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MrTuthakhamun:
Ekiti needs to be loose it statehood and lumped back with Ondo, along with several useless states that don’t contribute anything to the country

Ekiti has more population than many sovereign states

The root cause of all this is nomadic cattle rearing. Fulani have to adapt to modern methods of animal husbandry

Happy birthday to President Putin. Many more years in excellent health and prosperity

Is this more important than investing in the steel sector?

erniok:
Now you do not need to tell lies. Mohammed never believed in virgin birth. He only believed christ was a prophet and that was just a scratch on the surface as the Lord was more than than.

You problem stems from your belief holding you down that christianity is a religion and therefore is part of the problem.

Are you a bible student to start with?

Go and study more. Muslims believe in the virgin birth and it proves Mohammed was converted by Christians. Islam and Christianity are now problems but it started with Christianity

[quote sourw of c=erniok post=137042847]Cor4 ton, y bristianity is not religion although there are elements of religion in it.[/quote]There are only two religions and that is Christianity and Islam. Others are traditional spiritualities that are as primordial to humanity as language. Even Islam is not more than a form of Christianity. Mohammed believed Jesus was a prophet and he believed in the virgin birth. He was therefore initially converted by Christians. Christianity is the source of the problem

Mrexcell:
You not getting my point I never said been poor is a sin in any way that type of teaching is totally wrong because lazarus died as a very poor man and still made it to heaven. What am saying is why remain poor on earth when you are serving the same God that created everything including riches is it not because of ur ignorance and lack of faith?

In any country if you have not established something that is employing many people then you are relatively poor no matter your income. All nations are trying to manage their economies for their poor people to be able to afford more. Why blame anybody for being poor?

DolapoX:
You are totally getting it wrong

He’s talking about those who don’t have any source of income. Those who just depend on the provisions made by God, praying without working

If you don't have any source of income you can beg and if you perchance steal what to eat do you really think that should be considered a sin?
No human being will die of hunger where other human beings exist even if there is no government. Only that government makes it easier.
On the overall poverty does not reduce your character and that is what should be emphasized. There are many criminal rich folks and having no income does not automatically mean you will become a criminal

erniok:
I agree that religion is a cancer and that's what christianity offers, the cure.

The early Christians had everything in one accord. They looked out for each other's welfare. No one was teaching prosperity, they taught christ.

Christianity is the first religion. Before Christianity all cultures minded their own business an there was nobody saying there are wrong ways to worship God.

The world needs to expunge religion and reset human culture

The economic space should be saturated with investment companies owned by shareholders, institutional investors and tiers of government. All workers should be mandated to save in pension funds and these pension funds should invest in the economy to secure a high growth rate. All governments should allocate a part of their revenue to investment.
If you are a state, local or national government ensure no big company is operating in your state without your investment company or hedge fund having a stake in it.
If this is not done only a few wise people will take over the economy and this is not good for the health of the economy

It is not determined by poverty. Many people are poor but don't commit crimes. They manage. What is important is to have a source of income as a human being and many who don't have do not commit crimes. They just beg. Being rich can't improve your character

Nigerian population was less than sixty million in the 1950s but now over 220 million. Countries like Great Britain and Germany have not changed much. No money is spent on healthcare in Nigeria. What is more important than living long? A government with no universal healthcare has not started

tensazangetsu20:
Education isn’t free here especially university education. I have mentioned on this thread many times that studying in Chile is expensive as for that list I will take it with a pinch of salt. It says Chileans lack access to basic services. Like I don enter village for Chile. Village here and a village has access to everythinuug like everything. I have travelled and the only countries I will rank above Chile are the USA and Switzerland. What I have achieved in Chile under 3 years as a student I will need 10 to 20 years in Europe as a permanent resident and more than one million years in any African country.

You are a highly skilled person and you will be well paid in any country. In the west you will certainly be using a brand new car while in Nigeria you will at least own your own home fully in an average city. All are achievements
The western world is better for the average worker because they pay tax and have free education and universal healthcare as a result. If you are an above average income earner it can vary. There are thousands of foreigners working in Nigeria too.

I think the main problem in the trade fair is that General Abacha gave the land to new people without consulting the original land owners. If government acquire land in Ijesa and then give it to Ibadan indigenes there will be issues as the land owners will not agree. Whereas if the land was sold by the indigenes themselves there would be no problems.

CoronaVirusPro:
Where do you stand exactly. Cos you now taking sides with Lesbians and not gays.

So you telling me what makes a woman a Lesbian is different from what makes a man gay?

Better you start accepting this people. They have been on Earth as long as straight humans. Nature will keep churning them out.

I have no problem with lesbians but gays are scary. However both should not be promoted. It should be illegal to promote them. Let them do it in hiding as it has always been. I believe the tendency is in everybody and if promoted it can spread and become a problem

CoronaVirusPro:
How has the world population been coping since the existence of mankind? Oh! You think these kinds are new to Earth? They only have rights and why they coming out in droves. It affects nothing. Nature is perfect and balances everything. Why you always see that they get companions, just like straights do.

You mentioned how kids perceive the role of a woman. Does seeing a married LGBTQ couples interest you or lures you to become one?

You have to be neutral and observe this kinds. They are marvels. Do you think getting an erection towards your own gender is by decision? Try looking at a naked male picture and see if you can.

No one can make you gay if you not wired that way. I have observed and marveled at the uniqueness of these kind and come to agreement that they special.

Look beyond how disgusting it might look to you and start being critical about how comfortable and happy they happen to be being that kind. You cannot learn or fake how to be gay or a Lesbian.

The occurrence can increase in a society if the practice is accepted as a norm and supported by government. Lesbian relationship is relatively harmless but it is the male type that is more dangerous because of the anal sex. If supported by government more children will definitely copy it and that should be avoided. It is a known fact that many people become gay as a result of going to prison because it is somehow common in prison
It should not be criminalized but it should also not be promoted. It should be a criminal offense to promote it.
If promoted we can reach a state where you as a man will have to fear being raped by random men and that is scary.

You can't have millions of people earning income in a state and say the state is not viable. The state could have been a country on its own. There is no state that is not viable. Leadership is the problem

No matter how small money should be set aside for an investment company as well

Cromagnon:
name 1 which country are you talking about let's discuss what's your point again name them raise tax on broke ppl? It is a privilege to watch your mind at work name one good black community where all the youth are not trying to get out no it's caused by irresponsible citizens that can't keep a job explain
How do you root out informal sector without tyranny and dictatorship and how is that good and not evil slave behavior that must be resisted at all costs what is the table
Slavery? so you like to steal from the productive and give to the Dino dem and in your mind you've made sense? mention 5 good things American govt has done which jobs left they have lowest unemployment
Do you not see how many boats try to enter the west looking for any job companies invest in the west
Look at the exchanges
Total number of companies
Now compare it with black or eastern countries

You go school
Act like it

In your opinion if a country is not a high income country then it is a badly run country and therefore all African countries are badly run with bad leaders.
In Ethiopia a specialist doctor is paid 150 dollars per month. By how much is a specialist doctor being paid over 10k dollars per month better? Not by much. Specialist doctors are not poor in any country
Most African countries have good leadership. They have leaders who have good vision for the country and their cities are beautiful cities but wages are low because living expenses are low and this is an advantage and not a disadvantage
Most people in any country are broke. Not peculiar to Africa but if you join hands together via taxes you will be able to solve more problems for the majority. In the west it takes up to half of the GDP as taxes to do that. Universal healthcare and free basic education is always expensive. Not to talk of other things

African countries are doing great and they all have thousands of westerners working in them. There is nothing like earning money in the west and living in Africa. Many people are getting wise to that.

Again having high incomes caused by high living expenses is not an advantage for any country or can you tell me why it is an advantage?
A country having 2000 dollars per annum per Capita income does not mean the country is bad. It means living expenses are not high and that is an advantage or what do you have against the average African country more than their low income level?
Don't deceive yourself that the GDP of western countries are as high as quoted because they are not. It is less than ten percent of what is quoted most probably. Production for production. China too is not as high as what is quoted because living expenses is also rising there.
Then people in low income countries will always try to cross to high income countries when they hear of the high wages and also there is safety net in those countries because of taxes but in reality the struggle is everywhere
Again your notion that bad governance correlates with dark skin is not correct and you should stop spreading it. The majority of leaders in Africa are doing well for their countries and people. Same is true for the Asian and Caribbean countries whose income levels are low. The Caribbean nations with high income have high income because they are organized like the west. Despite that goods produced in the west are too expensive the low income countries still manage to buy and keep their cities thriving.
It is like if you copy the west's organization with very planned cities and etc you will become entangled in the real estate mess in the long run because there are no highly organized nations where everyone is paying tax that has a low per capita income yet to have a low living expenses is a superpower.
African counties are doing well or why exactly do you think they are not doing well? The low per capita income that they have is an advantage . Why will you say Ghana, Benin republic, Cote D'Ivoire Uganda, Rwanda, Kenya etc are not doing well?
Low income countries have succeeded in keeping living expenses low while high income countries have succeeded more in the joining of hands together via taxes to solve problems
Please disabuse your mind from the notion that bad governance correlates with dark skin color.

Then the US is a welfare state. The only thing missing is universal healthcare. There are many things US taxes do for the US public which could not have been done without taxation. It is wrong to infer that taxes are not doing anything for the US citizens

Some sovereign states are not more than 500k. How then can any one say the average Nigerian state with more than three million people is not viable? One state can be twenty million while another is just 100k. That is how it should be. States should be given on demand but they should not by any means be deemed equal. The revenue you generate as a state should determine your representation at the center because revenue is indicative of population.

There is nothing wrong if a state is just 100k people because people may just want to control their lives and destiny. There is nothing wrong too if a state is twenty million people. Once you have a state it is up to the owners to make it work. There is no reason to say Nigeria can not afford thirty six states when the states contain enough people to even be sovereign nations with billions of dollars in GDP

The states created by the military was not well done. That is one. People deserve to align as they wish.
How can you have states in Nigeria and an ancient Kingdom like Bariba does not have a state? That is rubbish. The Nupe have no state and etc. These are people who have been nations for thousands of years. They have no platform on which to develop their land

States don't have to be equal like same number of senators and etc and they should not be equal. but autonomy should be granted on demand because it will create the right atmosphere for competition

Why not ask local companies operating in the sector to write proposals for investment?
Many experts have pointed out that Ajaokuta will not work and if it produces steel the steel will be too expensive

By number of hotels and banks, the eastern cities have surpassed all SW cities except Lagos and Ibadan. Onitsha Aba, Owerri and Enugu have over 120 banks each but Ibadan has over 200. Akure is the western city that has over 100 banks. Abeokuta has over 70. However some reports say seventy percent of banks inside markets in the east are not real banks but cash centers
Ilesa, Oyo, Ogbomosho, Ife have almost one hundred hotels each and less than fifty banks each. Osogbo has over 60 banks. However Osun has a whole have many urban centers spread across the state and ends up having more banks and hotels than any SE state except Anambra.i
In Nigeria Lagos have the highest number of hotels followed by Oyo state which has 1033 hotels. Anambra has 749 hotels while Osun has 697. Data from Rentech.com.

By sheer number of urban centers the SW will surpass the SE. By number of people living in urban centers it will also be the same thing. Yoruba traditionally live in urban centers. The urban centers in the east are new hence the fine buildings Yorubas are building new houses too but in the suburbs.

smasher1:
The contract bank staff have this.

Once you are paid above the minimum wage and you have pension then you continue working until you have a better offer, are promoted and etc. In the UK most people are not paid much higher than the minimum wage. If minimum wage not high enough or not enforced that is the fault of government

Cromagnon:
Meh...debatable
Their GDP per capita stays up
others are stuck at middle income cos socialism doesn't promote innovation
They can only copy after america had taken the largest chunk of value

I think it's blown out of proportibbon and the world will soon find out that farm jobs can be moved abroad while supply lines strengthened to ensure food securityj

They will simply colonized Mexico or Canada as their 51st state to produce food.
It's not like the Mexicans can eat it all
They have to sell it to the consumer otherwise it's wasted production that they canunot afford
American farmers will just move abroad like South African and Zimbab wean farmers and feed the homeland from foreign cheap labour soil

What % does hospitality bring into Nigeria
Even oil is less than 10%
In TnT hotels bring in all the money
Hence control

No
They have high wages cos Democrats tried to legislate minimum wage without minimum productivity hence wage inflation

It can if it's a tiny island
Some are not up to local govt in Nigeria
See attached pic for why you should do research before talking in public

Simple math
What is Nigeria GDP
How much is oil
What's the% age
E shock me sef the first time I heard it translated like that.
Oil is like 5% of Nigeria budget so maybe 10% of gdp
Some of the Caribbean islands is only hospitality they have

If you're homeless with 2 jobs you're not responsible
You are bad with money
I see them everyday

It is the majority
Others have checked out of society choosing to be homeless
Then the children kicked out by their parents and refuse to live in the govt system
It's almost all by choice besides mental cases

Mention 5 things that taxes had facilitated in civilization that are positive
5

And what were the taxes used for
I'm sure you don't know 😂🤣😂
Nothing good lemme tell you
You've been brainwashed

Turning Abi that's the default
What do you use your Internet for despite all these strong feelings
15mb with Nokia phone is enough to figure all this out

Do you know why

Exactly what it means
Simple English
You don't know the law won't allow you to

Yep and I can prove it
Can you

Wrong
The problem is govt voted by last ppl looking for awoof

How do you formalize an economy
You just de use random words with no meaning

Per capita is $1000
How much tax
Patapata 500per person
West is almost 30,000 per person
How will you tax 30k from 1000
Or you just talking to talk at this point without thinking through the problem

No
But it correlates everywhere on the planet
where are ppl looking to enter illegally
It's not low wage countries I'll tell you that

What correlates with skin color everywhere on the planet? Bad governance.? That is wrong. Not all African countries are run badly. Most have stable power in their cities and you don't expect them to be paid 50k dollars a year when rent for a good apartment is only 150 dollars. People are paid highly in some countries just because of high living expenses caused by high rent

If rent crashes in the USA today average pay will not be more than 5k dollars per annum
Again not all African countries are run badly. The majority of African countries are not run badly. They only need to up their tax to GDP ratio to become like western Europe. Stop propagating online that bad governance correlates with skin color in Africa because it is not an intelligent submission.
Thank you
Then you don't seem to get it about homelessness. Why are drug addicts not homeless around the world?. All countries have the problem of drug addiction and it is not peculiar to any one country. The problem of homelessness is caused by too high rent. Simple

You formalize the economy by rooting out the informal sector. No working under the table. No income without taxation. Isn't it simple English? Just like it is in western Europe, North America Japan South Korea and etc. There is no magic. It is the only way.

People seek to enter while jobs seek to leave. That is what you think is best for the west?

And where are companies seeking to invest? It is not high income countries I will tell you that...

Ghostagain:
This is one problem with you guys, you confuse your beliefs with reality. All you just spewed here is backed by nothing but hot air.
Benin empire was multilingual. The language of the capital is the language of thje Oba himself and it is called Edo.

You yoruba have some obsession with my people and you dream day and night that we were yoruba.


Also you fail to understand that in the period you are talking about, there was no such thing as yoruba. Your yoruba language of today is derived from many local languages of the precolonial era and also from slave returnee language. The identity "yoruba" is a new thing, you can't take a period in which it didn't exist and start examining things of that period with the perspective of today in which the yoruba identity exists.

If you're not from oyo, then your ancestors from 200 years ago didn't identify as yoruba and would have dealt with you if you called them yoruba. You can chose your identity, not that of your ancestors.

Yoruba is a new word but calling themselves children of. Oduduwa or children of Olofin has always been the case. Yoruba is a word that came from Mali and was used originally for the Oyo. The Yoruba also call their land ile kaaro ojiire.

All Yoruba like myself have evidence of ancestry from all parts of Yoruba land. I am Ijesa in Osun and I have ancestors from Shagamu in Ogun state and etc
For a language of over seventy million speakers you expect dialects and that is normal
You make it sound as if it was the British that made the Yoruba see themselves as one people. That is wrong. They have always seen themselves as children of the same father from the same source. All the Kings are relatives
I am sorry if you are offended but Yoruba was the chief language of the Benin empire and it was the language of the capital which contained around 50k people at its prime

Ghostagain:
Why do you keep making things up ? Which letter did the British write to the Oba was in yoruba ?

What is wrong with you ?

Why are you so obsessed with making claims about Benin city ?
Don't you guys have your own cities and your own past ?

The fact you believe you know our past better than us is extremely strange.

Look I don't have time to educate you on my people's history. Just focus on your own people and leave my people alone.

Don't you find it strange how you keep harassing us Edo people by making strange claims ?

It is not harassment to say that the lingua franca of the Benin empire was Yoruba. They were not speaking Edo to Warri and Akure people and inside Benin itself Yoruba was the language
I can't find the original paper I read but this is another one saying the treaty signed was in Yoruba before it was translated to Edo.
Benin city the capital of Benin empire was speaking Yoruba in the past and not Edo. It became Edo speaking when the empire declined

http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7869.htm

Ghostagain:
This is one problem with you guys, you confuse your beliefs with reality. All you just spewed here is backed by nothing but hot air.
Benin empire was multilingual. The language of the capital is the language of the Oba himself and it is called Edo.

You yoruba have some obsession with my people and you dream day and night that we were yoruba.

Also you fail to understand that in the period you are talking about, there was no such thing as yoruba. Your yoruba language of today is derived from many local languages of the precolonial era and also from slave returnee language. The identity "yoruba" is a new thing, you can't take a period in which it didn't exist and start examining things of that period with the perspective of today in which the yoruba identity exists.

If you're not from oyo, then your ancestors from 200 years ago didn't identify as yoruba and would have dealt with you if you called them yoruba. You can chose your identity, not that of your ancestors.

Even the letter that the British wrote to the Oba was written in Yoruba. There were many languages in the empire but the language of Benin city was Yoruba unlike today. If you believe any other thing you are believing lies

Yoruba have always known themselves to be one people speaking dialects of the same language

Ghostagain:
It's funny how you guys don't realise that you go way too far in your delusions, now you think you are in a position to tell me if I'm Edo or not ?

When will your madness stop ?
You've claimed my monarchs title, my monarchs origine, my people's artefacts, my people's culture altogether, and now your "iyaloja" wants to come and claim my people's markets as well, and you go further to give yourself the "authority" to tell me I'm not from my own people 🤡

Me merely proving my point without insults while responding to a yoruba who was insulting me is what you call hate 🤡

You are hurt by facts but facts are facts and you must accept reality, stop deluding yourself.

At some point you guys will have to realise that your obsession with my people is not healthy ! You have totally forgotten your own heritage while trying to fight for my rightful heritage.

You guys will never be authentic so long you keep trying to copy my culture, no matter how many times you claim you are the original. It's clownish to just go on copying other people and not even acknowledge the people you are copying, better yet, you could just be yourselves and be proud of your own true culture and stop dragging mine with me.

Even in Yoruba land Iyaloja is specific to markets and they report to the palace. I have never heard of overall Iyaloja in history

Ghostagain:
@Ofemannnu, you're speaking to an educated man. I've studied this stuff for more than 10 years, your tricks and your way of pretending to be knowledgeable don't work on me.

As I was saying. The title for the emperor of Benin is "Oba" and that title was copied by the yoruba during the colonial era.

I'm not saying this as a way to vex or to attack you and your yoruba people or to aggrandise my people, I'm saying it because it is the truth. I hate when people copy you and then claim you are the actual copy and they are the original.

Mr man, yoruba is a new thing in the region, in the years 1700's there was no such thing as yoruba, instead we had a giant Benin empire !
Yoruba came to being with the creation of oyo which was also called yarr.iba and it is that yarri.ba which was turned into yoruba, and it's meaning has been transformed over the years to include non oyo people and fairytales like oduduwa have been created to give a common origin to the different non related "yorubas".

So mr man, a "pikkin" can't father an old man, Benin empire can therefore not originate from much younger Ife which by the way never was an empire. Ife was a small settlement until 1912 when the British started building it up.

Benin empire was a Yoruba empire and not Edoid. The capital and the largest cities were Yoruba speaking. Benin, Akure and Warri spoke the same language. Edo speaking started in Benin when the Edo speakers entered the city after the decline of the empire.. Benin today is still surrounded by Yoruba speaking communities and lands. History should be stated correctly. Benin was a Yoruba State pure and simple not different from the other Yoruba states of west Africa. The present Benin Kingdom is now Edoid

franchasng:
What Ojukwu did, no Yoruba man living or gone can dare it.


What Igbo men have done in and outside Nigeria, no Yoruba living or gone can dare it till Jesus Christ returns.


We don't need to go there you know it, the whole Nigerians know this.


In 1966 after Aguiyi Ironsi was removed as Military Head of State, the next in line was a Yoruba man to take over but fear and cowardice couldn't allow him do so even when Ojukwu stood his ground that the Yoruba military officer must be the next military head of state and not Gowon as he even refused to take orders from Gowon.


We know the story of IBB and one top Yoruba military officer.


My brother we dont need to be discussing this, you already know the truth before you even typed your response.


When world war II became tough, Hitler tried to escape but when he got the intels that all exits have been mounted to get him alive, he took his own life and that of his girlfriend, that was after attempting to flee disguised as a Roman Catholic Nun.


So that stale news of Ojukwu disguising to flee is stale because Ojukwu left Biafra land by force. Biafran top officers and his closest allies pleaded with him to leave so that Philip Effiong his Vice could surrender Biafra as hunger ravaged Biafran civilian population thereby making it impossible for Biafra to push further.


Ojukwu was airlifted from Biafra Airstrip at Oba Anambra to Ivory Coast together with his family and families of his top Generals, including Philip Effiong's family.


So quit rewriting history to proof something that never existed

What did Colonel Ojukwu do that no one can do? Do you think there would not have been war in Nigeria if after Basorun Abiola's killing the Presidency was not handed over to the Yoruba? They allowed only Yoruba to contest in order to avoid war. There was civil war because of the Igbo massacre in the North and because Colonel Ojukwu refused to allow the Eastern minorities be given a state. Nothing really spectacular. If the Presidency was not given to the Yoruba in 1999 there would have been war and people were wise to avoid it.
How are the Igbos more successful abroad when the richest Nigerians in Europe and North America are not Igbos? How are you measuring the success? Everybody is successful in their own way.

Then how do you expect Northerners to plan a coup, succeed and then hand over to a Yoruba who did not plan with them just because he is their senior? Things don't work that way. They will support only their member to take over. There is no way General Ogundipe could have benefitted from a coup he was not part of.

Who to blame in this scenario are the states governors because they are the ones supposed to collect PAYE and while collecting PAYE also make sure the employer also is paying pension. If they find people working who are not registered for PAYE and pension they shut down the place and also fine them

Nobody is forcing you to employ as a business owner but you must not pay any employee less than the minimum wage from which tax will be removed. Fixing the minimum wage is the most important function of government because it is a means of securing revenue for government when that wage is taxable. Without high revenue no nation can afford basic education for all and universal healthcare

Even if you are employing only one person you should pay the minimum wage. No business owner should be excused just because they are employing a low number of workers

Employ the number you can as an employer and sack them if they are not making profit for you but do not pay below minimum wage which should be high enough to bear tax and pension deductions.

Minimum wage is important because it is the only way of fighting poverty and when it is high it will trigger an increase in the GDP as people spend more leading to an increase in production