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marveangel:
Even as I type there is this evangelist standing in front of my compound preaching....there is this question am itching to ask him but since I am not the one he is directly preaching to I don't want to appear rude or nosey...lemme ask hopefully someone here can throw more light on this issue...Why exactly did Christ come to earth to die for our sins.....I have been taught over the years that God is the creator heaven and earth, he has the power to forgive do all things and FORGIVE sins....If these were True how come GOD could not forgive Adam(man's) sin HIMSELF..why did Jesus have to come and die like a sacrificial animal for man to get redemption....couldn't baba GOD just by himself say 'okay Man, u have been forgiven and free from sin'....afterall he is GOD and whatever HE says is true and law.........

This is not to diss any religion....me just need someone to clarify things for me.

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GOD is perfect in every way and principled, so on principle He has said that sin can be forgiven, but it must be paid for... "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." - Hebrews 9:22

Only God Himself, in the Person of The Lord Jesus Christ is qualified to make that payment... He didn't have to, but selflessly did according to His will. I just thank GOD that there is such an indescribable opportunity for regeneration and reconciliation with Him.
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"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." - 1 John 2:1-2

Jameselias:
Due to the level of sin and those who reject christ or do not accept christain religion Christain's always boost that there are more pple going to hell than those going to heaven even those who claim to have gone to heaven and came back always report the alarming number of soul's roasting in hell except satan and his demon's who they report are always seen enjoying their selves while touchering other soul's. the queston is this, since God and satan is said to be or seem's to be contesting for human souls is satan not having the upper hand.

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GOD never loses, He never fails because He is The Most High... so forget what things may look like, it won't last in perpetuity.

"For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." - Isaiah 55:10-11

One could speculate all day, which would be pointless. Just know that GOD is "righteous in all His ways, and holy in all His works" - Psalm 145:17

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"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." -Isaiah 55:8-9

"O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!" - Romans 11:33

There are many things that we cannot fully comprehend, but ultimately... "The Lord is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works." - Psalm 145:17

OP, what planet are you living on?? All you need is some cash and very little of what can be construed as charisma. Sad, but true... because corruption has created and perpetuates an overly paternalistic, very warped society full of desperation! Thus, I don't blame the women in total, I blame those who have selfishly "governed" since the beginning.

JesusisLord85:
I have a whole detailed thread, with precepts, that shows that to be incorrect. Can you bring your precepts.

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I read your thread, respectfully -

You precepts are based, in pertinent part, upon the premise that “A foreigner or stranger could be anybody”, including those of the same nation as the one calling the other a stranger.

Just like I indicated in my original reply (https://www.nairaland.com/2074575/god-god-only-jews#29488299) there is a nation of Israel (some or most of which will go to Heaven, while some won’t), and then there is the Spiritual Nation of Israel (everyone from the beginning of time, Jew or otherwise that will go to Heaven, others will not)… all only by God’s grace.

Examples of those that we know were/are justified by the blood of Christ Jesus The Lord who are not of Jewish nationality and thus gentiles/strangers? The Ethiopian Eunuch - (Acts 8:26-40)

Cornelius of Caesarea, a centurion of the band called the Italian band - (Acts 10 & Acts 11:1-18). This reference is particularly important because the apostles and brethren protested and questioned Simon Peter about preaching the word of God to the “Gentiles” (Acts 11:1)… but after he explained to them that God Himself had authorized him to do so via a vision and other confirmations …it reads “When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.” (Acts 11:18).

The Apostle Paul was commanded to go preach the gospel to the “heathen.” He first went to Arabia, and the back the Damascus (Syria). (Galatians 1: 15-17).

What was the purpose of preaching the word of God? So that these heathen/gentiles/foreigners/strangers might be saved by God’s grace as well as the Jews (apostles and others). “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” Romans 10:17

I could go on and on, but one telling verse that helps harmonize the preceding verses that I identified above re: a spiritual/twelve tribe Israel consisting of not only Jews/descendants of Abraham, but also many Heathen/Gentiles is this:

“And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation” - Revelation 5:9

JesusisLord85:
But who were those supposed gentiles:

https://www.nairaland.com/1885089/gentiles-irrefutable-proof-modern-day-christianity

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Really a gentile refers to anyone who is not of Israeli nationality or Jewish descendancy.

Yes, GOD Himself separated the nation of Israel and favored them above all other nations - "For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the Lord brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt." - Deuteronomy 7:6-8.

They (the nation of Israel) are illustrative (like other old testament signs) of how GOD has been separating, by grace, a spiritual nation of Israel in Christ Jesus The Lord since the fall of Adam... those who have, by GOD's mercies and operation alone, are truly born of The Holy Spirit and justified. (Romans 9:15-16).

So, in the end... it really all boils down to the individual or person and his or her standing in the sight of GOD.

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"Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:" - Romans 3:29.

... and the objective/purpose of a guy wearing earrings like women typically do is??

That said/asked.. the closest prohibition (which occurred after your Exodus 32:2 reference) is:

"The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God." - Deuteronomy 22:5

Just secretly follow am for night... you go soon know. Be cool though.

To each his or her own, yet... "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Acts 4:12

JESUS = YESHUA

A parable...

"Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses." - Matthew 18:21-35

"But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." - Luke 16:25-31

Also, 1 Corinthians 2:9-10

They look the same to me... besides, who gives a sh*t??

"Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind" - 1 Peter 5:2

The rich with political power taxing the rich... U no go see dat money 4 Ajegunle... absolute BS.

OP, just chill, focus on other productive things, and let it go.

So it begins...

"And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted." - Matthew 23:12

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." - Hebrews 9:22

No remission/cancellation or forgiveness of sins. Who else but GOD Himself, in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ, is qualified to make an offering/appeasement for sins (of many)?

We should thank GOD for such a Selfless sacrifice, because He didn't have to, but He lovingly did. "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." - John 15:13

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"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;" - Acts 17:24-26

OP / oh man... throughout the course of history Bible prophesies have been, and are being repeatedly fulfilled. I hope that you are not still unbelieving when you leave this earth (as do we all), or when what you deny happens (it will be like movie, only in real life)... indeed,
"...let God be true, but every man a liar..." (Romans 3:4)
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"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." - 1 Thessalonians 4:17

"And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." - Acts 1:10-12

"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen." - Revelation 1:7

OP, our "righteousnesses are as filthy rags" - (Isaiah 64:6) & we, before salvation by God's grace alone, are dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1)... so, we don't "allow" God to change us, He sovereignly and mercifully does so according to His perfect will.

"What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy." - Romans 9:14-16

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"He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." - Deuteronomy 32:4

Na Which kind i pass my neighbor... the guy is being practical.

In another context, yet always true - "What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid." - Romans 9:14

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"He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." - Deuteronomy 32:4

Ukutsgp:
1 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.” 3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. -John3:1-6.


what does it mean to be born of water and the spirit from verse 5 above?

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Simply put my friend...

Water = the word of GOD, the Holy Bible. We are saved/spiritually & miraculously reborn when we come under the hearing of the word of GOD, by the operation of GOD because "the word of God is living..." (Hebrew 4:12). GOD washes us/His church in Christ with the word -> "That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word" - Ephesians 5:26... "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17

Born of the Spirit = Occurs simultaneously with the hearing of the word of GOD, at the moment GOD saves someone... "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise," Ephesians 1:13.... "To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father." - Galatians 4:5-6

Water baptism is merely a sign. Only GOD Himself can cause a person to be truly born of the water of the word and the Holy Spirit. (John 1:12-13)

I believe that the only thing that should motivate someone to spend such an amount of time in prayer before GOD is a true love of GOD and a true desire to commune with/spend time with GOD... not because one is trying to meet some requirement or expectation of others.

Whenever the Holy Spirit moves you to pray, then pray... in your room, silently in your heart, etc.

"Pray without ceasing." - 1 Thessalonians 5:17
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"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him." - Matthew 6:6-8

OLAADEGBU:
"How can I learn to not take offense at little things?" -

http://www.gotquestions.org/take-offence.html

If, by God's grace alone, we remember His indescribably abundant mercies toward us and the sacrifices that He (The Lord Jesus Christ Himself) made and the insults He endured from His own creatures, particularly from His birth to His crucifixion ... we should be humbled by such facts and thoughts because who are we?

Often, we inherently take offense because of an element of pride within. Try to ignore, avoid if necessary and forgive quickly.

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"Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God." - James 1:19-20

Funjosh:
Is speaking in tongue a criteria to get to heaven

Speaking in tongues is NOT a criteria for getting into Heaven.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16

Believing is a criteria, by the operation of God Himself, by His grace through Faith.
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"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." -Ephesians 2:8-9

There should be NO divorce for any reason... in Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9, the original Greek word "parektovß" was translated "saving" / "except" and should have been interpreted without exception to. The entire word of God is harmonious from cover to cover, (even though there may appear to be contradictions)...so in comparing Matt 5:32 & Matt 19:9 with the entire Bible, there should be nothing that ends a marriage..."Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder" - Matthew 19:6... except the death of a spouse.

"For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. " - Romans 7:2-3


Even though GOD temporarily permitted men to divorce their wives for substantive/righteous reasons of His own - "He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so." - Matthew 19:8

GOD hates divorce - "For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously." - Malachi 2:16

We ought to forgive one another, by His grace, no matter the nature of the sin and work through it, praying in the process because we "walk by Faith..."

Tell him/her to look around... there is evidence of God's existence and creation everywhere.


"Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." - Romans 1:19-21

"We" are not without, individually and collectively, our own moral deficiencies.


"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." - Matthew 7:3-5