishly.

So all governors are living lavishly? Why can't Kano secure a revenue of 10 billion dollars per annum and use part of it to solve Nigeria's steel problem? That is just 500 dollars per head per annum. I live in Nigeria

delkuf:
am not talking about the private sector, am talking about the govt. What has tinubu be doing with all the billion he has been collecting from the subsidy removal and vat. He has been buying yacht and cars.

I am not here to defend Tinubu. I am not his supporter but to be an advanced country enjoying universal healthcare, free education and etc you must be ready to give up half of your GDP as taxes

jaxxy:
Jews have existed b4 roman and Greek empires. They can never be called Arabs. Arabs know their heritage from Ishmael.

Yes they have existed for long but can they be surrounded by Arabs and say they are not Arabs? Speaking the same language and etc? It was Greek and Rome that took them to Europe otherwise they would be no different from Syrians Palestinians and etc
Ishmael is not an ancestor of Arabs. Can you prove he ever left where he was born in Egypt or Palestine? He is a Torah character with no known descendants

advanceDNA:
Weda we have 20 billion, 600 billion dollars or 500 trillion... It's never for 220 million pple...

That's the excuse Nigerian leaders come up with.. using population to justify incompetence

Once they pay salary, do small infrastructure which is all an embezzlement scheme, the rest is for their pocket...
Fuel is gone.
Currency subsidy
No free education..
No free health care..
No benefit of the aged, unemployed, or disabled....nothing...
Nigerians enjoy very little in their common wealth

So quoting a budget for 220million pple is scam...

In the same Nigeria General Gowon led for nine years without owning a personal house. The western region had free education free health care, produce board, high minimum wage, first sovereign wealth fund on earth and etc.

delkuf:
you want Nigerian to join hand with a govt that will collect from the poor and live large on it. It is not hard for Nigerian to pay tax but the government should show transparency. Deal with corruption, then you can now talk of increasing tax.


Don't tell a ha join hands with people that will steal our commonwealth

It is a leadership problem. There is no voluntary tax payment anywhere. Lagos did not seek anybody's permission before weaning themselves off allocations. They collect over 40 billion naira every month. If I am a Governor no one can stop me from taking tax. I can't have millions of income earners in my state and be waiting cap in hand for allocations.

delkuf:
so the government cannot give us basic amenities. They can't give regular electricity, good roads and a better healthcare. And you want us to continue paying more and more tax.


Nigerian will get sense one day.

The private sector will have to be involved in solving power. To have 50000 MW like South Africa there will need to be an investment of up to 50 billion dollars and we are more than four times the population of South Africa. Therefore we need 200 billion dollars for the same level of power. Even more than and government budget is not more than thirty billion dollars. State governments have been given the go ahead to seek partners and solve the problem but they are taking baby steps. The market is there that will pay for the power but here we are. However people are solving power issues by going off grid. Off grid power now will be much more than grid power