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Nobody is forcing you to employ as a business owner but you must not pay any employee less than the minimum wage from which tax will be removed. Fixing the minimum wage is the most important function of government because it is a means of securing revenue for government when that wage is taxable. Without high revenue no nation can afford basic education for all and universal healthcare

Even if you are employing only one person you should pay the minimum wage. No business owner should be excused just because they are employing a low number of workers

Employ the number you can as an employer and sack them if they are not making profit for you but do not pay below minimum wage which should be high enough to bear tax and pension deductions.

Minimum wage is important because it is the only way of fighting poverty and when it is high it will trigger an increase in the GDP as people spend more leading to an increase in production

All wages should be at least minimum wage and able to bear tax and pension deductions

highchief1:
no normal civil servant that doesn’t have extra hustle can rent or build in Asaba.if u doubt the cost of land I mentioned find out from anyone staying in Asaba.Civil servants now stay in ibusa,illah,ogbolu which are neighbouring towns.asaba cost well well now

That is very serious but Asaba itself is small as internet says it has only 25 banks

What the government needs to do is to make sure nobody is employed without paying PAYE and being on the pension scheme. Nobody should be paid wages without those two things. At least if you work for a while you will have something saved as pension

Matrixliveng:
Good morning.  Here is today’s summary from TheMatrix Newspapers:

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In a message of hope to Nigerians, President Bola Tinubu on Wednesday assured that the worst period in the nation’s history is over. READ MORE

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I believe they have not been calculating Kano and the NW GDP well. It can't be much below the SW. GDP is to do with population when cost of living is the same. Kano is very rural though. 24 local governments have no banks at all which means they probably have no urban center

highchief1:
exactly,a 50/100 plot of land in that same Asaba goest for 40-90m in a liveable neighborhood.a bag of cement is at 10,200 in Asaba today.theres Nthg the landlords can do.blame the govt.

If a plot of land is going for 90 million that means civil servants can never build house or even rent yet civil servants are building houses

Lagos paid 50 million dollars for metroline and it was cancelled by General Buhari and the money went down the drain. 50 million dollars in 1984

The man is actually right. If you use Google to research the number of hotels banks and etc in Ekiti state and compare to other states you will find that he is right

CoronaVirusPro:
The likes of Ekiti, Abia, Osun and Ogun should not be called a state. They are villages.

They all should be governed by the FG or merged with other state.

All the states you mentioned have economic activities higher than many countries. A space where millions have income with many HNIs should not be described like that.
If a population of 500k want their own state there is no reason they should not be obliged. They have their own economy and want to manage it

This shows that if not for migration Oyo, Osun, Ogun, Anambra, Kogi and etc will have more population than Lagos, Rivers and etc. If not for migration Oyo will have the highest population in the country

Cromagnon:
No need
The produce higher order good s and services that earn 10x more than steel

Yes if they their whole GDP is from those hotels

No because oil is a tiny portion of our gdp

Where did you hear that


Taxes will never solve anything
It will just make some useless ppl rich and powerful

Do your research
It's the cause for most of it

How much how much

Wrong again
Stop saying what you don't know

Wrong again
Real estate is major part of economy and gdp
if not for govt interference america will wipe China out due to no minimum wage that caused artificial wage inflation

The higher order goods being produced by the west are shrinking by the day. They still exist though. If not for government protection of farmers and local industry in the west even food will be imported, table water will be imported because local industry will not be able to compete as wages are outrageous
Then Trinidad and Tobago is like the west because they are organized like the west not because western corporations have hotel chains there. They have in Nigeria too. They have high wages because rent is expensive simple. There is no country where the hospitality sector will be even twenty percent of the GDP. Hotels alone can't employ twenty percent of workers in any country. I believe oil in Nigeria will be a larger sector than hospitality in those countries.
In the USA for example there are many responsible people some with two jobs who are homeless. Drug addiction can contribute to it for some people but I don't agree to lump all homeless people together as drug addicts.

Why do you think taxes will not solve any problem when it is the only thing that facilitate civilization? All over the world even before the industrial era taxes have always been the only way.

You said the US is turning to wood for construction instead of steel. Didn't you say that?


In the west, it is normal for people earning minimum wage to use half of their wages on rent. What do you mean I should stop saying what I don't know? Do you even know what you are saying?

The only problem of Africa is the informal economy. If the whole economy is formalized with everyone paying tax then they will have money to be like Western Europe. Africa is not backward or less developed because of their skin color . The problem of western Europe and North America now is high rent which causes high wages that drives jobs away from their economy

Gboss247:
All the subsidies by paid US, India, Chinese government looks like a joke to you!

Do you realize the difference between 65 and 108 or between 31 and 108? So you need half of your revenue as subsidy in order to be competitive,? That is what the numbers say. I believe there are sharp practices even in India and China because if not for labor costs the USA will sell the same price as Iran

shortgun:
I think I now see where your confusion is coming from. There has never been any census conducted anywhere in the world including in Nigeria to determine the population of Yorubas or Igbos. What you people keep citing is the “language spoken at home” section of the 2011 Ireland census. That section simply recorded what language migrants spoke at their homes in Ireland.

An Igbo person who speaks English at home in Ireland will not be recorded under Igbo. A Hausa man who speaks Yoruba at home will be counted under Yoruba. Migrants from Benin Republic or Togo who speak Yoruba will also be recorded as Yoruba. This is why you cannot take that section and claim there are more Yorubas.The numbers only show which languages migrants happened to use abroad, not population sizes.

No census in Asia or West Africa has ever broken down Nigerians by tribe. Yet we all know Igbos dominate trade and settlement in Ghana, Equatorial Guinea, Côte d’Ivoire, Cameroon, Gabon even Malaysia and China. That’s visible presence. But even that can’t be used to make wild assumptions about Igbos being more than Yorubas.

Every serious demographic estimate from UN data to Nigerian projections puts both Yoruba Igbo populations in the same bracket roughly 42 to 50 million each. So stop recycling fairy tales. Until Nigeria conducts an ethnic census, your Yoruba double Igbo line remains propaganda and not fact. At best, both groups are roughly equal in size. Anything else is pure wishful thinking.

Don’t forget that it was the Northern leaders Ahmadu Bello and Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa alongside some South-West leaders like Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola and Chief Remi Fani-Kayode who opposed including ethnicity in Nigeria’s census.

When Festus Okotie-Eboh, the Finance Minister from Warri, suggested in 1962 that ethnicity should be included, he pushed for it to properly capture Nigeria’s ethnic composition — Igbo, Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba, and the many minority groups. Nnamdi Azikiwe and Eastern leaders supported the idea, believing it would show the Igbo’s true demographic spread across Nigeria. Chief Obafemi Awolowo also backed it, arguing that a genuine census must capture vital demographics like ethnicity, religion, and occupation for proper planning. He warned that omitting them was politically motivated to inflate numbers.

After enumeration, when it became clear the Igbo were gaining an upper hand in the population figures, accusations of inflated numbers, rigging, and bias started flying. The results were rejected and the 1962 census collapsed at the point of official announcement. It was cancelled and a fresh one was conducted in 1963 this time with no ethnicity. Since then Nigeria has deliberately avoided putting ethnicity in census questionnaires.

That is why today, nobody has an official ethnic population figure for Nigeria. Every Yoruba vs Igbo vs Hausa population you see is just beer parlor gossips

This is a statistics of people who put their state of origin in jamb forms. It is an informal census too
https://www.nairaland.com/8062915/2024-utme-application-statistics-states

Out of the 9800 HNIs acknowledged by Forbes in Nigeria Lagos alone has 4800 while Abuja has 800. No figure was given for any of the other big cities like Kano Ibadan PH and etc

It is not as if there is no money in other places but having just one high brow property in Lagos can put you in the club. The value of properties is also a major reason why a country like South Africa has more dollar millionaires than Nigeria

Lagos GDP is huge mainly because the city is expensive to live in. There are many things that a city or state like Kano consumes more than Lagos

When a city is expensive to live in the GDP will be high and the government revenue will also be potentially high but it does not mean the place is better than other places. It does not even mean the quality of life will be better.

The remainder of the dollar millionaires after 4800 in Lagos and 800 in Abuja are spread across the remaining states

WizardOfNG:
Can you listen to yourself? You know too well that only constitutional amendment can facilitate the inclusion of a secession clause in our constitution.

Yet you are asking ordinary Nigerians to "join the struggle" for an exercise in futility when you Igbos have not demanded same of your legislators who have the power and authority to agitate for the constitutional amendment that can deliver Biafra.

When, as confirmation of the insincerity and duplicity of Igbos, have we ever seen Igbo take a stand to insist they will recall Reps and Senators who cannot move and support a bill for the inclusion of a secession clause in our constitution?

Instead you people focus on gaslighting others while you free your leaders, with the official power to lead the realisation of Biafra, of responsibility or blame.

We know you lot and what drives/motivates you. Save the gaslighting for Nigerians who are totally illiterate or too emotional, despite being educated, to see what is obvious.

I am Yoruba. Most countries that divide don't use constitutional amendment to divide. If you want to divide just look for help and get it done. There maybe some people who don't want the country to divide but that does not mean those who want it shout be rebuked or that they are wrong. No matter how small their efforts they are doing the right thing

WizardOfNG:
Who is going to divide the Country for him and his fellow insincere co-travellers when secession is forbidden, and an act of treason, according to the Nigerian constitution with that situation only able to altered by constitutional amendment?

Yet Igbo legislators, who can move the motion for a change in our constitution to facilitate a secession clause, to show the Biafra agitation of Igbos is same as their own, refuse to do so and keep enjoying the salaries and remuneration being a Nigerian legislator delivers.

Are you not ashamed to speak in support of Igbos like Gidgiddy gaslighting Yorubas and others with their historical "they won't let us go" noise when it is obvious their legislative and political leader are the one's most guilty of not lifting a finger to aid their insincere Biafra agitation?

Is it just about lying to the world "they won't let us go" to gaslight Yorubas, who don't care whether Igbos leave or stay, whereas the world can see Igbo leaders, elite, business folks, industrialists and successful folks, like Cubana Chief Priest and Jowizaza etal, are not at all interested in Biafra?

Join the struggle. Do your bit. Both Yoruba and Igbo will do more for humanity as sovereign countries. What is Nigeria that is difficult to break up? Is it a super power?

Gboss247:
International prices? The prices of cement and other commodities speculated for profit making without seeing the product

India and China are selling for less than 65 dollars and Iran is selling at 31 dollars per tonne and labor is cheaper in Nigeria than in all those countries. Nigeria is like 108 dollars. US is like 100 dollars but labor is very expensive in the USA

WizardOfNG:
Go and sit down abeg. Catholic Church wataboutism explains how most Igbo names mentioned as victims were confirmed to be living in Ondo?

If most were living in Ondo instead of Owo it further shows they congregated there for a reason.
Igbo presence in the west is mainly in Lagos because of the huge population of Lagos. If you remove Lagos, the rest cancels out.
In the east are Yoruba billionaires, oil workers, artisans, taxi drivers and etc. In most Nigerian cities a large proportion of taxi and bus drivers are Yoruba. There is no border against migration and your idea that Yoruba are not in Igbo land in large numbers is totally wrong. The Yoruba leader in Anambra said there are over 500k in the state.
Again if you bomb a RCCG or C&S church in Onitsha Enugu or Owerri a large number of the victims will be Yoruba

WizardOfNG:
You keep repeating the rubbish above like a broken record without understanding you only expose that the shamelessness, lack of principle, covetous and greed that do not allow a man to do the right thing is on you people's side alone and never Yorubas.

If two people who "have no business being together"
find themselves in the same Country, for whatever reason, then what stops them staying away from each other when both have regions of origin they can simply remain in so as to avoid each other as upright and principled people would do?

Going by this simple notion, who appears honorable out of Yorubas and Igbos considering Yorubas largely stay away from Igbo land yet you Igbos have made Yorubas your second biggest home on earth outside the SE?

Yet you lot, enjoying successful lives in the SW you never offer other Nigerians in your native SE, daily demonize the Yorubas as "most tribalistic" whereas the thinking man knows you tell that lie, reality on ground discredit, because Yorubas will not allow you gain domination over them in their land as you desire more than anything in the world from the days and antics of Azikiwe etal.

I am just happy 2023 election happened because even the most Liberal of Yoruba eyes has been opened to the pervasive malevolence of you people against Yorubas you should be grateful to yet continue to badmouth because they won't lie down and let you use them as doormats in their own land.

He is correct that dividing the country is better. After division there will still be Igbos in the west and Yorubas in the East but competition will be more healthy and there will be no prospects of marginalization
Dividing the country can solve a lot of problem

WizardOfNG:
That's why I did not bother responding to him when he quoted me.

When you have large presence of Igbos in main cities of Yoruba land , like Ibadan, Abeokuta, Ijebu Ode, Sagamu, Ikorodu etal, you realize it is pointless responding to a people who are too unreasonable to respect face and reality in any discussion.

May the souls of those who died in the Church attack in Owo, Ondo state, continue to rest in peace yet I use that sad event to illustrate how these people lie without shame nor dignity.

Below is names of the victims of the appalling tragedy. For a people who love to claim they only go to Lagos, to skew the narrative and abet the deception they wish to get away with, observe the large number of Igbo names.

I remember, on this same Nairaland, how they even rushed prematurely to celebrate the deaths desperate to shade Yorubas that terrorism is overwhelming our lands as we are "cowards" who do not have IPOB-like protection. Yet when names of victim were made public they fell silent.

When a people are so naturally dishonest, to the extent of koro koro denial of factual reality, you begin to understand they are something else.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c9rgqv53p1po.amp

It is a Catholic church and Igbos are mainly Catholic. If you bomb RCCG in Enugu many of the dead will be Yoruba
Most Catholic churches in the SW have a high number of Igbo members
Owo can't be more than 500k people and Igbos in the city may not be up to 20k but unless there is a census you can't be sure
I was in Ife for a long time and I know that most Igbos attend the catholic church there

Cromagnon:
USA doesn't need steel
They build with wood
Steel cost x
America buys steel and produces 10x
9x added value
Why would they need to drag low value steel

Cos there a difference
We're we black run when we were colonized? Shebi are were majority
All those Caribbean countries hotels are run by white ppl oga
Unless you don't want to tell yourself the truth
Their just lucky that the white man likes their beaches otherwise they will be like and Haiti dem

So why don't south and east collect income tax?

Their GDP says they have more know-how than low labor places

No homeless cos we too Brooke to use drugs or form mental problem(real cause of Western homelessness)

China is not consuming all the steel they produce. They export and they control the international. market. The west can't compete because of labor cost.
So because some western companies control hotel chains in Trinidad and Tobago it means they control the country? Can we say they control Nigeria too because their companies control the oil sector?
I am hearing for the first time that skyscrapers can be built with wood though.
My whole point is that it is not by being black or white. If you join hands together with taxes you will get ahead as a nation.
Then the cause of homelessness is not drug addiction.. There are drug addicts everywhere. The cause is high cost of rent. Despite the high salaries in the west it is normal to use half of your income on rent. The real estate sector is sabotaging the rest of the economy

If not for government protection of local industry China can wipe out most sectors in western economies

shortgun:
I think I now see where your confusion is coming from. There has never been any census conducted anywhere in the world including in Nigeria to determine the population of Yorubas or Igbos. What you people keep citing is the “language spoken at home” section of the 2011 Ireland census. That section simply recorded what language migrants spoke at their homes in Ireland.

An Igbo person who speaks English at home in Ireland will not be recorded under Igbo. A Hausa man who speaks Yoruba at home will be counted under Yoruba. Migrants from Benin Republic or Togo who speak Yoruba will also be recorded as Yoruba. This is why you cannot take that section and claim there are more Yorubas.The numbers only show which languages migrants happened to use abroad, not population sizes.

No census in Asia or West Africa has ever broken down Nigerians by tribe. Yet we all know Igbos dominate trade and settlement in Ghana, Equatorial Guinea, Côte d’Ivoire, Cameroon, Gabon even Malaysia and China. That’s visible presence. But even that can’t be used to make wild assumptions about Igbos being more than Yorubas.

Every serious demographic estimate from UN data to Nigerian projections puts both Yoruba Igbo populations in the same bracket roughly 42 to 50 million each. So stop recycling fairy tales. Until Nigeria conducts an ethnic census, your Yoruba double Igbo line remains propaganda and not fact. At best, both groups are roughly equal in size. Anything else is pure wishful thinking.

Don’t forget that it was the Northern leaders Ahmadu Bello and Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa alongside some South-West leaders like Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola and Chief Remi Fani-Kayode who opposed including ethnicity in Nigeria’s census.

When Festus Okotie-Eboh, the Finance Minister from Warri, suggested in 1962 that ethnicity should be included, he pushed for it to properly capture Nigeria’s ethnic composition — Igbo, Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba, and the many minority groups. Nnamdi Azikiwe and Eastern leaders supported the idea, believing it would show the Igbo’s true demographic spread across Nigeria. Chief Obafemi Awolowo also backed it, arguing that a genuine census must capture vital demographics like ethnicity, religion, and occupation for proper planning. He warned that omitting them was politically motivated to inflate numbers.

After enumeration, when it became clear the Igbo were gaining an upper hand in the population figures, accusations of inflated numbers, rigging, and bias started flying. The results were rejected and the 1962 census collapsed at the point of official announcement. It was cancelled and a fresh one was conducted in 1963 this time with no ethnicity. Since then Nigeria has deliberately avoided putting ethnicity in census questionnaires.

That is why today, nobody has an official ethnic population figure for Nigeria. Every Yoruba vs Igbo vs Hausa population you see is just beer parlor gossips

Ok o if you say the language census does not matter I have nothing further to say. I don't know why they don't want to put ethnicity in the census. It changes nothing. It can not change political control by any stretch of the imagination. It is only your land you can control.
However alllllso know that anything counted Yoruba is always at least double Igbo. NYC records say Y Yoruba Profs are almost triple Igbo. Yoruba Nollywood sell more than Igbo.and many other stats like that but you will say it all does not count
What can't be denied however is that Yoruba land contains more than double the population of Igbo land. If you say it is filled with foreigners I will say same is true for Igbo land.
I don't know how you can have less than half the GDP of a nation and say you are equal

shortgun:
Your logic is all over the place. First of all, diaspora headcounts don’t prove Yorubas are more than Igbos anywhere. Migration flows depend on work networks, visa policies, colonial ties and personal decisions not on Nigeria’s actual demographics. By your reasoning, because Igbos dominate in China, Malaysia, Equatorial Guinea and huge swathes of West Africa, that means they must outnumber Yorubas in Nigeria.

Stop twisting voter registration and NIN numbers like they are ethnic census. INEC doesn’t register people by tribe and the fact that Lagos has more NIN than the South-East is simply because Lagos is a federal city pulling migrants from everywhere....Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Edo,Ijaw you name it. So quoting Lagos NIN as Yoruba numbers is either ignorance or mischief.

This claim that the South-West is ‘more than double’ the South-East in population is a blatant lie. Check the official figures; in 2023 INEC register shows South-West with about 17.9m voters and South-East with about 10.9m and we when we remove non Yorubas from that of Southwest....
So where are you getting the double? let alone ‘more than double’. Voter rolls are never equal to population, millions of Igbo live outside the South-East and register in other regions, especially Lagos, Abuja, Kano kaduna, Port Harcourt and other Non Igbo states.

Every credible demographic estimate puts Yoruba and Igbo populations in the same broad bracket of 42 to 50 million each. So stop packaging propaganda as arithmetic. Until Nigeria conducts a proper ethnic census, all your ‘double this, half that’ claims remain beer-parlour statistics, nothing more.

There is no census in any Asian or west African country that show Igbo as more than Yoruba in those places. Can you provide the link? Censuses are only available for North America and Europe as far as I know and all show Yoruba to be more. We all know the bulk of Nigerian immigration are to North America and Europe
The SW is not more cosmopolitan than the SS or NC and the SE too is cosmopolitan. The leader of Yoruba in Enugu learnt Hausa in Enugu. There are so many Hausas there for that to be possible. The first mayor of Enugu was Hausa
There are Yoruba in other places in Nigeria therefore the population on Yoruba land is an indication of Yoruba population. If Nigeria breaks up today will that not be the case? The GDP of Yoruba land in the SW alone is around three times the SE and the population is more than double. However Lagos GDP is disproportionately high because of the high cost of living
Yoruba land in SW NC and SS contain more than seventy million people. If there are non Yorubas there, are there not Yoruba in other places? The same applies to Igbo land in SE SS and NC which definitely does not have up to forty million people. How then can we assume the population to be equal? It is a wrong assumption
In the case of Hausa, Hausa speakers are more because many non Hausas speak it but real Hausa people are not likely to be more than the Yoruba in population


Nin which everyone does is a fair estimate of one population relative to another. Not everybody does even voter registration


Nin registration by state
https://books.openedition.org/ifra/919?lang=en

GDP of Nigeria by zone

https://x.com/thecableindex/status/1787491467990085795

Staff list of a department in ABU with a few Yoruba and no Igbo. Just one random link online
https://managementsciences.abu.edu.ng/staff/

shortgun:
Your so-called ‘facts’ collapse under scrutiny again. Quoting diaspora language surveys in the US or Ireland doesn’t prove Yorubas are more than Igbos in Nigeria. If such surveys were taken in China, Malaysia, South Africa, India or even in Equatorial Guinea, Igbos would outnumber Yorubas 20 to 1. These surveys only show who migrated where and not actual population size.

And this nonsense about Yoruba being the second largest group in the North after Hausa is pure fiction. No census or credible demographic study backs that up. What is generally accepted though, is that almost all Northerners have at least encountered an Igbo person their lifetime.

Also, the South-West being larger than the South-East in land mass doesn’t mean Yorubas outnumber Igbos. Niger State alone is nearly the size of the entire South-West does that mean the Nupe people of Niger State are more than the Yorubas by population?

Every demographic estimate puts Yoruba and Igbo populations in the same bracket — roughly 42 to 50 million each. So stop dressing up village anecdotes and diaspora quirks as statistics. Until there’s an official census with ethnic breakdowns your sweeping claims remain propaganda and not facts.

If Yoruba are almost double Igbo in population in the USA there is no reason to doubt it will be the same way in a country like South Africa which is the foremost immigrant worker destination in Africa. However it is expected that you will claim 20 to 1 in favor of Igbos until an actual census is taken

Are you arguing that the SW is not more than double the SE in population? I am not talking about size of any land now but the SW is more than double the SE in population. Registered voters in SE is like ten percent of national total while SW is like 23 percent. Over 12 million registered NIN in Lagos alone while the SE is just over 10 million.

Where are the Igbos living to make them more than around half of Yoruba population? If they are more than half it will just be by a little.
If Yoruba are not the second largest group as indigenes in the North who then is?
This is a paper about Yoruba in the. North generally
https://books.openedition.org/ifra/919?lang=en

shortgun:
Abeg stop embarrassing yourself. Quoting your small village in Osun as evidence of national demographics is laughable. Dry-season Hausa farmers in your backyard don’t translate into national population data. Nigeria’s statistical agencies and the last national census releases did not provide any official ethnic-breakdown.

Ethnicity counts are politically sensitive and have never been published as an official dataset. Every official estimate shows Yorubas and Igbos as nearly equal in Nigeria and Igbos clearly dominate in different parts of Nigeria and the diaspora worldwide. That’s why in Europe, America and Asia you meet Igbos in droves running businesses and excelling professionally. Your Northern university claim is pure fiction go and look at the staff and student rosters in the North, you’ll see Igbos everywhere. Facts are facts, your village gossip isn’t a census, it’s just noise

I just used my village as a real life example of why your statement is wrong
Thern when a census of languages spoken at home was taken in the US Yoruba was almost double Igbo, in Ireland it was almost triple. Why do you think it will be any different in Jos Kano or Kaduna?. It is normal for Yoruba to outnumber Igbos in the North because even as indigenes Yoruba are the second largest group in the North after Hausa
The total number of Yoruba in Nigeria may be at least double of Igbo population. The SW is more than double the SE in population. These are facts so it is erroneous to say the Igbo population will be automatically more than the Yoruba population in any non Igbo city

https://www.nairaland.com/7934178/top-five-west-african-languages/3

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerians_in_Ireland

Gboss247:
Crashes the price when the government you voted into power is devaluing the naira

So the value of the naira is why cement in Nigeria is almost double international price even when labour in Nigeria is the cheapest?

WizardOfNG:
Lol. Well-said bro but let it not be said I am not a generous man. This is why I erred on the kpata kpata uppermost figure of 400k, when I know it is likely under 100k, to shame them considering they are no less than 8 million in the SW meaning Yoruba land is their second most populous home in the world aside their native SE.

Yet they continue to lie to the world ungraciously we "hate" them, are demolishing their properties, are "envious" of them, "plotting evil" for them and are their "real and biggest enemies in the world" ( check their comments here) simply because we do not allow them dominate our socio-economic reality in our own ancestral land.

Do you know the meaning of 8 million? That is more than the population of Ibadan Ogbomosho and Ilorin put together. What job is 8 million Igbos doing in Yoruba land? Outside Lagos Igbos are probably not up to 500k in Yoruba land. Then just liker there are jobs dominated by Igbos here Yorubas also dominate some jobs in the East. Therefore Yorubas are numerous in the East. They are only quiet. Do you know the number of Yoruba women married in the east? Civil servants and etc?

kokoA:
How much is BUA and others selling cement? If Dangote was the problem then why are his competitors not selling cheaper or they don't like money to like Ameachi?

All of them are using high interest loans to operate. Check their ownership structure. Lafarge might be able to crash the price but they also have to fear inflation as they are not local investors. The only way cement price can come down to international price is if they sell those loans to local investors or if local investors set up new plants with equity instead of loans

The currency is really irrelevant though. Most breweries in the country import in forex and sell in naira. Steel mills import in forex and sell in naira but when nnpc have oil for the refinery they should sell in naira as before

shortgun:
Apart from the Igbos, which other tribe makes up the largest population after the indigenes? In almost every state in Nigeria, the Igbos are always the dominant non-indigenous group.

That is not true. In my village of Ere Ijesa in Osun Hausa arrr more than ten times the Igbo population because they come for dry season farming. In Yoruba land generally unless there is a census you can't know who is more between Hausas and Igbos

All cities there there were census in Europe and North America Yoruba are always more than Igbos sometimes more than double. If Europe is like that and North America why not Northern Nigeria? Then it is a known fact that Yoruba outnumber Igbos in any Northern university both as staff and students. Your assumption is not correct

AlwaysPositive:
If this post upsets you, it likely says more about you than about the message. The whole point of my post is simple: we shouldn’t give room or attention to tribal bigotry. There’s no reason to be offended by that. Unless there’s something you’re not saying out loud.

It is just self preservation. It applies to all groups. All groups want to preserve themselves and they want people to respect their boundaries.

OredoPikin:
So 2morow now a tribe will come up and start claiming the development of Abuja when 100% of what is there is our south south oil money.
U guys really want war in this country.
Like i always say. Lagos and Abuja will be a country of their own or Nigeria will never divide cos we will never allow u all to use our oil money after polluting our own land to develop another place and u will now come and say we should go our own.
The only way division will work in this country, East will go with their 5 states, west will go with their 5 states, Lagos will be a standalone country

There are traditional kings in Lagos who own the land. Who are you to tell them what to do with their land? And what makes you think Yoruba will fragment themselves into many tiny nations when some nations are over one billion in population?
Then when Nigeria breaks up Gwari and others own their land in Abuja. They will do with it whatever they want. They have Kings and leaders